Let's face it, the Galaxy S3 has a SWEET camera, only rivaled by the One X and iPhone 5. From what I understand, this has a lot to do with the software Samsung has in place to control the camera. Similarly, this is why many people have complained about the Nexus cameras. Google hasn't exactly invested too much time in the camera software.
I would like to install a custom ROM, but I am concerned that in doing so, the camera will be adversely affected because I would lose Samsung's camera software. Is this the case? Or are there any custom ROMs that utilize Samsung's camera software?
Most of the custom stock based roms are just that Samsung based .
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JJEgan said:
Most of the custom stock based roms are just that Samsung based .
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Excellent! So, I've been looking at the Android Revolution HD 16.0 ROM. I'd like to know what people's opinion is regarding this ROM.
Reading the thread might be a better idea I used it like 2 months ago (v11 if I recall correctly) and it was excellent. Might have improved since then, so reading the thread will give you more info, feedback, etc.
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Just purchase Camera Zoom FX in the market you can't go wrong
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So, I'm thinking about rooting and installing a custom rom on my European Samsung Galaxy S II. But I've had some previous experiences regarding custom roms on my HTC Desire, whereas the quality of the still pictures and video recordings shot with the camera was drastically decreased. Still pictures looked horrible, and it was not possible to record video in 720 due to a huge amount of lag and stutter. This was the case with the three roms I flashed the HTC Desire with.
I'm not really educated on this subject, so I hope you guys can give me some information.
Will installing a custom rom affect the quality of still pictures/video recordings?
If so, what is the reason for this?
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Will installing a custom rom affect the quality of still pictures/video recordings?
If so, what is the reason for this?
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That doesn't happen on samsung phones at all, must be an htc thing.
If you care that much about camera quality, stick with Touchwiz ROMs. Flashing CM7 or MIUI will decrease the picture and video quality as they use AOSP apps which are worse than Samsung ones.
If you install a custom Samsung rom you should be fine but if you install cm7 or miui I've noticed the quality ain't as high
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Okay, thanks. What is the reason for the decrease of quality?
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Okay, thanks. What is the reason for the decrease of quality?
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I've used both cm7 and miui and both cameras are noticeably poorer than stock. I may be wrong but may be due to drivers or something as they are aosp based roms. But don't go by my word on reasoning. The pictures look fine on the phone but once you view them on a bigger screen you see the differences in quality.
When I get time I want to test various camera apps and compare them to stock using same conditions, don't think we have a thread like that.
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Yeah, okay. I've been looking for threads like that, but I haven't found any. If you decide to go through with it, send me a PM with a link to the thread
Hi Guys, sorry if it has been asked before, but i searched and couldn't find an answer i was looking for.
I want to try the new AOSP 4.1.1 jelly bean rom on my GS3 but don't want to loose any of the features that the GS3 is known for. for me the camera i cannot loose because i must take around 200 photos a day. I used to run paranoid android on my GS2 and i loved what it had to offer so i am familiar with that type of rom, i tried that rom on my GS3 when i got it and was dissapointed to find out that none of the GS3 features were available.
The answer i am seeking really, is that im probably going to loose certain features like camera etc, am i likely able to install the sammy camera onto the AOSP installed rom to keep the features i use all the time?
im guessing im probably better off waiting for an official update?!?!
cheers in advance guys.
Hi,
You won't have the sammy camera on aosp roms and as far as I know it is not available since its based on touchwiz..
If you just want the aosp look then I would install a different launcher like apex launcher.
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AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project and their SDK are backbone for all other Android firmware. Samsung firmware have proprietary software that will not be included. Just install a different rom that retain the Samsung apps.
But we could "fill" the gaps with some other software. For example, Moboplayer now is able to "float" a video around while you are reading twitter.
For those of us who want Samsung's features without Touchwiz thread like this could help.
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Yes, but he is especially referring to the camera app, which you will not have on an aosp rom
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Ok. It could be useful if he tell us what are the features he miss from Samsung camera app.
For example, burst mode.... Camera Zoom FX has burst mode, voice control.... I speak about Camera Zoom, just because i have it
Hi, thanks for you replies guys, i tried the latest paranoid android jelly bean version, ( purely because ive used it before on galaxy s2) and love everything about it apart from the slow camera. I was hoping that the camera would be better on this rom but its still slow, ( i take pictures of my 2 year old son and he moves too quickly so his face is always blurred) so i think i will have to revert back to the official sammy rom.
does anyone know of a way to port the camera app from the sammy based roms?
also if i do go back to the sammy rom, does anyone know if i can install the aosp version of exchange mail?
The sammy version looks so ugly and I kinda got used to the AOSP version when running that on gs2, the sammy one is too dark.
anyway, Ill probably just wait for the official update and see how that goes. I just like certain features from both versions of android. shame i cannot have a multiboot option.lol
cheers.
Paul.
Hi guys,
can you help me understanding the main pros/cons for going with Samsung JB or an AOSP rom on the Galaxy S3?
I've tried searching the forum but without luck, anyone got a thread link where this is covered?
My first Samsung (S3) phone is on its way by mail, and I'm trying to decide which type of rom to choose.
Off course I see the obvious stuff like:
Open vs Closed source
Stock vs Custom UI
But, except for the above; why should I choose an optimized (de-odexed, de-bloated etc. etc.) Samsung JB rom over an AOSP rom?
From what I can understand custom kernels also exists for both rom types, so that wouldn't be an argument right?
I'm not familiar with the current HW support in AOSP rom's for the S3. Generally this has been where roms for my HTC phones have differed in the past. What's the status with the S3, do AOSP support most of the stuff or is there still some way to go?
Please shed some light for me :fingers-crossed:
And please don't compare specific rom's against each others. I'm trying to understand this at higher level, I will off course test several rom's and make up my own mind about what specific rom release is best suited for me.
Samsung roms will have all the things mentioned in the ads such as direct call, smart stay, multi window etc. Aosp won't have these as they are samsungs additions. Samsung will have touchwiz launcher as default, which comes with a lot of samsung only widgets. Aosp will have vanilla launcher (with some extra functions and tweaks).
Sammy roms generally have better camera than aosp. Aosp is considered to have better battery usage although I can't really tell from my experience of using both types.
Deodexed means it's easier to develop themes for, as the external odex files are repackaged into the apks directly. But it will take a while longer when booting, as odex files are meant to speed up this process. As for the actual usage, not much difference.
Debloated means getting rid of bloatware that come with your phone, sich as chaton, google talk etc. There will be quite a lot of apps that you don't use but will be present and wasting your phone resources. Debloating is done by some developers but you can do most of ot yourself as long as you're rooted.
Hope this clears things. But these are all general, as you wished it to be. Some aosp will have different launcher options etc, so will sammy roms. As for what you go with, I'll leave it up to you.
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Thanks a lot xcly, this clears up some stuff for me
You say that Sammy roms have better camera, what about the rest of the HW support on AOSP? The rest of the stuff (GPS, Accel, Gyro etc.) works ok?
From what I can gather from your post (and reading around) the choice boils down to two main points for me
HW support
Kernel (stability and performance, ofwhich battery performance is derived)
I don't care much for the 'Samsung features' (direct call, smart stay, multi window etc.) and the launcher can always be customized.
Additionally my previous experience is that the continious devlopment done on AOSP (with nightlies etc.) gives a nice feeling of continous improvement that you miss from manufacturer roms. For manufacturer roms you're relying on manufacturer relase schedules and leaks. But off course, one can argue that there is continous development through hacking, back-porting and kernel improvements for these roms as well..
Ultimately I think Ill just have to try out the most popular roms of both types before I'm able to decide what type I go with as a daily driver.
As for kernels most of then support both aosp and sammy so don't worry about it too much. Gps wifi and the lot work well on both as well.
Samsung didn't release any source code for its processor so aosp roms can never realise the full potential. Never had any trouble using aosp so I wouldn't say there is a huge difference, but I guess some advanced users will miss the hw side of things..
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Simple to say
TouchWiz UI and pure Android UI.
Other things basically are very similar
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Haha nice. All my words in a single sentence
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Here is some personal feeling about them.
As you can see from my signature that I had Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus before, and after I lost my GNex, I tried to buy a Nexus 4, but it kinda like mission impossible as it's serious outta supply, so I was forced to make compromise and go with Galaxy S III, which is very nice phone through some thing I don't like such as hardware button and soft key (because GNex uses virtual button on screen which is completely customizable ).
I have been using AOSP ROM for over a year (well, it's outta options actually as they are Google's sons but Samsung didn't make a ROM for them even they are manufactured by Samsung , and 3 month with Sammy ROM.
Even I got my S3, the first thing I have done is flash AOSP ROM and get my feeling about GNex back, but unfortunately due to some reasons, I couldn't make it become GNex-like and realize it is something fool, so I tried Sammy stock ROM.
My first feeling about it is a little prettier than AOSP ( through there's countless themes for AOSP, I am just talking about default theme ) and some Sammy features are very interesting and attractive. (IMHO, I'd say it is more user-friendly to users ) which is why I decided to stay with it , but after all these times, I didn't actually use these features much except multi windows and slide to dial...
OK, sorry for my non sense words and my bad English just can exactly express what I trying to say...
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FoxHound rom is all you need.
crDroid is the most stable Sammy Tom out there with the option of having an AOSP theme & not installing all the bloatware that Samsung Roms are notorious for.
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A quick follow up question
Just a quick follow up question regarding HW support:
Whats the status for AOSP roms regarding MHL, does it work?
I recently saw a video where a guy paired his phone with a PS3 controller and played games on his HD TV. Would this possible on non-Sammy roms?
Can't help you much on that. Never tried mhl on my s3, aosp or otherwise. You're better off asking/searching in cm thread. If it works on cm, it'd probably work on other aosp roms too.
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Just a quick follow up question regarding HW support:
Whats the status for AOSP roms regarding MHL, does it work?
I recently saw a video where a guy paired his phone with a PS3 controller and played games on his HD TV. Would this possible on non-Sammy roms?
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You need to read the relevant rom threads or logically ask in those threads .
jje
I have been using CM based ROMs for a year, but now I am curious about the Samsung based ROMs (Rooted, deodexed, without bloatware and such) I have read the FAQ thread, but it does not offer me a proper explanation about the differences between CM and Samsung. Only that Samsung ROMs are "smoother". So I am asking in this thread for a wider explanation and to solve some questions I have:
-Why are there more Samsung ROMs than AOSP? Sure that the CM ROMs get more updated, and that people here love open sourcing, but I am curious about this fact.
-Are AOSP ROMs more suited for a "liberated" device? Samsung has closed the hardware sources of the GS3, and thats why the AOSP devs can not release a full working AOSP ROM. At least until Samsung decides to release the sources...
-Also, the Samsung based development is depending on the official updates provided by Samsung right? So the day Samsung drops the service, should we use AOSP instead?
-What is the cuality of a Samsung based ROM? Its much better that the official Touchwiz ROM?
-Its true that the Samsung ROMs have a much better sound than the CM ROMs, or it is vice versa? I am quite an audiophile, so this point interests me.
Lastly, I would like that you could solve me a question. One day, I changed from a CM10.1 ROM to a custom 4.1.2. When I did this, I could not use the Google Backup on my apps, and, for example, I could not recover the Whatsapp conversations. Moreover, I could not access to the SD card through the File Explorer in that ROM. So, is this a common compatibility problem between AOPS and Touchwiz or it is more of a ROM issue?
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-Why are there more Samsung ROMs than AOSP? Sure that the CM ROMs get more updated, and that people here love open sourcing, but I am curious about this fact.
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They're easy to create, plenty of updated versions from samsung and a lot of people prefer them
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-Are AOSP ROMs more suited for a "liberated" device? Samsung has closed the hardware sources of the GS3, and thats why the AOSP devs can not release a full working AOSP ROM. At least until Samsung decides to release the sources...
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Question doesn't make sense. IMHO, there are more useful and configurable settings in aosp. Downfall of closed sources are camera quality and possibly battery life
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-Also, the Samsung based development is depending on the official updates provided by Samsung right? So the day Samsung drops the service, should we use AOSP instead?
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Yes we need rom bases and kernel source code from samsung. Once samsung drop kernel source for the s3, aosp development will slow down considerably
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-What is the cuality of a Samsung based ROM? Its much better that the official Touchwiz ROM?
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What? If you mean quality,.its much the same with some tweaks to enhance performance, user experience etc. If you're rooted and not using a samsung based custom rom, you're missing out
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-Its true that the Samsung ROMs have a much better sound than the CM ROMs, or it is vice versa? I am quite an audiophile, so this point interests me.
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Apparently but I've not noticed a difference. I listen to a lot of music and am completely satisfied. That said, if there is a difference - it would be understandable
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Lastly, I would like that you could solve me a question. One day, I changed from a CM10.1 ROM to a custom 4.1.2. When I did this, I could not use the Google Backup on my apps, and, for example, I could not recover the Whatsapp conversations. Moreover, I could not access to the SD card through the File Explorer in that ROM. So, is this a common compatibility problem between AOPS and Touchwiz or it is more of a ROM issue?
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This is an android 4.2 thing. Follow link in my signature to sticky roll-up. I wrote a thread about 4.2 sdcard data you should read
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Top and bottom is its users choice . With a nandroid it takes a short time to test .
Personally i cannot stand AOKP/AOSP .
Sound you have got to give this a try IRS open up a whole new world of sound outputs .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191223
A long time ago when I still had this phone, camera quality sucked when using non-Samsung based custom ROMs. Has this been changed now? If it has, I'm gonna update my mom's SGS2 to a new ROM in order to take advantage of Android 4.3 and all its features and glory.
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A long time ago when I still had this phone, camera quality sucked when using non-Samsung based custom ROMs. Has this been changed now? If it has, I'm gonna update my mom's SGS2 to a new ROM in order to take advantage of Android 4.3 and all its features and glory.
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Well this you have to check by flashing the roms.
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Well this you have to check by flashing the roms.
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Ain't nobody got time for that!
But I'm serious... Has it improved? I remember it was pretty bad back then because the source code was never released, so developers were reverse engineering the camera.
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There is definetly a difference between sammy / non sammy roms, especially when you take low light pictures or when you use flash.
Samsung Camera Quality is the best! It's the clearest!
I'll have to agree. I actually feel a loss of quality (may be placebo) when using non Samsung roms.
The camera of the S2 is excellent, it still awes me.