VZW and HTC act as if this phone doesn't exist - HTC Droid DNA

I've noticed that the DNA is NOT on the HTC website nor has Verizon done ANY TV Advertising for this phone. They normally swarm the airwaves when a new phone comes out, like they're doing right now with the HTC Windows Phone. Why is that? Is this like a "Test" phone to see if HTC will make a strong comeback with Verizon?

tdetroit said:
I've noticed that the DNA is NOT on the HTC website nor has Verizon done ANY TV Advertising for this phone. They normally swarm the airwaves when a new phone comes out, like they're doing right now with the HTC Windows Phone. Why is that? Is this like a "Test" phone to see if HTC will make a strong comeback with Verizon?
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Are you kidding me? Its right there on the front page of www.htc.com/us.
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Are you kidding me? Its right there on the front page of www.htc.com/us.
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Ok, THIS is strange. I just went to the HTC site about 20 minutes ago and there was NO mention of it....now-it is. Before anyone asks, yes, I cleared my cache. That answers that, but why hasn't VZW advertised this phone?

tdetroit said:
Ok, THIS is strange. I just went to the HTC site about 20 minutes ago and there was NO mention of it....now-it is. Before anyone asks, yes, I cleared my cache. That answers that, but why hasn't VZW advertised this phone?
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And here it is on Verizon's front page.
Twice. Once in the image, another with a link.
Another:
Then there is this:
http://droiddoes.verizonwireless.com/
I don't watch enough TV to see commercials, so I wouldn't know if they were playing or not.

I was thinking the same thing, even thought I DID see the DNA on VZW's website and on HTC's website, I saw not one TV ad for it, but have been seeing tons of TV and facebook ads for the Galaxy Note II... like yeah Verizon, THIS had ought to help HTC spring back, advertise ONLY the Note II when the Note II and DNA come out.. good going. lol

x70xchallengerx said:
I was thinking the same thing, even thought I DID see the DNA on VZW's website and on HTC's website, I saw not one TV ad for it, but have been seeing tons of TV and facebook ads for the Galaxy Note II... like yeah Verizon, THIS had ought to help HTC spring back, advertise ONLY the Note II when the Note II and DNA come out.. good going. lol
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THAT'S what I'm talking about....not a single TV ad. I remember when the Tbolt came out, they were running ads for almost a month and a week before it landed on VZW.

My Verizon store here in McKinney Texas is full blown DNA adverts all over the store replacing all droid razr adverts. But yet no tv or print media.
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adrynalyne said:
Are you kidding me? Its right there on the front page of www.htc.com/us.
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adryn... Wut it do homie?!

This isn't at all uncommon. Samsung sinks a ton of money into advertising. As does Apple. And it works. Even among my relatively technically savvy friends, they consistently think that the best device out there is going to be either Apple or Samsung. They are barely even aware of HTC. HTC needs a strong advertising campaign, and until they are willing to put money into that, they will never be as prominent as Samsung.
Quietly Brilliant.

tdetroit said:
Ok, THIS is strange. I just went to the HTC site about 20 minutes ago and there was NO mention of it....now-it is. Before anyone asks, yes, I cleared my cache. That answers that, but why hasn't VZW advertised this phone?
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Its been there since like a day after it was announced.
But its not on the international website, only the US site, for obvious reasons.
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SolusCado said:
This isn't at all uncommon. Samsung sinks a ton of money into advertising. As does Apple. And it works. Even among my relatively technically savvy friends, they consistently think that the best device out there is going to be either Apple or Samsung. They are barely even aware of HTC. HTC needs a strong advertising campaign, and until they are willing to put money into that, they will never be as prominent as Samsung.
Quietly Brilliant.
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imo they aren't really that tech savy if they judge things by tv commercials - most of which have no real specs in them. But yeah, HTC needs to advertise more. My Incredible wasn't advertised enough either.

The DNA looks like absolute crap on HTC's page for some reason.

Burn Stains said:
The DNA looks like absolute crap on HTC's page for some reason.
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Can you elaborate?

I went to every authorized vzw dealer in my town on black Friday. mybullfrog.com store, Verizon kiosk in the mall and two separate best buy mobil locations where literally none of the sales people had even heard off the DNA.. finally I broke down and went to our corporate vzw store ( I've had customer service issues with them) and even there the sales rep knew almost nothing about it but they did have it.. it did seem like they aren't hyping it like others have been.. Bionic was all over the media. Not sure if this is good,bad or if it even matters.. just an observation.. although I kinda had to educate the vzw rep on the phone which is a little funny.

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I went to every authorized vzw dealer in my town on black Friday. mybullfrog.com store, Verizon kiosk in the mall and two separate best buy mobil locations where literally none of the sales people had even heard off the DNA.. finally I broke down and went to our corporate vzw store ( I've had customer service issues with them) and even there the sales rep knew almost nothing about it but they did have it.. it did seem like they aren't hyping it like others have been.. Bionic was all over the media. Not sure if this is good,bad or if it even matters.. just an observation.. although I kinda had to educate the vzw rep on the phone which is a little funny.
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I've seen it happen with plenty of other phones I've had in the past. The LG Nitro HD and Samsung Infuse 4G both spring to mind. The Infuse 4G was the first phone with a 4.5" screen - kind of a Galaxy S1.5, and the Nitro HD was the first with a 1280x720 display. They were both fantastic phones that performed well, but never had much of a following because no one was talking about them (except me). When manufacturers put out something that is the first of something, they don't necessarily put a lot of money behind marketing it because the public may not buy into whatever they are selling - and if they create a lot of hype for something that falls flat it has a much worse influence on later products. It is a timid approach to be sure, and they will never topple Apple with that attitude, but it's a common approach nonetheless.
For us, the biggest issue is that it could impact developer support. Personally, I'd love to see a Viper ROM for this phone, but if not enough people get one, the Viper Devs may not bother.

That's a good point... I always tend to go after the "latest greatest tech" rather than what is "popular" haven't had a device officially supported by the cyanogen guys since the Droid 1 ha. I'd love to see more dev's getting on the DNA train but for once I am actually content with a phone as is (except the constant wifi notification and the bloatware) but I have fixed that with the mod's. I honestly would be okay with not having any aosp roms or even custom sense roms at this point... I am very happy with this phone.
One thing I am seeing more and more though is how some apps seem to react weird to the screen resolution. Not a huge deal but it is definitely something I could see people freaking out about had HTC really boosted the hype of this device.. All in all I am glad I got the DNA, as long as stock updates (android 4.2... Etc.) don't take too long, like many HTC devices do, I will be very happy with this phone

Yep.
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Absolutely.
I do not like the lighting on the phone. Makes the phone appear to be made of glossy plastic on the front. Also, the display looks like a cheap sticker on the front. I know the shot is not of the actual phone, but it does the actual display no justice.
Basically, if I saw this press shot when this device was being rumored, I would not have got as excited as I did with other leaked shots. Just a personal indifference.

SolusCado said:
I've seen it happen with plenty of other phones I've had in the past. The LG Nitro HD and Samsung Infuse 4G both spring to mind. The Infuse 4G was the first phone with a 4.5" screen - kind of a Galaxy S1.5, and the Nitro HD was the first with a 1280x720 display. They were both fantastic phones that performed well, but never had much of a following because no one was talking about them (except me). When manufacturers put out something that is the first of something, they don't necessarily put a lot of money behind marketing it because the public may not buy into whatever they are selling - and if they create a lot of hype for something that falls flat it has a much worse influence on later products. It is a timid approach to be sure, and they will never topple Apple with that attitude, but it's a common approach nonetheless.
For us, the biggest issue is that it could impact developer support. Personally, I'd love to see a Viper ROM for this phone, but if not enough people get one, the Viper Devs may not bother.
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Actually the Rezound was the frist 720p device by a few weeks and HTC website and the VZW stores were going crazy. There display model had a huge sign over it with the specs with beats and 720p in bold along with an over ear beats headset next to it for you to try out beats. Why can't they do that with the DNA. Even the One X got a lot of advertising. I think it is VZW that really is in control with all this.

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Actually the Rezound was the frist 720p device by a few weeks and HTC website and the VZW stores were going crazy. There display model had a huge sign over it with the specs with beats and 720p in bold along with an over ear beats headset next to it for you to try out beats. Why can't they do that with the DNA. Even the One X got a lot of advertising. I think it is VZW that really is in control with all this.
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Good call. I always had a tendency to dismiss Verizon's wares because they used to lag behind what was available on GSM networks. (I used to just import all my phones from overseas, since they would come out there months, and sometimes even years, before they made it over here.)

I believe VZW is down playing HTC devices now in general. After the Thunderbolt and ReZound debacles. No upgrades/long waits for upgrades. (More VZW's fault than HTC's...) Mediocre if not bad battery life stock. Truthfully I think HTC devices have been a headache of sorts for VZW minus the Incredible series. I just think VZW tech support is happier if more people owned more "user friendly" phones instead of lots of people owning HTC phones complaining about battery life, heat issues, slow/late updates, or just plain lack of updates. HTC is possibly tired of VZW as well. VZW not picking up the One series and stalling updates to add bloat or tweaks to already released phones doesn't help. HTC's Facebook page was getting pummeled with request for information on updates for the T-Bolt and ReZound, but even with VZW in control most people painted HTC as the bad guy.
Plus business-wise is supporting a hurting company like HTC a good investment if you can make more promising investments on thriving comapnies like Samsung and Motorola? If HTC does go under it won't hurt VZW one bit, so why would they care.

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Epic Touch 4G (A.K.A: Galaxy S II) set for Sept. 9th release

So, with the chance of getting flamed or... flaming myself depending on the reaction to this. SprintFeed apparently got word that the Galaxy S II will be hitting Sprint first, on September 9th, ahead of all other carriers.
http://www.sprintfeed.com/2011/08/rumor-samsung-epic-touch-4g-releasing-september-9th/
There is the link.
Just thought any defectors would like the heads up. I personally am sticking with my 3Devo.
From the screenshots it looks to be the same phone. No concrete answer on if it's packing a Snapdragon which had been rumored or if it's sticking with Exynos. *Shrug* guess we shall find out.
Awesome, can't wait. Jk Samsung sucks.
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Damn Sprint is on a roll. Hopefully they get the Nexus Prime when it comes out. That's the only phone I'm interested in. The GS2 should of came out earlier. Samsung waited to long in my opinion, But nevertheless Sprint has a good line up this year.
demo27vol1 said:
Damn Sprint is on a roll. Hopefully they get the Nexus Prime when it comes out. That's the only phone I'm interested in. The GS2 should of came out earlier. Samsung waited to long in my opinion, But nevertheless Sprint has a good line up this year.
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Yeah, the only reason I can see why they waited was because of the pressure from Apple and it's "your phone looks like mah phone!" 6-year old meltdown of a lawsuit that has been going on. I dunno.
Any defectors are probably hanging out in the sgs2 forum where apparently the op needs to be.
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swaze said:
Any defectors are probably hanging out in the sgs2 forum where apparently the op needs to be.
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Oh snap you got me!.
Wow, I was all "general information" and you were like "Eat it, OP!"
and I was like "Oh snap!"
I was going to go the SGS2 route but it's just too little too late. The E3D in modded form can outpace a stock SGS2 easily...and the nPrime is right around the corner.
I used to love HTC and I've really grown to like the E3D General forum, y'all is cool peoples (most of the time)...but aside from the unlock fiasco I can't stand the ****ty radio and the strange behavior when powering on/off really makes me feel like one day it won't turn back on again....especially when I've seen it happen right in front of me.
...but I sure as hell will not post a thread here about it. Nothin' personal OP, just sayin'...
About time
daneurysm said:
I was going to go the SGS2 route but it's just too little too late. The E3D in modded form can outpace a stock SGS2 easily...and the nPrime is right around the corner.
I used to love HTC and I've really grown to like the E3D General forum, y'all is cool peoples (most of the time)...but aside from the unlock fiasco I can't stand the ****ty radio and the strange behavior when powering on/off really makes me feel like one day it won't turn back on again....especially when I've seen it happen right in front of me.
...but I sure as hell will not post a thread here about it. Nothin' personal OP, just sayin'...
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Well, I know a lot of people aren't happy with the Evo 3D, I decided to drop this nugget and see how it went. Like I said, I'm happy with my evo. My Radios don't suck too bad, only thing I have issue with is a Black SOD every 9hrs when using a custom kernel... which I can workaround with a stock kernel.
You're post is a little confusing. so... you're waiting for the nPrime?. that's how it sounded. That's looking to be an October release, it's being made by Samsung too. Which I find odd, I would think Motorola would be involved. I know it was just recently announced that Google was going to buy them, but...I assumed it was in the making to be some big lead up. oh well, probably next year.
I'd think I'd like it more if it didn't look like the iPhone had a retarded son.
felacio said:
You're post is a little confusing. so...
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You're confusing. And your justification for starting this thread is unfounded.
Yea another Samsung phone post in the Evo3d forum, to me its just trolling, and by page 5 it'll turn into another htc vs samsung tech flame fest.
felacio said:
Well, I know a lot of people aren't happy with the Evo 3D, I decided to drop this nugget and see how it went. Like I said, I'm happy with my evo. My Radios don't suck too bad, only thing I have issue with is a Black SOD every 9hrs when using a custom kernel... which I can workaround with a stock kernel.
You're post is a little confusing. so... you're waiting for the nPrime?. that's how it sounded. That's looking to be an October release, it's being made by Samsung too. Which I find odd, I would think Motorola would be involved. I know it was just recently announced that Google was going to buy them, but...I assumed it was in the making to be some big lead up. oh well, probably next year.
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Thank god I don't get the Black SOD...
Yeah, I'm waiting for the nPrime. It's being made by Samsung which, while at first really put me off but I did sport an NS4G for a few weeks last month. Aside from feeling cheap and too light--which most people wouldn't see as a down side--it was actually a fantastic phone. Great battery life, phenomenal camera and an unmatched Android experience. It did have the traditionally weak Samsung radio, but, it seems that you can't escape that anymore.
...and so far as Motorola is concerned Google has assured it's partners that the bidding process for the Nexus line would in fact remain the same. Google is saying all but "listen, we bought MMi for the patents. The Set-top-box and mobile manufacturing is just a plus, that we don't intend to use." Of course time will tell how true that is. For the time being I believe them.
However a Motorola built Nexus would probably be fantastic as long as they ditch that ****ty Pentile screen technology. I bet they would have class leading radios and battery life too.
daneurysm said:
Thank god I don't get the Black SOD...
Yeah, I'm waiting for the nPrime. It's being made by Samsung which, while at first really put me off but I did sport an NS4G for a few weeks last month. Aside from feeling cheap and too light--which most people wouldn't see as a down side--it was actually a fantastic phone. Great battery life, phenomenal camera and an unmatched Android experience. It did have the traditionally weak Samsung radio, but, it seems that you can't escape that anymore.
...and so far as Motorola is concerned Google has assured it's partners that the bidding process for the Nexus line would in fact remain the same. Google is saying all but "listen, we bought MMi for the patents. The Set-top-box and mobile manufacturing is just a plus, that we don't intend to use." Of course time will tell how true that is. For the time being I believe them.
However a Motorola built Nexus would probably be fantastic as long as they ditch that ****ty Pentile screen technology. I bet they would have class leading radios and battery life too.
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Yea MOTO isn't far from being a great phone manufacturer..they do have pretty good build quality and their radios are bar none..they have been in that game for a while..ditch all MOTO blur or map and the pentile..add some Google magic and we could have a winner in a few months.
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Yea another Samsung phone post in the Evo3d forum, to me its just trolling, and by page 5 it'll turn into another htc vs samsung tech flame fest.
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ME?.. troll?!..
how dare you make such accusations, sir!
Well, if (when) that happens, I'll be on the HTC side. totally didn't mean for it turn into a Vs. thread if (when) that happens. should I edit my initial post and say how stupid Samsung and the SGS2 is or just wait? lol
firmbiz94 said:
Yea MOTO isn't far from being a great phone manufacturer..they do have pretty good build quality and their radios are bar none..they have been in that game for a while..ditch all MOTO blur or map and the pentile..add some Google magic and we could have a winner in a few months.
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Agreed. Their designs are a bit stodgy looking, but their hardware (aside from those horrible screens and penchant for keyboards) is rock solid. They nearly invented cellular mobile phone technology. They have been doing mobile communications for as long as there has been a commercial mobile communications market. Their radios are fantastic. Build quality is always awesome. How many OG Droids do you still see around? Tons...and I have seen a lot that are beaten to death physically but still kicking ass, 2nd hand, 3rd hand...that says quite a bit.
Without knowing anything about the contents of their patent portfolio I am confident that it contains thousands of very relevant patents. I can't wait to see Google's next move.
I came from the Epic 4G to the Evo 3D. The main thing about Samsung was there slowwwwww release of updates. The Epic 4G rolled out with Eclair, took a while to get Froyo and is still awaiting Gingerbread. This really seem slow down ROM and kernel development. HTC seems pretty spot on with their OS updates.
I am waiting to see if Samsung support for their phones has improved. If it has, maybe I would consider going back. Until then, my Evo 3D is the shizzle.
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ME?.. troll?!..
how dare you make such accusations, sir.
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ME?.. troll?!..
how dare you make such accusations, sir!
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[OFFICIAL] Review's Thread

Since we all seen a bunch a review threads floating around. I'm going to provide links to some of the current reviews.
AndroidCentral- http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-htc-evo-4g-lte-review
The Verge- http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/11/3012990/htc-evo-4g-lte-review
Phone Arena- http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-EVO-4G-LTE-Review_id3030
Engadget- http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/10/htc-evo-4g-lte-for-sprint-review/
laptopmag http://www.laptopmag.com/review/smartphone/htc_evo_4glte_sprint.aspx
Slashgear- http://www.slashgear.com/htc-evo-4g-lte-review-11227839/
PCWorld- http://www.pcworld.com/article/255517/htc_evo_4g_lte_review_gorgeous_but_no_lte_for_now.html
PhoneDog- http://www.phonedog.com/videos/htc-e...review-part-1/
http://www.phonedog.com/videos/htc-e...review-part-2/
Pocketlint- http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/5870/htc-evo-4g-lte-phone-review
Android Police- http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...view-sometimes-the-ugly-ones-try-the-hardest/
BGR- http://www.bgr.com/2012/05/16/htc-evo-4g-lte-review-sprint-android/
GSMARENA http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_4g_lte-review-762.php
PhoneScoop- http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=10427
Pocketnow- http://pocketnow.com/2012/05/22/sprint-htc-evo-4g-lte-review/
TechRadar- http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-evo-4g-lte-1081371/review
GoodandEvo- http://www.goodandevo.net/2012/05/review-htc-evo-4g-lte-for-sprint.html#more
I'll add androidcentral and anandtech if and when they release it.
After reading some of these reviews I think I just need to wait until Anandtech's. Engadget's review was pitiful.
NICE! Glad to see someone do this!
might just Stick this up there temp for the time being and funnel all others in here if they pop up for a month or so till the review craze is over...
Just have to keep the OP updated is all.
Here is a link to Android Police's Review - > http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...view-sometimes-the-ugly-ones-try-the-hardest/
Gotta love reviews and the fact that they really are just opinions of the person reviewing it. It's an interesting read nonetheless. Couple of things I take out of it;
1. Just like everyone else including most of us, we all liked the look of the One X and he really hates that Sprint and HTC deviated from that. Especially the top plastic cover. Personally spends too much time complaining about the design decisions.
2. He also really likes stock Android and hates Sense. Again shares some of the common complaints such as the recent apps menu being different than stock and the software menu button. Also interestingly complains about bloatware but realistically there is only one app that should be considered bloatware and thats Sprint Zone. Every other app he mentions comes stock on every other HTC phone. And lets face it every carrier uses their own visual voicemail and hotspot apps, the latter being to have control over tethering. Also call me crazy but he complains about Sense not being landscape but I have landscape Sense running a 4.0 rom and I'm pretty sure that was one of the added features to 4.0.
Either way everything is subjective and it makes for an interesting read as long as you objectively respect he is entitled to his opinion and it is in fact that his opinion. For me it flirts close to the line of knitpicking each and everything that goes against what the reviewer prefers and is accustomed to.
Cordy said:
Here is a link to Android Police's Review - > http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...view-sometimes-the-ugly-ones-try-the-hardest/
Gotta love reviews and the fact that they really are just opinions of the person reviewing it. It's an interesting read nonetheless. Couple of things I take out of it;
1. Just like everyone else including most of us, we all liked the look of the One X and he really hates that Sprint and HTC deviated from that. Especially the top plastic cover. Personally spends too much time complaining about the design decisions.
2. He also really likes stock Android and hates Sense. Again shares some of the common complaints such as the recent apps menu being different than stock and the software menu button. Also interestingly complains about bloatware but realistically there is only one app that should be considered bloatware and thats Sprint Zone. Every other app he mentions comes stock on every other HTC phone. And lets face it every carrier uses their own visual voicemail and hotspot apps, the latter being to have control over tethering.
Either way everything is subjective and it makes for an interesting read as long as you objectively respect he is entitled to his opinion and it is in fact that his opinion. For me it flirts close to the line of knitpicking each and everything that goes against what the reviewer prefers and is accustomed to.
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Thanks man added the link to the op. Which would spark a very noob question. What does OP stand for?
Most the reviews I seen thought sense was either ok or just terrible. Phil from androidcentral seem to be one of the few that actually liked it over stock android. Me personally I haven't use sense 4 yet but I'm impatiently waiting.
I'll try to keep the OP is up to date as I can which shouldn't be hard considering I'm graduating High School Friday. So I have nothing but time until August.
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Thanks man added the link to the op. Which would spark a very noob question. What does OP stand for?
Most the reviews I seen thought sense was either ok or just terrible. Phil from androidcentral seem to be one of the few that actually liked it over stock android. Me personally I haven't use sense 4 yet but I'm impatiently waiting.
I'll try to keep the OP is up to date as I can which shouldn't be hard considering I'm graduating High School Friday. So I have nothing but time until August.
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OP stands for Original Post(er).
Yeah most reviewers dislike Sense compared to Stock however even the most anti Sense reviewers have stated that Sense 4 is a lot better than previous iterations and end up enjoying it even if they aren't crazy about it. I know we all have our personal preferences but facts are the only true Stock phone is a Nexus phone. Every manufacturer puts a skin on their phone. It's just something people will need to accept. So depending on which skin you like the most you should choose your phone accordingly. If you like stock buy a Nexus. It's easy for these reviewers to complain though cause they get these phones handed to them rather than going out and buying them in most cases.
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Added BGR and Pocketlint for the hell of it.
Pocketlint really didnt review much.
Cordy said:
Here is a link to Android Police's Review - > http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...view-sometimes-the-ugly-ones-try-the-hardest/
Gotta love reviews and the fact that they really are just opinions of the person reviewing it. It's an interesting read nonetheless. Couple of things I take out of it;
1. Just like everyone else including most of us, we all liked the look of the One X and he really hates that Sprint and HTC deviated from that. Especially the top plastic cover. Personally spends too much time complaining about the design decisions.
2. He also really likes stock Android and hates Sense. Again shares some of the common complaints such as the recent apps menu being different than stock and the software menu button. Also interestingly complains about bloatware but realistically there is only one app that should be considered bloatware and thats Sprint Zone. Every other app he mentions comes stock on every other HTC phone. And lets face it every carrier uses their own visual voicemail and hotspot apps, the latter being to have control over tethering. Also call me crazy but he complains about Sense not being landscape but I have landscape Sense running a 4.0 rom and I'm pretty sure that was one of the added features to 4.0.
Either way everything is subjective and it makes for an interesting read as long as you objectively respect he is entitled to his opinion and it is in fact that his opinion. For me it flirts close to the line of knitpicking each and everything that goes against what the reviewer prefers and is accustomed to.
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Well All I can say from my memory about that review is that who the F is going to be watching the back cover, Most people don't go around showing their phones from the back. His biggest gripe about the back is moot since the phone will probably be in a case, or mainly viewed from the "FRONT". ROFL what a joke review.
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Well All I can say from my memory about that review is that who the F is going to be watching the back cover, Most people don't go around showing their phones from the back. His biggest gripe about the back is moot since the phone will probably be in a case, or mainly viewed from the "FRONT". ROFL what a joke review.
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That's true but some people have different needs than others so if his is having a fashionable phone then you got to respect that
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GSM arena's review is out:
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A review that actually doesn't hold the EVO 4G LTE at fault for the shortcomings of the Sprint network.
The HTC Evo 4G LTE is undoubtedly the best-spec'd smartphone currently on offer in the United States. The flagship handset offers all the latest smartphone tech in a neat, well-built package.
There has rarely been an easier smartphone to recommend in the United States. HTC and Sprint have created a package that's incredibly hard to resist, and the purchase of which you are extremely unlikely to regret. We actually feel sorry that HTC didn't choose this design for the internationally available One XL, instead of the AT&T version.
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GSM arena's review is out:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_4g_lte-review-762.php
A review that actually doesn't hold the EVO 4G LTE at fault for the shortcomings of the Sprint network.
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It was a nice detailed review.
That is the biggest knock on the evo in the reviews that it didn't have a 4g network.
You can't fault the HTC for that. Now customs need to stop bullshiting and let it be release.
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Nice review, but they call the phone a One X at least twice that I saw, haha. Can't wait to see how great the battery life really is!
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There's a pretty in depth review on phonescoop too.
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=10427
I'm bothered by the comments under the sound section. Sure I use the phone for data, but i use it just as much for calls (using the ear piece). Will have to wait for some demo phones at stores before truly committing to the purchase.
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There's a pretty in depth review on phonescoop too.
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=10427
I'm bothered by the comments under the sound section. Sure I use the phone for data, but i use it just as much for calls (using the ear piece). Will have to wait for some demo phones at stores before truly committing to the purchase.
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Most reviewers have said the sound was good enough for calls. Nothing spectacular but good nonetheless
I played with a GN at a sprint store the other day. Thought the volume was very loud and clear on a call to 611. Phonescoop's review of that phone also finds the sound quality lacking. I will definitely have to test the thing out before trading in my old evo. I expect the sound quality to be at least as loud/clear (running cm7 with the audio boosted kernel).
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I played with a GN at a sprint store the other day. Thought the volume was very loud and clear on a call to 611. Phonescoop's review of that phone also finds the sound quality lacking. I will definitely have to test the thing out before trading in my old evo. I expect the sound quality to be at least as loud/clear (running cm7 with the audio boosted kernel).
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I think some people are to big of audiofiles and want perfect sound out of a cellphone lol as long as its loud n doesn't sound like a half blown speaker or something I'm happy lol want better sound get a BT
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Some of the reviewers that bash Sprint seem to be biased against Sprint. The phone should be evaluated not the network that it arrives on. Yes, a note should be made about network performance, but if the phone is a 10 dock .5-1.0 for that issue instead of going off in tangents about it just list it as a con!
IMHO the nay sayer's for Sprint will be jumping ship to come aboard when NV starts to launch on Sprint by months end.
It's amazing how these professional reviewers try so hard to find fault with android phones, yet fall over themselves praising the iPhone.
This is the phone they should have released globally.
Pocketnow and Techradar review is up.
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Some of the reviewers that bash Sprint seem to be biased against Sprint. The phone should be evaluated not the network that it arrives on. Yes, a note should be made about network performance, but if the phone is a 10 dock .5-1.0 for that issue instead of going off in tangents about it just list it as a con!
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I find this to be an extremely accurate statement.
When I see a review for a phone all I care about is the phone, not the network the phone is on. I'm aware of the networks of each carrier and I am aware of the pros/cons of each.
For what it's worth I spend a majority of the time on Wi-Fi networks and get great network reliability.

My thoughts on VZW & HTC

Flame if you want. When I read today's article on Droid-Life.com I had to unload. I have absolutely no expectation of this update being released anytime soon or, frankly, ever.
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I don't really disagree with your assessment. Over the last year and a half vzw has turned into att lite, and HTC has just screwed its customers every chance it has gotten. It left the EVO view/flyer, jetstream on their current buggy ass builds of hc, they've might as well given up on updating their phones, as they wait so bloody long to do so, then they have bowed to vzws every demand. I will definitely be leaving both Verizon and HTC at the end of the year when the new nexus device hits. (assuming it does hit then) to me it seems like vzw got the iphone and immediately quit worrying about how to bring in new customers and keep their current ones happy. I'm probably going to go to tmo and stick with unlocked unbranded phones.
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Just because you put a custom rom on doesn't me it voided your warranty its a possibility but not a guarantee if you know what your doing. I agree with most your points, but I got the phone for $150 off CL (because he wanted an ics device instead, LOL) so not only did I get a great deal on a mint condition phone because it didn't have ics on it but then I went home and slapped it on myself from xda. So in a way I kinda like that Verizon/Htc hasn't released ics yet. Plus its cool knowing your one of only a few thousand people that have a rezound with ics. I just wished the would give up the source code for the kernel already.
At this point the only way I'm buying another HTC phone is if it is a Nexus device. After coming from the Motorola "OG" Droid, I can't stand the indifference these companies seem to have towards us. If HTC would've been more communicative with us, telling us what is going on instead of giving us some vague release date, I might've given them some credit.
Poop!
I consider that neither immature nor irrational.
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At this point the only way I'm buying another HTC phone is if it is a Nexus device. After coming from the Motorola "OG" Droid, I can't stand the indifference these companies seem to have towards us. If HTC would've been more communicative with us, telling us what is going on instead of giving us some vague release date, I might've given them some credit.
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Yeah that's the boat on in. I love my rezound but... I need a nexus in my life or something.
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It doesn't matter if this was a Samsung, Motorola, or LG, all companys treat their customers this way. Seems to be an industry standard. All big red does is interfere with this further with all the bloat they require. All I'm saying is HTC is not unique in how they handle themselves. I started with a Samsung Omnia (windows based), then got a Fascinate, Charge, and now Rezound. The Rezound is hands down the best phone I've had. Both the Fascinate and Charge suffered radio problems and if you read the Nexus forums they complain about the same thing. This also steered me away from the SGIII. Still a Samsung product.
Just my 2 cents......
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It doesn't matter if this was a Samsung, Motorola, or LG, all companys treat their customers this way. Seems to be an industry standard. All big red does is interfere with this further with all the bloat they require. All I'm saying is HTC is not unique in how they handle themselves. I started with a Samsung Omnia (windows based), then got a Fascinate, Charge, and now Rezound. The Rezound is hands down the best phone I've had. Both the Fascinate and Charge suffered radio problems and if you read the Nexus forums they complain about the same thing. This also steered me away from the SGIII. Still a Samsung product.
Just my 2 cents......
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While I agree that the rezzy is by far the best, I still wish I hadn't further supported HTC due to the way they are handling the tablet issue, and now the updates on the Rezound. And honestly I don't hold my breath for us getting jb. Honestly I think it will be like the tbolt is right now with Ics. Just a functional rom without a cellular modem. Which is sad given how incredibly much I like the phone itself. But the only way to get (insert mobile headset maker here) attention is to stop buying their products they won't support once they leave the shelf. And Verizon lost me when they axed unlimited data grandfathering. But then won't give me a discount for not buying a subsidized device. (ala tmo) so, I just can't continue to support companies that continually screw us the customer over.
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Why do people get so "angry" or "furious" because there's no software update and says the manufacturer is horrible? Last time I checked the rezound cane out of the box with everything working. It's funny how people want everything....patience is key.
The update is a luxury not a necessity. Should I get mad at Microsoft because Windows 8 isn't out officially. The product they already released does everything I need for the time being.
Also, why would you want a company to rush a product? Try rushing your barber to finish your haircut quickly and see what happens. It seems very childish to get mad at a manufacturer for a SIMPLE update that is coming SOON.
The people of today...always wanting everything NOW.
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I think some of it is symptomatic of the market. Handset makers are pushing out new devices every 4 to 6 months, and it stops being cost effective to update them all. Which sucks for us, but it makes good business sense.
If they would only push out source, RIL included, it just wouldn't matter.
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Why do people get so "angry" or "furious" because there's no software update and says the manufacturer is horrible? Last time I checked the rezound cane out of the box with everything working. It's funny how people want everything....patience is key.
The update is a luxury not a necessity. Should I get mad at Microsoft because Windows 8 isn't out officially. The product they already released does everything I need for the time being.
Also, why would you want a company to rush a product? Try rushing your barber to finish your haircut quickly and see what happens. It seems very childish to get mad at a manufacturer for a SIMPLE update that is coming SOON.
The people of today...always wanting everything NOW.
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All that you're saying sounds good and all but that argument is tired. If htc says we're giving ics, we expect it. And with barbers you see progress and know it's happening. You don't see him pausing your haircut after telling you 2pm to go work on someone elses and then coming back to your at damn near 1:58. Or him giving you a fresh haircut then ignoring you after you ask him to touch up your hairline after you paid him.
*kicks soapbox from under feet*
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Flame if you want. When I read today's article on Droid-Life.com I had to unload. I have absolutely no expectation of this update being released anytime soon or, frankly, ever.
Feel free to submit your thoughtful replies. Immature, irrational comments will be ignored.
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I was one of the ones that up-voted it yesterday!
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Why do people get so "angry" or "furious" because there's no software update and says the manufacturer is horrible? ... Should I get mad at Microsoft because Windows 8 isn't out officially.
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It's the whole thing of lying to the consumers that pisses people off, not necessarily the lack of updates IMO. If HTC had never mentioned that we were getting ICS there wouldn't be so much *****ing and moaning because people wouldn't expect it. When I got the Rezound back in November, I was told that it would have it by January. Here we are almost 8 months later with still no update. HTC has had it ready for months but Verizon refuses to push it out until they're ready. It's not the same thing as your Windows 8 analogy because the transition from Windows 7 to Windows 8 is paid for. It'd be more like you buy a computer with Windows 7 and a few months down the road your PC manufacturer says "We're not going to release any new drivers for your hardware, sorry." then MS says "We're not going to release any updates to Windows 7 for you anymore, sorry. Please buy Windows 8 to get the latest bug fixes."
I gotta say HTC and Verizon really ****ed this up. I've had good experiences with HTC before, but they are just so Hit-or-miss that it isnt even funny. Verizon... POS. Come november when my contract is over, I'm going to get whatever is the next nexus device (if its HTC then awesome) on AT&T
I don't really care for the official ICS because I am already enjoying ICS with sense 4 with Newts One XxX. However, it pisses me off to see that the rezound is still without official ICS. I don't think anything can justify this, other than than Verizon trying to promote other phones and not caring about a phone because it was not branded "Droid". The Droid razor already has ICS and I dont see why the Rezound still waiting. And what's more frustrating is the silence of the two companies... They simply don't care about what the customers think...
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I would have to say the rezound has been the worst experience I have ever had with a HTC phone. It seems that since the HTC One series drop nothing else matters to HTC. I hate to say it but this may very well be my last HTC handset. I need a phone that I can compile the source on my own I guess.
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I see a lot of blame on Verizon but I don't believe (and I maybe wrong) any other HTC handsets have ICS either like the EVO3D (were I came from).
Why even push an update now that isn't even an update? It needs to have sense 4, IMO that would make it worth the wait, and get customers more excited and loyal towards HTC products. But nope. Gonna be sense 3.6 lol. Meh w/e they have been shooting themselves in the foot lately. All of them have in a way. Samsung used to be terrible with updates but not so much anymore... Their phones are just iffy, radios and such...
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Revolutions started on twitters, yet we cant for some reason beyond me, get together and mass tweet @htc and @htc usa , come one people instead of having discussions here lets tweet left and right about it.
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Revolutions started on twitters, yet we cant for some reason beyond me, get together and mass tweet @htc and @htc usa , come one people instead of having discussions here lets tweet left and right about it.
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Seriously? Wow...let them keep working on it, I would rather have it bugless. Now I can see why people are strict about not asking for ETAs for their roms.
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Seriously? Wow...let them keep working on it, I would rather have it bugless. Now I can see why people are strict about not asking for ETAs for their roms.
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I don't think they are working on anything. Con247 believes that the last leak was the final version. If he is correct then they (probably Verizon) have been just sitting on it. That to me would be total BS.
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I don't think they are working on anything. Con247 believes that the last leak was the final version. If he is correct then they (probably Verizon) have been just sitting on it. That to me would be total BS.
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Oh I'm almost 100% sure Verizon is the MAIN problem. HTC has probably had it done for quite some time now but I'm sure Verizon keeps rejecting and making them lock stuff down more, while promoting other phones in the meantime. This last leak is almost perfect, and how long have we had it now?

Look at this bull****...

See, this is what I'm talking about here, HTC and their lies and bull****. The EVO LTE is the One X, yet, we have no ****ing 4.0.4 while EVERY OTHER US variant does. Well, that's the last damn straw with me... Proceeding to harass GPL off this bull****.
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It's definitely a bummer.
I'm happy w my EVO LTE. Not happy with HTCs way of handling things as a business. They fail to support their customers lol.
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typhoonikan said:
It's definitely a bummer.
I'm happy w my EVO LTE. Not happy with HTCs way of handling things as a business. They fail to support their customers lol.
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Some guy had the nerve to try and say I'm out of control. HTC is scrambling and losing because of bull**** post purchase service. If htc suddenly said "**** it, w need money so we are providing a universal s-off tool, BUT IT WILL VOID WARRANTY" people would buy the phones so damn fast it'll be like the itc hold up again. Samsung doesn't care about root and thats why they sale. Not to mention bull**** advertising by HTC. Yea, advertise beats audio with a guy running to bull**** music, let's forget slcd2 screen, beast specs & huge screen. Man, ass backwards, I won't be surprised if **** phone 5 doesn't smoke whatever bull crap phone htc is releasing next.
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Welcome back
Looks like I need to create a fake FB to troll HTC harder.
I hate having this techy stuff pop up on my friends feed
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Dude I'm so pissed with HTC and noobs are defending them like The LTEVO isn't riddled with bugs and the One X wasn't rushed and basically a "test" model.
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Who wants 4.0.4? I am getting ready for my favorite dessert, Jelly Bean.
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You guys get pissed about the dumbest things.... Just because its a higher version, doesn't mean its better. Chill out, sprint has something to do about it as well
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You guys get pissed about the dumbest things.... Just because its a higher version, doesn't mean its better. Chill out, sprint has something to do about it as well
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Dude, don't come in here trying to flame bait up the thread. Your probably non confrontational anyways, that seems to be the norm around here
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Dude, don't come in here trying to flame bait up the thread. Your probably non confrontational anyways, that seems to be the norm around here
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Hey man. Keep fighting the good fight. We are behind you. I have been writing emails and posting on facebook walls. Doing what I can.
Eh, I don't know why you guys expect us to get everything the One X gets. Yes, the two phones are similar, but they have different development paths and different carriers.
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Eh, I don't know why you guys expect us to get everything the One X gets. Yes, the two phones are similar, but they have different development paths and different carriers.
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the one x has been out just a couple of months before
you must be real daft to not expect support for such a new phone
this phone just came out a couple months ago, wouldnt you expect a frikking update just like the one x too?
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Some guy had the nerve to try and say I'm out of control. HTC is scrambling and losing because of bull**** post purchase service. If htc suddenly said "**** it, w need money so we are providing a universal s-off tool, BUT IT WILL VOID WARRANTY" people would buy the phones so damn fast it'll be like the itc hold up again. Samsung doesn't care about root and thats why they sale. Not to mention bull**** advertising by HTC. Yea, advertise beats audio with a guy running to bull**** music, let's forget slcd2 screen, beast specs & huge screen. Man, ass backwards, I won't be surprised if **** phone 5 doesn't smoke whatever bull crap phone htc is releasing next.
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HTC isn't losing much at all from not upgrading their phones. The majority of Android users will not understand or care about version numbers. Android is no longer something for just "nerds" like us. It has the largest market share of any mobile OS. HTC is losing money because they don't have lower end phones, and also because the name isn't as well known as Samsung or Apple in the US.
1) HTC cannot guarantee an update window without being sure of it. With this update being new, they will still have to go through Sprint and all of that before it gets to us. HTC probably has no way of knowing how long it will take, so they aren't giving us any sort of ETA.
2) This phone will obviously receive the update. That shouldn't even be questioned. It is essentially the same phone as the One X, but locked down to a single carrier. This most likely makes us the last priority because we are the smallest group. The One X is available in many more areas than the Evo is. HTC probably wants to get through the biggest group first and then focus on us.
3) You're being unnecessarily angry. The update was just released TODAY, meaning that it probably won't even be on every One X for a few days at least. Just because some HTC drone paid to avoid giving you answers told you on Facebook that they don't have any information to share with you doesn't mean we will be waiting a month for this update to come. Could we have to wait that long? Yes. But there is no proof that we will.
4) The current update we are on with this phone is good. The phone itself works fine. Why do we need this update instantly? Would you prefer HTC rush it out and have to deal with bugs? Why would you want to do that? If it isn't ready for release yet, then you just have to deal with that. Pestering them on Facebook isn't going to get them to go any faster. Spamming them with e-mails probably isn't going to either. There is no legally binding document that says they have to release this update. They will though.
Honestly, it is common sense that we will see this update in the future. When will we see it? We don't know. But to go on an expletive filled tirade just because HTC doesn't have a bone to throw at you on the first day that the update is available on carriers that are much less restrictive than Sprint is just immature and unnecessary.
Newsflash: it's easier to update a phone when you don't have to go through carriers. Also, upgrading phones outside of the US is much easier because a lot of less restrictive carriers. It'll happen, but HTC had to focus on one or the other first, and common sense says we weren't chosen because we're the smaller group.
Exactly..and they have pretty much the same software besides the bloat apps..but believe me they are not very happy either..devs are leaving and the bootloaders are locked up tighter than a nuns ass...I don't understand HTCs intentions but it could all be fixed with one simple upload of source
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the one x has been out just a couple of months before
you must be real daft to not expect support for such a new phone
this phone just came out a couple months ago, wouldnt you expect a frikking update just like the one x too?
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Who said we aren't going to get the update? Oh wait, that's right, nobody did.
flex360 said:
the one x has been out just a couple of months before
you must be real daft to not expect support for such a new phone
this phone just came out a couple months ago, wouldnt you expect a frikking update just like the one x too?
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Think about what I said and your response to it for just a second. Is that second over? Ok, let's try that again.
1) Did I state there is not support or that we will not get support?
If your answer is no, you have survived round one and are allowed to continue!
2) Think about 4.1. What if HTC and/or Sprint thinks 4.0.4 is a waste of time and decides, hey, why don't we just develop 4.1 for the LTEvo instead? I mean, that could be money better spent, right? So, are we with AT&T and have the One X, or are we Sprint and have the LTEvo?
If your answer is Sprint and the LTEvo, you have survived round two and allowed to continue!
3) So where does it state that we will absolutely get everything that the One X gets? Is there anything concrete that links our LTEvo development to the One X?
If your answer is nowhere and nothing, you have won the game!!! WOOOHOOO!!!
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Think about what I said and your response to it for just a second. Is that second over? Ok, let's try that again.
1) Did I state there is not support or that we will not get support?
If your answer is no, you have survived round one and are allowed to continue!
2) Think about 4.1. What if HTC and/or Sprint thinks 4.0.4 is a waste of time and decides, hey, why don't we just develop 4.1 for the LTEvo instead? I mean, that could be money better spent, right? So, are we with AT&T and have the One X, or are we Sprint and have the LTEvo?
If your answer is Sprint and the LTEvo, you have survived round two and allowed to continue!
3) So where does it state that we will absolutely get everything that the One X gets? Is there anything concrete that links our LTEvo development to the One X?
If your answer is nowhere and nothing, you have won the game!!! WOOOHOOO!!!
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I like you.
Pro HTC? Can't you see, post purchase service is **** all across the board. The desire HD excuse is a perfect example. Your idea of carrier lock down is somewhat true BUT can be solved. I don't know why they let carriers muscle them. Apple says **** you, sale our **** or GTFO & they bend. HTC needs to do the same & Sammy does too. These cellular politics piss me off. I wonder what EXCUSE we'll get for not having android 5. I would much rather them come out & say "yo, we not upgrading your old ass phone. Buy a new one or GTFO"
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Nice to see you back man. Generally like your posts and threads.
It does seem like the LTE is getting left out right now but I'm not gonna freak unless a pattern develops
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I like you.
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I don't..sarcasm and being a d/ck isn't any better than the ppl u are *****ing about..personally I don't care about 4.04..the source is a whole other ordeal..

LG Updates often?

Ok so i was wondering if LG updates their phones often?
I know Motorola sucks at updating, even their flagship phones.
GlitchedSoul said:
Ok so i was wondering if LG updates their phones often?
I know Motorola sucks at updating, even their flagship phones.
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Most manufacturer's except Nexus phones are not updated "often." LG's track record with updates is not so good.
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Ok so i was wondering if LG updates their phones often?
I know Motorola sucks at updating, even their flagship phones.
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Ya, LG I would say is the last in the pack. Motorola is doing pretty good lately with their newer phones. They lightened up the skin a lot and have less work to do. There was an article that came out not too long ago that mentioned morotola saying they wanted to just do aosp on at least some phones, but manufacturers wanted skins so they can so difference in comparison to other androids. And embedded bloat.
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Most manufacturer's except Nexus phones are not updated "often." LG's track record with updates is not so good.
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Two months ago the former flagship P990 was officially running on 2.3.7... I think that says enough, it's pretty horrible
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ok
Nova163 said:
Two months ago the former flagship P990 was officially running on 2.3.7... I think that says enough, it's pretty horrible
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Wow
That sucks
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Wow
That sucks
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Except we are getting Jelly Bean through LG no doubt. It's really more up to AT&T timewise.
Here's a report I saw yesterday: Android update report card
I believe I saw the link on FB yesterday, though cannot recall. Not a lot of good grades out there. Surprise, surprise.
I'd be very surprised if we didn't get Jelly Bean but it's happened before, lol.
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I gave up on LG when I heard that they were already working on OG2. You will be lucky to get JB 4.1 on your OG.
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Toodles, james. ):
jamesc760 said:
I gave up on LG when I heard that they were already working on OG2. You will be lucky to get JB 4.1 on your OG.
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Ummm the OG2 is purely speculation at the moment. So you're wrong. Nanner nanner nanner. No one will know anything about that phone other than rumors until MWC.
Um you gave up on LG? Hm interesting you own a Nexus 4. Just saying these statements just totally completely discredited anything you will ever have to say about anything regarding a mobile device.
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Ummm the OG2 is purely speculation at the moment. So you're wrong. Nanner nanner manner. No one will know anything about that phone other than rumors until MWC.
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Which is next month.
Ive decided to go elsewhere as well, but thats just because I go through phones like crazy. This phone will be perfect once it gets some CM10.1 action!
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Um you gave up on LG? Hm interesting you own a Nexus 4. Just saying these statements just totally completely discredited anything you will ever have to say about anything regarding a mobile device.
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I made this point too!
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The thing that kills me, and this isn't an attack, is that a lot of people are like "I would NEVER get this phone because it's made by this!"
Like me, I personally don't like Samsung. And I make it a point to not buy their phones.
Sony's I have no experience with and I've only had an LG twice (this phone and a flip phone when I was 14).
But my point is people say they hate LG for whatever reason and then sell this phone and by the N4, which yknow, made by LG.
Again, not at attack! I was simply doing research on when the N5 was coming out and all these people are like, I HATE LG, NEXUS ALL THE WAY (sent from my N4). It's just laughable.
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Could be a little nicer though.
They haven't made the perfect phone yet, but I chose the OG because of all the various shortcomings out there, the lack of software updates seemed to be the easiest to fix (with the help of the awesome devs!). Once that darn sourse code comes out, we'll be sitting pretty. I can wait for that. No amount of waiting was going to put more storage in the Nexus 4, and that, to me, was important enough of a feature to forgo the increase in software updates.
As far as I can tell, that and the weak camera are the only real knocks against the OG. Every other phone I compared it to had at least one fatal flaw:
SG3 -- US version only has a duel core processor and AMOLED display (I got rid of my SG2 because of screen burn in; no more OLEDs )
OneX+ -- "Only" 1GB of RAM and not crazy about the looks (I'll be honest, I almost pulled the trigger on this one)
DNA -- Don't have Verizon where I am, and the puny 16GB of storage on a device that's touted as a media machine is rediculous (how much 1080p HD video can you shoot with that thing if you have any decent amount of apps/ROMs/nandroid backups?).
N4 -- As stated above (twice) 16GB of storage just ain't enough for me.
Feel free to flame away, but these are my reasons for picking the OG. I am a little worried of what happened to my SG2 happeing to my OG; less than six months after getting a "flagship" phone, they release a new flagship. That's just a crappy thing to do to your customers.
Nastybutler said:
They haven't made the perfect phone yet, but I chose the OG because of all the various shortcomings out there, the lack of software updates seemed to be the easiest to fix (with the help of the awesome devs!). Once that darn sourse code comes out, we'll be sitting pretty. I can wait for that. No amount of waiting was going to put more storage in the Nexus 4, and that, to me, was important enough of a feature to forgo the increase in software updates.
As far as I can tell, that and the weak camera are the only real knocks against the OG. Every other phone I compared it to had at least one fatal flaw:
SG3 -- US version only has a duel core processor and AMOLED display (I got rid of my SG2 because of screen burn in; no more OLEDs )
OneX+ -- "Only" 1GB of RAM and not crazy about the looks (I'll be honest, I almost pulled the trigger on this one)
DNA -- Don't have Verizon where I am, and the puny 16GB of storage on a device that's touted as a media machine is rediculous (how much 1080p HD video can you shoot with that thing if you have any decent amount of apps/ROMs/nandroid backups?).
N4 -- As stated above (twice) 16GB of storage just ain't enough for me.
Feel free to flame away, but these are my reasons for picking the OG. I am a little worried of what happened to my SG2 happeing to my OG; less than six months after getting a "flagship" phone, they release a new flagship. That's just a crappy thing to do to your customers.
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They or any other phone manufacturer never will. Perfection is completely subjective. I chose the OG because I wanted to try something new. I am keeping it because the music player doesn't effing skip like both of my HTC and Samsung devices did. That's a deal-breaker for me. I don't have an iPod or similar device so my phone is my music hub.
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I gave up on LG when I heard that they were already working on OG2. You will be lucky to get JB 4.1 on your OG.
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The Thrill came out in Sept. of 2011 with Froyo, with the promise of Gingerbread "within a month". They finally got that update in March of 2012. The international version JUST got ICS in Nov of 2012, but the Thrill is dead in the water.
For everyone making fun of the people who swore "Never LG!" and went to the Nexus, well... MOST people have an issue with LG's update policy. Take their software out of the way, and they'd have no issue getting an LG made phone. With Google handling the updates, I can see their point.
Personally, I fixed LG phones for a long time and I have a serious issue with their build quality, not their software. I'll always put an AOSP rom on my phone, so yeah, not too concerned there. My issue is that they always seem to skimp out on building their phones correctly.
- The LG Rumor's charging port was so poorly soldered on, if you sneezed near it, it would snap off. The Flex cable would also break... Our district would replace these phones with the Rumor 2, no questions asked. We were p[romised that the 2 would solve these issues.
The Rumor 2 fixed this with MicroUSB, but the engineers had the flex cable between the two halves of the phone rubbing against metal. Eventually, the phone would short out, almost every one.
-The Optimus S was basically disposable. My girlfriend went through 9 of them before we ditched Sprint for AT&T. Granted, it was a low end phone, but still...
- When I got the Thrill, the first one got so hot (just web browsing) that it would reboot. The second did the same. The third got so hot, the adhesive around the screen MELTED and dripped down the inside of the glass.
Look, the build quality issues are still present. The scratching AND cracking glass issue, the overheating, the reboots into "demigod" mode, etc etc. Then you take the Nexus which has the speaker issues, the glass, the yellowing screen (is that an issue with the OG too?)... Can you blame someone for doubting LG? The best compliment I can give is that the OG and the Nexus have me wanting the phone DESPITE my nightmare experiences in the past. And honestly, considering my stance on LG, that's a huge compliment.
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Two months ago the former flagship P990 was officially running on 2.3.7... I think that says enough, it's pretty horrible
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entropism said:
The Thrill came out in Sept. of 2011 with Froyo, with the promise of Gingerbread "within a month". They finally got that update in March of 2012. The international version JUST got ICS in Nov of 2012, but the Thrill is dead in the water.
For everyone making fun of the people who swore "Never LG!" and went to the Nexus, well... MOST people have an issue with LG's update policy. Take their software out of the way, and they'd have no issue getting an LG made phone. With Google handling the updates, I can see their point.
Personally, I fixed LG phones for a long time and I have a serious issue with their build quality, not their software. I'll always put an AOSP rom on my phone, so yeah, not too concerned there. My issue is that they always seem to skimp out on building their phones correctly.
- The LG Rumor's charging port was so poorly soldered on, if you sneezed near it, it would snap off. The Flex cable would also break... Our district would replace these phones with the Rumor 2, no questions asked. We were p[romised that the 2 would solve these issues.
The Rumor 2 fixed this with MicroUSB, but the engineers had the flex cable between the two halves of the phone rubbing against metal. Eventually, the phone would short out, almost every one.
-The Optimus S was basically disposable. My girlfriend went through 9 of them before we ditched Sprint for AT&T. Granted, it was a low end phone, but still...
- When I got the Thrill, the first one got so hot (just web browsing) that it would reboot. The second did the same. The third got so hot, the adhesive around the screen MELTED and dripped down the inside of the glass.
Look, the build quality issues are still present. The scratching AND cracking glass issue, the overheating, the reboots into "demigod" mode, etc etc. Then you take the Nexus which has the speaker issues, the glass, the yellowing screen (is that an issue with the OG too?)... Can you blame someone for doubting LG? The best compliment I can give is that the OG and the Nexus have me wanting the phone DESPITE my nightmare experiences in the past. And honestly, considering my stance on LG, that's a huge compliment.
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While I see the point on they're older phones (friends had them and they sucked) I have had no issues on my OG. No reboots, no overheats on "demigod," even worked fine for a few days without thermal throttling. Dropped it on tile from a few feet up and nothing cracked, but I have a case now anyways. The people reporting these issues may have duds, or are irresponsible. While I was extremely scared of going with LG because of their past, I believe they picked it up on the OG. They're getting serious after the Nexus deal, and are trying to take a spot in the top tier with Samsung now, so I would expect them to be very careful in how they handle their new phones figuring Google is trusting them with the Nexus and Qualcomm to show off the S4 Pro. If they screw it up, they lose their shot.
All the issues with the OG, I pulled from these forums. You can't really place overheating as "irresponsibility", and how many tech blogs have gone on to mention the cracked glass? Hell, they're even saying that using the phone then putting it on a room temperature countertop will crack the glass. These are from trusted sites, and trusted bloggers. Again, it was LG putting out an amazing device and then shortchanging it horribly in one way or another.
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While I see the point on they're older phones (friends had them and they sucked) I have had no issues on my OG. No reboots, no overheats on "demigod," even worked fine for a few days without thermal throttling. Dropped it on tile from a few feet up and nothing cracked, but I have a case now anyways. The people reporting these issues may have duds, or are irresponsible. While I was extremely scared of going with LG because of their past, I believe they picked it up on the OG. They're getting serious after the Nexus deal, and are trying to take a spot in the top tier with Samsung now, so I would expect them to be very careful in how they handle their new phones figuring Google is trusting them with the Nexus and Qualcomm to show off the S4 Pro. If they screw it up, they lose their shot.
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