Is there? i cant find any solution and i tried several tools.
Or way to unlock after OTA to ics without getting back to gingerbread and using revolutionary. And not the official way..
thx
jojkos said:
Is there? i cant find any solution and i tried several tools.
Or way to unlock after OTA to ics without getting back to gingerbread and using revolutionary. And not the official way..
thx
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Are you GSM or CDMA?
I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to accomplish, but if your phone is the CDMA model and you've never unlocked your bootloader you can get S-OFF and then root without unlocking the bootloader using the Revolutionary method in closeone's thread in the stickies of the CDMA development forum. Some people have even gotten it to work with the Sprint ICS (2.89.651.2) build installed, but it requires "bricking" the phone twice.
OTOH, the JuopunutBear S-OFF method resets the bootloader status from "unlocked" to "locked" so there is no indication on the phone that you ever did the HTC unlock, and that works for both GSM and CDMA.
It sounds like you've already done some homework so you must have a specific reason for wanting to do it another way?
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Are you GSM or CDMA?
I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to accomplish, but if your phone is the CDMA model and you've never unlocked your bootloader you can get S-OFF and then root without unlocking the bootloader using the Revolutionary method in closeone's thread in the stickies of the CDMA development forum. Some people have even gotten it to work with the Sprint ICS (2.89.651.2) build installed, but it requires "bricking" the phone twice.
OTOH, the JuopunutBear S-OFF method resets the bootloader status from "unlocked" to "locked" so there is no indication on the phone that you ever did the HTC unlock, and that works for both GSM and CDMA.
It sounds like you've already done some homework so you must have a specific reason for wanting to do it another way?
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i forgot to mention, my bad. I have GSM. I didnt want to loose warranty because of the official method, but if you say that there is a way to revert it (i thought they would keep record of me unlocking phone but i dont really know), then it would be ok to unlock it that way. Also i wanted to know if ther is easy and fast way to make root/temp root so i could only do a backup.
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i forgot to mention, my bad. I have GSM. I didnt want to loose warranty because of the official method, but if you say that there is a way to revert it (i thought they would keep record of me unlocking phone but i dont really know), then it would be ok to unlock it that way. Also i wanted to know if ther is easy and fast way to make root/temp root so i could only do a backup.
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If you htcdev unlock, HTC will know that you requested a token, but not whether you actually unlocked or not. I'm not sure how they handle that for the purpose of warranty claims, but maybe someone else here has experience with that.
Regarding temp root, it's possible, but not on the the ICS releases since HTC has patched the vulnerablility used for the "tacoroot" method. I've also heard that the phone is very unstable while temp rooted and sometime won't boot. You might be better off using a tool like MyBackup Pro that doesn't require root and has a 30 day trial with full functionality.
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If you htcdev unlock, HTC will know that you requested a token, but not whether you actually unlocked or not. I'm not sure how they handle that for the purpose of warranty claims, but maybe someone else here has experience with that.
Regarding temp root, it's possible, but not on the the ICS releases since HTC has patched the vulnerablility used for the "tacoroot" method. I've also heard that the phone is very unstable while temp rooted and sometime won't boot. You might be better off using a tool like MyBackup Pro that doesn't require root and has a 30 day trial with full functionality.
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well thank you very much for all your help i think ill try htcdev unlock method
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So as some of us should know HTC Legend can now be Hboot unlocked and can gain S-off. Now, a question for some of you phone nerds out there, what benefits does having S-off actually give you, other than running adblocking applications. I've been thinking about unlocking my bootloader to get S-off but heard that it is an irreversible method, so I need to make sure if it is worth it or not.
-cheers
That's a good question, what can one do with on S-off legend that you can't do with the new unlocked bootloader. Except return under warranty.
BTW HTC knows we unlocked our phone, that is why we need to provide a device token.
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If I know correct, S-OFFing is a unlocking procedure that gives access to /radio and simlock.
So, unlocked bootloader gives every access except /radio and simlock. To get these you'd have to S-OFF, which is impossible on 1.02.0000 (?)
He actually wants to know the benefits of unlocking his bootloader through the HTC-way.
Benefits include being able to flash a recovery (No more fakeflash recovery booting needed)
And alter animations/host file/everything else that lives in /system/. Apps like metamorph need this. All in all it's a pretty easy procedure, and there's little reason not to do it, especially if your warranty has expired.
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He actually wants to know the benefits of unlocking his bootloader through the HTC-way.
Benefits include being able to flash a recovery (No more fakeflash recovery booting needed)
And alter animations/host file/everything else that lives in /system/. Apps like metamorph need this. All in all it's a pretty easy procedure, and there's little reason not to do it, especially if your warranty has expired.
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Well I won't be doing it anytime sooner since my 2 year contract isn't even halfway yet. Cheers for the input.
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Is it possible to get temp root only in such a way it doesn't mark the bootloader as TAMPERED?
For what it's worth, there is only a handful of reasons I would ever need root access and quite honestly I don't see the need to be rooted 100% of the time.
However, I don't feel the need to have to unlock the entire bootloader from HTC Dev just to install an APK or two.
Thanks for any pointers!
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Is it possible to get temp root only in such a way it doesn't mark the bootloader as TAMPERED?
For what it's worth, there is only a handful of reasons I would ever need root access and quite honestly I don't see the need to be rooted 100% of the time.
However, I don't feel the need to have to unlock the entire bootloader from HTC Dev just to install an APK or two.
Thanks for any pointers!
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You only need to unlock the bootloader if you want to flash custom roms and such. If you just want root access for apps just use zedomax's root and dont unlock the bootloader. You only get the tampered messages if you unlock the bootloader.
njfoses said:
You only need to unlock the bootloader if you want to flash custom roms and such. If you just want root access for apps just use zedomax's root and dont unlock the bootloader. You only get the tampered messages if you unlock the bootloader.
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Actually that's wrong. They're two different things. If you root, it'll show tampered, whether unlocked or not. Locking or unlocking will not effect tampered status. Any root will show tampered. It goes away if you use RUU.
To answer the question asked, no. At the current time it is not possible to root without tampered bootloader
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Actually that's wrong. They're two different things. If you root, it'll show tampered, whether unlocked or not. Locking or unlocking will not effect tampered status. Any root will show tampered. It goes away if you use RUU.
To answer the question asked, no. At the current time it is not possible to root without tampered bootloader
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Yea i didnt word it very well. I assumed the reason the op was asking is so he could get back completely to stock if need be. If he only roots and then runs the ruu he would be back to stock. Thanks for clearing it up.
Thanks for the info - I didn't understand the mechanism that triggers the bootloader to show tampered.
Ultimately, I was looking into determining whether or not ICS encrypted the mail (not gmail) database, regardless of the device itself being encrypted or not.
Sorry if this is posted before or buried in the mountain of threads, but from what i've read so far, does the root method actually give you S-OFF? I don't want to root it if i wont be able to flash roms. Also, when i plugged in my device the driver updated and its 2.0.7.3. Does that mean i dont need to download the drivers?
tampered just means rooted if you want to unlock your bootloader so you can flash custom roms.click on the link below and it has instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
Check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
There is no S-Off for this phone as of yet, but I don't think we'll need it. Root is different than S-Off.
S-Off is closer to an Unlocked bootloader, which the post I directed to you does. With this method you'll be able to flash roms using TWRP.
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Sorry if this is posted before or buried in the mountain of threads, but from what i've read so far, does the root method actually give you S-OFF? I don't want to root it if i wont be able to flash roms. Also, when i plugged in my device the driver updated and its 2.0.7.3. Does that mean i dont need to download the drivers?
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Currently there is no S-Off method available for this phone (as of right now). But we've come to find out that we don't need S-Off that much on this phone.
Even with S-On, you can flash roms, mods, tweaks, etc. Hell you can even flash Radios now (which use to be reserved for S-Off).
The current method is HTCDev Unlock. It does mark your bootloader as 'tampered'. But when am I going to actually use a manufacturer warranty or somebody like Sprint is actually going to check the Bootloader. But even that is different from root. You can root, which will give you root access. Then if you want you can unlock the bootloader which will allow you to flash a custom recovery which will allow you to flash Roms, etc.
Edit: I've been ninja'd.
Thank you very much guys
So in order to flash custom ROMs I have to unlock the bootloader (and void the warranty)?
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So in order to flash custom ROMs I have to unlock the bootloader (and void the warranty)?
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yes, but you can make it seem as if you never unlocked by ruu'ing. sprint will never know... if it gets that bad, "somebody stole it."
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yes, but you can make it seem as if you never unlocked by ruu'ing. sprint will never know... if it gets that bad, "somebody stole it."
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Well sprint only gives 30 days warranty anyways so I am actually worried about HTC's warranty. I dont have the insurance through Sprint (which I heard is going to increase to 10 bucks a month).
I know that i can pay to sim unlock our desire 610 but surely s-off has been achieved so we can change our CID to sim unlock our device for free??
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I know that i can pay to sim unlock our desire 610 but surely s-off has been achieved so we can change our CID to sim unlock our device for free??
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We....don't have s-off
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We....don't have s-off
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And no one is working on it?
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And no one is working on it?
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I have the same problem , i buy htc desire 610 vodafone uk , with lock, i root the phone, erase all, install recovery - rom AT&T ,
but only way is buy unlock code service... and pay 26 $ approx :crying:
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There is/was someone in the general board who received and is selling s-off 610s. (No actualperson bought from his sale, so I don't know if he was lying or if it was an error)
ClearD is working on a Rom, so he's probably the only person currently with an idea of how to go about it. Like I said though, he's been working pretty hard on the Rom so he may be reticent to start a new project.
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Phew. I appreciate the thought, but that is way beyond my level of experience. However, I do have information of someone working on an s-off for our device. It's probably going to be a while until it's finalized, but it will work on a wide range of devices, similar to Sunshine. It will also be a paid app, like Sunshine. But, I'd pay for s-off myself. It's important. Lol
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Phew. I appreciate the thought, but that is way beyond my level of experience. However, I do have information of someone working on an s-off for our device. It's probably going to be a while until it's finalized, but it will work on a wide range of devices, similar to Sunshine. It will also be a paid app, like Sunshine. But, I'd pay for s-off myself. It's important. Lol
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Can you elaborate a little on that? I know s-off is important but if the bootloader is unlocked and we have a kernel doesn't that mean we can flash unsigned zips already?
Or is it more about using it on other carriers? I have no intention but if I gave this phone to someone, could they take it to say verizon and activate it?
I'm just confused. I guess I don't know the difference between s-off an unlocked bootloader for practical reasons.
Unlocked bootloader lets us flash system, boot, and recovery partitions. That's about it. We can't change the Cid or splash screen or radio image, as those are still security protected. Like the warning screen from the early root method? It's the splash screen. We can remove that once we get s-off. Basically s-off lets you change/flash anything.
Is anyone try "oneclick root" option from MobileGo PC Suite?
On Youtube is posted video(animated presentation)how to root Desire 610 with MobileGo.
On Wondreshare Mobilego Forum is even link to additional root tool: "CC Root" http : //goo.gl/IsyzC
Some with D610 as backup phone maybe wish try, no word about S-OFF, reverse option (from root) is not supported.
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"oneclick root" option is available in free version of app.
We've already got a root tool... A very simple root tool. That I made. It doesn't s-off.
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We've already got a root tool... A very simple root tool. That I made. It doesn't s-off.
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Is not bad thing knowing if exist more than one option how to root 610, true is that no any feedback about MobileGo root method on any htc phone.
I would prefer wish to hear from you an answer like: I could try...
Thx
We already have more than one root method. And they're simple. There in fact doesn't need to be more than one, because the bootloader can be unlocked and one is all there will ever need to be, because of this. It's as easy as flashing recovery and flashing root through recovery. That's it. My tool just automates that process. Why use something untested when we already have one that will always work, without fail?
Also this thread is about sim unlocking, not rooting. S-off is not root and we don't have s-off capabilities yet. Back on track.
Hello, so I've been trying for a while to unlock my bootloader and at this point I'm quite confused. For whatever reason the power button + volume down combo nation does not load my phone into the bootloader from the off state. Instead it boots my phone regularly. This itself is is not a problem because I can boot it into the bootloader using adb. But inside the bootloader I can move up and down using the list but can't use my power button to select anything. I've also tried booting into recovery and the volume and the power button to choose works fine. I'm just confused at this point and a little frustrated because all I would like to do is install paranoid android, and have not had any problems with past devices. Any help would be appreciated! Thank you.
That is some strange behavior, I agree.
Its been a long while since I unlocked the bootloader, so I don't completely remember what is required. I assume you need to use the vol and/or power buttons to select to unlock; and that is your main problem?
If so, that is a tough one. One thought is to RUU to stock, to eliminate the possibility of some software glitch causing your problem.
Otherwise, plan B is to use sunshine to s-off, than unlock the bootloader. Not sure if that would work, and its an expensive experiment to try ($25). But if it does work, s-off is a nice thing to have. Not expressly needed to flash ROMs, of course. But s-off does allow some other nice tricks, like being able to flash radios, modified hboots, change CID/MID, and removed the requirement to relock the bootloader to RUU.
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That is some strange behavior, I agree.
Its been a long while since I unlocked the bootloader, so I don't completely remember what is required. I assume you need to use the vol and/or power buttons to select to unlock; and that is your main problem?
If so, that is a tough one. One thought is to RUU to stock, to eliminate the possibility of some software glitch causing your problem.
Otherwise, plan B is to use sunshine to s-off, than unlock the bootloader. Not sure if that would work, and its an expensive experiment to try ($25). But if it does work, s-off is a nice thing to have. Not expressly needed to flash ROMs, of course. But s-off does allow some other nice tricks, like being able to flash radios, modified hboots, change CID/MID, and removed the requirement to relock the bootloader to RUU.
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I think I've seen RUU before but for whatever reason I couldn't find it for my phone. Would it make any difference that the phone is AT&T, because from what I've seen people who have the AT&T smartphone tend to run into problems, just not mine.
EDIT: I just took a look at sunshine and am confused, is it an android app that does the s-off? Sorry for what I assume are common knowledge. Looking at sunshine, running 5.1.1 it looks like I need to have to bootloader unlocked to root the phone.
Jkaspar said:
I think I've seen RUU before but for whatever reason I couldn't find it for my phone.
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All AT&T RUUs are linked on my Index thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751432
Be aware that you can only run the RUU version same or higher than what is on the phone (no "downgrading" unless you have s-off).
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Would it make any difference that the phone is AT&T, because from what I've seen people who have the AT&T smartphone tend to run into problems, just not mine.
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There isn't any reason why ATT would be any harder to bootloader unlock than any other version M8, if that is what you mean.
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EDIT: I just took a look at sunshine and am confused, is it an android app that does the s-off? Sorry for what I assume are common knowledge. Looking at sunshine, running 5.1.1 it looks like I need to have to bootloader unlocked to root the phone.
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Yes, sunshine is an app that will s-off the phone, and then also has the option to unlock the bootloader without HTCDev.com (which is fairly trivial once s-off, think it can also by done via adb commands).
Latest Android version for the ATT M8 is 5.0 (.1 or .2, I can't remember exactly).
I'm not sure which versions will work with sunshine without prior root. But you can always install the sunshine app, and it will tell you whether it can s-off or not (and you won't be charged any $ unless it can s-off).
If you do need root before sunshine, some folks have had luck with towelroot (might be temp root, I can't recall). But yes, it complicates what is already just an idea, and not a sure fix by any means.
Sunshine from what I just tried requires root to be installed for the current android I am on. I also just tried using towelroot and it said that my phone was not supported. I am currently in school but I will try the RUU when I get a chance.
Okay so I did the RUU and it worked fine. Booted into the boot loader and nada. Still no luck with the power button. Choosing in recovery still works however. Is there a way to do it purely using adb commands?
You have to unlock with fastboot commands
Like to the screen where it gives me an option to either unlock the bootloader or not? I can get there fine, I just can't choose the yes I want to unlock option.
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Like to the screen where it gives me an option to either unlock the bootloader or not? I can get there fine, I just can't choose the yes I want to unlock option.
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No, that requires button response from the phone
Right which is my main problem