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Does anyone else's sgs2 have a noticeable gap between the touchscreen glass and the aluminum bezel? Mine has a very noticeable one on the entire left side and bottom. The top and right sides are flush with the bezel. It looks like the glass wasn't cut to spec.
I want to get an idea of how widespread this is. Best buy didn't want to exchange it, and I could probably live with it if I can find a way to keep the dust out.
this is the first of this problem that I've heard. My bezel is flush against the glass. Pesonally, I wouldn't live with it. I would try to exchange it. Even if that means calling AT&T directly.
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Does anyone else's sgs2 have a noticeable gap between the touchscreen glass and the aluminum bezel? Mine has a very noticeable one on the entire left side and bottom. The top and right sides are flush with the bezel. It looks like the glass wasn't cut to spec.
I want to get an idea of how widespread this is. Best buy didn't want to exchange it, and I could probably live with it if I can find a way to keep the dust out.
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Mine is flush... If you have a moment, please stop in at any AT&T store and see the unit(s) on the display rack mine and my two colleagues here at work have their unit's GLASS flush with Bezel... No visible nor noticable gap...
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Does anyone else's sgs2 have a noticeable gap between the touchscreen glass and the aluminum bezel? Mine has a very noticeable one on the entire left side and bottom. The top and right sides are flush with the bezel. It looks like the glass wasn't cut to spec.
I want to get an idea of how widespread this is. Best buy didn't want to exchange it, and I could probably live with it if I can find a way to keep the dust out.
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Mine isn't uniform all the way around. The gap at the top of my phone increases going from left to right, looking at the phone.
It's a small difference, but I do see it capturing dust in the short time I've had it, about 3 weeks.
Thanks for the quick replies. I'm a little hesitant on exchanging because there is always the risk of getting a phone with even more defects.
But at least now I know it's not normal so I don't feel bad when trying to persuade Best buy to let me exchange.
Mine seems flush. If it isnt that much of a hassle would you post a picture of the gap? Im really interested to see it lol.
NascarFastcar said:
Mine seems flush. If it isnt that much of a hassle would you post a picture of the gap? Im really interested to see it lol.
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Same here on my end.
Attached are pictures of my bezel-to-glass gap. As you can see, it's collecting a lot of dust in the 3 weeks I've had it. And this is with a case too.
I'm about to head out to Best Buy. Wish me luck!
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Attached are pictures of my bezel-to-glass gap. As you can see, it's collecting a lot of dust in the 3 weeks I've had it. And this is with a case too.
I'm about to head out to Best Buy. Wish me luck!
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Good luck!!!
No luck. They wouldn't let me exchange because it was functionally okay. Oh well, at least I tried.
At this point I can live with it. The Atrix had many more build quality issues than this phone anyways.
elhippo said:
No luck. They wouldn't let me exchange because it was functionally okay. Oh well, at least I tried.
At this point I can live with it. The Atrix had many more build quality issues than this phone anyways.
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Seeing as you're within your 30 day return policy, why don't you just return it then rebuy it? bit of a pain in the ass but might be worth it if it bothers you enough.
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avengeryarr said:
Seeing as you're within your 30 day return policy, why don't you just return it then rebuy it? bit of a pain in the ass but might be worth it if it bothers you enough.
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if it bothers him he just said it's collecting dust
Check in the i9100 threads for this issue and see if they found HOW TO RETURN IT. I know I read the same issues in there a long time ago.
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elhippo said:
Does anyone else's sgs2 have a noticeable gap between the touchscreen glass and the aluminum bezel? Mine has a very noticeable one on the entire left side and bottom. The top and right sides are flush with the bezel. It looks like the glass wasn't cut to spec.
I want to get an idea of how widespread this is. Best buy didn't want to exchange it, and I could probably live with it if I can find a way to keep the dust out.
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One of my many Infuses had this. It was horrific. The AT&T manager gave me hell and claimed he couldn't see it but I pressed and he eventually caved and exchanged it for me.
Hell take it right to samsung, I would bring it right to them if no one else gives a replacement.
There are several issues. The one most people notice is that by design there is a 1 mm gap between the screen and the bezel. This was designed this way as with many phones because the screen expands and contracts in the heat, so there has to be a little play for it to move. It's normal. Some phones it's more noticeable, and the material they use seems to collect dust a bit more than other phones. I have 2 SGSII ATT versions and 1 SGSII International and all 3 seem to be dust magnets above the earpiece and on the left and right sides in the 1mm gap.
This is completely normal though. If you want a phone without a bezel, get an iPhone, hehe
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No luck. They wouldn't let me exchange because it was functionally okay. Oh well, at least I tried.
At this point I can live with it. The Atrix had many more build quality issues than this phone anyways.
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Sorry to hear that mate
Mines is exact same way...I've noticed the dust build up and I tried to deal with it thinking it was a flaw on all the devices...now u got me peekin out of it every few mins
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Don't use that as an excuse.. If they wont take it back Samsung will.. Just call the Samsung 800 number and get a RMA - explain there is a problem in the case integrity, If they say NO, then you have a free shot when it does screw up for any reason. Just make themPUT IT IN WRITING in an email and explain why they are denying the RMA. Once in writing, you have them by the ... if anything does happen to the display at all..
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Don't use that as an excuse.. If they wont take it back Samsung will.. Just call the Samsung 800 number and get a RMA - explain there is a problem in the case integrity, If they say NO, then you have a free shot when it does screw up for any reason. Just make themPUT IT IN WRITING in an email and explain why they are denying the RMA. Once in writing, you have them by the ... if anything does happen to the display at all..
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Hehe so aggressive... its such a small issue and they all have the issue, some people just exaggerate the seriousness.
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Does anybody think the note will have problems with build quality? I have already pre ordered one and I am having second thoughts now. I keep feeling like that flimsy battery door will be a "squeaker". Other than this concern I am very excited to receive mine!
it will likely fall apart minutes after you receive it. i hereby offer $200 via Paypal to keep you from that tragedy.
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it will likely fall apart minutes after you receive it. i hereby offer $200 via Paypal to keep you from that tragedy.
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I'll give $200 + shipping.
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Does anybody think the note will have problems with build quality? I have already pre ordered one and I am having second thoughts now. I keep feeling like that flimsy battery door will be a "squeaker". Other than this concern I am very excited to receive mine!
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I don't think it will be an issue at all. All samsung phones as of late have the same flimsy plastic snap on back, and it's not an issue at all on my infuse. I think it's smart engineering, as somehow they keep a rock solid device while making it super thin and super light, all with plastic. I literally have to wrench on my phone to get the slightest squeak out of it.
I really dislike when every youtube review of any samsung phone complains about the battery cover, because it really isn't an issue.
Almost same like the Galaxy s2. Samsung phones dont have very good build quality
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I don't think it will be an issue at all. All samsung phones as of late have the same flimsy plastic snap on back, and it's not an issue at all on my infuse. I think it's smart engineering, as somehow they keep a rock solid device while making it super thin and super light, all with plastic. I literally have to wrench on my phone to get the slightest squeak out of it.
I really dislike when every youtube review of any samsung phone complains about the battery cover, because it really isn't an issue.
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The main reason this concerns me is because I had an htc amaze and it squeaked terribly. Thanks for the reply, you seem to know your stuff.
Back cover is thin and light but does not squeal.
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dipyamanabiswas07 said:
Almost same like the Galaxy s2. Samsung phones dont have very good build quality
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Wow your an idiot!! Samsung has pretty much the best build quality for smartphones and TV's on the market right now. Just YouTube drop tests to see for yourself.. If Samsung is such poor quality then why does every other smartphone company buy parts from them, displays especially?? Everytime you see a phone with a Super AMOLED it was made by Samsung.
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Wow your an idiot!! Samsung has pretty much the best build quality for smartphones and TV's on the market right. Just YouTube drop tests to see for yourself.. If Samsung is such poor quality then why does every other smartphone company buy parts from them, displays especially. Everytime you see a phone wit a Super AMOLED it was made by Samsung.
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Your argument doesn't really make any sense. First off, I can't imagine what TVs have to do with this. Yes, Samsung is one of the largest display manufacturers. Yes, they manufacture panels for other smartphone vendors. Yes, they make a lot of very good TVs too. None of this is related to build quality of smartphones.
Build quality can mean a lot of things, but the way I think of it is "how durable the phone looks and feels." Success at drop tests is certainly a part of it, but imo it's a pretty small part. Some people find that the light, plastic-y feel of Samsung phones seems cheap to them, especially when compared with, say, HTC phones, which tend to use aluminum unibodies. Some people worry that the back covers are fragile because they are thin and bend easily. There are any number of other little concerns that people roll into "build quality" too; part of the reason people tend to disagree so much is that it's a very broad term that covers a lot of aspects of a phone.
I personally don't think that Samsung build quality is poor; I've had several Samsung phones and have never had issues with squeaking of with parts breaking, and I am not convinced that it is statistically more likely for a plastic Samsung phone to break than a metal HTC one, and they are definitely less prone to damage than a glass iPhone. I can understand why some people prefer a heavier, metal or glass phone, but for me, I'm happier with the way Samsung's plastic construction makes their phones thinner and lighter. There are tradeoffs associated with pretty much all design decisions, and I generally feel that Samsung has made good ones.
corey_r said:
The main reason this concerns me is because I had an htc amaze and it squeaked terribly. Thanks for the reply, you seem to know your stuff.
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Thanks for the thanks, haha. I really can't be 100% positive about the note, seeing as I have not held one, but based on the recent track record of samsung, plastic phones can be just as solid as something made of metal. And the plastic definitely gives me peace of mind, as when my phone hits the ground, I know the plastic will absorb much more of the energy than metal will, making it less likely that my screen will shatter. This is most likely why samsung kicks ass in drop tests.
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Almost same like the Galaxy s2. Samsung phones dont have very good build quality
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I respectfully disagree. Just because it isn't made of metal, doesn't mean it doesn't have good build quality. With the combination of gorilla glass and the polycarbonate that samsung uses for their phones, I would say that in my honest opinion, they make some of the best phones out there. Not to mention the beautiful samoled displays that they use; i will never own another phone without a samoled screen. Yes, an iPhone 4 has very attractive design attributes, but for a device that I am carrying day in and day out, samsung has a better design to me. When is the last time you saw somebody without a case on their iphone? I run my infuse with no case because I can, and the fit and finish is every bit as nice.
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Wow your an idiot!! Samsung has pretty much the best build quality for smartphones and TV's on the market right now. Just YouTube drop tests to see for yourself.. If Samsung is such poor quality then why does every other smartphone company buy parts from them, displays especially?? Everytime you see a phone with a Super AMOLED it was made by Samsung.
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Please be respectful, no need to put down others, that's just their opinion. I agree with your reasoning, just not your tactics. Good point with the drop tests though, I forgot how dominant samsung is in those.
The build quality of Samsung phones are far superior to any other smart phones I've used it owned. People assume that plastic is cheap. The back of the note is high grade plastic... Keeps the phone light and won't break. Also, samsungs perform wonderfully in drop tests. To me that says quality build.
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Your argument doesn't really make any sense. First off, I can't imagine what TVs have to do with this. Yes, Samsung is one of the largest display manufacturers. Yes, they manufacture panels for other smartphone vendors. Yes, they make a lot of very good TVs too. None of this is related to build quality of smartphones.
Build quality can mean a lot of things, but the way I think of it is "how durable the phone looks and feels." Success at drop tests is certainly a part of it, but imo it's a pretty small part. Some people find that the light, plastic-y feel of Samsung phones seems cheap to them, especially when compared with, say, HTC phones, which tend to use aluminum unibodies. Some people worry that the back covers are fragile because they are thin and bend easily. There are any number of other little concerns that people roll into "build quality" too; part of the reason people tend to disagree so much is that it's a very broad term that covers a lot of aspects of a phone.
I personally don't think that Samsung build quality is poor; I've had several Samsung phones and have never had issues with squeaking of with parts breaking, and I am not convinced that it is statistically more likely for a plastic Samsung phone to break than a metal HTC one, and they are definitely less prone to damage than a glass iPhone. I can understand why some people prefer a heavier, metal or glass phone, but for me, I'm happier with the way Samsung's plastic construction makes their phones thinner and lighter. There are tradeoffs associated with pretty much all design decisions, and I generally feel that Samsung has made good ones.
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Sorry that was a quick emotional response. I just get mad when people just assume the light plastic of Samsung is poor. I've seen a lot of iPhones and HTC's break or have the screen crack from not very high drops.
I've dropped my infuse a couple of times with just a body glove case and it still looks like new. I think the extra weight of HTC's metal body makes the screen crack easier.
I like how the back cover is so thin that some cases for the note require you to remove that thin back cover all together as the case acts like the back cover. I think it was one that has a flip cover.
if the back cover was a more solid metal, then ppl would complain the Note is too heavy.
it is plastic for obviously a good reason i'd say.
There's nothing wrong with plastic. And there's no squeaks, I own the International version.
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Do you guys think that since it has a larger display it will be easier for the screen to crack in the unfortunate event of a drop? Also, will the note have gorilla glass? I have seen another thread posted about this topic but could not find any official answers. Thanks to everyone for all your opinions and info!
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Do you guys think that since it has a larger display it will be easier for the screen to crack in the unfortunate event of a drop? Also, will the note have gorilla glass? I have seen another thread posted about this topic but could not find any official answers. Thanks to everyone for all your opinions and info!
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Yes it has gorilla glass.
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Does anybody think the note will have problems with build quality? I have already pre ordered one and I am having second thoughts now. I keep feeling like that flimsy battery door will be a "squeaker". Other than this concern I am very excited to receive mine!
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The phone isn't even out yet. Do you see anyone complaining about the international note?
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The phone isn't even out yet. Do you see anyone complaining about the international note?
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Only about the screen, but nothing of build quality.
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Some people find that the light, plastic-y feel of Samsung phones seems cheap to them, especially when compared with, say, HTC phones, which tend to use aluminum unibodies.
^^I have always thought the Samsung phones felt fragile compaired to HTC's
A few people at reddit are reporting that the glass visor on the back of the 6P (on the camera hump) has spontaneously shattered on their phones. The phone was sitting on a table, not being used, and the glass suddenly just cracked.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3rwc6p/nexus_6p_back_glass_window_has_just_spontaneously/
This recalls the days when people reported similar experiences with the glass back on the Nexus 4. Some at the time speculated it had to do with heat differentials that the glass back of the Nexus 4 could not handle.
In the case of the 6P, some people in the thread say that the glass visor on the back of the phone directly abuts the surrounding metal, without the sort of plastic buffer ring that usually separates screens from a metal chassis. This means there is no protection for the glass visor from sheer forces (against the edge of the glass, rather than the face of the glass). Apparently Gorilla Glass is designed to take direct impact to the surface of the glass, at the cost of being less resistant to sheer forces. Others in the reddit thread also suggest that the metal body expanding at a different rate, due to temperature differentials, could produce the necessary sheer force to shatter the glass visor.
Anyone here experiencing problems with the glass visor shattering?
cb474 said:
A few people at reddit are reporting that the glass visor on the back of the 6P (on the camera hump) has spontaneously shattered on their phones. The phone was sitting on a table, not being used, and the glass suddenly just cracked.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3rwc6p/nexus_6p_back_glass_window_has_just_spontaneously/
This recalls the days when people reported similar experiences with the glass back on the Nexus 4. Some at the time speculated it had to do with heat differentials that the glass back of the Nexus 4 could not handle.
In the case of the 6P, some people in the thread say that the glass visor on the back of the phone directly abuts the surrounding metal, without the sort of plastic buffer ring that usually separates screens from a metal chassis. This means there is no protection for the glass visor from sheer forces (against the edge of the glass, rather than the face of the glass). Apparently Gorilla Glass is designed to take direct impact to the surface of the glass, at the cost of being less resistant to sheer forces. Others in the reddit thread also suggest that the metal body expanding at a different rate, due to temperature differentials, could produce the necessary sheer force to shatter the glass visor.
Anyone here experiencing problems with the glass visor shattering?
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Been posted already.
No issues here yet, also my Nexus 4 is still going strong without a case and no shattering either.
italia0101 said:
Been posted already.
No issues here yet, also my Nexus 4 is still going strong without a case and no shattering either.
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Oh, thanks, sorry to repost. I looked and couldn't find a thread. It will be interesting to see if this turns out to just be a few unlucky people or a more widespread issue.
[Edit: Since no one seems to be able to find the other thread or it may actually have been about something else--people dropping or bending their phones--I'm going to assume that this is in fact the only thread currently on the topic of the glass visor spontaneously cracking on it's own when the phone is not being touched or handled by the user at all.]
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Where is the original thread link? So we all discuss it there.
i say its a user error. I.E dropped, intentionally, or accidentally
enough with these posts gosh!! phone is rock solid!
Sounds like the kiddos in the other thread bending their phones being careless... just more people being careless. I have abused mine to an extent, wasn't able to bend any edges and certainly haven't broken the glass. I even dropped it hardwood already, no damage.
designgears said:
Sounds like the kiddos in the other thread bending their phones being careless... just more people being careless. I have abused mine to an extent, wasn't able to bend any edges and certainly haven't broken the glass. I even dropped it hardwood already, no damage.
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This is definitely not what happened with the people in the reddit thread. Their phones were sitting on a table, not being handled at all, and they suddenly heard cracking sounds and the glass cracked on its own. So some sort of flaw in the glass or stress from the metal body on the glass (or both) caused the cracking.
From the OP of the reddit thread (and a couple others there report similar experiences):
https://imgur.com/u2ILh24
Well that was a surprise. For me, and the cat. It was sat on a table next to me when I heard the glass snap, leaving a little snowfall of shavings on the table under it. It's now continuing to crack away to itself.
See: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3rwc6p/nexus_6p_back_glass_window_has_just_spontaneously/
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Anyone here at XDA experience this?
cb474 said:
This is definitely not what happened with the people in the reddit thread. Their phones were sitting on a table, not being handled at all, and they suddenly heard cracking sounds and the glass cracked on its own. So some sort of flaw in the glass or stress from the metal body on the glass (or both) caused the cracking.
From the OP of the reddit thread (and a couple others there report similar experiences):
Anyone here at XDA experience this?
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Sounds like people just want to make up BS just because they weren't careful with their phone
While I am an honest person, if I weren't and managed to break the glass on my phone, I might be inclined to claim spontaneous breakage to get it warrantied. Take this crap with a grain of salt. There are a lot of folks that would do and say just about anything to avoid forking out the cash to replace their phone themselves when they busted it.
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While I am an honest person, if I weren't and managed to break the glass on my phone, I might be inclined to claim spontaneous breakage to get it warrantied. Take this crap with a grain of salt. There are a lot of folks that would do and say just about anything to avoid forking out the cash to replace their phone themselves when they busted it.
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I could see this being the case. Drop straight onto the back considering visor is raised from rest of the device.
designgears said:
Sounds like the kiddos in the other thread bending their phones being careless... just more people being careless. I have abused mine to an extent, wasn't able to bend any edges and certainly haven't broken the glass. I even dropped it hardwood already, no damage.
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I fear that. The darn thing is so slippery. I ordered a intelliglass thing that I have on my N5 which works great and keeps the naked look. But I do moisturize my hands a lot these days.
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I fear that. The darn thing is so slippery. I ordered a intelliglass thing that I have on my N5 which works great and keeps the naked look. But I do moisturize my hands a lot these days.
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Haha! I'll give you that one.
I think that Nexus community is these days worse than Samsung or iphone fanboys. Anything that is pointed out of the device that there is fault is always said "shut up I love my N<3xus" While this 6P is clearly having major design flaws.
And this comes from a guy who has pre-ordered this phone and can't wait to get my hands on it but I don't want to close my eyes of those stupid design flaws.
So far what is it 2 or 3 cases of back visor smashed ....how many phones sold?......user error
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Sounds like people just want to make up BS just because they weren't careful with their phone
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While I am an honest person, if I weren't and managed to break the glass on my phone, I might be inclined to claim spontaneous breakage to get it warrantied. Take this crap with a grain of salt. There are a lot of folks that would do and say just about anything to avoid forking out the cash to replace their phone themselves when they busted it.
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We've already been down this road with the Nexus 4. People can put their head in the sand and refuse to believe it, but it is possible for glass parts on phones to break on their own, either due to temperature differentials or flaws in the overall design of the phone body (that puts stress on glass parts in ways they were not designed to handle). If you actually bother to read through the reddit thread, you can see there are a number of people knowledgeable about materials science explaining how this can happen.
In any case, it would be a dumb way to make up a story to try to get the phone replaced under warranty, precisely because people are inclined not to believe these stories and because people lack the sophistication to understand how glass can break in this way.
So, I don't doubt this really happened. Again if you bother to read the reddit thread, you can see the people involved seem credible.
The real question is: Will this turn out to be a fluke with a couple phones or is this going to be a more widespread problem?
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We've already been down this road with the Nexus 4.
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I remember loads of cases of back glass broken.
I had N4 for a year and then my gf had it. She is not as careful as me. Phone been dropped few times and no problems.
So I really hope its not a problem in here
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I think that Nexus community is these days worse than Samsung or iphone fanboys. Anything that is pointed out of the device that there is fault is always said "shut up I love my N<3xus" While this 6P is clearly having major design flaws.
And this comes from a guy who has pre-ordered this phone and can't wait to get my hands on it but I don't want to close my eyes of those stupid design flaws.
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3 or 4 glass issues over thousands of shipping
Yeah you are right... we should not act like fanboys,
it's clearly a design flaw spreading out all over the world !!
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I remember loads of cases of back glass broken.
I had N4 for a year and then my gf had it. She is not as careful as me. Phone been dropped few times and no problems.
So I really hope its not a problem in here
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Yes, just as there were many broken glass backs on the iPhone 4 and looking around a little it seems to be a pretty common problem with the Galaxy S6 and Note5. I have no doubt there will be many broken glass visors on the Nexus 6P, from people droppping it. I have been pretty lucky, with my Nexus 4; dropped it a couple times over the years, even on concrete, and no broken glass back; although I never took the original plastic covering off the back in the hopes that would protect it some.
But, just to emphasize the point, since most people are totally missing the point, what is being discussed in this thread is a design flaw in which the visor shatters on its own, not due to users dropping the phone. This could be due to rapid temperature differentials or to flaws in the way the glass visor abuts the aluminum body and is put under sheer stresses, for which the glass was not designed.
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3 or 4 glass issues over thousands of shipping
Yeah you are right... we should not act like fanboys,
it's clearly a design flaw spreading out all over the world !!
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Not that many people have the phone yet. Many people may also not be posting about the issue online. So your "3 or 4" out of thousands are pretty much just made up numbers. Three or four have been reported. There could be more out there. And not that many people have the phone yet. Once the shipping numbers are more in the millions, then will see how common it is.
In any case, whatever happens, it does not mean that it is not a stupid design decision to use extra glass (a fragile material) where it is not necessary. Especially when so many other phones have already demonstrated why this is a bad idea. Even if the spontaneous shattering visor issue turns out to only affect very few people, the fact will remain the 6P is more vulnerable to damage when dropped than necessary. Since people carry their phones everywhere and constantly take them in and out of their pockets, it's a device that should be designed with durability in mind. You can't prevent every accident, but you can minimize the damage they cause.
I wish Google had learned their lesson from the Nexus 4. Sure, a small glass visor is better than an entirely glass back like on the Nexus 4. But it's still unnecessary. I'll bet Samsung will not put a glass back on the Galaxy S7 or Note6, realizing that it was a bad idea like everyone else who's tried it. This will leave only Google with the dubious distinction of repeating the glass on the back of the phone mistake twice. Not only can Google not learn from others mistakes, they can't even learn from their own.
LG G5 painted in plastic coating?
Jerry rig everything video shows alot of proof.
Most of the professional reviewers are scared to speak the truth. Why? Are you scared of LG?
It is a die-cast aluminium body which then has the antennas placed on the outside (because the signals wouldn't get through the metal) there is then a primer to help the paint bond to the aluminium and cover up the antennas. They then use a microdised finish over the top which is effectively a metallic paint.
It's not plastic it's just not been machined and anodised. They were going for a different take on the metal body that could allow them to hide the antennas.
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It is a die-cast aluminium body which then has the antennas placed on the outside (because the signals wouldn't get through the metal) there is then a primer to help the paint bond to the aluminium and cover up the antennas. They then use a microdised finish over the top which is effectively a metallic paint.
It's not plastic it's just not been machined and anodised. They were going for a different take on the metal body that could allow them to hide the antennas.
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A diffrent take lol. That plastic coating pretty much negates the need of having metal in a phone. Just make it out plastic if ythats all ill feel when holding it !
Most concerning part is the display assembly. So thin that you can see the pressure points when you select something. Maybe i am to demanding idk, but all the different phones over the years i have never experienced such thing.
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A diffrent take lol. That plastic coating pretty much negates the need of having metal in a phone. Just make it out plastic if ythats all ill feel when holding it !
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You get the benefit of heat dissipation and rigidity/strength of the metal body instead of a plastic body.
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You get the benefit of heat dissipation and rigidity/strength of the metal body instead of a plastic body.
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im pretty sure no one complained about such thing with S5/G4 and earlier devices that used full plastic builds. You are delusional my friend, they are missleading consumers, & then coming out with some bs excuse, "we are doing it differently, we didnt want to do what everyone else is doing" !
I'm not delusional, people just seem to have got it stuck in their heads it is basically a full plastic build. There is plastic in every metal phone, just of varying degrees.
I've no issue with the way they have constructed the phone. If you don't like it then don't buy it.
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I'm not delusional, people just seem to have got it stuck in their heads it is basically a full plastic build. There is plastic in every metal phone, just of varying degrees.
I've no issue with the way they have constructed the phone. If you don't like it then don't buy it.
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i sure as hell won't buy it, i already bought the S7Edge, and it doesnt have any plastic, at least none that makes contact with my hands !
FalconFX said:
i sure as hell won't buy it, i already bought the S7Edge, and it doesnt have any plastic, at least none that makes contact with my hands !
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Great
So what you doing hanging around the G5 forum then? Bye troll.
alexp999 said:
Great
So what you doing hanging around the G5 forum then? Bye troll.
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i gotta see ppls experiences with the G5, its good to know how good the competition is doing this year , apparently there is none so far
I got the S7 Edge as well but was hanging around here to see if I liked the G5 as I still have one more jump until July with Tmobiles jump on demand.
Looks like I'll be waiting to see what the HTC 10 brings to the table.
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I'm not delusional, people just seem to have got it stuck in their heads it is basically a full plastic build. There is plastic in every metal phone, just of varying degrees.
I've no issue with the way they have constructed the phone. If you don't like it then don't buy it.
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I agree with you. Peoples' ignorance is funny to read on here lol.
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The truth is LG G5 is ugly phone compared to galaxy S7 edge. I even think HTC 10 will be better then LG G5.
Am sorry to say.
umbrokhan said:
The truth is LG G5 is ugly phone compared to galaxy S7 edge. I even think HTC 10 will be better then LG G5.
Am sorry to say.
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definetly, the chanfer might be too big, but still, they are fixing what was broken in previous gens, & there software is the top OEM skin out there, so yeah it will be a good competitor to the S7/Edge.
It's called paint people get over it, especially from your gs7s
trolls everywhere…
seriously… this device has not been shipped worldwide yet and people already start complaining about built quality. get a life.
i preordered my g5 including a free camera module and i'm proud of that decision so far.
all thats left is that they start shipping to germany.
I keep wanting to think that the GS7E is good lucking. Maybe it's just that I'm coming from the G3 but....it just seems too damn narrow! But to be honest, the biggest problem is that I can't play with the GS7E at any of the stores, they're all on demo mode...maybe I should go into another carrier's store where there's one I can actually demo. Can anyone tell me whether your carrier typically has its demo phones NOT on retail mode? I'm on sprint here (and still undecided between G5/GS7E/GS7).
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Ok thank you for reporting me. And thank you for calling me names and insulting me. Anything else you want to add?
Plus am not forcing you to read my comments. You choose to read them your self. So blame your self not me. You can click ignore button but still you want to read my comments.
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I per-ordered the G5 and got it Friday. I have had no issues with. This whole metal vs. plastic issue is a joke. Structurally speaking, this is great phone. They had to switch to the thin metal aluminum in the back because of the void between the back and the screen when you take out the battery. And when you do take the battery out, there's very little to no deflection.
I have an metal body iphone 5s for work and i hate it. This is so much better.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0
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Yeah am glad your happy with your new phone and you not insulting me like the other guy is.
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I'm not here to insult, just to inform on my experience thus far. However, i wish you wouldn't be commenting so negatively on this phone without using it for some considerable time. A 10 minute in-store demo use of the phone shouldn't count especially when you are looking for all the negatives. When i pick up a phone in the store i look for all the negatives first before the positives.
Like I said, the look and fell of this phone is great after 4 days of use. The main selling point for me was the removable battery and the camera. The battery seems like it's very easy to swap and the camera is superb. I took it to a show on Friday and the pictures where incredible especially in wide view. I'm sure the 7s takes better pictures, but i really like the wide angle.
I personally don't care for all the friends modules they're advertising.
Had i read your comments before i purchased the phone, i probably wouldn't have bought the phone. Let me know if you have any other questions and I'll be happy to answer.
I bought a Nexus hoping that this device will last me for years to come.
But I am having doubts that if it will last long without a cover.
I decided not to put a cover on the phone just to make the phone always look good and not be one of those people who are always scared of getting scratches on their phone. However, just after 1 month of usage, the phone is literally having marks and scratches everywhere on the phone (including the visor) except the screen.
Even my 5 and 4 year old Samsung Galaxy 3 and Note 1 which never had a cover either don't have these many scratches, even today.
Why you let me down Huawei?
Is putting a cover the only option I have got?
Hi there,
I have my 6P for 10 months now with case 100% of the time.
Does it help? No.
When I take out the phone, I can see small scratches and dents. This is because some dust particles get in from time to time. This way when the case and the phone move a little touching each other, the surface of the phone is scratched.
It is disappointing.
I have my note 3 which haven't been in a case and it's more than 3 years old now, and does not have so many marks in the back.
This trend to make devices all metal is the dummest thing ever. At least they can put on some coating on the metal or something. :/
This is by far the most fragile phone I've ever had.
I've had mine since Nov 9th 2015. It's been in a case and a tempered glass screen protector since then. Just took it out and it's still mint. No scratches or anything. I also got the graphite.
Agreed, fragile AF!!!! LOL bent two of them in pocket without even doing anything extreme and i dont even wear jeans i wear comfy chinos. LOL so yeah got replacements for those.
TBH i've never seen anyone able to keep their phone in pristine condition with no case. granted they're probably more careful. But AFAIK, the moment they drop it there goes the phone. personally, I'm clumsy enough to warrant a case so i invested in a good Spigen one (see signature) and promptly dropped it on rough tarmac a week into ownership. I'd say if i had no case on, I'd have lost this phone.
Regarding your scratches on your phone, yes. This is aluminum. It's a soft metal. What are you expecting? Have you seen a pristine no case iPhone? This isn't really a "fault". A little bit of adjusting of expectations is in order. I personally like the polycarbonate that I had on my HTC one X of old. Even Samsung's plastic doesn't hold as well against the strength of polycarbonate.
Okay maybe 6p is not the toughest phone around, but comparing it with old samsung devices made of plastic is plain stupid. Its fricking aluminium, soft metal, show me one metal phone without scratches, i can assure you, you cant.
Better to have marks than totally broken phone. I dont use or even have case and I have dropped mine a few times and its not bad. A few marks here on the edges and there and tempered glass has saved the screen once. I have noticed I have much better luck with screens being ok after drops with aluminum phones than I had with plastic ones that always got broken screen when dropped even from low height.
I agree is a bit sensitive, a little flower if you wanna go there.
But it's our responsibility to keep it safe knowing this. I also wanted to use mine naked as it looks better and lighter this way, but it's so prone to on falling and hitting on something that I won't take the chance.
You can get good looking cases as well, Spigen for example looks good and protects it good.
Yeah kills a bit the aspect and gets slightly heavier, but it adds to protection and it's worth it.
Occasionally remove it and clean it to dust it off particles that enter occasionally.
shuckeru said:
TBH i've never seen anyone able to keep their phone in pristine condition with no case. granted they're probably more careful. But AFAIK, the moment they drop it there goes the phone. personally, I'm clumsy enough to warrant a case so i invested in a good Spigen one (see signature) and promptly dropped it on rough tarmac a week into ownership. I'd say if i had no case on, I'd have lost this phone.
Regarding your scratches on your phone, yes. This is aluminum. It's a soft metal. What are you expecting? Have you seen a pristine no case iPhone? This isn't really a "fault". A little bit of adjusting of expectations is in order. I personally like the polycarbonate that I had on my HTC one X of old. Even Samsung's plastic doesn't hold as well against the strength of polycarbonate.
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True, but the old phones were quite sturdy, and by old I don't mean Nokia 3310, I mean Androids that came out till the 4.4 era.
Check out the photo of my attached I5800.
Not a single scratch on the screen, only the silver plating has come off.
[email protected] said:
True, but the old phones were quite sturdy, and by old I don't mean Nokia 3310, I mean Androids that came out till the 4.4 era.
Check out the photo of my attached I5800.
Not a single scratch on the screen, only the silver plating has come off.
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I dont agree. In the past I always had to change my screen once or phone was full of marks if I didnt cover phone in some kind of casing. Now I dont even bother using a case as the last time I broke a screen from a phone was with Note 2 that I dropped into a puddle on asphalt. For example I had really really bad luck with my M8 like slipping a couple of times and it flew many meters high and landed face down and nothing. A few tempered screens but nothing else than some cosmetic marks. I feel the newer are much much better built than the phones like SGS2, Galaxy Nexus, Desire series etc etc.
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True, but the old phones were quite sturdy, and by old I don't mean Nokia 3310, I mean Androids that came out till the 4.4 era.
Check out the photo of my attached I5800.
Not a single scratch on the screen, only the silver plating has come off.
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that silver plating that has come off is the equivalent to any scratches you find on the back of the phone from putting/taking out of your pockets. It's just normal wear and tear. We need to keep in mind the material strength of the metal/plastic/polycarbonate/glass. The 6p's screen uses Corning gorilla glass 4. That stuff is virtually unscratchable from normal use. Of course you're not going to find much scuffs there compared to its soft aluminum body.
[email protected] said:
True, but the old phones were quite sturdy, and by old I don't mean Nokia 3310, I mean Androids that came out till the 4.4 era.
Check out the photo of my attached I5800.
Not a single scratch on the screen, only the silver plating has come off.
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Wait a minute. I'm confused lol. You said the 6P is the most fragile phone you've ever used but now the damage or color loss in that pic is clearly worse. Not sure if trolling or...
shuckeru said:
that silver plating that has come off is the equivalent to any scratches you find on the back of the phone from putting/taking out of your pockets. It's just normal wear and tear. We need to keep in mind the material strength of the metal/plastic/polycarbonate/glass. The 6p's screen uses Corning gorilla glass 4. That stuff is virtually unscratchable from normal use. Of course you're not going to find much scuffs there compared to its soft aluminum body.
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I am not talking about the screen, that thing is literally unscratched.
The rest of the phone is pretty weak though.
RoyJ said:
Wait a minute. I'm confused lol. You said the 6P is the most fragile phone you've ever used but now the damage or color loss in that pic is clearly worse. Not sure if trolling or...
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Mate, that's a 5 year old phone.
This is a 1 month old phone.
Well as mentioned it is aluminum. By nature, it's a very soft metal. Think soda can. Obviously it isn't going to be indestructible like some older plastic phones you mentioned earlier. If you're looking for a tank of a phone, maybe you should have considered something else. Nexus line was never really meant to be "premium" and has always been cheaper than other highly marketed flagships. Like mentioned earlier, maybe managing expectations based on this info which has always been the case is in order. I get that you don't like it, so maybe your best bet is to sell and get another phone? I can't speak to the Nexus 6, but I've had my Nexus 5 since launch 2013 and it is still in mint condition. For that I only use the bumper case (wraps around the phone, doesn't cover the back) and still no small wear and tear scratches. Just one big one that I accidentally did with a razor blade.
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I am not talking about the screen, that thing is literally unscratched.
The rest of the phone is pretty weak though.
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It's no different from any other aluminum phone. you can't expect it to be as resistant as plastic... we've been trying to tell you this. I really am not sure what you are expecting an aluminum body to be.
RoyJ said:
Well as mentioned it is aluminum. By nature, it's a very soft metal. Think soda can. Obviously it isn't going to be indestructible like some older plastic phones you mentioned earlier. If you're looking for a tank of a phone, maybe you should have considered something else. Nexus line was never really meant to be "premium" and has always been cheaper than other highly marketed flagships. Like mentioned earlier, maybe managing expectations based on this info which has always been the case is in order. I get that you don't like it, so maybe your best bet is to sell and get another phone? I can't speak to the Nexus 6, but I've had my Nexus 5 since launch 2013 and it is still in mint condition. For that I only use the bumper case (wraps around the phone, doesn't cover the back) and still no small wear and tear scratches. Just one big one that I accidentally did with a razor blade.
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Yes, I get it now.
shuckeru said:
It's no different from any other aluminum phone. you can't expect it to be as resistant as plastic... we've been trying to tell you this. I really am not sure what you are expecting an aluminum body to be.
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Titanium.
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Titanium.
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Well in that case it would be exactly as expensive as other flagships. :silly:
Little heavier, too.
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Titanium.
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i would jump on that phone LOL
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Well in that case it would be exactly as expensive as other flagships. :silly:
Little heavier, too.
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Doesn't matter. **** will be the best phone ever.
shuckeru said:
i would jump on that phone LOL
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I would sell everything I have for it.
[email protected] said:
Doesn't matter. **** will be the best phone ever.
I would sell everything I have for it.
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You also have to take into account that Titanium isn't as effective as aluminum when it comes to heat transfer, so you'd have a warmer phone which would suffer from higher amounts of thermal throttling.