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Having read that Three have now released the Jellybean update, before the unlocked handsets direct from Samsung, it got me thinking. I purchased an unlocked S3 through phones4u but on the Orange Network.. Would it allow me to update my handset if i were to put a Three SIM card in ?? I'm guessing not but If soo, would there be any consequences??
Sorry if this is a novice question, just wondered.
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No it doesn't work like that. If you are desperate you can always use Odin to flash it. (Lots of tutorials and guides on here) or just wait for the official update
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It doesn't matter if your phones locked or unlocked, or what network it was on or what sim you have in...
If your phone is Three branded (usually means you purchased it from Three) then kies will let you upgrade to Jellybean. If it's an unlocked simfree unit (as p4u would sell it) you have to wait for Samsung to release their simfree handset update.
Three, voda and O2 have all updated within the last 7days, even Virgin have announced that their update will be available this week, so shouldn't be long now until Samsung and orange/t-mob do..
Annoying though, I don't understand why there is a delay on Orange, especially when they've had the LTE i9305 available for over a week already running on Orange-branded Jellybean.. Surely there's not going to be that much difference, I doubt they'd run into any problems for the I9300 update.
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HTC 8x has started getting updates of the new OS. Any news on when Lumia phones will get the update?
No news, but I assume quite fast for unlocked phones. Rest are subject to carriers I assume.
http://www.wpcentral.com/first-ota-update-windows-phone-8-os-now-live-htc-8x
http://www.wpcentral.com/new-windows-phone-8-os-update-portico-brings-sms-drafts-and-call-reject-it
Supposed to be able to bypass the carriers. But considering this is the first update pushed, I'm sure we'll learn more soon.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012...rovide-an-escape-from-carrier-update-tyranny/
This looks promising ?
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peterfnet said:
Supposed to be able to bypass the carriers. But considering this is the first update pushed, I'm sure we'll learn more soon.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012...rovide-an-escape-from-carrier-update-tyranny/
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Bypass carriers, yes. Bypass OEMs, no
This should mean that we get a 920 update for each "build" of the 920 that exists, once Nokia does whatever they do to it. They should have it from Microsoft (one would think) already.
schettj said:
Bypass carriers, yes. Bypass OEMs, no
This should mean that we get a 920 update for each "build" of the 920 that exists, once Nokia does whatever they do to it. They should have it from Microsoft (one would think) already.
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They will have it already, and it's in Nokia's interests to get it out fast and ideally beat HTC to the punch every time, as HTC have been set up as Premier Partners. Nokia want to be THE choice for WP8 buyers, so they need to be there first with the best reputation for updates and excellent hardware.
Nokia obviously has that build available because the Lumia 920T (the chinese variant) is already running that newer build of the OS.
true, must just be waiting for the rollout ok from carriers. I'll check my 8X to see if that's updating on EE, that way we should know if the carriers are slowing things down or not with a quick carrier vs unlocked update speed comparison.
(Groan) I hope it's not the carriers. Pulling teeth with oily fingers is easier than persuading AT&T to release updates in a timely manner. :\
peterfnet said:
Supposed to be able to bypass the carriers. But considering this is the first update pushed, I'm sure we'll learn more soon.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012...rovide-an-escape-from-carrier-update-tyranny/
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schettj said:
Bypass carriers, yes. Bypass OEMs, no
This should mean that we get a 920 update for each "build" of the 920 that exists, once Nokia does whatever they do to it. They should have it from Microsoft (one would think) already.
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That enthusiasts program hasn't rolled out yet. You have to sign up to this program in order to bypass your carrier.
I flashed my EE 920 to a generic UK ROM, will this make a difference to when the update appears?
gilesjuk said:
I flashed my EE 920 to a generic UK ROM, will this make a difference to when the update appears?
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probably not, since carriers no longer decide updates, Microsoft manages it now
the_tyrant said:
probably not, since carriers no longer decide updates, Microsoft manages it now
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wishful thinking with zero facts behind it.
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gilesjuk said:
I flashed my EE 920 to a generic UK ROM, will this make a difference to when the update appears?
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how do you know what rom is a generic one? I have been searching but i haven´t find it yet. can you help me'
thanks in advance
Adding to that, does 4G still work on the generic UK ROM, as EE has 4G specific software bits, e.g. the 3G/2G toggle is now the 4G/3G toggle.
So, since I have a Rogers branded but unlocked phone and running it on Telus, what bucket would I be put in? Would I get the generic updates or the Rogers? My phone STILL says that the Mobile Operator Name is ROG-CA, so I'm not too sure what to make of my situation.
jeromel said:
So, since I have a Rogers branded but unlocked phone and running it on Telus, what bucket would I be put in? Would I get the generic updates or the Rogers? My phone STILL says that the Mobile Operator Name is ROG-CA, so I'm not too sure what to make of my situation.
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You will be under the mercy of Rogers. In order to get out of Roger's grip, you will need to be de-branded. SIM unlock means nothing. In the old days of WM7.0, you can jailbreak your phone and edit a registry to de-brand. Now, you pretty much have to flash a unbranded ROM to do it.
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You will be under the mercy of Rogers. In order to get out of Roger's grip, you will need to be de-branded. SIM unlock means nothing. In the old days of WM7.0, you can jailbreak your phone and edit a registry to de-brand. Now, you pretty much have to flash a unbranded ROM to do it.
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I reject your answer and substitute it with my own. The answer is...
Crap... NaviFirm only has 2 ROMs for the Canadian versions... both of which are Rogers branded. I'm SOOL.
gallegus said:
how do you know what rom is a generic one? I have been searching but i haven´t find it yet. can you help me'
thanks in advance
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Well it doesn't have the name of a mobile network in the filename. I went from one with EE and UK in the filename to one which just says CV GB.
My neighbor told me he saw this on the news. I checked on Taptu and sure enough there is an article on CNet saying that this Saturday it will become illegal to unlock any device without the carriers approval. I cant post the link cause i have fewer than 10 posts. Bummer.
Does anyone know anything more about this? How can they make an open source project like Android illegal. I understand the "Buy an unlocked device." idea, but but where I live there's simply no carrier that supports the use of an "unlocked" device.
I was just wondering what u devs thought about this. Will this effect any pure Google devices such as my GNex? What about my HTC phone which HTC provides the means of unlocking? Is that having the carrier's approval?
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trxrider31 said:
My neighbor told me he saw this on the news. I checked on Taptu and sure enough there is an article on CNet saying that this Saturday it will become illegal to unlock any device without the carriers approval. I cant post the link cause i have fewer than 10 posts. Bummer.
Does anyone know anything more about this? How can they make an open source project like Android illegal. I understand the "Buy an unlocked device." idea, but but where I live there's simply no carrier that supports the use of an "unlocked" device.
I was just wondering what u devs thought about this. Will this effect any pure Google devices such as my GNex? What about my HTC phone which HTC provides the means of unlocking? Is that having the carrier's approval?
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If the device is a Google branded device - coming straight from Google, not from any carriers like att or Verizon, then it shouldn't affect the device. So if you have a Verizon Gnex, yes. UNLESS Verizon decides to support it. This is why I always get my phone from Google itself as a device with no limitations except the hardware inside.
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Have a Look at this thread
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guys rooting and unlocking phones are legal!!!
So will there be a "grandfather" clause that will allow me to keep my GNex unlocked or will they be able to somehow re-lock my LTE GNex?
As i stated, the only svc available where I live, aka. the sticks, is LTE. I am not aware of any unlocked device worth owning that uses the lte network. Suggestions??
And what about my HTC Rezound with unlocked bootloader? I mean, verizon had to allow HTC to sell its phone with the unlockable bootloader?? I would think that they allowed the GNex as well? I mean its only a select few devices that have this built in.
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imda1 said:
guys rooting and unlocking phones are legal!!!
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THe former is. The latter will soon be illegal.
imda1 said:
guys rooting and unlocking phones are legal!!!
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Is illegal in Bulgaria ago. And refuse warranty service if are changed ROM or device is ROOTed.
The only reason I like my android is because I can change the roms and root the phone. Allows so much customization and additional support when the manufacturer rather you go buy another phone every year.
Please understand. Rooting != Unlocking
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dibblebill said:
Please understand. Rooting != Unlocking
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Not sure what you are saying. Are you saying rooting will not be illegal but that loading a new ROM on a phone that makes the phone no longer carrier locked will be?
Most of these forums revolve around putting new, improved, unlocked ROMs on our phones. If that's going to be illegal on the 26th, then we've got problems because all these forums will be about illegal activities!
Have I missed something?
trxrider31 said:
My neighbor told me he saw this on the news. I checked on Taptu and sure enough there is an article on CNet saying that this Saturday it will become illegal to unlock any device without the carriers approval. I cant post the link cause i have fewer than 10 posts. Bummer.
Does anyone know anything more about this? How can they make an open source project like Android illegal. I understand the "Buy an unlocked device." idea, but but where I live there's simply no carrier that supports the use of an "unlocked" device.
I was just wondering what u devs thought about this. Will this effect any pure Google devices such as my GNex? What about my HTC phone which HTC provides the means of unlocking? Is that having the carrier's approval?
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I don't know how I missed this thread, I looked....but I just posted this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2119633
Sign the Petition
it is important to do something against that so sign this petition https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-unlocking-cell-phones-legal/1g9KhZG7 !!
not sure in your country
depends on your countrys laws and if you purchased the phone straight from google them selves
There are many petitions floating around, yet, I don't believe this will be around for very long. If you PURCHASE your phone it's fine. The problem lies in people upgrading, unlocking, then selling their phones. So second party (the people that buy the unlocked phones) may be held liable as the IMEI might not be registered at 'sale' or 'upgrade' even though those numbers are plainly posted on the sales package. It still pisses me off though. I upgrade and don't really use the phones I get directly, (I don't sell the phone until my service agreement eligible for another upgrade) and to think someone I sell a phone to may be held criminally liable pisses me off. Even the same when I buy a phone considering ignorance is not an excuse. How many noobs are here begging for information? Say some kid buys an unlocked ICrap to use on T-Mobile? Pops in the SIM Card and gets reported. Who wins?
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Please understand. Rooting != Unlocking
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Boy are you way off. Rooting has nothing to do with it. This is for sim unlock only
Batcom2
Speeding in a school zone is illegal too but we all catch ourselves doing.
I suggest if you unlock your at&t phone you don't go calling them saying your going to T-Mobile. You wouldn't speed in front of that cop.
BTW this doesn't seem like a big deal. Hopefully it ends subsidized phones with two year plans so people can not have to wait 2 years to switch. If you paid 800 for it then you can unlock it, or what some people said where you make a backup of your stock and then do whatever.
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zelendel said:
Boy are you way off. Rooting has nothing to do with it. This is for sim unlock only
Batcom2
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I guess you don't understand what != means.
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I don't understand what is the problem of lawmakers, but one of them are simply f**ed up.
1. If i bought a phone from a carrier and i'm still paying the monthly fee, until my contract ends, what is the problem of the carrier if i unlock the device?!
2. If i unlock the device, root it or change the rom, i must be aware i will void my warranty.
Hi all,
in 2 weeks I can choose a new phone and I am doubting between the S4 and HTC One. I have played with both phones and currently my preference is the HTC One and that would be my first HTC.
However I often read the update policy/support is not that good, would this a reason for you not to buy the One? Personally I don't want to root phones so I am dependent on these updates. Can HTC afford not to give proper support looking at their current position as company?
Interested in your opinion, thanks.
The HTC One will be supported. I wouldn't let that concern keep you from choosing the One.
Now, if Google announces a Nexus 5 at I/O....
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The entire company (htc) is riding on this phone. They have already released the source. You can unlock this phone through htcdev. There is already an update and they have submitted it to carriers (it's not 4.2.2 but it shows us commitment).
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There's already been 2 updates, and 4.2.2 is supposed to come out next month.
Hey guys,
I have an unlocked AT&T Nokia Lumia 920 that I am using with a different carrier at the moment. I am still on Windows Phone 8 software and it says there are no updates at this time when I try to update the phone. Can I update it to Amber? Is there an Amber around that works with USA ATT Lumia 920?
Please help me out if you know, I see a lot of threads saying update to Amber but is this for like Europe phones or?
Please include a link if you have one for me to update it the right way.
Appreciate it all, thanks.
Amber has not been released for ATT devices yet. They still have to make their official ATT changes and bloatware before they will release for their devices.
cnile said:
Hey guys,
I have an unlocked AT&T Nokia Lumia 920 that I am using with a different carrier at the moment. I am still on Windows Phone 8 software and it says there are no updates at this time when I try to update the phone. Can I update it to Amber? Is there an Amber around that works with USA ATT Lumia 920?
Please help me out if you know, I see a lot of threads saying update to Amber but is this for like Europe phones or?
Please include a link if you have one for me to update it the right way.
Appreciate it all, thanks.
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You can use AT&T Developer's Devices ROM...
boril said:
You can use AT&T Developer's Devices ROM...
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That is not Amber though and is not supposed to be used by Average Joe Consumer. I suspect someday ATT or Nokia will send a bullet out that will kill all phones running Dev ROMS and are not registered as Dev phones. Dev ROMS allow people to get around certain parts of the system.
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That is not Amber though and is not supposed to be used by Average Joe Consumer. I suspect someday ATT or Nokia will send a bullet out that will kill all phones running Dev ROMS and are not registered as Dev phones. Dev ROMS allow people to get around certain parts of the system.
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hahahahahha hahahahhahah LOL
AT&T Dev Devices are Nokia 920 phones, which where given on BUILD Conf. of Microsof....there is nothing to do with developers unlocked devices, which can be any Windows Phone registered in Microsoft with Developer account. The ROM is clean of any AT&T bull****s and only AT&T Device which has Amber update so far.
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Amber has not been released for ATT devices yet. They still have to make their official ATT changes and bloatware before they will release for their devices.
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It is taking much longer than any other update. I think that they might be skipping GDR2 and going right to GDR3 which is going to be announced with the 1520/whatever they call it towards the end of this month.