I'm very interested in purchasing this phone and camera/video is important to me. I see in other threads that the still photo quality can be improved through software but what about audio of recorded videos? Every YouTube sample video that I've seen you can barely hear the audio and it is very thin sounding. For those that have the phone, any comments on audio recorded through the video camera and how to improve it?
Phone seems awesome otherwise.
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Why do you want DNA if you care about camera/video 920-iPhone 5-preview are your best bet.
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They are not the most important thing. I'm not a fan of IOS or Windows phone. Looking for the overall best android package. Display, Reception, Performance, Camera, and others are all factors. I think I understand the limitations of the phone for the most part. Trying to characterize the video quality by getting input from owners.
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Dare I state the obvious? Get whichever 'phone you like as a 'phone, then go out and spend $100 on a dedicated point-and-shoot camera.
No matter how bad a point-and-shoot camera is, it'll still be better than the best mobile 'phone camera on the market today, for the simple fact that a tiny lens (used out of necessity in 'phones) will never be able to match the visual clarity of a proper lens.
I'll only ever use my 'phone camera for taking very crude snapshots to remind myself of things (like the serial numbers of equipment I'm repairing). If I need to take an impromptu photo, I'll use my Panasonic point-and-shoot with Leica lens. If I need to take a proper photo, I'll use my Konica-Minolta DSLR.
Much like buying a bicycle and expecting it to propel you along at highway speeds, I think people're expecting a little too much of the tiny lenses and sensors in mobile 'phones. Be thankful that they're there, but don't ever expect them to be proper photographic tools.
BTW, sorry if this sounds like a dig at you - it's not - it's merely the culmination of spending too much time reading people's expectations of not-meant-for-anything-but-happy-snaps cameras.
I understand what you are saying. Just trying to figure out if the volume of the videos taken is as loud as it gets (per you tube videos/ at the store) or if there is some sort of workaround available. Hopefully someone with first hand knowledge can chime in.
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You can fix all the problems of the default camera by using 3rd party software. Presently I'm using Camera 360 Ultimate to take still shots and Camera ZOOM FX to take video (360 doesn't take video). DON'T use the crapware that comes from HTC.
For video playback, use MX Player. After installation, check all boxes under hardware encoding. Change the CPU cores to 4 and the color depth to 32-bit. Click on a movie to start playback then go into settings. Turn the brightness all the way up and Walla! Crystal clear, beautifully colored movie watching!
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You can fix all the problems of the default camera by using 3rd party software. Presently I'm using Camera 360 Ultimate to take still shots and Camera ZOOM FX to take video (360 doesn't take video). DON'T use the crapware that comes from HTC.
For video playback, use MX Player. After installation, check all boxes under hardware encoding. Change the CPU cores to 4 and the color depth to 32-bit. Click on a movie to start playback then go into settings. Turn the brightness all the way up and Walla! Crystal clear, beautifully colored movie watching!
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Thanks Doc, so Camera Zoom FX produces satisfactory audio levels for video recording. That's the info I was looking for.
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Hello,
Could you explain me, how can I get best possible quality of photos ? I mean, I can read here and there, that X10 has got really, really good camera with 8MP and so on.
Thruth is, though, that I can't get any photos with reasonable quality. I mean picture is blurred and in locations inside house, photos are rather dark.
I really like this phone but I also have HD2 with Android and looking at picture quality of photos made on these two phones I'm positive that HD2 makes far better ones (in spite of its worse specs).
Buy vignette software -with the appropriate settings and a bit of picture taking practice by you(you need to learn how to use it properly).
You can produce high quality pictures with vignette, much better than stock camera app that comes with phone.
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Or best of all, use this camera mod thanks do 28spawn
Thans for advices. I'm using camera mod v10 but it's still not quite what it should be. Maybe I just must get used to
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Try fxcamera or 360camera from market. Both are better than stock.
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vignette is the best by far
Use spawns but use touch to capture mode it made my pics much clearer since it was really easy to hold the camera still
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vignette is the best by far
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Absolutely!!!!! No question about it.
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I think that in the X10's case, the phone's camera hardware is better in quality than the stock camera software.
I too had lots of high hopes for the built-in Sony Ericsson camera app. Unfortunately, although many of the pictures I took seemed to look okay on the phone screen, they were actually terrible when a computer or HDTV screen revealed the blurriness of them all. The speed in which the app captures an image is just too slow, particularly if I tried using the actual camera button on the phone. Even with image stabilization enabled, I would rarely get a decent picture. Using the touch capture feature helps a little, but not much. Taking pictures indoors generally yields the worst results. I've taken some good shots outdoors as long as the lighting is bright.
My favorite camera app is Vignette. With so many options to choose from and so many high-quality effects, it is the best one out of the few I've tried off the Android Market. The only thing I don't like about Vignette is that by going full resolution plus using its 'superfine' quality mode, it can take a while to process after you've taken a shot and start to save.
We're not alone in the hard-to-use stock camera app department, though. My girlfriend has an HTC EVO 4G (known also as the HTC Supesonic), and the indoor pictures she takes with her stock app often has similar blurriness issues as the X10.
I still use my Sony DSC-W290 or DSC-TX7 point-and-shoot cameras if I want better quality, but the X10 and Vignette will do in a pinch.
Thank you very much for all the answers. I'll try vignette, fx, 360 and spawns. Hope it will change my current opinion, which is similar to xdadevelopers1222's point of view
Is it me or does our camcorder suck?? I recorded my dog in the house blinds were open and everything so I can have light in the house but my video still came out dark which is crazy really starting to think our camera is wack I love the phone don't get me wrong but I'm considering trading it in I mean its like I have to be outside to get decent quality....in the daytime anyway
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You forgot to turn on the camera light.
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You forgot to turn on the camera light.
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But it was light in my house tho open blinds and everything.....
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Maybe too much light or cam was pointing the bright areas. All cameras will do this. The shutter is taking in all that light.
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Maybe too much light or cam was pointing the bright areas. All cameras will do this. The shutter is taking in all that light.
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Ok ill do a couple more test then
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I'm a professional video producer and hobby photographer. I haven't tested the Evo 3D's camera for video yet, but the problem you described is common in all auto cameras.
When a camera is automatically adjusting exposure, shutter, iso, etc. it adjusts for the brightest dominant subject in frame. The camera thinks you want everything perfectly exposed and is programmed not to blow out the highlights. So, what happens is it sees the bright window and thinks "ok, lets expose to that so it isn't a white blob." If you want to avoid this type of thing, lighting has to be as even as possible to the windows (which is almost always impossible) or you frame your subject without the window in the background. You also avoid this by using manual exposure settings, but I'm not sure how much control you'll have on the E3D.
What I would be weary of is the bitrate the E3D records video at. HD is only a resolution, but if it's a crappy bitrate, the video will look like crap. If you're not familiar with that, search youtube for some sample clips of videos in different bitrates. This probably can't be adjusted in the settings, but might be adjusted with some development if this is lacking. I remember when I was on my Samsung Moment which was android 2.1, that was adjusted in the build.prop but I don't know if that's the same here.
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Some examples of what I described -
Bitrate comparrisons:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xNG6gw4cxU
Some background to the above clip, this is testing the Q scale of a hacked firmware for a DSLR. The Q scale is just the piece of the firmware that controls the video compression/bitrate. The lower it is set, the higher the bitrate it uses. He starts at about a 44Mbps bitrate in the above video and moves down to about 10Mbps or lower. I'd be surprised if the E3D records even 2 or 3 Mbps. But if you jump from the beginning to about 1 min 30 sec. you can see the difference more. Watching it through, the changes are so subtle you might not notice much.
Couldn't find a video to demonstrate, but this forum post about the subject might help:
http://forums.cnet.com/7723-7594_102-282799.html
@GK1984 THANKS A LOT your info makes sense even tho imo my EVO 3d camera is kinda wack ....specially in low light
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@GK1984 THANKS A LOT your info makes sense even tho imo my EVO 3d camera is kinda wack ....specially in low light
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No problem. There's a lot to factor into better low-light picture. The tiny lens on mobile phones doesn't help. The new Mytouch HTC just released this summer has a back-lit sensor which lets more light hit the sensor, for example (the sensor is built backwards so the wiring is behind it - in a nut-shell). It's like a "duh" technology but JUST emerged recently. A lot of cameras compensate by adjusting the ISO (digital equivalent to film speed or sensitivity to light) but that causes more noise/fuzz to appear. You may want to try that though if you can for video, I know you can on photos. But feel free to ask me anything about video or photography and I'll do my best to respond. I don't sign in to XDA often, but I'd be glad to exchange emails or something.
Turn up the exposure, under image adjustments.
Does wonders for me.
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Turn up the exposure, under image adjustments.
Does wonders for me.
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I did I mess with all the settings .....stop not satisfied lol .....just think HTC could if done better I know back in the day BAKED SNACK would tweak the camera and camcorder to make it better....just hope eventually the devs will do the same
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That's the only settings change I would make to get the best results, aside from dancing with a higher ISO... I keep it at max on both the camera & camcorder.
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That's the only settings change I would make to get the best results, aside from dancing with a higher ISO... I keep it at max on both the camera & camcorder.
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Gotcha
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Hey guys I was testing our 1080 p and noticed that our camera was horrible when looking at things with lights like a TV screen or something you really couldn't see anything on there it just looked very bright. It happens when your filming people and there's a light in the background also it just shows up as a huge glare and its horrible. It's on all roms and I think its just the camera in general. My friend also has this phone and I tested it and it resulted in the same thing. Light sources are being shown to much I guess and trust me it's horrible to try and show off your phone and claiming to have one of the best phones in the world and your camera 1080p is filming horribly. It's retarded as hell and up until this discovery I've had no complaints about this phone. So my question is what can we do to fix this. I've tried lowering the EV Control to negative 2 and it still gave the glare. Do we have to wait for an update to fix this problem or what.
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are you on stock or custom rom? i am on unnamed v2.2.1 and having 'continous autofocus' issue during 1080p shooting that makes the video blurry and sticky.i have posted this in unnamed dev forum.
meanwhile, as a workaround i use 720p mode that somehow makes video kinda okay.
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are you on stock or custom rom? i am on unnamed v2.2.1 and having 'continous autofocus' issue during 1080p shooting that makes the video blurry and sticky.i have posted this in unnamed dev forum.
meanwhile, as a workaround i use 720p mode that somehow makes video kinda okay.
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It happens on both and its horrible. I should be able to use the features I was promised without trouble
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This problem can not be fixed.
The detector has a limited dynamic range- smaller pixels have lower dynamic range. The lens needs to be small, otherwise the device isn't pocket friendly. Lens size must be matched to pixel size, so even if a manufacturer wanted to include a high dynamic range imager in a cellphone, size-constraints make it unlikely.
It isn't realistic to expect a phone camera to compare in quality to a dedicated (and larger device) camera.
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This problem can not be fixed.
The detector has a limited dynamic range- smaller pixels have lower dynamic range. The lens needs to be small, otherwise the device isn't pocket friendly. Lens size must be matched to pixel size, so even if a manufacturer wanted to include a high dynamic range imager in a cellphone, size-constraints make it unlikely.
It isn't realistic to expect a phone camera to compare in quality to a dedicated (and larger device) camera.
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That's not relevant at all. There are multiple phones that have great cameras such as the Xperia arc. And I expect a device that outperforms others. That's why I bought this phone. And even my old Xperia x10 camera was able to cover white balance a lot better in certain areas. Our camera should be better. It takes great still shots but horrible video in lighted areas I guess. It doesn't make sense.
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If someone could modify the Camera to accept tap to focus and exposure in video mode it would be perfect. That's what the issue is. However, I notice that during recording it is a LOT better than what it is when you just set video mode and look at it.
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If someone could modify the Camera to accept tap to focus and exposure in video mode it would be perfect. That's what the issue is. However, I notice that during recording it is a LOT better than what it is when you just set video mode and look at it.
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I just don't get how we have one of the greatest cameras and it does this bad with white balance. And yes I noticed the recording thing too
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Ok, So the stock camera app isn't that great. Can anyone recommend a good camera app specifically for capturing text(or maybe settings)? not worried about OCR, just want the text to come out clear.
Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
I love the stock app but it's not for everyone. Best app in the market is Camera Zoom fx. Used it on my Captivate after going to CyanogenMod as the vanilla android camera sucks imo. It is a paid app and I'm not sure how much it costs as I got mine from the 10 cent sale in December
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Ok, thanks, il give it a look tomorrow. Any more suggestions are welcome.
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it works great on the flyer too. Used it on Gumbys desensified rom too as I didn't care for the aosp camera. One thing though if you want wide screen with zoom fx, 3.2mp is as high as you can go, where the htc app will go all the way to 5
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Thanks alot, Camera Zoom FX works pretty good for text, appreciate the help, thank you
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Thanks alot, Camera Zoom FX works pretty good for text, appreciate the help, thank you
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I think the HTC camera app is quite good , but it depends on exactly what you are trying to do, which is not really clear. The HTC apps gives you control of all the settings which you may lose on some apps. Can you describe what the problem is exactly. There are some specialty apps for documents that has post processing that might help
The stock camera is better than alot of camera apps, however when i take a picture of text, some area's tend to be blurry and zooming in makes them worse. The depth of field is bad, but i assume that is mainly a hardware thing? Camera Zoom FX works slightly better, text is more readable and you can zoom in a little without blurring it.
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The stock camera is better than alot of camera apps, however when i take a picture of text, some area's tend to be blurry and zooming in makes them worse. The depth of field is bad, but i assume that is mainly a hardware thing? Camera Zoom FX works slightly better, text is more readable and you can zoom in a little without blurring it.
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Depth of filed is related to the lens and aperture and has nothing to do with software other than you can adjust some parameters to make it more or less.
Zoom will always make resolution worse because there is no optical zoom and when you"zoom" you are doing it digitally and getting less resolution. 3.2mp can never be as good as 5mp so I assume you are simply holding the camera more steady and the app has little to do with it.
Try this. on the stock app, change the effect to depth of field, set the ISO to 100 if you have enough light or 200 if you need more brightness. Do not zoom.
You will have to hold very steady and straight. Watch the focus, it won't focus is you are too close to the subject.
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Depth of filed is related to the lens and aperture and has nothing to do with software other than you can adjust some parameters to make it more or less.
Zoom will always make resolution worse because there is no optical zoom and when you"zoom" you are doing it digitally and getting less resolution. 3.2mp can never be as good as 5mp so I assume you are simply holding the camera more steady and the app has little to do with it.
Try this. on the stock app, change the effect to depth of field, set the ISO to 100 if you have enough light or 200 if you need more brightness. Do not zoom.
You will have to hold very steady and straight. Watch the focus, it won't focus is you are too close to the subject.
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Ok, that settings do work slightly better, still not the greatest, im just going to write this off to the hardware component.
A few years ago my friend had this phone http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_j105_naite-2818.php
The camera was amazing, only 2MP but took really good pics.
Well I"m still not sure what you are trying to do, but I get consistently fine results with the flyer using the app Scan2PDF for documents. The Flyer does not have a flash, so you have to make sure you have good light without shadows. Otherwise the camera in the flyer is as good or better than most tablets and phones. Like any camera , even $3000 DSLRS, when you do closeups, the depth of field is very short.
Ok, say for instance when im studying, my textbooks are like 1k pages and it takes up space when its open and its an effort to navigate; i take a pic of a page or 2 and it makes it easier to work with. Thing is, it doesn't come out very great. If i take a pic of the whole page, some parts are less readable, almost like it doesn't focus the whole thing. If i take a pic of a paragraph, then it comes out fine. It doesn't seems as clear as it should be for a 5MP camera. Again, i think its just the hardware.
Yeah most of the reviews of the flyer were great but it got knocked on the camera.
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I think that CamScanner is one of the best apps for your purpose. It's free, and it automatically does a lot of image post processing to give you the clear text you are looking for, alongside cropping out the background, etc.
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the more light you provide the greater the depth of field will be, but you still need to have the subject flat and evenly lighted. Same for any camera, if you cant provide a reasonable subject, the camera cannot defy the laws of physics.
Just picked up this phone a week ago and I was very sceptical at first. Being a long time Samsung user and a fan of TW I'd thought I couldn't get used to the Sense..
But the phone is still in my hands. Not because of battery life, or screen. But because of the amazing sound out of those tiny speakers. Today I went to a local air show and thought I'd see how the mic's would enjoy some extreme loud scenarios.
As you will here, the One does exceptionally well. I've taken many cell phones to concert events and hockey games that just can't record properly when under anything loud.
This is also by far the loudest I have ever recorded a video before. The video does not do it justice. A F-18 flying that close, I can't describe it. You can feel it in your chest.
Anyways, enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7VeKXztMeo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Definitely impressive. I love this phone and it's sound recording
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Amazing!
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This is also by far the loudest I have ever recorded a video before. The video does not do it justice. A F-18 flying that close, I can't describe it. You can feel it in your chest.
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Hi, I've got also a HTC One and I film often concerts, loud car actions (drift, drag), or air shows (real planes and also gas and jet model planes).
Only my biggest hand cam (Pana X900) can reproduce the sound like it, the others get overdriven.
My main problem is, the videos have a low compression (high bitrate, about 15,5 Mbps), which is not surely needed in each case, and eats the memory..
Do you have any idea or experience, how to lower the compression, wihout changing the HD-resolution?
Or which is the currently most useful video converter, my RiverPast Video Cleaner and BoilSoft converter are unable to make an easy batch conversion.
Thanks in advance!
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Hi, I've got also a HTC One and I film often concerts, loud car actions (drift, drag), or air shows (real planes and also gas and jet model planes).
Only my biggest hand cam (Pana X900) can reproduce the sound like it, the others get overdriven.
My main problem is, the videos have a low compression (high bitrate, about 15,5 Mbps), which is not surely needed in each case, and eats the memory..
Do you have any idea or experience, how to lower the compression, wihout changing the HD-resolution?
Or which is the currently most useful video converter, my RiverPast Video Cleaner and BoilSoft converter are unable to make an easy batch conversion.
Thanks in advance!
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Honestly, no. I am mainly a photographer, and had my DSLR at the show. I by chance tried a video on the HTC One when the jet made the closest pass. Unfortunately I didn't have the nice cam out to get some close ups.
If your asking how to lower the compression on the video recording for the HTC One itself, you would need a custom ROM and a developer out there. I've seen such things done on my old Note 2 but none for this phone.
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Saw HTC in person at bestbuy. I have to say it is a beautiful phone.