I have around 140 Google Play Apps on my N7100.
How many Google Apps do other members of this forum have on their N7100 ?
How many are more than enough ?
What are the disadvantages of installing too many Google Apps ?
Do less number of Google Apps improve the performance of N7100 ?
I have 90 apps
Advantage of having more is that you get to have more. I guess the disadvantage is that they take up space in your internal memory?
Many apps in and of themselves shouldn't decrease performance or make your system slow, unless many of them run in the background and hog up your system resources.
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MohJee said:
Advantage of having more is that you get to have more. I guess the disadvantage is that they take up space in your internal memory?
Many apps in and of themselves shouldn't decrease performance or make your system slow, unless many of them run in the background and hog up your system resources.
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OK, How many Google apps do you have on your N7100 ?
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ATM I have only 30. Usually I use 75+ apps but that's more than enough. But more apps mean more chance of malware and crap apps. I always stick with Top Dev/Editiors choice apps.
I have about 200 at the moment and haven't noticed any kind of decrease in performance
I've got about 107, which is pretty low for me, but I have several devices running different apps and what i have on my phone is specific and not duplicated by other apps (I.e. I have Chrome and not Chrome + Dolphin + Opera + boat browser + Firefox. ...).
I monitor apps that run as services all the time and either replace them out manage them strictly.
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Hello,
Searched in this forum but couldn't find answer, so thanks for your expert feedback:
I'm using SGS2 since 2 weeks now and I'm happy with it. Except I can't stand one full day with a fully charged battery with a "normal" usage. But batterie matter is not my question
I installed some application, like news, games, etc, as well as "advanced task killer". When I open "Avanced Task Killer", I see so many apps that I didn not even opened: Gallery, Search, Maps, MI, Social Hub, and some games...
Do you know why such applications are running (or launched) itself? Checking RAM, still have enough free ram, but I really don't know why all those apps are lauched.
Doesn't matter, they are not what is causing your drain. If it's really bad it's either the wifi sharing issue or the router issue. Could you post a screen shot of your battery usage. Also atk does more harm than good for the average user.
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Doesn't matter, they are not what is causing your drain. If it's really bad it's either the wifi sharing issue or the router issue. Could you post a screen shot of your battery usage. Also atk does more harm than good for the average user.
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Well, most of battery usage is due to display+Android OS+Android system (a total of 78%). But battery drain was not my question
Just wandering to know why I have so many apps running (or only launched) in background without I launch them (social hub, maps, gallery, game hub, and some games)
Because the galaxy s II has a massif RAM, once they are running there is no reason to kill them. If you check active services most of them should be cached and not actually running. Atleast the games, stuff like social hub will run always.
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These apps are running because that is how the android OS works. It opens things so they load faster next time. They ate supposed to be suspended so not using any resources in the background unless its a badly coded app.
Nothing you can do about it really.
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I am using Android 2.3.6 stock rom. My phone becomes very slow every 2-3 mins. When i open a task killer it shows 44mb-51mb ram. I have to clear all the apps and still it would show me 65mb-70nb ram. Phone gets ridiculously slow. Please help me with the solution.
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I am using Android 2.3.6 stock rom. My phone becomes very slow every 2-3 mins. When i open a task killer it shows 44mb-51mb ram. I have to clear all the apps and still it would show me 65mb-70nb ram. Phone gets ridiculously slow. Please help me with the solution.
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-go back to froyo
-or buy a new phone
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Any better Solution?
Delete useless apps that use RAM unnecessarily...
Prawesome said:
Delete useless apps that use RAM unnecessarily...
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Yea, like Samsung Apps, such a memory hog -.-
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use another task killer, or stop some services from settings->applications->running apps->from there, stop some apps you think uses your phone's memory too much.
other thing, remove any apps that uses data transfer or any background services.
First stop DATA then u need to stop some APPS like Samsung APPs. The way ur telling invokes that ur in STOCk
try to install custom ROM.
or delete some useless app.
Delete bloatware apps.
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i have found a thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18561098
reflash n try a custom rom
Are you using the stock task manager, or some app from the market (play)? If you're using an app, then begin by deleting that app. They do nothing good for your phone, quite the opposite in fact. As long as there is free ram left, then the ram is not to blame. And android should free the ram on it's own, so basically you shouldn't even need to free the ram by yourself.
If that is not the reason, then it is some app you have installed, which keeps running on the background and needlessly uses resources. The ace runs fine, even on stock rom. And that means that, either you or some app, is doing something wrong...
I recently installed a Rom and the ram is consistently at 700mb can anyone advise me on how to lower this say yo 500 - 600mb.
Also is there a app or task manager that will allow me to decide what apps I want to stay open and what ones close after a pre defined time. Dont know if im thinking ahead with this app
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V6 supercharge and greenify, Google these
Actually it doesn't really matter about RAM...
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Thanks
I gave greenify a go looks pretty promising, once I actually get the hang of it
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Are you managing app auto starts? If not get LBE Security Master and set which apps you want to start up after booting. That will save you some RAM.
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Are you managing app auto starts? If not get LBE Security Master and set which apps you want to start up after booting. That will save you some RAM.
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actually i have been using LEB for a year or so, and only use it as bandwidth monitor ... that function about disable autostart seems is not very working well because my RAM always got over 700+ MB.
but anyway , consider the Android's RAM management which is quite different to Windows , so i am fine with that ...
just my music player get killed frequently which is very annoying !!!
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I recently installed a Rom and the ram is consistently at 700mb can anyone advise me on how to lower this say yo 500 - 600mb.
Also is there a app or task manager that will allow me to decide what apps I want to stay open and what ones close after a pre defined time. Dont know if im thinking ahead with this app
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Freeze some things with titanium backup. Greenify apps you don't need running in the background. I normally always have around 180mb of ram free with widgets on the homescreen, messaging and exdialer in memory, whatsapp, headset manager, google services, quickpic, Facebook notifications etc. Personally not a fan of Swap/ZRam/Supercharger. My best experience has easily been running stock or WanamLite with no tweaks/build.prop edits other than Jkay Deluxe. Also, Perseus kernel has some ram modifications in the kernel so you get an extra 20mb or so of ram
Still do not understand why people want more free RAM; free RAM is doing nothing, while RAM that is being used is caching apps in memory so it can be loaded faster, making a more responsive system. Please research. With that being said, too much RAM usage is not good; about 5% (45mbs on our GS3) should always be left idle.
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actually i have been using LEB for a year or so, and only use it as bandwidth monitor ... that function about disable autostart seems is not very working well because my RAM always got over 700+ MB.
but anyway , consider the Android's RAM management which is quite different to Windows , so i am fine with that ...
just my music player get killed frequently which is very annoying !!!
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If you want more ram then you must setup which apps can launch in the background after startup. These are the apps that eat ram because they begin running by themselves and continue running even if you never use them. Of the 80+ plus apps that I have only 4 of them are allowed to startup on boot.
in This Guide i will show you have i've speeded up my Xperia U After ICS 4.0.4 Update
You'll won't Get the same speed you get with Gingerbread, But it's good to speed it up
1. Do NOT Use Live Wallpapers, it Uses RAM and CPU
2.Go to Settings>Developer Options and Check Force GPU Rendering ( your Phone might get Unstable with this), Then Scroll Down and Set "Background Process Limit" to "2" ( Don't Worry you'll still receive whatsapp, Viber, etc. Messages) (YOU'LL HAVE TO DO THIS EVERY BOOT)
3.Go back to Home and Go to Settings>Apps>"All" And Disable these:
Talk (Updated to Hangout)
Google+
Friend's Music
FBiX Music Likes
FBiX Calendar Sync
Facebook extension
Facebook | There's two apps with same name, disable both!
Email
Chrome
( Not all Apps Might be Slowing Down Things but this is what best suited for me)(The Most Important apps are: Chrome, Facebook,Google+ and Hangouts)(You Might not See Disable Option, Uninstall Updates First)
4.Install Only Necessary Apps ( Whatsapp, Viber, Skype, etc.) and Avoid installing apps that run in background or use alot of RAM & Use Stock apps, for Example if you Prefer VLC Player to Play Music, Delete it and Use the Stock Player
5.Disable all apps found in Performance assistant
6.Don't use alot of Widgets, Close apps when you don't need them, Restart your Phone from Time to Time
IMPORTANT THING: IF YOU UPGRADED TO ICS AND DIDN'T DO FACTORY RESET IT'S EXTREMELY SLOW, DO FACTORY RESET, HUGE DIFFERENCE!!
For me i have 33 Apps installed and Most Time the RAM is 100MB Free and Worst Won't be less than 60-70 MB Free
User specific guide. Not suited me at all. Though nice efforts
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User specific guide. Not suited me at all. Though nice efforts
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Appearance vs. Performance
This Guide is for guys looking for Performance aside from Appearance, And FB apps and Google+ and Talk might Be Important to Some, and Others not!
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Appearance vs. Performance
This Guide is for guys looking for Performance aside from Appearance, And FB apps and Google+ and Talk might Be Important to Some, and Others not!
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That what I said!
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Hi eveyone,
Title tells you everything. Why i made this conclusion? Because android nougat system uses all your RAM in vain.(I would like to mention that Linux os is famous for its low ram usage and fast ui so, google, why android is using so much RAM?) . Any installed app data which are stored on your Ram on a boot, so why apps are slowly opening,Why they are reloading everytime when switching back to that app? All apps which are running in multitasking mode(recents apps) when switching between apps , app is reloading but not switching to the last opened moment. Also there are some other bad behaviour like when youre updating your apps through google play store. If you switch to another app , google play app stops doing update process. These problems gets pixel and nexus devices and all devices which uses ROMs based on aosp or lineage.
I'm on a purenexus(aosp) rom and My device (kenzo)uses 1.8/1.8 GB of ram. It's a real problem. Comparing samsung galaxy s8 vs pixel device you can see what i'm talking about. (Youtube link is below) Why OEMs gets better results with their own UI and kernel customizations? Atleast, Can we get better Ram management on android o with stock kernel? I'm not talking about apple's iOS which is better in multitasking in any way..
https://youtu.be/UK8K-lhDFVw
I would like to get your opinion and suggestions how to improve RAM management on nougat. Atleast prove me that you don't have these my mentioned problems (please tell me your using ROM name, kernel and other mods you use).
Tried a lot ROMS but after some days of usage they end with poor ui performance with bad ram management behaviour..
Some saintly person with infinite knowledge is coming here to tell you that "free ram is wasted ram".
He won't care if your phone lags, apps reload and ui is unresponsive. He'll just repeat his favorite phrase.
"Free ram is wasted ram."
Let's see the first Saint's comment.
Oh and btw..
I'm facing the exact same problem. And I'm very pissed off with these saintly people repeating their favorite phrase. No solution found so far. Use greenify on as many apps as you can. It'll cause the problem to be a little more bearable.
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Use custom kernel.
Also lately play services started hogging ram so I disabled some of the services :
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ibsk0e1yens5suc/AACU4nhZGu0UuBcwHV1VT2pLa?dl=0
Third if you have social media apps running they are the culprit, my gfs s7e lagged with Facebook, Instagram, viber, whatsapp etc.
Greenify solved the issue.
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Some saintly person with infinite knowledge is coming here to tell you that "free ram is wasted ram".
He won't care if your phone lags, apps reload and ui is unresponsive. He'll just repeat his favorite phrase.
"Free ram is wasted ram."
Let's see the first Saint's comment.
Oh and btw..
I'm facing the exact same problem. And I'm very pissed off with these saintly people repeating their favorite phrase. No solution found so far. Use greenify on as many apps as you can. It'll cause the problem to be a little more bearable.
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LOL so true, I was just thinking the same ? They'll say free ram is wasted but that's not true for a multitasker, like me, because I like to use 4 apps and be able to switch amongst them without reloading(I have 2GB variant)
Anyway, checkout my screenshot, I use greenify + 512mb zram(ElementalX kernel default settings)
P.s I'm on XenonHD
Never had such issue on any nougat rom. I use Resurrection remix 5.8.2 and Agni Kernel. Use Zram in kernel Auditor to boost performance little bit. I always have 700 to 800 free ram on 2g variant.
I set my LMK to 9-32-64-100-156-214 and I swear i can switch around with browser, facebook, message and gallery without reload anything . I'm on 2gb Kenzo with franco kernel
guys, use privacy guard / appops , and disable background working of unnecessary apps like
Solution: Root; tweak
A little bit of my story: Galaxy Tab S. What laptop (tablet - in the old days, laptops were great with that much ram, weren't they?) with 3 gb ram won't let you multitask?! When it was Kitkat, it was, well, alright. I upgraded to Marshmallow, and I was not able to multitask. Marshmallow on Galaxy J5 Prime leaves 800 MB without cache and over 1.2 GB without cache, out of 3 GB. Similar with Marshmallow/Tab S (+ overheating processor!). I mean what the ****? Is that planned obsolescence?
And now I am here, typing from Tab S, with: 5 tabs open in Chrome, 2 tabs in Xodo, Settings, Play Store, ES File Explorer, Task Bar (Braden Farmer) [at the least] - having changed to Lineage OS 14.1 (no good. by default), rooted and learnt about Low Memory Killer (in Deathly Adiutor); tweaked it and I have less than 300 MB free ram with cache and less than 875 MB free without cache. Yay! (Btw, the overheating problem is solved too by underclocking - to save battery and avoid overheating!) [I have spent at least two days testing out different OS and possibility-of-root and features.] So, this paragraph is my 2 cents.
Would like to hear from you if your problem is solved.
[PS: J5 Prime is still under warranty, and is used for basic functionalities - no problem there as of yet.]
I'm currently running RR nougat with randon kernel
The ram management is great i can swith fb ,youtube, chorme, mess without loading, but in long term the phone start slow, hang and battery drop super fast ( 5H SOT)
So i have to force 3 app running background to keep battery longer and stay away from lag.
Any ideas to keep great ram and free - lag ?!?
Tks in advance
Any idea
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Use custom kernel.
Also lately play services started hogging ram so I disabled some of the services :
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ibsk0e1yens5suc/AACU4nhZGu0UuBcwHV1VT2pLa?dl=0
Third if you have social media apps running they are the culprit, my gfs s7e lagged with Facebook, Instagram, viber, whatsapp etc.
Greenify solved the issue.
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How do you disable the services?
mehrshad.shafaghi said:
How do you disable the services?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.disableservice