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Hey pals im thinking to get a new android phone & im thinking to buy Lg optimus 1 . So howz this phone n i see only 2-3 custom roms available for it . BTW howz its speed of handling games n apps on it thnks
Best value for money at the 220euros price range, for sure!
So how much you wanna spend?
What are your needs?
Internet surfing, gaming, music, battery life demands?, movie watching, gps ?
For my needs is more than ok so far, it has everything i need... so..
1) what's your budget
2) your needs
The P500 was my first Android phone. Before I had the Samsung SGH-D500 so a HUGE jump of ages xD Of course I'm not old school I heavily used a iPodTouch 2G before. (Same prices more or less) For ME its enough and I can't wait for a good 2.3 ROM on that device. But if I NOW would have the choice I maybe would wait. Since LG is releasing the first DualCore Smartphone soon. But I took the Optimus One. And I think I bought the right device from the right company at the right time.
It looks good is not to big it can receive calls, SMS and E-Mails and stuff. Playing isnt really possible yet because of a touchscreen bug. Which hopefully get fixed with Android 2.3. And if I take a look on the hardware you get more then you pay. So its really a good choice if you dont want to spend that much money on a mobile phone. Also a good choice would be the Samsung wave which costs around 100€ more but does have extremly good hardware. (Like a Galaxy S i9000) However that one uses Bada NOT Android which was the reason why I didnt took it. But there are only a few good arguments why you should take a Android phone over Bada. So its up to you.
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morx said:
Best value for money at the 220euros price range, for sure!
So how much you wanna spend?
What are your needs?
Internet surfing, gaming, music, battery life demands?, movie watching, gps ?
For my needs is more than ok so far, it has everything i need... so..
1) what's your budget
2) your needs
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well wat i need is internet surfing ,gaming , gps ,n does it lag or this phone is smooth n hows the movie n gaming experience on it
+1 added bro thnx fir reply
n my budget is upto 15K indian rupees
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bro what toch screen bug r u talking about ??
sometimes the mobile takes a bit of time to register your touch. say, typing a msg. sometimes you type 2-3 letters & than only the letters will appear. but this is random & its not that it becomes totally unusable. just a bit annoying at times as it limits your typing speed & so will affect games that needs you to make a lot of touch control (no D-pad or scroll here).
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sometimes the mobile takes a bit of time to register your touch. say, typing a msg. sometimes you type 2-3 letters & than only the letters will appear. but this is random & its not that it becomes totally unusable. just a bit annoying at times as it limits your typing speed & so will affect games that needs you to make a lot of touch control (no D-pad or scroll here).
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ok bro so how much battery back up do u get on this phone
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@N3mesis
bro what toch screen bug r u talking about ??
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It laggs when touching the touchscreen in-game i also notice it while typing fast on the keyboard. Since I use amberhome i dont had the problem while typing (especially with using multitouch)
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It was my first android, and i think it is awesome. Some of my friends are using X8, Wildfire, X10. This phone's hardware worths more than its price, and believe me, it is an awesome choice to step into the world of android!
The only time I've ever noticed any significant lag was during the beginning of each level of Angry Birds. Other than that it has been great.
The phone is nice but check this thread for a common problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894210
nice work
nice work man...Custom ROMS to meet every person's taste.. GOOD WORK !!
This phone is the ideal way to get to know Android, imho.
It has decent performance (mainly because it is not memory restricted as many other phones are, X8 and original Samsung Galaxy come to mind), it comes with Froyo and LG has already promised a Gingerbread upgrade (though that will probably take a while to arrive), and it has no annoying quirks with regards to ordinary phone functions.
I come from the original Samsung Galaxy, which cost twice the amount and is still stuck with android 1.6 and incredibly low RAM memory (okay so the screen was awesome and it had 8GB internal storage). There was also a problem with the proximity detector which meant that I often accidentally hung up on people while talking on the phone.
None of that bull**** on this one, it works really well. I suggest you pair it with noejn's excellent Void. rom (beautiful black theme and very configurable!)
The only other budget android phone which might even be better is the ZTE Blade (aka San Francisco) because it's cheaper and because more ROMs are available.
Other decent budget androids:
- x8: stuck on 2.1, low RAM and no roms available afaik
- samsung apollo/europa: low resolution, stuck on 2.1 afaik
- HTC Wildfire: nice phone, but low resolution and slower processor
- that's about it, at least what's available around here...
- samsung apollo/europa: low resolution, stuck on 2.1 afaik
It already has Froyo.
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mainly because it is not memory restricted as many other phones are, X8 and original Samsung Galaxy come to mind
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Certain versions have about 150 MB of free memory available. IMHO that's "memory restricted" for a phone sold today.
Depends on whether we're talking about ram or flash memory I'm talking about ram and no, a phone with 512MB still qualifies as well-endowed!
Sent from my LG-P500 on Void.
would you still recommend void over one of the two gingerbread ports; either cm7 or the other? thanks!
I'd still recommend void over the Gingerbread ROMs at this point. It may not be the latest and greatest, but everything works.
GB roms are in alpha phase, one big benefit with VIOD is that the google Ads are blocked, if google ads are blocked in GB roms, then i am happy to use it...
I believe you can't get Adobe Flash on the phone because of the mediocre CPU used.
Hi all,
I like to have some of you guy's opinion bout wich phone to buy. I do this work where i constantly need 2 phone's, and have a high need of fast GPS connection.
At the moment i'm using 2phones, one is an old school nokia for my work, the other one is my main phone, Galaxy S i9000.
I fixed the i9000 with a hardwaremod so i have superfast gpslock (bad connection back cover)
So now you know what my priority's are, i like to know what Cellphone you guys choose of the two:
Galaxy S duos (Price in my cellphone shop 300euros)
- 1 GHz Cortex-A5 processor
- resolution: 480 x 800 pixels (4.0inch) 230ppi
- ics pre installed, upgradable to Jellybean
- 4 GB storage, 768 MB RAM
- Camera 5 MP, 2592х1944 pixels with flash
- 1500 mAh accu
--> easy rooting, i know samsungs interface and love the fastness of the gps.
Alcatel 997D: (price in me cellphoneshop 220euros)
- 1 GHz Dual-Core Cortex-A9 CPU
- resolution: 480 x 800 pixels (4.3inch) 217ppi
- ICS installed
- 4 GB storage, 1GB RAM
- Camera 8 MP 3264 x 2448 pixels with flash
- 1800 mAh accu
--> no root know yet cuz this is a brand new phone, dunno bout gps speed etc.
My max is 300euros for this phone, so i would like to have some opinions from other people, cuz i'm a bit of a samsung fan
i love to play with my phone, so rooting is prefered, but i dunno if the dualcore rapes the samsungs single core
kind regards,
Robin
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Hi all,
I like to have some of you guy's opinion bout wich phone to buy. I do this work where i constantly need 2 phone's, and have a high need of fast GPS connection.
At the moment i'm using 2phones, one is an old school nokia for my work, the other one is my main phone, Galaxy S i9000.
I fixed the i9000 with a hardwaremod so i have superfast gpslock (bad connection back cover)
So now you know what my priority's are, i like to know what Cellphone you guys choose of the two:
Galaxy S duos (Price in my cellphone shop 300euros)
- 1 GHz Cortex-A5 processor
- resolution: 480 x 800 pixels (4.0inch) 230ppi
- ics pre installed, upgradable to Jellybean
- 4 GB storage, 768 MB RAM
- Camera 5 MP, 2592х1944 pixels with flash
- 1500 mAh accu
--> easy rooting, i know samsungs interface and love the fastness of the gps.
Alcatel 997D: (price in me cellphoneshop 220euros)
- 1 GHz Dual-Core Cortex-A9 CPU
- resolution: 480 x 800 pixels (4.3inch) 217ppi
- ICS installed
- 4 GB storage, 1GB RAM
- Camera 8 MP 3264 x 2448 pixels with flash
- 1800 mAh accu
--> no root know yet cuz this is a brand new phone, dunno bout gps speed etc.
My max is 300euros for this phone, so i would like to have some opinions from other people, cuz i'm a bit of a samsung fan
i love to play with my phone, so rooting is prefered, but i dunno if the dualcore rapes the samsungs single core
kind regards,
Robin
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I have the 997D and I'm very satisfied. It has much better specs than the Galaxy S duoS and it is also cheaper. Go with the alcatel.
I had the same doubt and I've finally gone for the Alcatel, but I can still understand people who would choose Samsung Galaxy S Duos instead. Let's take a look at the pros and cons of each one:
Alcatel OT 997 D:
Pros:
Dual core processor
1 Gb RAM
Cheaper (around 100 euros cheaper than Galaxy S Duos)
Splash proof coating (called P2i)
Cons:
Low resolution for such a big screen, Although, as in Galaxy Nexus, since it has onscreen buttons for home, back and menu on the bottom, resolution is a bit less than the stated 480x800
Worse camera and led flash, although not bad at all
Samsung Galaxy S Duos:
Pros:
Awesome screen quality
Samsung has already included this phone in the list of phones which will get an upgrade to Android 4.1
Awesome camera and led flash
Cons:
Very expensive, too much in my opinion, given the specs
Single core processor
Just 768 Mb RAM
It's really up to you, but well, I don't have to tell you I'd go for the Alcatel, since I have already done so.
jman0 said:
I had the same doubt and I've finally gone for the Alcatel, but I can still understand people who would choose Samsung Galaxy S Duos instead. Let's take a look at the pros and cons of each one:
Alcatel OT 997 D:
Pros:
Dual core processor
1 Gb RAM
Cheaper (around 100 euros cheaper than Galaxy S Duos)
Splash proof coating (called P2i)
Cons:
Low resolution for such a big screen, Although, as in Galaxy Nexus, since it has onscreen buttons for home, back and menu on the bottom, resolution is a bit less than the stated 480x800
Worse camera and led flash, although not bad at all
Samsung Galaxy S Duos:
Pros:
Awesome screen quality
Samsung has already included this phone in the list of phones which will get an upgrade to Android 4.1
Awesome camera and led flash
Cons:
Very expensive, too much in my opinion, given the specs
Single core processor
Just 768 Mb RAM
It's really up to you, but well, I don't have to tell you I'd go for the Alcatel, since I have already done so.
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Well i bought the 997D to, and i'm very happy with it, i came from a i9000 galaxy S, and seriously, why is samsung so slow at starting up???
now i'm looking for a way to root this thing any topics about it yet?
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Well i bought the 997D to, and i'm very happy with it, i came from a i9000 galaxy S, and seriously, why is samsung so slow at starting up???
now i'm looking for a way to root this thing any topics about it yet?
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Mine is waiting at the Post Office at the moment (I live in Spain and it came from Germany) so I guess I'll be able to get it today or tomorrow. I'll try to root it right away, and I'll post to report if I can get something from it.
I haven't been able to root the phone yet. It looks like it's rootable if you keep the stock firmware it comes with, but if you install the latest firmware via OTA update (as I did) there's still no known method to root it.
I tried SuperOneClick, Unlockroot 3.0 (recently updated) and "Root with_Restore by Bin4ry v15.7" (which can be found here at xda) and none of them worked. I guess we'll have to wait. If we had a working Clockworkmod recovery, maybe we could use Chainfire's SuperSU zip, which I succesfully used in the past on other phones. I tried signing it, and then tried to flash it using the stock recovery, but there's no way to do such a thing, since the signature verification always fails.
Another good reason to buy Alcatel OT-997D and not Samsung Galaxy S Duos: the battery.
On the Alcatel, battery can last up to 2 days of my normal use (1hr. talking, around 2 hrs of music and 1 hr. of playing every day), and, according to people I know who have purchased the Samsung, on that one, battery lasts a little longer that 24 hrs. with a similar usage pattern.
Is 997D able to move apps to SD Card
Just purchased a Galaxy S duos with ICS, and finding it has some severe SDCard memory limitations. Had seen some people complaining about this on Forums and GSM Arena, but didn't realise how serious the limitation was until experiencing it myself:
1. 4G internal SD specified, only 2G available
2. Mass storage mode not available, only MTP and PTP. I see from the 997D Q&A that it may still have this feature.
3. Unable to move apps (and therefore associated data) to SD Card without rooting.
4. The pre-installed Navigon maps stores maps on internal SD card, which will preclude use in US or Europe where maps are much larger than my home country Australia.
5. Only apps that appear to use external SD card are inbuilt music and camera. Presumably many larger apps or games will not be useable on this phone. Sony music unlimited will not offline sync with the external SD card, have read that spotify won't either.
6. Seems to be a general issue with latest Samsung phones, but at least the likes of S3 and Note 2 have minimum 16GB of memory to play with, 2GB is just not enough.
7. As an aside, I'm also wondering if the 997D supports DLNA out of the box ?
Wondering if the 997D has the same memory limitiations ? Thinking of returning the galaxy s duos and trying to source a 997D (not easy from Australia).
I'm generally happy with the galaxy s duos, performance is as expected, size, screen and dual sim function are good. However, getting somewhat concerned that I will run out of SDCard storage very quickly with these limitations. Already consumed more than half just by installing basic applications I need for my job.
Looks to me like Samsung should not be selling these ICS+ android phones with anything less than 8GB of available internal memory if they're not able to install apps onto the external SD Card.
bradmini said:
Just purchased a Galaxy S duos with ICS, and finding it has some severe SDCard memory limitations. Had seen some people complaining about this on Forums and GSM Arena, but didn't realise how serious the limitation was until experiencing it myself:
1. 4G internal SD specified, only 2G available
2. Mass storage mode not available, only MTP and PTP. I see from the 997D Q&A that it may still have this feature.
3. Unable to move apps (and therefore associated data) to SD Card without rooting.
4. The pre-installed Navigon maps stores maps on internal SD card, which will preclude use in US or Europe where maps are much larger than my home country Australia.
5. Only apps that appear to use external SD card are inbuilt music and camera. Presumably many larger apps or games will not be useable on this phone. Sony music unlimited will not offline sync with the external SD card, have read that spotify won't either.
6. Seems to be a general issue with latest Samsung phones, but at least the likes of S3 and Note 2 have minimum 16GB of memory to play with, 2GB is just not enough.
7. As an aside, I'm also wondering if the 997D supports DLNA out of the box ?
Wondering if the 997D has the same memory limitiations ? Thinking of returning the galaxy s duos and trying to source a 997D (not easy from Australia).
I'm generally happy with the galaxy s duos, performance is as expected, size, screen and dual sim function are good. However, getting somewhat concerned that I will run out of SDCard storage very quickly with these limitations. Already consumed more than half just by installing basic applications I need for my job.
Looks to me like Samsung should not be selling these ICS+ android phones with anything less than 8GB of available internal memory if they're not able to install apps onto the external SD Card.
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The 4GB you talk of also include internal storage, so you'll never get the full 4GB for user data, and the same applies to 997D and almost any other Android phones. Galaxy Note II doesn't let you use the full 16GB, either.
And now, the other questions:
997D has mass storage, MTP and PTP modes.
Apps are moveable to the sd card, regardless of the root status
The external sdcard is directly mounted under /sdcard, so no problem with GPS navigation software or any other apps.
I think 997D does support DLNA, but I can't be sure, since I haven't tested it myself.
jman0 said:
The 4GB you talk of also include internal storage, so you'll never get the full 4GB for user data, and the same applies to 997D and almost any other Android phones. Galaxy Note II doesn't let you use the full 16GB, either.
And now, the other questions:
997D has mass storage, MTP and PTP modes.
Apps are moveable to the sd card, regardless of the root status
The external sdcard is directly mounted under /sdcard, so no problem with GPS navigation software or any other apps.
I think 997D does support DLNA, but I can't be sure, since I haven't tested it myself.
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Thanks for the information. While I realise a lot of cheaper android phones have restricted internal SD card space, now that Samsung or Google (and assume other vendors will follow suit) are restricting ability to run apps from the external SD Card with ICS and above, 4GB (less whatever the system takes up) is no longer enough for even the most basic android phones. Shouldn't have to root the phone just to load a few apps, maps or synchronise some music offline from a streaming service.
If available, 997D is looking like a much better choice at this point than the Samsung S Duos.
Hello guys !
After searching the online shops for a new android phone i found this dual sim Alcatel, really nice hardware for this kind of money , unbeatable i´ll say ..
I have some questions for you about this phone because i never used a dual sim phone before .
So , can you tell me if the dual sim thing affects the batery usage more than a non dual ?
Another question is about the ´´onscreen buttons for home´´ .. how is it compared to the ´´standard´´ hardware/touch sensitive buttons ? i´m wondering about touching them by mistake when you´re using the phone on browsing/gaming etc .
Thank you in advance .
Of course, having two sims takes more battery power than only one, but I can confirm, since I've been using this phone for a month now, that battery life in the 997D is more than adequate. I'm using the two sims everyday, and with moderate use (2 hrs. of music playback, some 3G browsing and about 1 hr. talk time everyday) mine lasts for almost two days.
Anyway, are you gonna use one or two sims? If you just use one, it doesn't matter how many slots the phone has, since it will only be operating one sim.
By the way, my usage also includes having the mobile data on 2G most of the time, since things like whatsapp don't need much bandwidth to work. When I really need the speed to browse the web or get an app from google play, I switch to 2G and then back to 3G when I'm done.
Yes, you can press the onscreen buttons by mistake, but that happens rarely. And they are as good and sensitive as the screen, and the screen on 997D is very good.
Enviado desde mi ALCATEL ONE TOUCH 997D usando XDA Premium HD app
e-compass
sbaragnaus_ said:
Hi, does the 997d e-compass works well? I've read in other forums it has a lot of problem.
Thanks
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I don't think e-compass have that much issues. If you're talking about erratic orientation to the north, most phones and especially tablets get this prob due largely to the magnetic covered cases on their devices, just like the protective case I have with my Galaxy tab, doing away with my magnetic case when navigating solves it. You can also fix its orientation by getting a compass app with orientation calibrating features.
Hi,
Anyone there have problem with download app more then 2m with mobile network data?Alcatel OT997D:crying::cryingownload fine with wifi any size of the app.Thanks
I bought the 997d, and I'm very happy.
toysnic said:
I bought the 997d, and I'm very happy.
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Can someone put a picture with the led notification for this phone?
sergiuhusca said:
Can someone put a picture with the led notification for this phone?
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LED notification ?
BTW I had the exact same problem as the OP.
I already have a Samsung Galaxy S3 I9305 with 2 GB ram and now in the end I bought the Alcatel for my GF since she wanted dual sim. I don't regret at all, I can assure you it's a great phone!
The screen is of course not as good as the Samsung flagship phone, but it's very decent. If I had to choose again between the Samsung Galaxy S Duos and the Alcatel, I would not hesitate a second! (And I'm more used to Samsung for everything: phone, tv, microwave etc)
The Samsung Galaxy S Duos is a rip off and a huge mistake IMHO (Too expensive, not enough ram and only single core). The Alcatel clearly wins compared to the Samsung. It boots very fast too (even faster than my S3). The battery is fine too for a smartphone and will of course always depend on what you do with it.
Furthermore the Android version running on it works very well and fluid overall. The stock contact/call apps seem to work faster than on the S3 and have all needed features (On the S3 sometimes there is a slight hesitation to open them). Crazy if you think about it. The Samsung own added software isn't that great actually if you look at the performance (feature wise it's fine of course).
I'm really a fan of Samsung in general, believe me! But the S DUOS is not what it should be at all!
EDIT: Now I think of it, there is one advantage of the S DUOS: the physical buttons. The virtual buttons make the usable screen a bit smaller unfortunately My S3 is clearly better in terms of available space on the screen.
But this is a non issue for this class of phone and I suppose on the S DUOS the screen size would disappoint a little as well when I compare it to my S3. Using the buttons however is not a problem in my experience, it's only the screen space that it takes away that "bothers" me.
sbaragnaus_ said:
Hi, does the 997d e-compass works well? I've read in other forums it has a lot of problem.
Thanks
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compass is fixed on latest vBF4-0 rom version.
Opinion after two months of use:
-smooth operation
-very good job dualsim
-very good job GPS;
almost all tested navigation
-battery with an average load can withstand two days
-seems immune to injuries
I hope the updates to JB 4.1
Value for money and work performance seems very beneficial.
This is my next dualsim, and I definitely recommend it.
I very eagerly await the next dualsim Alcatel Idol X
Hello everyone...
Today i saw galaxy s3 replica. It was almost 99% same as the real. It was android. The thing is only the play store was in chinese but i downloaded aptoide on that and installed many android apps which worked without any problem. I installed go launcher zedge application whatsapp viber skype everything worked fine and the price of that phone was $150 only. Even when i inserted my sim into that my GSM network sent me the setting of GPRS & MMS of Samsung Galaxy S3. In about phone it was written galaxy s3. Android 4. something...
I just want to ask one thing that can we install Samsung Stock Firmware on that ? So we can get rid off chinese play store? And some other chinese apps which are unable to delete. So it become like real s3 ?
badcarbon1 said:
Hello everyone...
Today i saw galaxy s3 replica. It was almost 99% same as the real. It was android. The thing is only the play store was in chinese but i downloaded aptoide on that and installed many android apps which worked without any problem. I installed go launcher zedge application whatsapp viber skype everything worked fine and the price of that phone was $150 only. Even when i inserted my sim into that my GSM network sent me the setting of GPRS & MMS of Samsung Galaxy S3. In about phone it was written galaxy s3. Android 4. something...
I just want to ask one thing that can we install Samsung Stock Firmware on that ? So we can get rid off chinese play store? And some other chinese apps which are unable to delete. So it become like real s3 ?
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I have a few questions about this:
1. Where did you see this?
2. Did it say anything about specs? It could have a terrible processor and such.
RokinRonan said:
I have a few questions about this:
1. Where did you see this?
2. Did it say anything about specs? It could have a terrible processor and such.
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My cousin bought that from china..the specs are as follow
Chipset
MT6577 dual core 1GHz
OS
Android 4.1.1
Phone storage
RAM 512MB
StorageDevice
2G Hard Disk
StorageDevice
2G Hard Disk
TF/ micro SD Card Slot
Micro SD memory card (SD 2.0 compatible)Max 32GB
badcarbon1 said:
I just want to ask one thing that can we install Samsung Stock Firmware on that ? So we can get rid off chinese play store? And some other chinese apps which are unable to delete. So it become like real s3 ?
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No you can't flash a Sammy firmware to that.
They have different hardware (I'm not talking about the looks).
And you could try installing the play store apk. ( might not work, you should try pushing it into system/app if that doesn't work, needs root to do this )
You will need to Root 1st to remove all the bloatware from the phone. ( don't ask me how to root, search around, try any universal rooting methods which might work and don't hold me responsible for whatever happens to your phone)
i suggest that you don't buy these Chinese phones, they might look attractive, but deep inside, they might have put all crap and non working stuff.
No support from either the manufacturer or devs here. Nobody to hear you when you're in trouble!
LIFE! IT'S WHAT YOU MAKE OUT OF IT!
nice suggestion
i suggest that you don't buy these Chinese phones, they might look attractive, but deep inside, they might have put all crap and non working stuff.
No support from either the manufacturer or devs here. Nobody to hear you when you're in trouble!
Look at your screen, it'll definitely be the same size as an S3, but with a much lower resolution. Chinese devices, both phones and tablets usually have a max resolution of 800x480, compared to Galaxy S3's 1280x720. Compare your phone to a real S3, you'll see the huge clarity difference. Also 512 MB RAM instead of 2GB and a dual core processor instead of quad core. I'd say you got a bad deal. You can get branded, good quality Android phones with better specs for a little more price. Like the person above said, don't buy Chinese devices. They're ultimate crap.
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Hello, i started that topic because i noticed something, why is so terrible play hardcore games on Galaxy SIII Stock jellybean? I noticed that also on ICS. If you play Minecraft Pocket Edition fancy graphics or Asphalt 7 you will get slight lag that i don't have in my Motorola Razr or Xperia play, i'm not a noob at all, i consider the HD screen that need horse power, but if you look we have the best smartphone in the world, note 2 just have more ram, graphics are maded by GPU and the CPU gets the job to run it, we have a lot of ram.
I'm coming from an iPhone 4S but i also have an iPhone 4 that is single core 800ghz processer with 512 ram and run perfectly minecraft pe with no lag. I want figure out whats going on? I upgraded my iphone 4S to not an iPhone 5, but an Galaxy SIII, i want to know where is my advantage? I don't wanna android fags, i love android, but i'm talking about Galaxy SIII, the hardware, where i made a mistake?
To all of those reading, let's not attack the OP, please. If anyone has answers, respond politely. He's asking a simple question.
iSaoHatake said:
where i made a mistake?
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where do I even begin...
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DeadSOL said:
To all of those reading, let's not attack the OP, please. If anyone has answers, respond politely. He's asking a simple question.
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Sorry saying about android fags, i said that because i want a clearly answer, my question is very inocent and i'm glare to receive that kind of answers. I love my galaxy SIII, really i don't want another smartphone, i just want to know if anyone see that problem, Galaxy SIII supposed to be perfect, but something seems wrong with that device, i don't know why.
iSaoHatake said:
Sorry saying about android fags, i said that because i want a clearly answer, my question is very inocent and i'm glare to receive that kind of answers. I love my galaxy SIII, really i don't want another smartphone, i just want to know if anyone see that problem, Galaxy SIII supposed to be perfect, but something seems wrong with that device, i don't know why.
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No phone is perfect, I have no lag issues on any game what so ever.
First of all, ram management is important. If you've ever watched video reviews of android devices on youtube, you'll find that 99% of people use the home button to 'close' their apps instead of using the back button to properly exit the app. This is probably due to the influence of the iphones. Using the home button minimises apps and wastes ram. When the game requires ram, the system has to close those minimised apps, so the cpu load is increased and you get your lags.
This is just one possible reason. There are many others, obviously. Using certain roms, inefficient over clocking or undervolting, etc.
The point is, most lags, whether in games or in the general ui, are due to the user's incompetence, or lack of knowledge, to put it mildly.
So in short, the s3 most certainly does not lag if you know how to use it properly.
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First of all, ram management is important. If you've ever watched video reviews of android devices on youtube, you'll find that 99% of people use the home button to 'close' their apps instead of using the back button to properly exit the app. This is probably due to the influence of the iphones. Using the home button minimises apps and wastes ram. When the game requires ram, the system has to close those minimised apps, so the cpu load is increased and you get your lags.
This is just one possible reason. There are many others, obviously. Using certain roms, inefficient over clocking or undervolting, etc.
The point is, most lags, whether in games or in the general ui, are due to the user's incompetence, or lack of knowledge, to put it mildly.
So in short, the s3 most certainly does not lag if you know how to use it properly.
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Hum, so you are saying the problem is how android manage system ram? It's a kind of answer that make me think and agreed, cuz i know the differences of iPhone 4S and Galaxy SIII, Retina Display + dual core CPU A5 Chip 1ghz + 512 RAM / HD screen + Quadcore Exynos 1,4ghz + 1gb ram. I can only agreed that asphalt 7, minecraft pocket edition or whatever game just run flawlessly on iPhone cuz the software is optmized to get all the power to run games. Galaxy SIII just made me change from iOS cuz i saw a really good smartphone on the go, it's the first android that make me confortable and not afraid about updates or lag OS.
Ok. I am a s3 user for last month. But disappointed on s3 multitasking capabilities. Seriously If u r playing a basic game like angry birds and if u got a call in middle after finishing call the game reload s itself. Wtf. My old lg optimus net with 512mb ram and arv6 800 mhz pro works good at these things. I was able to use uc browser, equilizer app, songs playing in background and also whats app same time on lg op net. But on s3 having quad 1gb ram it sucks. Some times it reloads equilizer app also that hardly takes 2 or 4 mb
I guess because sammy has loaded so much bloatware that leads to 650 or 700 mb ram always in use. What is the use of these specs then????? :banghead:
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Yeah, it isn't. They've really messed it up.
There's nothing that we can do about stock, though. Just move on or go for a custom ROM/kernel.
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Ok. I am a s3 user for last month. But disappointed on s3 multitasking capabilities. Seriously If u r playing a basic game like angry birds and if u got a call in middle after finishing call the game reload s itself. Wtf. My old lg optimus net with 512mb ram and arv6 800 mhz pro works good at these things. I was able to use uc browser, equilizer app, songs playing in background and also whats app same time on lg op net. But on s3 having quad 1gb ram it sucks. Some times it reloads equilizer app also that hardly takes 2 or 4 mb
I guess because sammy has loaded so much bloatware that leads to 650 or 700 mb ram always in use. What is the use of these specs then????? :banghead:
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It's not due to the bloatware. It's actually a problem with ICS and jellybean. They just use more ram than the older versions of android. For example, my old galaxy s could multitask amazingly well on froyo 2.2.1 but not as well on gingerbread and worse on cm10. Similarly, your lg optimus was probably on froyo of gingerbread, which inherently use less ram. Even if you disabled all the s3's bloatware, you'd only get a minor increase in multitasking capabilities. In order to multitask well on ICS or jb, you'd need 2gb of ram. Hopefully, android 5.0 will optimise ram usage and make multitasking better on 1gb ram phones.
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Yeah, it isn't. They've really messed it up.
There's nothing that we can do about stock, though. Just move on or go for a custom ROM/kernel.
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Hmmm thank u for not bashing me. I thought I might have hurt the ego of sammys fans. But really unrooted and on stock it really suck. No use of quad core and gig of ram. Any other solution than rooting???
Yup my op net is on gingerbread 2.3.4 hope that 5.0 will resolve this issue. How u ppl managing this?? Even while using xda app I just pressed home button to check new sms and in background sonsgs also playing. After replying to sms I tap on xda app and guess what it reloads. I have to find whole way to this thread.
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Hmmm thank u for not bashing me. I thought I might have hurt the ego of sammys fans. But really unrooted and on stock it really suck. No use of quad core and gig of ram. Any other solution than rooting???
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Uhh!!
No. Nobody would bash you for this post.
Unless you spam the forum.
I was almost bashed for that yesterday..
LOL
i think some people said MB1 - MB2 Roms has a bit better ram management maybe u can try
and the weird thing my 2 years old GS2 multitask 1000% times better than GS3 ( both on 4.1.2 ) samsung need to fix this **** for their flagship :silly::silly:
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i think some people said MB1 - MB2 Roms has a bit better ram management maybe u can try
and the weird thing my 2 years old GS2 multitask 1000% times better than GS3 ( both on 4.1.2 ) samsung need to fix this **** for their flagship :silly::silly:
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I tried 4.2 leak and Samsung improved memory management on it but that leak has it's own share of bugs and I'm back on 4.1 better to wait for new leak or final product.
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Hmmm thank u for not bashing me. I thought I might have hurt the ego of sammys fans. But really unrooted and on stock it really suck. No use of quad core and gig of ram. Any other solution than rooting???
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No, no; I wouldn't bash you for this. The multitasking issue is a big thing and has been present for a long time. For example, look at my review post and look at the list of negatives: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37700176&postcount=9061
Multitasking really, really sucks on the S3! Samsung have done an awful job.
I really hope Google can fix two major things on the next iteration of Android's OS;
1) Better RAM management (which would improve multitasking and load)
2) Giving us cloud storage for game data (it would be a huge help for those people who wipe or switch ROMs)
Hmmm really hoping that sammy will fix this annoying issue asap. I dnt want to root and install custome rom just nw. I can experiment with these things on my old lg. Its on jb cm 10 already but camera not working. But my s3 is new so will use it stock. Also afraid of sds.
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Nice review mate. :thumbup:
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Well no doubt multitasking sucks on s3. I guess it's not due to jelly bean. My friend's s2 works great on jelly bean and multitasking is great on it. I guess the problem is on software side of s3. 1gb ram its more than enough for handling phones like s3.
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This has been discussed plenty and you're right, it's one of the s3's biggest flaws. The only obvious solution is the only one you can't really do - add ram. That or, you know, hope samsung takes his head out of his ass and actually fixes this since it's rather shameful, but I won't be holding my breath.
But there are workarounds, even if not perfect:
- you can use a custom aosp based rom. There're plenty to chose from. Although i haven't tried how their memory management is better than stock's many people report it is. And they usually use much less ram too and that also helps. The bad side is, since samsung didn't really deliever on the sources they promissed, any aosp rom for the s3 isn't as optimized as it could be. This translates in worse battery life, somewhat more lag than expected, aparently worse camera (from what i heard) that stock stuff... Some people don't even notice other can't live with that - up to you.
- use swap. by installing a swap-enabled kernel you're able to multitask more. This isn't the same as adding ram although it's probably as close as it gets functionality wise. What you're doing is creating a file on either the internal or the external sd that will help with your poor ram managing.
You can get more info here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paging if you're ineterested how stuff works. There's also plenty of info on such kernels on the "original development" thread.
There are prices to be paid though, internal and external sd's are never as fast as ram, so you'll probably feel your phone slower overall, even more if you use the external sd which is known to be even slower than the internal sd (card class is a huge factor here since it determines how fast your card is at reading and writing).
Also, since your phone will be constantly writting/reading from sd you're also reducing it's life span. If your internal sd breaks down, you'll need a new phone since the internal sd can't be replaced. If it's the external sd you can just buy another one cheap.
I did try this with an 8Gb class 6 card and a 512Mb swap. Sure it multitasked like a boss but phone was much slower all around. There are reports from people saying they don't notice any slow downs with a class 10 card though. They're rather cheap so i'll give it a try one day.
- sell it and buy the 9305 with 2Gb of ram. Or wait for the new S4. Or, if you're tired of getting shafted by samsung, go for any other brand. To be honest that xperia Z is looking mighty fine lately...
Super nice info friend. Will try other kernel but not nw. Will wait and watch what sammy is gonna do to fix these in next updates??
So many issues wid this flagship droid. Sudden death, exynos abuse, heating issues........
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Well, it sucks how the phone just kills, stops or breaks whatever you leave running either in background or when the screen turns off. And it's plainly annoying to see almost every app getting reopened after a while even if nothing significant happened. Since there's no working multitask I'd rather have what apple does for "multitasking". At least apps are reopened where they were left.
But I'm keeping it for a bit more. I guess I could sell it and get the 9305 for little more money but I'm waiting to see whatever new comes out. If nothing pleases me I can always get the 05 at any point later, probably cheaper too. There's a 4.2 rom from Samsung to the s3 just around the corner, and I'm aware this is wishful thinking but who knows...
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Well, it sucks how the phone just kills, stops or breaks whatever you leave running either in background or when the screen turns off. And it's plainly annoying to see almost every app getting reopened after a while even if nothing significant happened. Since there's no working multitask I'd rather have what apple does for "multitasking". At least apps are reopened where they were left.
But I'm keeping it for a bit more. I guess I could sell it and get the 9305 for little more money but I'm waiting to see whatever new comes out. If nothing pleases me I can always get the 05 at any point later, probably cheaper too. There's a 4.2 rom from Samsung to the s3 just around the corner, and I'm aware this is wishful thinking but who knows...
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Have you checked what the multitasking is like in aosp roms?
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2 pages and all of the mockery and nonsense flying all over the wall... You guys should sell your phone really, you lose couple hundreds dollar more and buy HTC or sth....save the b*tching
Solution: swap, lower the low Memory Killer value (original value is too high to keep app initial load faster, apps like system tuner or minfree manager will help), lock app logic (so that app doesn't get kill almost immediately when you use another app in between of a big app.
Reason why the galaxy s3 is so bad at multitasking is that to ensure users of less lags, less forgotten apps running in the background hogging the ram. Unfortunately android doesn't have a "pause in between" feature, but you chose it so find the d*mn mod and stop whining. I use AOSP and don't even say I defend samsung.... I just hate the nonsense...
Edit: Btw, titanium backup is only 6$ or so, buy it and freeze the crapwares if you don't use. Freeze, not uninstall so the next time you update your custom rom it won't reappear.
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Actually, I believe Samsung is working on a resolution.
I was trying out the 4.2.1 stock leaked ROM, and to my surprise found that zRam was enabled (thanks to Yank, check out the discussion over on the "bestmultitaskingfix" thread).
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Not sure what is wrong with your phones
Alright, I have read a lot of threads about this issue, but it always amazes me. I am not sure what is up with your phones. I just did a quick test. I opened messaging to a certain message, opened dropbox to my camera uploads, opened xda to this thread, and opened two games (subway surf and hill climb racing). I am able to switch between them with no reloading, fairly quick goes right back to where I was. Checking my ram I am still at 706MB/832MB. After closing it all down I am at 466MB/832MB.
Not sure what I am doing differently. I am running wanamlite v5.5. I have not done anything else special.
I suggest looking a little closer at your phone. What have you done to it and what is taking your memory. Surely there is something(s) you don't really need sucking up your memory.
I know many people report this issue, but I think everyone has a different situation. I don't see how I have no issue and others do, must be some change on the users part that causes/prevents this problem.
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Alright, I have read a lot of threads about this issue, but it always amazes me. I am not sure what is up with your phones. I just did a quick test. I opened messaging to a certain message, opened dropbox to my camera uploads, opened xda to this thread, and opened two games (subway surf and hill climb racing). I am able to switch between them with no reloading, fairly quick goes right back to where I was. Checking my ram I am still at 706MB/832MB. After closing it all down I am at 466MB/832MB.
Not sure what I am doing differently. I am running wanamlite v5.5. I have not done anything else special.
I suggest looking a little closer at your phone. What have you done to it and what is taking your memory. Surely there is something(s) you don't really need sucking up your memory.
I know many people report this issue, but I think everyone has a different situation. I don't see how I have no issue and others do, must be some change on the users part that causes/prevents this problem.
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Hii. well try this run angry birds & subway surf same time plus songs in background & any messenger like nimbuzz then switch between apps & revert here please. also a live wallpaper. :angel:
I am just mentioning basic games. i tried running gta vc & nfs mw but both reloads after first switch.