Hello,
I read. something on the net like this "Many who read this blog know what it is ODIN. For those who are unaware, ODIN is a tool with which we can install any operating system Android. Or more commonly known in the Android community, allows us to flash our device Android." From a website that I can't post here due to the rules.
My question is
1. doesn't Android it self an OS? (like symbian)
2. but if what stated above is true then what are those "any operating system Android"?
3. does it mean the like of froyo gingerbread honeycomb etc?
4. If it is, then doesn't it will be depends on smartphone compatibility? (like say P1000 SGT is only upgradable to gingerbread)
Sorry for asking so much, I searched but it makes it jumbled.
ChevanLemon said:
My question is
1. doesn't Android it self an OS? (like symbian)
2. but if what stated above is true then what are those "any operating system Android"?
3. does it mean the like of froyo gingerbread honeycomb etc?
4. If it is, then doesn't it will be depends on smartphone compatibility? (like say P1000 SGT is only upgradable to gingerbread)
Sorry for asking so much, I searched but it makes it jumbled.
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Yes android is an operating system, no they don't mean "any operating system" they mean any firmware rom and yes you need to install a rom designed for your device.
A firmware rom is a version of android that has been changed to work better on a particular device, for example to remove some system apps or add new features, so it will only run on the device it was made for for example a samsung galaxy s rom will not work on an optimus 3D.
Odin is software that writes the new rom over the original, replacing the old one with a new version.
Dave
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mistermentality said:
Yes android is an operating system, no they don't mean "any operating system" they mean any firmware rom and yes you need to install a rom designed for your device.
A firmware rom is a version of android that has been changed to work better on a particular device, for example to remove some system apps or add new features, so it will only run on the device it was made for for example a samsung galaxy s rom will not work on an optimus 3D.
Odin is software that writes the new rom over the original, replacing the old one with a new version.
Dave
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Ah I see that make things clear. so how do i get that rom? and when i replace with new rom, can I revert it to the original (I suppose it is possible with titanium back up or is it not?)
Ah also, so if I want to install a particular firmware rom then i will need to flash it correct? say since in this case is P1000, how do I get that rom? is there many kind of firmware rom for p1000, what are they? I google it but mostly come up with gingerbread 2.3
ChevanLemon said:
Ah I see that make things clear. so how do i get that rom? and when i replace with new rom, can I revert it to the original (I suppose it is possible with titanium back up or is it not?)
Ah also, so if I want to install a particular firmware rom then i will need to flash it correct? say since in this case is P1000, how do I get that rom? is there many kind of firmware rom for p1000, what are they? I google it but mostly come up with gingerbread 2.3
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Once you put a new rom on your phone anything you had on it before is replaced. To revert back you have to put a copy of your old rom on your phone which then would give you back what you had before.
You have to do this via a pc, titanium backup is for backing upp apps not the operating system itself and so it cannot backup a rom.
You need to visit the xda forum for your phone as there will be detailed guides and information there that are just for your phone. You will also find roms that will work on your phone there.
Don't flash a rom if your unsure or are happy with your phone as it is because unless you get the process right you can damage your phone.
Dave
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I am android a60 (micromax) user, I want to flash it with new roms like jet 2.1 or microfire but I am not able to do that because cache is missing ((status 7) error). I tried all roms but failed, then i found nandroid img files on this forum and success fully flash the android. But the new rom which is cyborg is not working properly. So I decided to dowload new roms. The problem is I have all these roms in zip format and android download tool need .img images. How can i create .img image of system? How can i install these roms on my android using adt?
Is it possible get back to the old original micromax rom eclair 2.1 which is the original operating system that come with a60. I am happy if i roll back to it.
Hoping that i dont have to flash my phone again and again. If there is any thread which provide the same info I need then please provide the link. I have already search xda developer forum at maximum and did not get any relevant information.
Thanks for the help.
X-Zoom Rom
icanseethat said:
I am android a60 (micromax) user, I want to flash it with new roms like jet 2.1 or microfire but I am not able to do that because cache is missing ((status 7) error). I tried all roms but failed, then i found nandroid img files on this forum and success fully flash the android. But the new rom which is cyborg is not working properly. So I decided to dowload new roms. The problem is I have all these roms in zip format and android download tool need .img images. How can i create .img image of system? How can i install these roms on my android using adt?
Is it possible get back to the old original micromax rom eclair 2.1 which is the original operating system that come with a60. I am happy if i roll back to it.
Hoping that i dont have to flash my phone again and again. If there is any thread which provide the same info I need then please provide the link. I have already search xda developer forum at maximum and did not get any relevant information.
Thanks for the help.
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You can try out the X-Zoom rom on techfreeks!!! It has both files : for adt users and for recovery users!!! Link is www . techfreeks. com/micromax-a60/ how-to-update-micromax-a60-x-zoom-v2-custom-froyo-rom-for-micromax-a60/
Hit Thanx if i Helped !!! Come On, Its free!!!
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hi guys i need help for my galaxy s2
i want to change the rom of my phone and i have read all the info but i can't find the proper rom file for my phone. i want to change the rom because i come to china and bought s2 and find out they don't have google play in their phones ....FTW....how can we use this awesome phone without market?
in china baidu is prefered on google. so they don't give google play in their country's firmware rom.....so to get rid of this probem i have installed cyanogen 10 and gaps and now have google play icon but it won't connect to the market because in the baseband version google is not allowed....so what i am asking is "can i change the baseband version of my phone?" like the full format hardDrive in computers and then again install the operating system like DOC....????
my phone's baseband version is I9100ZCLPK....and i don't find any pda of this version so i can't change my rom...or can i?....
if this is possible then please let me know....i am fed up of this useless firmware....please answer this...and thanks in advance.
I think u have a wrong view to baseband.
I try to give an abstract view on it:
Important is which phone u have i9100/i9100g/etc...
This is the same like a PC or a MAC.
The baseband is the system u use on the device.
So like u install windows on PC or iOS yo MAC.
So if u flash now a ROM or another firmware, u change or baseband automatically (like upgrading from XP to Win7)
BUT the system for the phones are also optimised for the location u r and the provider in the region.
I would recommend to read a bit here on XDA, how to flash a ROM or at least which firmwares u can use and flash with Odin.
And please, this was a really easy and abstract comparison, which not fit 100%.
But I hope I could open ur eyes a bit to get more into phone and phone systems
CHEERS
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Hannibal226 said:
I think u have a wrong view to baseband.
I try to give an abstract view on it:
Important is which phone u have i9100/i9100g/etc...
This is the same like a PC or a MAC.
The baseband is the system u use on the device.
So like u install windows on PC or iOS yo MAC.
So if u flash now a ROM or another firmware, u change or baseband automatically (like upgrading from XP to Win7)
BUT the system for the phones are also optimised for the location u r and the provider in the region.
I would recommend to read a bit here on XDA, how to flash a ROM or at least which firmwares u can use and flash with Odin.
And please, this was a really easy and abstract comparison, which not fit 100%.
But I hope I could open ur eyes a bit to get more into phone and phone systems
CHEERS
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I have GT-I9100
i can't find how to flash a rom...i have flashed cyanogen mod 10 and gaps...so now should i have to downgrade or something like that? or just download the rom of my interest and flash it? i downloaded the gingerbread 2.3.5 with asian region...tried to install with odin like the some threads mentioned but in the end the odin box turned red and i don't get any success...after that i tried with the recovery method but installation aborted error appear......am i using the wrong rom or should i have to downgrade it first? but as far as i know there is no downgrade of cyanogen 10 jelly bean upgrade!!!!!! please tell me what to do? or just provide me the best available official rom with market available because the kernel, downgrading or these type of things confusing me a lot and the mehtods i am trying are not working...HElp
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Hi everyone,
I would like to know what is rom and kernal? and how to do that? and root is what means?? can someone explain to me? I wan try to do these for my s2 i9100G cause my phone keep freeze and need to restart
13579tsy said:
Hi everyone,
I would like to know what is rom and kernal? and how to do that? and root is what means?? can someone explain to me? I wan try to do these for my s2 i9100G cause my phone keep freeze and need to restart
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ROM is the android operating system of the phone. It's of two types. Stock ROM (official one supplied with the phone) and Custom ROM(Customized and modded ROMs).
Kernel is the bridge between this ROM and the hardware of the phone. The proper working of all the hardware features depends on the kernel.
Root means giving development level access to ROM inorder to make customization(which is not available in stock ROMs.
There are lots of custom ROMs are available for your device based on CyanogenMod(an open source after market firmware community), AOSP(Android open source project), etc.
Just check your device thread to know how to install acustom ROM to your device.
Hope i helped you..
jabrif said:
ROM is the android operating system of the phone. It's of two types. Stock ROM (official one supplied with the phone) and Custom ROM(Customized and modded ROMs).
Kernel is the bridge between this ROM and the hardware of the phone. The proper working of all the hardware features depends on the kernel.
Root means giving development level access to ROM inorder to make customization(which is not available in stock ROMs.
There are lots of custom ROMs are available for your device based on CyanogenMod(an open source after market firmware community), AOSP(Android open source project), etc.
Just check your device thread to know how to install acustom ROM to your device.
Hope i helped you..
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any suggestion for me to root my i9100G??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1550
13579tsy said:
any suggestion for me toexplanations9100G??
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Look in to your device thread. There will be any explanations about the rooting method. List of ROMs are also available there. So have a look at it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1550
Happy rooting..
Hello, Been A while since i logged in at XDA, ~ i have a few Noobish questions that are quite troublesome to find, ~ i did look at the forums, google and other sites, i have some answers but not generally what i was looking for, so might as well ask the Experts and maybe get some easier tips hehehe, :fingers-crossed:
I have a Sony Ericsson Xperia Play and since then im ok with it, but now i got a good deal for a Samsung Galaxy S3 Gt-i9300 (i was thinking of a getting the S5 but still waiting for every quirks to settle down) , so a stepping stone in the Samsung Direction, :laugh
Specs:
Samsung Galaxy S3 GT-i9300
Android ver. 4.0.4
its from United Arab Emirates
Status: i Rooted the Phone Using Sir Chainfires thread here ( For Root ) then i installed a CWM here ( For CWM ) ~
Questions:
1.) Is there a more simple way to Rooting and Installing a CWM?? (tips too)
2.) This phone has an Unlocked Bootloader, is it Possible to Lock it by FLashing a Stock ROM??
( i don't want to Lock it, i just want to know, cause some posts declare that their bootloaders got Locked when Flashing a Stock Rom)
Installing a Custom Rom for Xperia Play is usually Posted by the Creators of the Rom,set of Instructions on what Ver. of android you have to be on, and what Kernel your Suppose to be Using, so,
3.) Here in the Dev. Section, i don't see threads for Instructions for that, (it's kinda confusing for newbies) do I have to be on 4.2 to use a 4.2 Custom rom??
4.) Does the S3 have Custom Kernels?? should i Use custom kernels for S3??
5.) Differences of this SECTIONS??
Galaxy S III Android Development
Android development for the Samsung Galaxy S III
Galaxy S III Original Android Development
Original development for the Samsung Galaxy S III
I've red on some Threads that you Can't Revert Back to ICS if your on Kitkat (OFFICIAL ROM)
6.) can i Revert to ICS even though i upgraded to Kitkat or Jellybean?? (just downgrade to any Firmware i want)
Some Posts and Videos i saw have used Phone and CSC on their ODin
7.) What are those exactly (in layman's term) ?? and can someone link me to a nice guide of Odin (got a few but a bit complicated for me )
Some Threads say that i have to be in a certain Version of CWM for me to use it on a higher Ver. of Android
8.) how to tell what those Ver. of CWM for Certain Ver. of Android??
9.) is the method for Rooting ICS , JB and KitKat Different??
10.) Can my Old Titanium Backups work with Newer/Higher Ver. of android or ver. of Titanium Backup
that's it, any help and answers to this questions will be of Great Help, and links to would be Epic, THanks in ADvance, :victory:
Read all the sticky threads in general forum, all the important answers are there.
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shadowhog006 said:
Hello, Been A while since i logged in at XDA, ~ i have a few Noobish questions that are quite troublesome to find, ~ i did look at the forums, google and other sites, i have some answers but not generally what i was looking for, so might as well ask the Experts and maybe get some easier tips hehehe, :fingers-crossed:
I have a Sony Ericsson Xperia Play and since then im ok with it, but now i got a good deal for a Samsung Galaxy S3 Gt-i9300 (i was thinking of a getting the S5 but still waiting for every quirks to settle down) , so a stepping stone in the Samsung Direction, :laugh
Specs:
Samsung Galaxy S3 GT-i9300
Android ver. 4.0.4
its from United Arab Emirates
Status: i Rooted the Phone Using Sir Chainfires thread here ( For Root ) then i installed a CWM here ( For CWM ) ~
Questions:
1.) Is there a more simple way to Rooting and Installing a CWM?? (tips too)
2.) This phone has an Unlocked Bootloader, is it Possible to Lock it by FLashing a Stock ROM??
( i don't want to Lock it, i just want to know, cause some posts declare that their bootloaders got Locked when Flashing a Stock Rom)
Installing a Custom Rom for Xperia Play is usually Posted by the Creators of the Rom,set of Instructions on what Ver. of android you have to be on, and what Kernel your Suppose to be Using, so,
3.) Here in the Dev. Section, i don't see threads for Instructions for that, (it's kinda confusing for newbies) do I have to be on 4.2 to use a 4.2 Custom rom??
4.) Does the S3 have Custom Kernels?? should i Use custom kernels for S3??
5.) Differences of this SECTIONS??
Galaxy S III Android Development
Android development for the Samsung Galaxy S III
Galaxy S III Original Android Development
Original development for the Samsung Galaxy S III
I've red on some Threads that you Can't Revert Back to ICS if your on Kitkat (OFFICIAL ROM)
6.) can i Revert to ICS even though i upgraded to Kitkat or Jellybean?? (just downgrade to any Firmware i want)
Some Posts and Videos i saw have used Phone and CSC on their ODin
7.) What are those exactly (in layman's term) ?? and can someone link me to a nice guide of Odin (got a few but a bit complicated for me )
Some Threads say that i have to be in a certain Version of CWM for me to use it on a higher Ver. of Android
8.) how to tell what those Ver. of CWM for Certain Ver. of Android??
9.) is the method for Rooting ICS , JB and KitKat Different??
10.) Can my Old Titanium Backups work with Newer/Higher Ver. of android or ver. of Titanium Backup
that's it, any help and answers to this questions will be of Great Help, and links to would be Epic, THanks in ADvance, :victory:
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1) Try framaroot or cf auto root. Cwm just install zip and flash it after u root ur phone.
2) No, flashing roms will not lock ur bootloader. All instructions on how to flash the rom will be on their respective thread.
3) No, u do not need to be on the same android version to flash the rom.
4) Yes there are custom kernels for the s3 and its all on wat u wan.
5) Original is where the devs create the mod or rom and the one without original is the one where devs get the rom base from the original forum and edit it.
6) Once u are on 4.3, i advise u not to go back to previous android versions unless u know how to backup and restore efs. And 4.3 is btr than previous versions anyway.
7) There is a sticky the forum. Just update ur recovery to the newest and u will have no problems.
8) There is no versions of cwm limited to certain versions of android.
9) No, as i said, just try framaroot or use cf auto root.
10) Yes they will.
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JellyYogurt said:
1) Try framaroot or cf auto root. Cwm just install zip and flash it after u root ur phone.
2) No, flashing roms will not lock ur bootloader. All instructions on how to flash the rom will be on their respective thread.
3) No, u do not need to be on the same android version to flash the rom.
4) Yes there are custom kernels for the s3 and its all on wat u wan.
5) Original is where the devs create the mod or rom and the one without original is the one where devs get the rom base from the original forum and edit it.
6) Once u are on 4.3, i advise u not to go back to previous android versions unless u know how to backup and restore efs. And 4.3 is btr than previous versions anyway.
7) There is a sticky the forum. Just update ur recovery to the newest and u will have no problems.
8) There is no versions of cwm limited to certain versions of android.
9) No, as i said, just try framaroot or use cf auto root.
10) Yes they will.
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tnx for the answers and tips, cool, tnx for the EFS tip, ill check it out,
@boomboomer
i did red and checked the stickies and search the posts, like i said some are not conclusive 70/30, and some are even outdated (2011) how would a newbie know that "tools/methods" work still?? and some stickies are empty, literally , like i said at the beginning i did search those stuff before posting, tnx too though :highfive:
shadowhog006 said:
tnx for the answers and tips, cool, tnx for the EFS tip, ill check it out,
@boomboomer
i did red and checked the stickies and search the posts, like i said some are not conclusive 70/30, and some are even outdated (2011) how would a newbie know that "tools/methods" work still?? and some stickies are empty, literally , like i said at the beginning i did search those stuff before posting, tnx too though :highfive:
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First things first.
The efs is the most important, irreplaceable part of your phone that holds device specific information, with imei, sn, etc. It has 2 versions:
Efsv1 is present in all ics 4.0 firmwares and jb firmwares before 4.1.2 with baseband mg4.
Efsv2 is in all firmwares starting from jb 4.1.2 wirh baseband mg4.
Efsv1 can be converted to efsv2 by flashing. Efsv2 CANNOT be reverted to efsv1 unless you have a efsv1 backup.
So, first thing, use framaroot to root your ics firmware and make a backup of efsv1 using the ktool app (free on playstore). This is very important because if you update to efsv2 firmwares and ever want to downgrade to a efsv1 firmware you'll need that backup to keep the phone working. So keep that backup and copies of it stored in case you ever need it.
Also efsv1 can be network unlocked using galaxy sim unlock, free version in the app section, paid version in the playstore. But efsv2 cannot be unlocked through free hommade methods.
dxppxd said:
First things first.
The efs is the most important, irreplaceable part of your phone that holds device specific information, with imei, sn, etc. It has 2 versions:
Efsv1 is present in all ics 4.0 firmwares and jb firmwares before 4.1.2 with baseband mg4.
Efsv2 is in all firmwares starting from jb 4.1.2 wirh baseband mg4.
Efsv1 can be converted to efsv2 by flashing. Efsv2 CANNOT be reverted to efsv1 unless you have a efsv1 backup.
So, first thing, use framaroot to root your ics firmware and make a backup of efsv1 using the ktool app (free on playstore). This is very important because if you update to efsv2 firmwares and ever want to downgrade to a efsv1 firmware you'll need that backup to keep the phone working. So keep that backup and copies of it stored in case you ever need it.
Also efsv1 can be network unlocked using galaxy sim unlock, free version in the app section, paid version in the playstore. But efsv2 cannot be unlocked through free hommade methods.
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Awesome Info, i Did some research to and looked around the forums for guides , Thanks, im glad i didn't rush things to updated my FW, hehehe, :highfive:
~~Also efsv1 can be network unlocked using galaxy sim unlock, free version in the app section, paid version in the playstore. But efsv2 cannot be unlocked through free hommade methods~~
im guessing this is for those with phones with locked in carriers like verizon etc. right?? not a problem with international/unlocked ones ~ :good:
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shadowhog006 said:
Awesome Info, i Did some research to and looked around the forums for guides , Thanks, im glad i didn't rush things to updated my FW, hehehe, :highfive:
~~Also efsv1 can be network unlocked using galaxy sim unlock, free version in the app section, paid version in the playstore. But efsv2 cannot be unlocked through free hommade methods~~
im guessing this is for those with phones with locked in carriers like verizon etc. right?? not a problem with international/unlocked ones ~ :good:
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Well if u bought ur phone from a phone carrier then its the same. U cannot use sim cards from other carriers.
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