Okay so I know this is not for the dinc4glte but for the older brother dinc2 phone. We are in need of a kernel source release and we started a petition to get it; we are currently at 129 signatures and need a lot more (thinking 1,000) and we come to you guys to at least with this. This doesn't even take 5 min to help another forum in need. So please be so kind I'm not even asking much.
https://www.change.org/petitions/hi...cs-update-for-the-incredible-2-or-source-code
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Okay so I know this is not for the dinc4glte but for the older brother dinc2 phone. We are in need of a kernel source release and we started a petition to get it; we are currently at 129 signatures and need a lot more (thinking 1,000) and we come to you guys to at least with this. This doesn't even take 5 min to help another forum in need. So please be so kind I'm not even asking much.
https://www.change.org/petitions/hi...cs-update-for-the-incredible-2-or-source-code
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signed
Signed.
Fix the "there" issue, so someone will take it seriously, and I'll sign.
Help with there
Jafmf95 said:
Fix the "there" issue, so someone will take it seriously, and I'll sign.
Help with there
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Haha I wish I could but someone else created it I just wanna spread it around as much as I can and thank you all you guys are so kind aha
On this issue, didn't I see somewhere where HTC was releasing plane-jane ROMs for some of their devices? I wonder if petitioning for one of those would get a response? Just thinking that HTC probably finished the ICS ROM for the Dinc2 months ago and gave it to VZW, where it is collecting dust. I know source code is most desirable, but a finished ROM would help, too. Yeah?
I'll try to find where I ran across that and post a link.....
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Haha I wish I could but someone else created it I just wanna spread it around as much as I can and thank you all you guys are so kind aha
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I noticed. Signed anyway
Remind me not to send my kids to school in Murfreesboro, TN,,,,
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On this issue, didn't I see somewhere where HTC was releasing plane-jane ROMs for some of their devices? I wonder if petitioning for one of those would get a response? Just thinking that HTC probably finished the ICS ROM for the Dinc2 months ago and gave it to VZW, where it is collecting dust. I know source code is most desirable, but a finished ROM would help, too. Yeah?
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Actually we did get a leak but was no actual to help as we want are in dire need for kernel source for AOSP the sense on ics and jb work but also to a certain degree
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Actually we did get a leak but was no actual to help as we want are in dire need for kernel source for AOSP the sense on ics and jb work but also to a certain degree
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No, not a leak. I flashed plenty of ROMs based on leaks to my Dinc2.
So it was in this article here, which is about HTC setting a 512MB RAM bar for their devices to receive JB.
I thought this quote was interesting: “Chou and Co. also noted that they plan to post "generic development ROMs" of Jelly Bean for the One X and One S to its developer website as soon as they're fully baked. “
So if they are posting "generic development ROMs" why can’t they do that for devices like the Dinc2? Anyway, just something to think about asking for since they are obviously putting them together.
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So if they are posting "generic development ROMs" why can’t they do that for devices like the Dinc2?
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Because they aren't fully baked yet.
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My God the amount of changes that Google made to Android 4.0.
If you guys have not had the chance to see what has been going on, check it out http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/18/android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-now-official/ .
The total rehaul has a lot of to be excited about including the fact that the sdk is out and as I understand it, this will be released with it's source code for some sweet dev love.
GLEE!
We don't even have a working gingerbread , much less honeycomb and you are looking for ICS.
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We don't even have a working gingerbread , much less honeycomb and you are looking for ICS.
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Actually, there are plenty of working GB and HC roms. What made you think otherwise?
My understanding is that if the developers had the source code necessary for hardware acceleration, we would eventually have a fully working ICS rom. I think Viewsonic doesn't care enough to have someone work with nvidia to get the source code.
Once google releases ICS source code, we should have a usable ICS rom, at least
Mods please move this to proper section...thought the hammer was in effect?
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My God the amount of changes that Google made to Android 4.0.
If you guys have not had the chance to see what has been going on, check it out http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/18/android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-now-official/ .
The total rehaul has a lot of to be excited about including the fact that the sdk is out and as I understand it, this will be released with it's source code for some sweet dev love.
GLEE!
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Really? you think this is the proper place to post this? Can we place read the rules!
Cant wait to flash this!, ill post back in a few with how it runs.
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Actually, there are plenty of working GB and HC roms. What made you think otherwise?
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Camera and hardware acceleration are still not there yet.
Yes, please move this to the proper forum, I think its called "posts from people with rocks in their heads".
hahaha sorry, I could not resist.
I'd be careful not to get too excited...this is very dependent on the few developers we still have, wanting to stick around even longer to try to get this to work. They might decide to move onto a different tablet also...
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Mods please move this to proper section...thought the hammer was in effect?
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Yeah, this topic kinda made me a sad panda...
No ones perfect. But come on. Have a little respect by not posting useless threads in the dev forums.
Hello XDA,
As you may or may not know, the official CM9 Project for the HTC Amaze has not died at all. It is being worked on by developers like +Max Krivonos.
I am making this post mainly in hope of educating myself in regards to the development process and things realted to it.
I've been following the project since the day they released the video of what Max got working on the Amaze already. Over the course of many months, cable detection, SD card, and "wifi" was fixed. There are only problems like GSM and the Camera left. Now I understand that Max has been busy with a lot of things considering his comments on his update posts seem to say that, but I am just curious as to how long does it really take to get things like that fixed?
My HTC Amaze is only my second Android device to my HTC Sensation which I only had for about 2 months. I have never really followed a project exclusively so I have no idea as to what the average timeframe is. However, my main concern is that Max "opened the repo", and a leak for the ICS update already came out. Shouldn't this help a lot? There are already many developers who are pushing out very clean ROMs based off of the leak, and there's only around 2 problems with more than 1 developer working on the issues. How long does it really take?
I didn't want to bother Max and other devs by asking them because I'm sure they have a lot of things on their hands anyways. Like I said before, this is not meant to be negative in any way. I simply want to learn about this, because I have been very eager waiting for CM9 like everyone else.
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Hello XDA,
As you may or may not know, the official CM9 Project for the HTC Amaze has not died at all. It is being worked on by developers like +Max Krivonos.
I am making this post mainly in hope of educating myself in regards to the development process and things realted to it.
I've been following the project since the day they released the video of what Max got working on the Amaze already. Over the course of many months, cable detection, SD card, and "wifi" was fixed. There are only problems like GSM and the Camera left. Now I understand that Max has been busy with a lot of things considering his comments on his update posts seem to say that, but I am just curious as to how long does it really take to get things like that fixed?
My HTC Amaze is only my second Android device to my HTC Sensation which I only had for about 2 months. I have never really followed a project exclusively so I have no idea as to what the average timeframe is. However, my main concern is that Max "opened the repo", and a leak for the ICS update already came out. Shouldn't this help a lot? There are already many developers who are pushing out very clean ROMs based off of the leak, and there's only around 2 problems with more than 1 developer working on the issues. How long does it really take?
I didn't want to bother Max and other devs by asking them because I'm sure they have a lot of things on their hands anyways. Like I said before, this is not meant to be negative in any way. I simply want to learn about this, because I have been very eager waiting for CM9 like everyone else.
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i may be wrong so don't hold me to it. but i believe they need the wifi drivers which htc has not released yet to fully remove sense and get everything working. like i said i'm not positive but i think i read that somewhere else.
I think someone said Max quit working on it, and has posted his build online somewhere. As the poster above me said, it is because of the lack of source code atm. Once the ICS leak becomes "official", HTC should release the code. Keep in mind we're not really supposed to have this leak at the moment.
Max posted over a week ago that he was stopping his work on it as "he is just too busy" and released the repo.
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Max posted over a week ago that he was stopping his work on it as "he is just too busy" and released the repo.
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Gosh, I had no idea because I couldn't find anything like that on Google+
Who will be working on it? I guess another thing i'm trying to ask is if it's impossible to derive the source-code from the leak.
Well I definitely understand were your coming from but I think we just have to be patient like its hard trying to pull the drivers that are specifically made for the sense it takes time to try and rework those drivers for an aosp rom so I guess it would be wise to just be patient and wait to see what spot or xboarder is doing. I know xborarder is on android-dev.us and he's working with a couple of ppl on a Tom so just be patient man.
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Sportsman is working on cm9 for us, we he has a alpha build already. Go to the development thread to see it.
Sportstar* I guess my autocorret got me.
Over 10000!!! You bet I am.
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Sportsman is working on cm9 for us, we he has a alpha build already. Go to the development thread to see it.
Over 10000!!! You bet I am.
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Is it any good?
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Is it any good?
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Its good only this the radios are broke so he is working know getting them fixed its a kernal this so we have to wait
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Its good only this the radios are broke so he is working know getting them fixed its a kernal this so we have to wait
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Yeah I remember reading his thread a while back. Kernels rely on official releases? Can't someone build their own kernel? Does it take a long time?
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Yeah I remember reading his thread a while back. Kernels rely on official releases? Can't someone build their own kernel? Does it take a long time?
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Well it all depends on how many devs are working on it so yes kernals are very difficult if you don't know what your doing or if your just new period but just keep looking out for it I think it will come sooner than you think
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So I was thinking earlier today, according to a few people, we apparently have RIL working just not a kernel source to make AOKP/AOSP stable.
I also thought, well, we have plenty of people still running GB ROMs and people on GB firmware. Why don't people try to put together a CM7.2 ROM since we do have source for GB.
I'm pretty sure Android is all about choice and variety so I ask someone who is experienced in porting, development, etc. Why doesn't someone get in touch with Tekk, or whoever has RIL working and pop out a CM7 (.2?) port, it's still AOSP so it'll hold people over and hell, some people would probably prefer it, not to mention that I'm sure people would rather have a form of Cyanogenmod over nothing at all.
I have no clue how, nor the computer to ever begin trying it, so it's why I ask.
This would definitely be nice. Cm7.2 is amazing on my incredible. I would love to see it on the rezound! Maybe... Just maybe...
Gingerbread AOSP will be just as hard.
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Gingerbread AOSP will be just as hard.
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No it won't because the sources are available
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con247 said:
Gingerbread AOSP will be just as hard.
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They got everything working in ICS, would NONE of it be able to work towards GB??
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Gingerbread AOSP will be just as hard.
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I thought we had everything we needed available?
If RIL is fixed for ICS AOSP ROMs supposedly, and we're waiting for kernel source to get it stable, couldn't we translate the RIL fixes down to a GB AOSP ROM, I thought also since we have GB kernel source, all loose ends would be tied up?
We would need someone to take time to make a RIL. I doubt they would. They said in the passed they didn't want to cause of ICS but if we can't progress in CM9 due to kernel source. Why not progress in CM7. Might be a step back but you would make a lot of people happy.
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We would need someone to take time to make a RIL. I doubt they would. They said in the passed they didn't want to cause of ICS but if we can't progress in CM9 due to kernel source. Why not progress in CM7. Might be a step back but you would make a lot of people happy.
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This is kinda my sentiment, if we can't progress any farther on CM9 until HTC/Verizon get the OTA out (which could come as early as next week or as late as 2 months from now, if the latest June-July report is accurate), why not do a CM7 side project, it would seem we have most of, if not all of what we need available.
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This is kinda my sentiment, if we can't progress any farther on CM9 until HTC/Verizon get the OTA out, why not do a CM7 side project, it would seem we have most of, if not all of what we need available.
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"side project" Very well said
This would probably also bring us GB CM and MIUI.
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This would probably also bring us GB CM and MIUI.
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Which to me and probably many others is better than possibly nothing and if nothing else, just gives us some more variety which is never bad.
There are a ****load of other fixes aside from RIL that were done for ICS that would have to be redone for GB. For example, things like EGL took a long time to fix for ICS.
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There are a ****load of other fixes aside from RIL that were done for ICS that would have to be redone for GB. For example, things like EGL took a long time to fix for ICS.
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This I did not know, hence why I did ask about this;
I think this would great but idk if I could live without my apex launcher!!
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"side project" Very well said
This would probably also bring us GB CM and MIUI.
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Why is everybody asking for something instead of attempting to learn something and do it as their own "side-project"?
I got sick of waiting for AOSP, so I found one a ROM I liked and I asked the original dev if I could try to port it. He said go for it, and so I started working on it. Once I have a something worthy of going public, it might just pop up somewhere...
Anyways, the point is, why do I see everybody asking for things but nobody willing to try and do it themselves? Isn't the whole point of Android the ability to tinker with it and make it do whatever you want?
...but, if you're going to depend on someone else to do it for you, it just doesn't seem fair to ask the developers here to "hurry up" or go out of their way to develop something they aren't interested in using themselves..
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Why is everybody asking for something instead of attempting to learn something and do it as their own "side-project"?
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I am attempting to learn btw
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I am attempting to learn btw
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Me too! ****s taking up a lot of my time but it sure is fun!
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Me too! ****s taking up a lot of my time but it sure is fun!
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Sometimes it's fun. haha pain most of the time
I never came in here and asked people per say to do anything,
I did ask about the possibility of it happening and I said foremost that I'm not able to even try because I don't have a computer that's powerful enough to do that kind of work.
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I never came in here and asked people per say to do anything,
I did ask about the possibility of it happening and I said foremost that I'm not able to even try because I don't have a computer that's powerful enough to do that kind of work.
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I understand you were asking about the possibility and not saying something like "Hurry the hell up and give me at least CM7!" and honestly my comment wasn't directed at you at all, or any other single person for that matter. It just seems like in general, we have a common theme of people asking for things like they are entitled, but having no interest in actually contributing to anything at all. I was attempting to point out that really any of us could learn to do these things, if we would just try to spend some time on it...
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I understand you were asking about the possibility and not saying something like "Hurry the hell up and give me at least CM7!" and honestly my comment wasn't directed at you at all, or any other single person for that matter. It just seems like in general, we have a common theme of people asking for things like they are entitled, but having no interest in actually contributing to anything at all. I was attempting to point out that really any of us could learn to do these things, if we would just try to spend some time on it...
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I would love to learn, however I lack the time requirement to learn it with a full time + job, a three year old, a preggers wife, and a house to get ready for the new demon spawn. Sucks because I'd probably be pretty good at it too. I have no expectations on devs and will continue to patiently wait for anything they release.
Hey everyone, I'm new here and have been trying to find out what's going on with the i717 in regards to kitkat rom development. Anyone have any updates or know how soon we can expect to see some nightlies or any types of builds?
Thanks!
Has it even been released yet?
amcateesd said:
Hey everyone, I'm new here and have been trying to find out what's going on with the i717 in regards to kitkat rom development. Anyone have any updates or know how soon we can expect to see some nightlies or any types of builds?
Thanks!
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I will edit my original post here cause I was a bit of an A-hole. this was you first post and I didn't want your first impression to be as nobody here wants to help. of course if you had already read the previous, than I am too late and can only apologize.
a few spoken rules in one of the threads for newbies here.
1. run a search, maybe the question has already been asked before
2. read, read, read
3. help yourself first, as nobody is going to do the work for you.
there are thousands of people that are more than willing to help here, but you should be mindful of repeating questions as some folks can get irritated. it is usually someone that asks a specific question about an issue that was just addressed 2 post up or on the previous page.
making a personal request for an immediate feature that may have just been announce can also annoy some developers. some to the point where they have stopped developing.
good luck and remember to read
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I will edit my original post here cause I was a bit of an A-hole. this was you first post and I didn't want your first impression to be as nobody here wants to help. of course if you had already read the previous, than I am too late and can only apologize.
a few spoken rules in one of the threads for newbies here.
1. run a search, maybe the question has already been asked before
2. read, read, read
3. help yourself first, as nobody is going to do the work for you.
there are thousands of people that are more than willing to help here, but you should be mindful of repeating questions as some folks can get irritated. it is usually someone that asks a specific question about an issue that was just addressed 2 post up or on the previous page.
making a personal request for an immediate feature that may have just been announce can also annoy some developers. some to the point where they have stopped developing.
good luck and remember to read
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Thanks, I didn't read until after the edit, however from browsing around here I was worried I would just be told to shut the **** up etc...
I have tried looking all over the place for info on a 4.4 rom and if people are working on one for the i717. So far I can't find anything. I was just wondering if anyone knew if the phone would be getting a ROM or left behind.
Our latest official release was 4.1.2.
As you can see, we now have ROMs on 4.2.2, 4.3 and 4.3.1. I have not seen any devs "promise" a 4.4 rom, and I don't expect them to.
But, the 4.4 source just dropped few days ago, and I am pretty sure that they are looking at it, at the very least. If history is any indication, I would say we are going to get 4.4 roms eventually. Developing a rom is hard work, so please just wait.
Asking for an ETA might be irritating for devs, if you are not contributing to the development. And if you are contributing to the development, you should already know the answer to the question.
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Our latest official release was 4.1.2.
As you can see, we now have ROMs on 4.2.2, 4.3 and 4.3.1. I have not seen any devs "promise" a 4.4 rom, and I don't expect them to.
But, the 4.4 source just dropped few days ago, and I am pretty sure that they are looking at it, at the very least. If history is any indication, I would say we are going to get 4.4 roms eventually. Developing a rom is hard work, so please just wait.
Asking for an ETA might be irritating for devs, if you are not contributing to the development. And if you are contributing to the development, you should already know the answer to the question.
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Sorry, I don't mean to annoy anyone. I only came here because no other place had info and was told to go to XDA. I am not trying to rush anyone and I know these things are a ton of work. Like I said I was only wondering if people thought at some point 4.4 would come to the i717 not plz give me rom now.
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Sorry, I don't mean to annoy anyone. I only came here because no other place had info and was told to go to XDA. I am not trying to rush anyone and I know these things are a ton of work. Like I said I was only wondering if people thought at some point 4.4 would come to the i717 not plz give me rom now.
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Jamie has gotten CM11 to fully build for the i717 but he hasn't completely debugged it yet.....I would think he will be posting it soon.
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Jamie has gotten CM11 to fully build for the i717 but he hasn't completely debugged it yet.....I would think he will be posting it soon.
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Thank you so much for your answer! It's nice to see people take five seconds to answer a simple question, I really do appreciate it. Have a greatrest of your day!!!
Its just a phone.
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Its just a phone.
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And?
He posted the preview in General. I haven't been able to flash it personally because I use TWRP (and only CWM works at this point) but you're welcome to check it out. Flashed CWM Recover to try. P3 ran well, although obviously a bit buggy. P4 is out now with less bugs--both ran smoothly...well enough that I'm happy using it as a daily driver.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2518785&highlight=4+4+kitkat
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He posted the preview in General. I haven't been able to flash it personally because I use TWRP (and only CWM works at this point) but you're welcome to check it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2518785&highlight=4+4+kitkat
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Yes, relative to ASOP/CM, the ones that I am aware of: JamieD81 is already working a version of CM11 plus his stand-alone Uber kernel and I believe that you will see Liquidsmooth (Patch_Adams) and Hellybean (ThdDude) come up with their versions.If you have not yet tried them, they all have excellent 4.3.1 kernel & Jellybean builds.
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ddochi11 said:
Our latest official release was 4.1.2.
As you can see, we now have ROMs on 4.2.2, 4.3 and 4.3.1. I have not seen any devs "promise" a 4.4 rom, and I don't expect them to.
But, the 4.4 source just dropped few days ago, and I am pretty sure that they are looking at it, at the very least. If history is any indication, I would say we are going to get 4.4 roms eventually. Developing a rom is hard work, so please just wait.
Asking for an ETA might be irritating for devs, if you are not contributing to the development. And if you are contributing to the development, you should already know the answer to the question.
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I would be happy with 4.3 if MHL works to use Chromecast features.
Would love to recycle older devices and connect to TV or Projector permanently.
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what's stopping devs from porting it?
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what's stopping devs from porting it?
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Time, resources, and a large amount of users who are complaining about a lack of 4.4 while doing nothing to try and help. We have very few devs working on this, and they're putting all of their focus into stable 4.3 builds before they take on 4.4.
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WindyCityRockr said:
Time, resources, and a large amount of users who are complaining about a lack of 4.4 while doing nothing to try and help. We have very few devs working on this, and they're putting all of their focus into stable 4.3 builds before they take on 4.4.
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thanks for the nice response, but what I meant was, will it ever come or are missing drivers or other code that manufacturers won't provide the real problem ?
hyeclass said:
thanks for the nice response, but what I meant was, will it ever come or are missing drivers or other code that manufacturers won't provide the real problem ?
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oh god damn it, IT WILL HAPPEN.....or instead of people nagging and constantly asking, how about people HELP...
there are 3 AOSP source dev's for the inter X+ and one for the AT&T X+
so not many dev's.....i'd stop nagging if i were you lot
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oh god damn it, IT WILL HAPPEN.....or instead of people nagging and constantly asking, how about people HELP...
there are 3 AOSP source dev's for the inter X+ and one for the AT&T X+
so not many dev's.....i'd stop nagging if i were you lot
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are you ok?
I'm just ASKING if there is something that is blocking the development like missing drivers, because I read somewhere that it will "NEVER HAPPEN FOR ONE X+ BECAUSE SOME DRIVERS WERE MISSING AND WOULD NEVER BE OPEN SOURCED BY THE MANUFACTURER"
but thanks for going all asshole on me because people ask you about it too much
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are you ok?
but thanks for going all asshole on me because people ask you about it too much
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You do realize that you just called one of the only devs of hox+ for both roms and kernels who has plenty of other things and devices to do, less reason to continue the support for this phone. Maybe try this thing called Google, I hear you can find answers there for various questions... Or as Loir suggested go and build your own environment and try to port 4,4 over and then see what errors you get in the compile. Then collaborate with the others to fix or at least circumvent them.
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You do realize that you just called one of the only devs of hox+ for both roms and kernels who has plenty of other things and devices to do, less reason to continue the support for this phone. Maybe try this thing called Google, I hear you can find answers there for various questions... Or as Loir suggested go and build your own environment and try to port 4,4 over and then see what errors you get in the compile. Then collaborate with the others to fix or at least circumvent them.
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sorry for bowing down to him...
I'm thankful for his work. but he misinterprets my question and tells me to stop nagging
are you really telling me to google that stuff when xda is the only real trustable source? google will give you 50 sites that say 4.4 is ready and another 50 that say it will never happen.
and I've been following his thread on 4.4 but the only thing I ask for is if there is something blocking the development.
I think you guys are really frustrated... if it's such a huge buzzkill for you/him then **** it don't port it.
I was really expecting an answer like :"we're waiting for manufacturer X to release sources for x or y"
or maybe "the chipset doesn't support a core function" or something along those lines
hyeclass said:
sorry for bowing down to him...
I'm thankful for his work. but he misinterprets my question and tells me to stop nagging
are you really telling me to google that stuff when xda is the only real trustable source? google will give you 50 sites that say 4.4 is ready and another 50 that say it will never happen.
and I've been following his thread on 4.4 but the only thing I ask for is if there is something blocking the development.
I think you guys are really frustrated... if it's such a huge buzzkill for you/him then **** it don't port it.
I was really expecting an answer like :"we're waiting for manufacturer X to release sources for x or y"
or maybe "the chipset doesn't support a core function" or something along those lines
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You kind of missed the whole point of xda. It's about helping out others, BUT if you don't get the answers you want then you are supposed to find out and then contribute that information! There's nothing stopping you from trying it yourself to see how difficult it can really be.
No I didn't expect you google 4.4 kitkat development, However there are plenty of other threads and forums also irc chats where all the problems get discussed. Those can be found by searching on google. Maybe adjust your criteria.
As for being frustrated, you a damn right, most other platforms either get the help or ability to perform s-off and many other documents/source code for their devices, HTC and nVidia in their infinite wisdom have choosen not to give out much at all to help to development community for the enrc2b . As for you saying its a "buzzkill" for us and that you aren't happy with all the work that people have been putting in for over a year now, all for free and available to everyone to enjoy at their discretion, maybe you should grow up and consider your words more carefully.
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You kind of missed the whole point of xda. It's about helping out others, BUT if you don't get the answers you want then you are supposed to find out and then contribute that information! There's nothing stopping you from trying it yourself to see how difficult it can really be.
No I didn't expect you google 4.4 kitkat development, However there are plenty of other threads and forums also irc chats where all the problems get discussed. Those can be found by searching on google. Maybe adjust your criteria.
As for being frustrated, you a damn right, most other platforms either get the help or ability to perform s-off and many other documents/source code for their devices, HTC and nVidia in their infinite wisdom have choosen not to give out much at all to help to development community for the enrc2b . As for you saying its a "buzzkill" for us and that you aren't happy with all the work that people have been putting in for over a year now, all for free and available to everyone to enjoy at their discretion, maybe you should grow up and consider your words more carefully.
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you do realise that the last paragraphe of your answer is what I've been looking for right?
and why would you think I wasn't happy with the work? why else would I be here...
what my next point was going to be... was that... I think that htc and nvidia think nobody really cares about the devices because as far as searching for answers there are really not many people posting about it and contributing to porting the code(like you said yourself, and I understand it sucks).
it's also a device you don't see often... I have yet to encounter somebody IRL with a one x+
Maybe some sort of petition could help push them to release it? it's not like it's top secret alien stuff their holding back...
hyeclass said:
you do realise that the last paragraphe of your answer is what I've been looking for right?
and why would you think I wasn't happy with the work? why else would I be here...
what my next point was going to be... was that... I think that htc and nvidia think nobody really cares about the devices because as far as searching for answers there are really not many people posting about it and contributing to porting the code(like you said yourself, and I understand it sucks).
it's also a device you don't see often... I have yet to encounter somebody IRL with a one x+
Maybe some sort of petition could help push them to release it? it's not like it's top secret alien stuff their holding back...
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petitions are as much use as a chocolate teacup, it won't do squat
hyeclass said:
you do realise that the last paragraphe of your answer is what I've been looking for right?
and why would you think I wasn't happy with the work? why else would I be here...
what my next point was going to be... was that... I think that htc and nvidia think nobody really cares about the devices because as far as searching for answers there are really not many people posting about it and contributing to porting the code(like you said yourself, and I understand it sucks).
it's also a device you don't see often... I have yet to encounter somebody IRL with a one x+
Maybe some sort of petition could help push them to release it? it's not like it's top secret alien stuff their holding back...
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Long story short, mass emailing, petitions, phone calls, everything they choose to ignore. Even though its been argued that they are violating the gpl its all been tried and a lot of people and devs have been pissed off enough to switch to a different platform. The guys that are left are basically the best ones we've ever had and have done so much with so little help. The device was sort of shunned by the retail guys, not sure why, it wasn't even officially released in my country. Maybe thats the problem, there weren't enough of them at the start to bother. Either way Loir and the other guys, Tom Briden and lately PippoX3 have been doing a great job.
Hopefully now the source code for 4.4.1 has been released for nexis devices yesterday to the aosp community, we might get some more help on the porting side of things for hox+
as it stands right now, @tombriden is busy moving home, @maxwen has moved on, @PippoX3 has moved on, so it means i'm the only one left for the time being.
I'am trying to bring the AT&T X+ into the fold, while trying to maintain the enrc2b and the HTC First user's wanting my attention. All i ask are more people to step up and help, in little ways if need's be.... i will adjust my tutorial later for building from source.
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as it stands right now, @tombriden is busy moving home, @maxwen has moved on, @PippoX3 has moved on, so it means i'm the only one left for the time being.
I'am trying to bring the AT&T X+ into the fold, while trying to maintain the enrc2b and the HTC First user's wanting my attention. All i ask are more people to step up and help, in little ways if need's be.... i will adjust my tutorial later for building from source.
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Unfortunately the time is very tight... personally I choose hammerhead to have much less works to do.
I'm waiting to sell my HOX+. And without a device to test roms, is much difficult.
As @tombriden says a lot of times: got a life. Family and job has priority...
I believe that developer with much more time to spend on, are teen agers without family commitments.
Anyway if I'm not wrong, the hard-core to overcome is the kernel.
PippoX3 said:
Unfortunately the time is very tight... personally I choose hammerhead to have much less works to do.
I'm waiting to sell my HOX+. And without a device to test roms, is much difficult.
As @tombriden says a lot of times: got a life. Family and job has priority...
I believe that developer with much more time to spend on, are teen agers without family commitments.
Anyway if I'm not wrong, the hard-core to overcome is the kernel.
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yeap completely agree with you