NTFS 64GB w/ Paragon - Filesystem issues/ Mass Storage - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I formatted my 64gb sd card to ntfs and using paragon android can use the ntfs sd card. My issue is why doesn't it auto-mount when turning off mass storage? I have to mount it manually to "automatic" mode to /mnt/sdcard. So it's a pain getting mass storage to show the 64gb drive and when it does show up within 5 minutes of copying files the drive disappears from windows and fails to work. I have to set the phone to charge only, then mount paragon. Then go mass storage and it will then show up again only to fail shortly during writing.
On top of all that when I browse to view the files, they don't exist in the sdcard like the files and folders I clearly copied aren't showing up. However some folders and files show up. I don't get why mx video player doesn't see any video files in /mnt/sdcard/media/movies when I clearly copied 2 files into it and they don't show up at all...
It's a Sandisk class 10 uhs 1 64gb stick

format it as fat32
problem solved.
you should need a reason to have it as ntfs what files are you trying to put on that are over 4gb because that would be the only reason why you would.

squee666 said:
format it as fat32
problem solved.
you should need a reason to have it as ntfs what files are you trying to put on that are over 4gb because that would be the only reason why you would.
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Yeah my Galaxy note 2 can handle all hd formats like .mkv so I wanna put my 8gb .mkv's on there to watch in flawless uncompressed quality.
What's up with Paragon? Or what u know... Like it stops working after 5 minutes of transferring files

No idea but android doesn't play nicely with ntfs. Use exfat.
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squee666 said:
No idea but android doesn't play nicely with ntfs. Use exfat.
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Does exfat work with windows? I need to be able use usb mass storage but I guess i could just use wifi transfer it's slow but better than nothing...
exfat support 4GB+ file limit right?
What's up with paragon? ppl have said it works good but it's clear to me that's it's extremely problematic.

Exfat came with windows 7 and supports 4gb plus.
I haven't tried paragon, it also could be a kernel issue.
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Not sure Android supports exFAT. FAT32 is your best and safest bet, even though it has limitations.

new kernel didn't fix the issue so i guess i have to use fat32... i dont see why paragon is messing up
what about usb otg?

*UPDATE*
I fixed the problem by plugging the usb cable directly into the usb port rather than through the 6' usb extension.
So NTFS is working flawlessly and I already copied over a 4.5GB .mp4 in 1080p and it works perfectly

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SD card 4GB file size limit - HD2 working also with NTFS?

today i got my Transcend 32GB SD card but i fail to copy videos bigger than 4Gb to it.
anyone managed to circumvent the FAT32 file size limit or knows whether or not the HD2 can cope with an NTFS formatted card?
thanks!
uli68 said:
today i got my Transcend 32GB SD card but i fail to copy videos bigger than 4Gb to it.
anyone managed to circumvent the FAT32 file size limit or knows whether or not the HD2 can cope with an NTFS formatted card?
thanks!
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It's not possible to put files of over 4GB on FAT32 - end of. There's no way round it and no, you can't use NTFS formatted cards.
The only thing I can suggest is a video splitter. If they're MKV files then use mkv2vob which converts them to MPEG files. There's an option specifically for use with FAT32 drives that splits the video into 4GB chunks. If they're not MKV then (what the hell are they at over 4GB????) google to find a suitable alternative app. There's plenty out there.
Good luck
thanks for the quick reply mate!
i just read that it's maybe possible to use an alternative Linux file systems on the SD card, but there's no confirmation so far if and how this works.
so, anyone got info on whether or not FAT32 is the only format the HD2 is compatible with?
No worries mate. I had all this when I used to have a "media drive" that I shared between my PC and PS3, so I know it can be a pain.
Hope you get something sorted.

SanDisk 64GB Mobile Ultra MicroSDXC Class 6 Memory Card Works

Just wanted to report that the SanDisk 64GB Mobile Ultra MicroSDXC Class 6 Memory Card works fine in the Prime's micro SD slot.
I bought it from Amazon, which included a USB SD card reader for $149.99.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005V7WIA2/ref=oh_o03_s00_i00_details
The first hurdle I ran into is the fact that the card comes pre-formatted with the exFAT file system.
The Asus Transformer Prime does NOT support the exFAT file system.
At first the 16GB MKV file I copied to the card via the included card reader in Windows seemed to list and play the file in DicePlayer fine but seeking past 5 minutes would crash the player. When I copied more files to the card and explored the card via ES file explorer the file explorer listed all the directories as empty, even though when I put the card back into the card reader and read the data through Windows everything appeared and read OK.
However The Prime will read and write fine to an NTFS formatted card. NTFS format is preferable to FAT32 since you can't copy files to a FAT32 partition larger than 4GB. As I have several movie files much bigger than 4GB FAT32 would be unsuitable for my (and most people buying a card of this size) needs.
To format your card as NTFS in Windows:
1.) Put the card into the included full size SD card adapter
2.) Insert the card in a USB reader (one was included with my purchase from Amazon)
3.) Connect the USB reader into the computer and wait for windows to assign it a drive letter.
4.) Open up a command prompt (start menu->"Command Prompt")
5.) Type the following command (replace the x with the drive letter assigned to your SDXC card).
Code:
format /FS:NTFS x:
After I formatted the card as NTFS and copied my data to it everything read and played fine.
Asus licensed drivers from Tuxera, (link), but wasn't clear about exFat being included or not.
The manual does specifically call out NTFS ...
Wonder if exFat might be supported in ICS?
FWIW, exFat is potentially a bit more efficient for flash memory, but at least NTFS is supported.
Cheers, wasn't relishing converting my Fat32-formatted 64GB card to something else to test this out (BTW, Fat32 will take files up to 4GB, not two, but still restricting for HD video).
NZtechfreak said:
Cheers, wasn't relishing converting my Fat32-formatted 64GB card to something else to test this out (BTW, Fat32 will take files up to 4GB, not two, but still restricting for HD video).
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Thanks, was noting the FAT32 file limitation from memory, corrected the OP.
Looks like the Amazon resellers raised their price to $199.99. Best price I can find now is here ($161.36 with tax/shipping) :
http://www.provantage.com/sandisk-sdsdqy-064g-a11a~4SNDK2YU.htm
Isn't there a convert tool to convert FAT to NTFS? Don't know if it works for FAT32 or not, but ...
Ah yes, here it is:
Code:
C:\Users\Me>convert /?
Converts a FAT volume to NTFS.
CONVERT volume /FS:NTFS [/V] [/CvtArea:filename] [/NoSecurity] [/X]
volume Specifies the drive letter (followed by a colon), mount point, or volume name.
/FS:NTFS Specifies that the volume will be converted to NTFS.
/V Specifies that Convert will be run in verbose mode.
/CvtArea:filename Specifies a contiguous file in the root directory that will be the place holder for NTFS system files.
/NoSecurity Specifies that the security settings on the converted files and directories allow access by all users.
/X Forces the volume to dismount first if necessary. All open handles to the volume will not be valid.
C:\Users\Me>
I could be wrong but I think convert.exe only works on FAT16 or FAT32, I don't think it works on exFAT. Regardless you're probably better off with a clean format to make sure everything is nice and clean with no unreadable (bad) portions.
I wonder how it would perform (if at all) if you formatted the card as ext4 instead of ntfs.
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Does the card stick out of the side at all? I hear some cards are longer than others and create an annoying bump on the side of the tablet.
quantumalpha said:
Does the card stick out of the side at all? I hear some cards are longer than others and create an annoying bump on the side of the tablet.
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It's raised out about the exact same amount the volume rocker extrudes from the Prime.
JanetPanic said:
I wonder how it would perform (if at all) if you formatted the card as ext4 instead of ntfs.
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Didn't test with ext4, ext4 is a much harder partition format to work with in Windows.
NZtechfreak said:
Cheers, wasn't relishing converting my Fat32-formatted 64GB card to something else to test this out (BTW, Fat32 will take files up to 4GB, not two, but still restricting for HD video).
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You convert fat32 to ntfs with the windows command line " convert" . Did the same with my 32gb sd card
Anyone tried a SDXC in the SD slot of the dock?
TalynOne said:
The Asus Transformer Prime does NOT support the exFAT file system.
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FWIW I got a wild hair and formatted my new micro sd card with exFAT and I am able to read and write using my Prime with ICS
Edit: I also did some tests and it seems write speeds are increased a bit with exFAT over NTFS
I'd love to see some crystaldiskmark numbers from your card!
P.S. also really happy to hear that exFat is working via ICS ... it should be better than ntfs for those that want >4gb files.
can you test out how fast it works? Writing and Reading speed both.
Does anybody here have ubuntu? It supports formatting in all the above file systems, as well as the norm browsing/filetransfer/ and all the such.
I've bought the card a week ago and it worked fine on my Prime without ICS (only got ICS last night; German SKU). Write rates using the supplied SD card adapter on my PC were around 7.5 MB/s.
No need to convert unless you want to use it with a Linux box.
Yatyas said:
FWIW I got a wild hair and formatted my new micro sd card with exFAT and I am able to read and write using my Prime with ICS
Edit: I also did some tests and it seems write speeds are increased a bit with exFAT over NTFS
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Mine also worked with exFat until I put a bunch of data on it. Try copying a 8GB+ mkv to it and see if you can seek/play the entire file. My experience in Honeycomb was that it failed to read the entire file and if I copied more data to the exFAT formatted card then my files started disappearing from any file explorer run on the Prime (though still visible in Windows when connected to a dedicated USB card reader). This was my experience in Honeycomb, haven't re-tested with ICS since everything works great when formatted as NTFS.
TalynOne said:
Just wanted to report that the SanDisk 64GB Mobile Ultra MicroSDXC Class 6 Memory Card works fine in the Prime's micro SD slot.
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After I formatted the card as NTFS and copied my data to it everything read and played fine.
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OH my god are you saying you can read and write all 64 gigs on the card? No issues at all? Is there any disadvantage over using a 32 gig card?

Bigger files than 4gb limit !

Hello all , and i have a verry strange thing to report , i have a galaxy s2 with a 32 gb memory card , and when i bought the card and the phone , i could transfer movies that where like 14 GB :| , and after i formated the memmory card then it tells me that there is a file limit for fat32 , again when i bought the card i could easy put files above 4 gb on the card , i used to copy files on the sgs2 when it was in Mtp conection , so please some one can tell me what happened , why i cannot copy bigger files than 4 gb now ? because i formated the card :| ? when the card was brand new everything was fine , please some expert help i want awnsers ...
That is because the maximum file size for FAT32 is 4GB. Just format it to NTFS (Or whichever other filesystem android can use) and you'll be fine again.
You answered your own question. 4GB is the limit of Fat32.. format the card NTFS or ext2 or any number of other file systems that support larger file sizes
The SGS2 supports filesizes higher than 4gb with external SDcard?
Didn't know this always threw an error for me for filesizes over 4gb.
ok stop listen every one , i know if u formate it to ntfs it will suport bigger files than 4gb or exfat , believe me ive tried and if i formate it to ntfs or exfat , the phone will report the memory card as " Corupted memory card " formate now ?
Is there any other file system that android can use something else than FAT32 ???
Maybe ext file system will be the answer to your question.
Back in 2011 before my sgs2, i had HTC Desire which you could put ext filesystem to get more internal with custom roms, because of the little space that the Desire is born with.
i do remember that ext file system is the one that linux uses.
After all, android is using the linux kernel.
ext, ext2, ext3, ext4
You can use minitool partition wizard, to create/convert file system off your sd card.
Just re-format it in ntfs and be happy
I may be wrong, but I don't believe anything other than a NT based Windows OS can read NTFS formatted drives.
Honestly, the best answer I've found for this issue is to split movies into multiple files. It only takes minutes with mkv2vob (assuming they're mkv files), and it converts them into mpegs (despite the name).
It's totally free and a great little app to have anyway.
http://www.mkv2vob.com/showthread.php?tid=1
There is a NTFS kernel module available for Android -- a forum search will turn up multiple threads on the topic. I believe there's also been some work done on ext4 and/or exFAT support; both those filesystems allow files > 4GB.
Transferring a 14gb movie onto the phone is a retarded thing to do, the phone has 800x480 screen. Re-encode the movie..problem solved.
Joey2o11 said:
Transferring a 14gb movie onto the phone is a retarded thing to do, the phone has 800x480 screen. Re-encode the movie..problem solved.
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I agree... If you use vuze or something, plug your phone in - it will detect it as a device, drag file into your phone down the left side and it will transcode it for you
Plenty of other converters but I don't know how proficient you are
Joey2o11 said:
Transferring a 14gb movie onto the phone is a retarded thing to do, the phone has 800x480 screen. Re-encode the movie..problem solved.
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Not retarded if he wants to output it on the TV though
So does NTFS & 4gb+ file sizes work on external sdcards with the SGS2?
It won't work unless you root and look for a patch or something to read NTFS. Maybe ext will work (but, if you use Windows, you won't be able to read/write it).

[Q] filesystem

Hi guys!
Is there some way to make our razr read/write in another filesystem than FAT32?!
My propose is watch some 1080p movies via HDMI on my TV..
Ty!
I take it they are very large video files? Fat32 has a file size limit of 4GB I believe. The only way is to use a tool to split your video files into chunks smaller than this.
As an afterthought, have you tried formatting your microsd card in windows as NTFS and copying your film across and playing on the razr (assuming you have a card big enough)? As Android is essentially Linux it should be able to read NTFS though I don't have any files big enough to test myself.
NTFS doesn't have that limit.
Good luck!
EDIT: been looking around and if you have trouble, try Drive Mount on the Android Market. You will need to be rooted & busyboxed up if you are not already. This will allow you to read NTFS formatted SD Cards
Yeah, sometimes its about 5gb files... another 12gb files..
I've got android 2.3.5, stock rom, rooted.. and NTFS, EXT2, EXT3, EXT4 are not recognize ):
The drive mount on market, is incompatible with Razr..
Thank You for response..!

[Q] 64GB ExFat on Stock ICS + Root Springboard

Hey guys,
I got a new 64GB MicroSD Card. There are lots of issues with this card formatted in FAT32. (Files dissappearing, re-transfer of files causes disk usage to go up, but files still missing. Sometimes there are in put output issues.)
I've done a badblocks test on the SD Card and it show no issues. I tried formatting this card in ExFAT and everything looks like it works good. The only problem is, my Springboard Detects no SD Card if its in this format.
My question is, how do I get my Springboard to read ExFAT formatted SD Cards.
Keep in mind, that when an SD Card is inserted into the device, it gets auto-mounted to /media/sdcard2
/media/sdcard is used by the internal memory.
I checked the play store and it suggested Paragon and USB OTG
I've downloaded Paragon and it does seem to detect it.
I've also downloaded USB OTG, and it also doesn't detect it.
Help would be appreciated.
Cheers,
Zubin
AW: [Q] 64GB ExFat on Stock ICS + Root Springboard
Maybe this helps you or anybody:
Early this month Win7 got an update for Ralink based Wifi sticks, causing random errors during file transfers to both my androids with MyPhoneExplorer. Driver rollback helped.
???
lecorbusier said:
Maybe this helps you or anybody:
Early this month Win7 got an update for Ralink based Wifi sticks, causing random errors during file transfers to both my androids with MyPhon
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Hmmm...not sure what this has to do with 64GB MicroSD Cards and the ExFAT filesystem on Android....but thanks?
zparihar said:
Hmmm...not sure what this has to do with 64GB MicroSD Cards and the ExFAT filesystem on Android....but thanks?
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Depends on HOW u transfer files to and from the pad(the card). I mostly use Wifi, and got OBEX errors and file skipping during bulk transfers.

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