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Hi,
Just wondering what is the best setting on the stock lumia 920 camera for indoor bar scene or clubbing scene? Since there will be a lot of people moving around and I want to decrease any blurs, I was thinking of decreasing the exposure to the minimalist setting and increasing the ISO to 800 with flash on.
Questioned Camera Capabilities... But...
to be honest, don't expect alot from the Carl Zeiss Camera lens to perform as good as a Sony Handy-cam for video shooting or a DSLR for still images.
I'm a photographer and I've put the Lumia 920 camera on exhaustive tests. the performance of the f/2.0 lens ratio to the size of the Camera Sensor (1/3.2") really surprised me. I know that comparing a cell phone camera to a DSLR is like comparing a kite to a space ship! but it's really usable and better than carrying a chunky DSLR camera.
the bottom line is, you might get some acceptable results ONLY with still images and NOT video shots. just crank up the ISO to 800, also crank up the Exposure to 2.. and try to capture STEADY people and objects. NOT moving people because you'd get shaky blurry images.
I had the HTC 8X before it got it exchanged with the Lumia 920. the HTC 8x camera provides more camera custom options that our Nokia.
Hello. Monday I bring the lumia 920, I read in many forums that lasts almost anything, that's true, how hard you to you with normal use and moderate? come from a hox and lasted a whole day without problems.
So far it easily lasts a day for me. I have 2 gmail accounts, one hotmail account and a facebook account on sync.
So I thinkt the battery life is pretty decent. But if you are a heavy user, the battery will not last a day.
I also do not regret buying this phone, comming from a Galaxy Note II. Although, the camera is a little disappointing, the design is beautiful, and the performance is smooth as butter.
Gnarfsan said:
Although, the camera is a little disappointing,
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i seriously didnt get this ??
LOL "the camera is a little disappointing"
did you see cameras from other phones??? for me Lumia 920 have best camera (if not count 925 or 1020 and pureview 808)
Gnarfsan said:
Although, the camera is a little disappointing,
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Are you serious. The camera in the 920 has been compared to many professional SLR cameras for quality and has been on par with them. Until the other two newer Lumias got released this camera was the best on the market for a phone. It's best ability is low light however. There is no other phone that can take pics in the low light levels this phone does.
Gnarfsan said:
So far it easily lasts a day for me. I have 2 gmail accounts, one hotmail account and a facebook account on sync.
So I thinkt the battery life is pretty decent. But if you are a heavy user, the battery will not last a day.
I also do not regret buying this phone, comming from a Galaxy Note II. Although, the camera is a little disappointing, the design is beautiful, and the performance is smooth as butter.
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He probably meant from his expectations, since the camera on the Lumia 920 was touted so highly. I have one, and TBH it's a great camera, especially given that it's on a mobile phone, but not mindblowingly game changing.
aaki_rocker said:
i seriously didnt get this ??
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I come from a Galaxy Note 2.
What I don't like about the Lumia 920 camera:
It does not meassure light properly where I click. It only focusses unlike the Note 2 and the iPhone. I get a lot of pictures of people with dark faces, which has never been a problem on my previous phones.
It's incredibly slow compared to the Note 2, which is almost instant.
The pictures lack contrast, and often look slightly out of focus.
I had expected it to be at least on par with the Note 2 (which has the same camera as the GS3)
These are my experiences with the stock camera app. I can't wait to try the Pro Cam app though.
Solarenemy68 said:
The camera in the 920 has been compared to many professional SLR cameras for quality and has been on par with them.
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Can you share a link or something? Because in all the reviews that I have read, noone have compared it to a SLR. In fact, many of them have been disappointed with the daylight performance when compared to other flagship phones launched that fall.
The only times I have seen a anyone comming up with a statement remotely like yours is when testing the Nokia 808 or the Lumia 1020.
Edit: To back up these wild claims:
DP Review:
Unfortunately, the 920’s daylight performance is only OK. There’s at least as much noise as much of the competition, if not more. So much engineering has clearly gone into the 920’s camera unit that we’d hope for class-leading sensor performance, but it seems to be middle of the pack.
http://connect.dpreview.com/post/9128863653/nokia-lumia-920-camera-review-first-look
The Verge:
To most eyes, the images look a little washed out and don’t "pop," with not enough warm tones.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/1/3584486/nokia-lumia-920-review
Slashgear:
with bonus comparison to the Samsung Galaxy S III and see how diverse the photos can be. These color variations as well as the end result of photos that with one device appear to be much sharper than the Lumia 920 mean that we’ve got software at work here that attempts to create for you a finished image
http://www.slashgear.com/att-nokia-lumia-920-review-03255516/
Techno Buffalo:
Overall, it’s comparable to the iPhone 5 camera, but I prefer the iPhone 5 because it generally offered sharper photos.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/reviews/nokia-lumia-920-review/
Engadget:
but that performance has somehow cost your well-lit images a degree of detail you might not want to give up.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/02/nokia-lumia-920-review/
Pocketnow:
It’s pretty clear that the Lumia 920′s image sensor is nothing special, as it looks just about the same as the lower-end Lumia 810.
http://pocketnow.com/2012/11/15/nokia-lumia-920-review-att
Last weekend my Galaxy S III was stolen, and I had to buy a new phone asap. With a little time to think it through I took a chance with Lumia 920 and I can confirm that, in every aspect, Galaxy S III makes better daily photos. However, Lumia 920 supposed to shine in low-light segment, but unfortunately didn't have time to test that. Overall, so far good phone experience.
All the reviews of the Nokia 920 are done with the software error when the Lumia 920 was getting on the market.
Now we have the Amber update so all these reviews are a little outdated isn't?
Fact is, Nokia Lumia 920 has a Carl Zeiss lens and optical image stabilization, one of the reasons I bought the Lumia.
The optical lens is an very important factor of taking a good picture, besides that optical image stabilization is awsome.
Carl Zeiss does have a big name in camera lenses.
Edit; Lol I'm getting a bit of topic I see, as topic started about the battery.
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All the reviews of the Nokia 920 are done with the software error when the Lumia 920 was getting on the market.
Now we have the Amber update so all these reviews are a little outdated isn't?
Fact is, Nokia Lumia 920 has a Carl Zeiss lens and optical image stabilization, one of the reasons I bought the Lumia.
The optical lens is an very important factor of taking a good picture, besides that optical image stabilization is awsome.
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The debate here started before the Amber update. I haven't had much use of the camera since then. But the few pictures that I have taken since then are def. not up to SLR standards. Btw. optics do not matter if the rest isn't good enough to back it.
On a side note, I'm using my Galaxy Note 2 today, and damn is it a laggy mess when compared to the Lumia 920 over all (Not talking about the camera here). And it even has 4x1.600 Mhz cores. Wtf.
I know, and I didn't say The Lumia 920 camera is up to SLR standards.
A phone has to be flat so the sensor can't be big as a SLR.
But the lens and optical image stabilization do matter if
you compare the Nokia camera with other phones manufactured.
It's a breaktrough.
But again I'm off topic lol.
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The debate here started before the Amber update. I haven't had much use of the camera since then. But the few pictures that I have taken since then are def. not up to SLR standards. Btw. optics do not matter if the rest isn't good enough to back it.
On a side note, I'm using my Galaxy Note 2 today, and damn is it a laggy mess when compared to the Lumia 920 over all (Not talking about the camera here). And it even has 4x1.600 Mhz cores. Wtf.
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I know, and I didn't say The Lumia 920 camera is up to SLR standards.
A phone has to be flat so the sensor can't be big as a SLR.
But the lens and optical image stabilization do matter if
you compare the Nokia camera with other phones manufactured.
It's a breaktrough.
But again I'm off topic lol.
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I agree that it matters, but the end results from my Galaxy Note 2 have been better. So with the Note 2 I get sharper pictures and it takes them the exact moment that I press the camera button which is often a very important feature if you want to get the right motive. It also meassures light at the right target and not the sky.
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I agree that it matters, but the end results from my Galaxy Note 2 have been better. So with the Note 2 I get sharper pictures and it takes them the exact moment that I press the camera button which is often a very important feature if you want to get the right motive. It also meassures light at the right target and not the sky.
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Hi,
With amber update and nokia pro cam focus is better and measures light more correct than before it.
Hi,
I've made some test shots today after this discussion (I just bought my Lumia a couple of days ago) with the Pro cam on Amber and yes pictures are pretty sharp.
But to be honest I'm a bit dissapointed about the noise in the pictures.
I think the standard camera does make better quality pictures (after some later tests but I still need to test more) and you can set ISO there as well.
Light is sometimes correct but not always.
Attached a sample picture I took today On amber update and nokia Pro cam set to ISO 100 (f/2.0 and shutter 1/1600 sec are set automatic).
On original image size you see the noise, which shouldn't be there at all on bright daylight.
boril said:
Hi,
With amber update and nokia Pro cam focus does look ok.
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I see we are still talking about the camera in a thread that is supposed to be about the battery and it expected daily use.
Yep you are right.
About the battery I can say it last easy a whole day on regular use but every day I need to charge.
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I see we are still talking about the camera in a thread that is supposed to be about the battery and it expected daily use.
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Laurentius26 said:
Yep you are right.
About the battery I can say it last easy a whole day on regular use but every day I need to charge.
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Same here. Basically it drains very little battery while it's not in use. Even on LTE.
Mine drop 25% just on stand by overnight from 10PM till 5:00AM. I reset, fresh install etc.. but still no help. Lucky if it last me for 8 hours when I start using it. Nagivation for 40 min and battery drop 12%.
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Mine drop 25% just on stand by overnight from 10PM till 5:00AM. I reset, fresh install etc.. but still no help. Lucky if it last me for 8 hours when I start using it. Nagivation for 40 min and battery drop 12%.
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It sounds faulty For how have you had it?
I've found some LG G2 video and photo samples with the originals that you can download. Photo quality seems really good but that 60 fps sample seems to run too fast? Or is it my PC??
Images here: http://optimusforums.com/threads/lg-g2-photo-samples.8836/
Video samples here: http://optimusforums.com/threads/lg-g2-video-sample.8837/
Honestly the photos and videos look and sound pretty terrible. I've seen some sample pics from Phonearena, pics from a couple korean sites, and video samples from other testers besides these. The photos are grainy, have drab colors, blur a lot, and seem to be constantly overexposed and over-contrasty losing all fine detail where all grays turn black and all bright shades turn white. The videos have LG's trademark OCD autofocus that keeps on bouncing and bouncing even on a perfectly still scene and all the image problems the photos suffer. The audio capture is grating and reminds me of the horrible audio capture of the GS3 and older HTC phones. I'd rank the camera chops below even last gen flagships.
Other than the amazing screen and thin bezels, the rest of the LG G2 is shaping up to be another copycat follow everyone else half effort. Poorly implemented OIS that barely exists (worse than even the HTC One), the same unimpressive 13MP camera from last year's Optimus G that many websites said was worse than the 8MP version, the same cheap plastic build but in this case you can't even remove the battery or expand storage space, and little in the way of innovation besides ho hum spec bumps.
I am mostly disappointed in the camera, as this is the year of the Lumia 1020's 41MP camera, Galaxy S4 Zoom's 10x zoom and large sensor, Xperia Z1 with 1/2.3" sensor, Oppo N1 which I am very siked for coming next month, a big camera bump for the iPhone 5S, a 13MP OIS camera from Samsung on the Note 3 which will surely be better than this, Motorola's ClearPixel, and HTC's Ultrapixel. Even though everyone is trying to compete with better camera's, LG just stuck with last year's lackluster faux 13MP one and tacked on a barely there OIS.
Cue ignorant or willfully in denial comments about not final firmware and prototype hardware and yada yada yada. I've been listening to the same excuses for years for dozens and dozens of phones from Nokia and HTC and Samsung and LG and whoever. You get what you see. That's that. The Lumia 920 isn't going to get any sharper looking even after a year of updates. The Xperia Z noise and terrible JPEG algorithm isn't going anywherer. The grain in that smaller Lumia 1020 sensor will be there forever. The cartoony smeared and overprocessed HTC pictures will stay that way. And LG's photos will always look like they were recorded on a VHS tape and played back on an old tube TV. Prototypes, pre-launch hardware, post-launch, hardware made a year later with a year worth of updates, same thing.
Photos when you zoom in to them look over sharpened and compressed. I agree that LG could have done better there with the camera. 920 OIS seems to be one of the best where the G2 doesn't seem that effective. Much like the HTC OIS. But if you look around on the youtube videos some 1020 and 920 videos are shaky and other less. I wonder why that is? Some people have steady hands where others don't?
Edit: New video up that shows the OIS does work now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekN9As4r7ms
Sigh not impressed either. I think katamari is right.
Sux cuz my s3 screen is broken and waiting for a worthy update. S4 is not an option, i hate pentile amoled and Samsung didn't learn from the s3. Reason enough for me to abandon Samsung.
HTC has ridiculous built in social shiat, not an option either.
I want a full hd full sub pixels display below 5inch. G2 was an exception cuz of the thin bezel. And to all the brands that bring out new high end phones without full hd display... well, see you next year maybe.
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HTC has ridiculous built in social shiat, not an option either.
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I hate that about them... well did. Then I just rooted and uninstalled all that social crap that I don't use.
idk, i love my GS4 camera and think it easily kills my DNA, and the one in general, and the G2 looks to have pretty much the same quality as the GS4...so i'm excited.
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idk, i love my GS4 camera and think it easily kills my DNA, and the one in general, and the G2 looks to have pretty much the same quality as the GS4...so i'm excited.
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I've owned the S4 and I would say they are indeed about the same quality now. Video is only better because it shakes around less than the S4 due to the OIS. Its somewhere between the HTC one and 920 OIS. In the middle of the two in terms of OIS preformance.
Sound wise the LG G2 picks up too many high frequencies noises at times.
The sony Z1 we don't even know about that camera yet. So how can we comment on it.
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I've owned the S4 and I would say they are indeed about the same quality now. Video is only better because it shakes around less than the S4 due to the OIS. Its somewhere between the HTC one and 920 OIS. In the middle of the two in terms of OIS preformance.
Sound wise the LG G2 picks up too many high frequencies noises at times.
The sony Z1 we don't even know about that camera yet. So how can we comment on it.
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i'm excited. the audio in videos on the S4 was great; i record guitar videos from time to time, and the S4 rocked..i hope the G2 will be good, too!
Sample Photos - GS3 Comparison
I am the recent owner of an LG G2 and I was comparing the photo quality to my old GS3. I only did a few situations, but I thought I should share the results if anyone else is interested. GS3 photos taken @ 8MP and G2 photos @ 13MP.
The GS3 is definitely better at focussing on close objects.
I have some HDR and non-HDR versions there (it's easy to tell them apart). The GS3 HDR seems to be more aggressive, which can often result in a significant loss of contrast.
I also tested the OIS on the G2 by holding the phone with a shaky hand and taking burst shot photos, and it didn't seem to be very effective.
My photos (downsized to 1080p) are here:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bwrp4uluZCpNT19ObXhfZ1pwc2M&usp=sharing
The G2 takes very appealing photos IMO, and it's a step up from my GS3. They could be better, but I still think it's great for a phone.
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I am the recent owner of an LG G2 and I was comparing the photo quality to my old GS3. I only did a few situations, but I thought I should share the results if anyone else is interested. GS3 photos taken @ 8MP and G2 photos @ 13MP.
The GS3 is definitely better at focussing on close objects.
I have some HDR and non-HDR versions there (it's easy to tell them apart). The GS3 HDR seems to be more aggressive, which can often result in a significant loss of contrast.
I also tested the OIS on the G2 by holding the phone with a shaky hand and taking burst shot photos, and it didn't seem to be very effective.
My photos (downsized to 1080p) are here:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bwrp4uluZCpNT19ObXhfZ1pwc2M&usp=sharing
The G2 takes very appealing photos IMO, and it's a step up from my GS3. They could be better, but I still think it's great for a phone.
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Can you try with the camera mod?
With the original camera photos has lot of bad quality but with modded camera it just got great
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Hi,
A camera is a very important factor for me when buying a phone,
I bought my Redmi Note 3 after reading some underwhelming reviews about the camera, thinking "oh well, how bad can the rear camera be?" - well, the camera is really under performing, very soft images, noticeable noise in almost every scenario, very disappointing.
My question is that,
Is it really a hardware issue, or just poor camera algorithms coding?
if the former, I will just look for another phone and sell mine,
otherwise, I will (try to) wait patiently until the appropriate software update will come
Thanks
check this out
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/5ci866/why_do_people_mock_the_redmi_note_3_camera_it/
Camera is nothing but decent , specially at natural light conditions.it seems great at night condition without flash due to low aperture.miui 8 greatly improved my camera experience.i found alomost zero noise in night shots. Enough for a $200 phone
I think it takes good pictures but I found that any kind of motion will blur the picture (even just walking and snapping a pic), so motion sucks, try taking a picture of a moving dog it will just be a blur, low light also sucks, but if you take still pictures under good lighting pictures look great, I think there is a soft spot for this camera it's just hard to find, also lowering the resolution to 12MP will take 16:9 widescreen photos rather then 4:3 photos in 16MP mode
Part of the problem is it never wants to increase the shutter speed properly in order to keep iso low. It tends to take most pictures at 1/25th or so, which is great for static but not for moving objects where you need a faster shutter speed to freeze motion.
ferez said:
Hi,
A camera is a very important factor for me when buying a phone,
I bought my Redmi Note 3 after reading some underwhelming reviews about the camera, thinking "oh well, how bad can the rear camera be?" - well, the camera is really under performing, very soft images, noticeable noise in almost every scenario, very disappointing.
My question is that,
Is it really a hardware issue, or just poor camera algorithms coding?
if the former, I will just look for another phone and sell mine,
otherwise, I will (try to) wait patiently until the appropriate software update will come
Thanks
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low light shots are average.
daytime shots are great.
did you tweak the default settings?
which ROM are you on?....try to be on latest MM dev or china rom
also try using open camera.
at this price range, show me a phone which gives better images?
I tried all the tweaks available including using Open Camera, nothing really helped.
I ended up selling it and buying an Mi4C - the difference in photo quality is unbelievable (at a price of around 90$ new)
Had 7 different smart phones this year, and Redmi Note's camera was the weakest among them, for me it's very noticeable.
I've been using the Huawei P10 on an off since MWC and thought I'd share my camera review and 90+ pictures that I've taken with the phone.
Quick highlights: camera is similar to the P9 form last year, but the software has gotten better and the P10's digital background blur is better as well. HDR images are kinda dull, but HRD isn't really needed since the dual-sensor does a really good job of pulling in extra light. Works really well when taking photos against the sun. Low light performance could be better. I'll have to do some side-by-side comparison shots, but I think low light was better on the P9.
93 pictures
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3FaKHjjH-yqa2dYSWNMUUlYR1E/view?usp=sharing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSdE5QyAuCE (video)
Huawei P10 camera review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NMdPQ5qUPw
Let me know what you think.
Very good review, i have the same thoughts (as former P9 user).
Very good review, i read on other review P10 is beter than iphone 7 in low light... What do you think ?
The camera is awesome, I never take pictures with cell phone, but since it's Leica and the pictures come out pro and you have the ability to take RAW, I will use this as a secondary camera next to my DSLR camera.
Hello
I'm curious about the low light performance two. Some of the reviewers says it's one of the best low light performers. Others says it could be better. I even read a review claiming that the low light performance of the LG G6 is better. Also some people is comparing pictures taken in totally dark rooms, without any light at all. I don't think that's a useful approach. And apparently if the phone camera adds brightness and heavyly over exposes the picture of the dark room. That phone is judged supperior than the phone with the lesser overexposured picture.
ClausG76 said:
Hello
I'm curious about the low light performance two. Some of the reviewers says it's one of the best low light performers. Others says it could be better. I even read a review claiming that the low light performance of the LG G6 is better. Also some people is comparing pictures taken in totally dark rooms, without any light at all. I don't think that's a useful approach. And apparently if the phone camera adds brightness and heavyly over exposes the picture of the dark room. That phone is judged supperior than the phone with the lesser overexposured picture.
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Exactly.
Most reviewers (probably not photographers) tend to think that if the camera
overexpose a dark scene then it has a good low light "performance"
To me it is looks totally fake and unnatural..
Low light performance should be how close the camera can reproduce the current scene and at what noise level at given iso/shutter speed.
Before the P10 I used the Nexus 5x which was a lot better in darker areas. If you like I can provide a comparison.
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Before the P10 I used the Nexus 5x which was a lot better in darker areas. If you like I can provide a comparison.
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Yes preferably non HDR and please provide info of iso and shutter speed (if no exif) and what light level it was when the picture was taken.
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Yes preferably non HDR and please provide info of iso and shutter speed (if no exif) and what light level it was when the picture was taken.
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Ah Sorry. Because shooting pictures without HDR does not make so much sense for me, I can only compare HDR.
But maybe I can provide it after the weekend when I get my hands on my old Nexus.
Hey there. I'm a proud owner of this phone too and since most of you would like to know how the low light situation I'm showing you some photos in this conditions.
They do have some snapseed post-processing because I was experimenting with it.
Huawei P10 review
Yes!!! The camera is the main attraction. 20MP + 12MP dual lens camera is capable of taking crispy pictures or video. Other impressive features include Leica optics, phase detection and laser autofocus, dual-LED, dual-tone flash.
Huawei P10 Plus is a premium smartphone. It features a powerful HiSilicon Kirin 960 supported by an octa-core processor. For intense gaming or multitasking, Mali-G71 graphic processor with either 4GB or 6GB RAM is more than enough. The device will be extremely snappy and responsive. The two variations in storage (64GB & 128GB) will be more than enough for your files and downloads. But you can easily expand it via microSD. The entire device is powered by Li-Ion 3750 mAh battery with fast charging capabilities.
Let me know what you think! :fingers-crossed: