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After a night of wine and tequila on a brother birthday, i got to home with my girlfriend. I get quickly to bathroom and my phone fell out of my coat directly on the toilet. When I saw, I took as fast as possible and not turned over, and dry it with a hairdryer, removed the battery and sim/sd card.
Apparently the screen still with some water on it inside. I didnt opened it because it still on warranty (1 month of use), so i'm freaking out, here in brazil I paid $800 (it costs $1200 really, but i got a promotion) and i'm out of money. So if you guys know something to do and if atrix have a protection, please help me.
PS: donation accepted
Like any other phone that gets wet...battery removal is a priority. Then put it in a ziploc bag of dry, uncooked rice for several days. Your warranty is now void since it's been wet, so dis-assembly shouldn't bother you.
you might as well take it apart to let it dry since your warranty does not cover water damage. you can always try to find some water damage stickers on ebay and replace them and try to get the warranty to cover it...
I already removed the battery, of course. I'm thinking of dis-assembly this and try to replace the water damage indicator, but there is no other sticker that motorola can know that i opened it? because opening void the warranty too.
Lesson learned. Don't put a phone in a pocket where gravity can take over and drop.
That being said, I've fixed a couple wet iPhones by putting it in dry uncooked white rice for acouple days.
LivingChampion said:
Lesson learned. Don't put a phone in a pocket where gravity can take over and drop.
That being said, I've fixed a couple wet iPhones by putting it in dry uncooked white rice for acouple days.
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Rice will usually work. HURRY
Thats not a 'lesson learned'. Every day the first thing i do when get in home is put the cell on its dock, but this time... it happens...
the cellphone is now on white rice uncooked, i'll leave it for some days and will try to call motorola to knows if they can do anything, maybe paying... i know the warranty is on the hell...
i'm just with fear about the water inside the lcd screen... i'll search around an video off dis-assembly of atrix..
My wife dropped hers in the toilet not only is it working fine but the moisture
sensor on the back under the cover is still white.
good thing our phone doesnt have void stickers so we can take it apart how many times we want without worrying, also the lcd is not glued to the digitizer and what not. so if there is water inside you can easily get it out..
kudos to moto.
I have found this: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola-Atrix-4G-Teardown/4964/1
Someone know at where should i dis-assembly? i think it's very hard to assembly it again after.
Thanks to everyone that are trying to help me, i'll thank every one!
Sorry for double post, edit bnt isn't working here (Opera),
Do someone know where to find the water damage indicator to replace mine? I didn't find it on ebay (or doesnt know how to name it)...
Thanks in advance.
I would like to name this build (if you dont mind)..."Toiletblur"
If you take it apart and let it dry out it should dry out and work again. It happened to another phone I had.
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vanstorm said:
I would like to name this build (if you dont mind)..."Toiletblur"
If you take it apart and let it dry out it should dry out and work again. It happened to another phone I had.
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Not quite so............corrosion can build up very quickly, and the only way to get rid of that is to take apart your phone, piece by piece, and very carefully clean out any corrosion deposits. There are guides for this with the iPhone, and other phones, but the Atrix is too new I believe for there to be a comprehensive guide showing what needs to be checked and cleaned. Contacts are one of the first places on which corrosion starts to appear.
Pretty sure there are no void stickers on this phone. Also there's only like 5 or 6 screws to take the whole phone apart. All of which are visible from the back. I stripped mine down as soon as I got it. I don't think there's any moisture sensors either. Maybe on the battery itself? If so just get a new battery
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Should I use Isopropyl alcohol or is too late? Remember that yesterday was sunday, so i can buy it on workdays
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Pretty sure there are no void stickers on this phone. Also there's only like 5 or 6 screws to take the whole phone apart. All of which are visible from the back. I stripped mine down as soon as I got it. I don't think there's any moisture sensors either. Maybe on the battery itself? If so just get a new battery
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there are two water indicators, one on the battery and one on the phone under the battery
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Should I use Isopropyl alcohol or is too late? Remember that yesterday was sunday, so i can buy it on workdays
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Here are a couple of links to repairs for water damage:
I take no responsibility if following any of the procedures results in worse/more damage
http://www.fiscalgeek.com/2009/06/ff_water_damaged_cellphone/
http://www.gsmindia.in/forum/nokia-hardware-repair-section/18861-how-to-handel-water-damage-handsets-good-guide-here.html
http://techpp.com/2009/12/13/how-to-save-and-repair-your-mobile-phone-after-water-damage/
+1 for the uncooked rice method. tested and proven it works
neotekz said:
there are two water indicators, one on the battery and one on the phone under the battery
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must have missed that one. phone comes apart real nice though. I bought mine broken. well the volume keys were messed up and the battery cover wouldn't go on right. obviously it was dropped. I took it all apart and when i reassembled it was fixed lol. one little thing around the volume keys must have been out of place. saved $200 of retail for it too
I had same experience. I did the white rice for a couple days, then switched to flower drying crystals. After a while the phone started to boot again.
To dry out the lcd, navigation is your friend. Drove for a good twenty minutes with the screen on and noticed that the streeks were disappearing. After another day, phone was like factory again.
Motorola built this phone right.
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Specifically in the laundry. I got it out within about a minute, but it was completely submerged and April fresh. I tried the "bag of rice" routine for a few minutes, but I didn't want to wait 24 hours to see if that would work. Found "tear-down" instructional video on youtube. Took it as apart as it would let me (only about 10 screws). Motherboard, camera, power port and some other minor things but that was about it. It was soaked in there. No way rice was going to work. Stood everything on edge, propped up the hair dryer and let it blow for about 1.5 hours (rotating all the parts every few minutes). Put it back together and let my wife turn it on, while I waited in the garage. I couldn't watch. I didn't think I had insurance on it. But, it worked!! Has been perfect for 3 days.
nice bro. Glad it worked out.
Next time( and you know it'll happen again) 90% alcohol. tear it down, dunk the boards, dry in the oven at 125°. Should rewhiten the humidots too.
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That's awesome! In the future, and to anyone else with a similar situation...after the phone is dunked in water somehow...immediately disassemble and SOAK in rubbing alcohol for a good minute. Blow dry the pieces for a few minutes until dry, put it back together....Presto. The alcohol absorbs the water,
You should be good to go.
Edit: i'm slow
good to know
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Specifically in the laundry. I got it out within about a minute, but it was completely submerged and April fresh. I tried the "bag of rice" routine for a few minutes, but I didn't want to wait 24 hours to see if that would work. Found "tear-down" instructional video on youtube. Took it as apart as it would let me (only about 10 screws). Motherboard, camera, power port and some other minor things but that was about it. It was soaked in there. No way rice was going to work. Stood everything on edge, propped up the hair dryer and let it blow for about 1.5 hours (rotating all the parts every few minutes). Put it back together and let my wife turn it on, while I waited in the garage. I couldn't watch. I didn't think I had insurance on it. But, it worked!! Has been perfect for 3 days.
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Good to know. I will remember when I will submerge mine. And I would have waited in the garage, too.
Not waterproof?
Surely you jest.
check this out....dont know if i'd try it...... lol..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8puSOR2wWfQ&feature=related
i'm single. Can i borrow my buddy's wife to do it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8puSO...eature=related
Yeah this guy is a dooche
What I thought it was that is why I was getting it! Lol
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The alcohol absorbs the water,
You should be good to go.
Edit: i'm slow
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I could have sworn alcohol is used because when it dries, it doesn't leave behind minerals/residue that could short out terminals like water does, which is why it is dunked so that the alcohol replaces the water.
Alcohol dehydrates people and causes hangovers, so maybe absorption really is happening?
Alcohol breaks the surface tension of the water molecules and displaces it. Water is bad because as stated when it dries it leaves minerals and other contaminates that will grow dendrites. Microscopic fingers that will punch throught solder mask on boards and puncture insulation on wires. Deionized water is best, but most people have rubbing alcohol..
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good job on saving it!
Just an FYI for others, with the blow dryer don't put it too close.
Hahhahahhahahahha @ you waiting in the garage. I would've done the saaaame thing....good sh#t.
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Not that I've submerged my Galaxy S2, but should something happen I'm curious as to if you submerge the screen in alcohol as well? Just a good thing to remember.
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Not that I've submerged my Galaxy S2, but should something happen I'm curious as to if you submerge the screen in alcohol as well? Just a good thing to remember.
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Yessir totally safe, provided you allow it to dry completely before applying voltage.
FWIW I work in a clean room, I've dropped my cappy in a lake before and brought it back to life using the aforementioned method. As stated I even got the humidots white again.
My daughter fed my laptop a sam adams once... just power the item down or remove the battery asap. Rinse/soak in alcohol. Let dry in the oven at its lowest setting. Anything under 190° is fine. Pray/sacrifice a chicken. Power up and apologize for yelling at your 2 year old...
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UPDATE: I chickened out
I burned one of my two insurance replacements. The phone was still working, but the thought of the Tide and Fabric Softner working on my phones insides was too much. I wrestled with the idea of possibly wasting the $199 deductable, but I knew that if I waited for the thing to die in it's own time, I might end up with a refurb replacement.
Good thing too. It's strange, I got the replacement this morning and it's faster!! The battery has lasted all day! I still have 40% left after 12 hours, and believe me I have spent most of my free time setting everything up. Way more than I usually do with it. I don't get it. Maybe my original was a dud.
BTW, this time I sent my wife to the garage on an imaginary errand while I commited to the $199.
I have no illusions though. When our next AT&T bill is double the usual amount, that's when she'll get wise. But that gives me over a month to find a good place to hide. I can see the look on her face when I say "but this one's really fast!"
That's the dumbest thing I've heard in a long time.
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Which part?
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Turn on everything( GPS, 4G radio and such) download a new rom and play music through the speaker
I'm hoping to overheat the phone enough to evaporate all the water haha
Well I'll see how it goes and ill report back soon
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Stick a cut off qtip in the headphone jack (so rice doesn't get jammed in there) and throw it in a plastic sandwich bag filled up with rice, will work much better. Heat + water + electronic will just fog up the screen. Leave it in a bag of rice for a few days, battery out.
Seriously. I had water dripping from my MP3 player, and it's been working for a good year after that, because of rice.
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Stick a cut off qtip in the headphone jack (so rice doesn't get jammed in there) and throw it in a plastic sandwich bag filled up with rice, will work much better. Heat + water + electronic will just fog up the screen. Leave it in a bag of rice for a few days, battery out.
Seriously. I had water dripping from my MP3 player, and it's been working for a good year after that, because of rice.
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That^
It worked for my key fob that got lost in the snow for 3 months.
BlaydeX15 said:
Stick a cut off qtip in the headphone jack (so rice doesn't get jammed in there) and throw it in a plastic sandwich bag filled up with rice, will work much better. Heat + water + electronic will just fog up the screen. Leave it in a bag of rice for a few days, battery out.
Seriously. I had water dripping from my MP3 player, and it's been working for a good year after that, because of rice.
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I've done that before but it wasn't exciting haha I thought I'd try this for some laughs but its actually working my cameras lenses that were foggy and aren't now and I keep catching some moisture in the housing
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Ahhhhhhh! No no no!
Take the battery out quick quick quick! If you have water damage the first thing you do is remove power to the device! Water isn't what damages an electronic device. In fact water itself in its purest form H2O isn't even an electrical conductor. Water conducts electricity when something is dissolved in it and the ions dissociate, allowing charge to be carried through the water. Therefore if there is a salt, or something, or in this case dust, it will be able to conduct electricity, which if two points of contact in the device are shorted it can be powerful enough to destroy it.
The rice thing can sometimes work, but if the device had a lot of water get inside it there will be water in all the nook and crannies, even inside the processor. If the physical damage is already done to one or many pieces of the electronics there may not be any fixing it.
However, there is always a possibility that the ionized water is shorting circuits and hasn't damaged anything yet. If the device is to the point where it will no longer turn on, or screen appears dead you have nothing to lose in trying to fix it. I have saved several devices in the scenario I just mentioned using a mild solvent. You need to find a tear down guide to disassemble it. When you have it taken apart you can soak each individual part in isopropyl alcohol. You need to use the purest isopropyl alcohol you can find, ideally 100% isopropyl alcohol so it doesn't contain ANY water. However if you can't find a place to get that quickly, locally, for low cost use 91% isopropyl alcohol from Walmart or any drug store. I have used that concentration to successfully cure two devices that wouldn't turn on after water damage.
Put the alcohol in a large enough container that the parts fit in, and completely submerge the parts, may even need to include the battery in the solution. Leave it there about ten minutes, occasionally swirling to get the alcohol deep inside everything, processor, etc. Then remove it from the alcohol and let it AIR dry. To be ultra safe let it air dry for twenty four hours. You can then reassemble the device and test.
Alcohol is very volatile in air, so it evaporates very quickly (specially if that air is heated). Water and alcohol are miscible, so it will remove the water from inside every part. Good luck!
Just take your phone back to sprint and get another....Im going to assume you have insurance. Why take a chance that the phone could sustain some long term damage? Get a shiny brand new one and call it a day..
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Just take your phone back to sprint and get another....Im going to assume you have insurance. Why take a chance that the phone could sustain some long term damage? Get a shiny brand new one and call it a day..
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I would agree with that but he/she might not have $100 to drop around for a new insurance replacement phone. I have heard though of some repair centers replacing water damaged phones with a sprint ordered replacement as long as the phone works.
Sad Panda is 100% correct on the alcohol, so follow his directions! Alcohol has a high affinity for water and acts as a drying agent, drawing the water out of every corner and crevice.
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Sad Panda is 100% correct on the alcohol, so follow his directions! Alcohol has a high affinity for water and acts as a drying agent, drawing the water out of every corner and crevice.
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+1 sad panda to save the day
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The only sensible thing to do would be to do what sad panda posted. What you're doing is just retarded.
I agree. I've been doing this for years on laptops. It also works well off you spill coke or tea on it. It also helps to brush off the components with a toothbrush while soaking them in alcohol.
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Bag of rice will work 99.9% of the time. Depends on how much water it got will depend on how long u need to leave it in there. If it still turns on overnight should work. Take battery off and seal it up.
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Hate to say it but it actually worked... No fog on the lenses, no foggy screen, capacitive buttons all work and respond, speakers sound just like they did before, I know it might just be dumb luck but it worked out and there's no visible signs of condensation I'm the phone so I'm a happy camper
I've done all the alcohol disassembling before but I only had a T6 instead of a T5 torx and I'm a broke college student so I didn't have rice so I tried my way and it worked! so continue with the bashing if you will
(Btw I have TEP but trying something new felt like a better thing to do than waste $100 on a 1.5 hboot replacement)
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I'm a broke college student so I didn't have rice so I tried my way and it worked!
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Dude, a bag of rice is like four dollars.
But your idea is possibly the worst thing you could do for a phone. ONLY reason it worked is because evidently the water didn't seep in enough to cause enough damage.
Running power through a wet phone is the easiest way to kill it. Don't count on it working again for you in the future, you're lucky as hell.
Wow! So happy for you that it worked, don't try it again though! Even for a broke college student a liter of alcohol is two bucks. There are lots of nice guys on here. Even I would have sent you my torx drivers for free to help you out!
Glad everything is a ok! Good job! Phew!
This is hilarious.
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If you have nothing to lose put the phone in bleach. it will bleach the water strip thing back white and leave the red lines. Let it dry then take it to sprint.
but only use this as a last resort. lol
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If you have nothing to lose put the phone in bleach. it will bleach the water strip thing back white and leave the red lines. Let it dry then take it to sprint.
but only use this as a last resort. lol
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To my knowledge this won't get the sticker back to white and still maintain the original red lines. Those stickers work just like litmus paper works, they react over the neutral range of the pH scale. Bleach should react with the red chromophores but I just don't see how it will turn from solid red to anything but solid white, or worse a solid pink.
Have you personally tried that? Also bleach is chlorine + water + uhhh, hypochlorite at equilibrium. Since that is the case, the dissociation of ions have the same property as water and salt, or water and dust as I described before, so as long as one understood you are making the water damage worse, you could do that....your electronic device would likely burn up when electricity was applied again.
Just throw it in the microwave. I'd set the microwave to "defrost" though, just to play it safe.
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Just throw it in the microwave. I'd set the microwave to "defrost" though, just to play it safe.
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Sunday night my girlfriend put my pants in the wash as soon as I came in from working in the yard without checking to see if my pockets were empty. I had left them in my hamper and jumped in the shower
When I got out of the shower, I realized that I had left my phone in my front jeans pocket. I went looking for my jeans but to my horror realized they were in the wash.
I immediately stopped the washing machine and dug all the clothes out. Sure enough, my RAZR was in there.
I threw the phone in a bowl of rice and contemplated it's fate. Called Verizon and found out that I did have the insurance and that it would be a $99 deductible and they would ship me a new one. After that I watched some disassembly videos on YouTube. I decided that I would try to take it apart and dry it all out before going the insurance replacement route.
I went to Home Depot and got a set of torx bits with T4 and T5, along with some others. The kit didn't have a T3 which the video said I would need, but I decided to see how far I could get. As it turns out I was able to remove the T3 screws with the T4 bit by just pressing hard. I also used the dull edge of a butter knife to pry the case open, that was the only other tool I used for disassembly besides the T4 and T5.
I figured I would need the T3 to properly reassemble. I found a kit after work the next day at Fry's that included a T3 along with 29 other bits for a reasonable $11.99. When I got home, I first gave the main board some time under my girlfriend's hair dryer set on medium, just to get any remaining moisture out. Then I carefully reassembled everything. Nothing happened when I first pressed the power button, so then I put it on the charger and started to see signs of life; it was charging the battery! I waited until the battery was 10% charged and the attempted to power up again. Success! The phone booted right up! And everything is working just as before. I am so happy.
This adventure has given me the confidence that I would also be able to install the larger Maxx battery kit! I think I'm going to get it for myself on my birthday!
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nice fairy tail story :laugh:
You wife dropped hers in the toilet, after fishing it out she cleaned it in the sink with hot water then dried it off. It stilled worked so later she told me what happened and I used air to blow more water out of it. I called and paid the $99 for the new one but she continued using her old one for a few days till I got her new one restored. Verizon support said it would eventually begin to corrode inside and stop working. Hope yours continues to work.
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One thing that may have helped in my case is that I have a front-loading washing machine, which uses far less water than a top-loader.
I did open the phone up and dry it out completely so I hope that corrosion is not an issue. But I guess we'll see. If it starts malfunctioning a few months down the line, I will blame it on the dip it took in the washing machine.
Isnt razr supposed to be partly waterresistant?
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It is not water resistant but splash resistant as it was advertised. It was not designed to survive a washing mashine attack.
@Op, good story bro. Nice to know that my phone can survive such conditions.
The razor is also water resistant. It also has a special coating on the boards.
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Could you pay a little more on the insurance and get a maxx instead?
So my girlfriend dropped her phone in a cup holder with water in it today. Everything works but it's getting hot, and I couldn't get to it in time to pull the battery and disassemble. It's mainly working, but gets warm and eats battery violently. Has anyone had any luck with the rubbing alcohol bath trick on one of these? I'm not sure how they may react. Some things are getting a bit more sensitive these days.
Side note... If anyone has a main-board laying around from an old busted phone or anything, let me know. She's not pleasant when she's disconnected from the facebook world. The sooner I get this done, the sooner my ear stops bleeding.
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So my girlfriend dropped her phone in a cup holder with water in it today. Everything works but it's getting hot, and I couldn't get to it in time to pull the battery and disassemble. It's mainly working, but gets warm and eats battery violently. Has anyone had any luck with the rubbing alcohol bath trick on one of these? I'm not sure how they may react. Some things are getting a bit more sensitive these days.
Side note... If anyone has a main-board laying around from an old busted phone or anything, let me know. She's not pleasant when she's disconnected from the facebook world. The sooner I get this done, the sooner my ear stops bleeding.
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Put it in a bowl of rice with the bowl sitting on a heating pad set to high for 24-48 hours. Dont power on the phone in this time and make sure the battery is removed. Also ensure that its the phone getting hot and not the battery.
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Yeah when my phone went for a swim, I dove in to the pool after it. I think I ripped the battery out of it even before I was fully out of the water. I had to let it sit in rice for two days until I could no longer see water between the glass and LCD.
And even then, I opened it up and scrubbed the motherboard down with a stiff toothbrush and 91% rubbing alcohol, I wouldn't suggest dousing the phone in it, though.
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Yeah when my phone went for a swim, I dove in to the pool after it. I think I ripped the battery out of it even before I was fully out of the water. I had to let it sit in rice for two days until I could no longer see water between the glass and LCD.
And even then, I opened it up and scrubbed the motherboard down with a stiff toothbrush and 91% rubbing alcohol, I wouldn't suggest dousing the phone in it, though.
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I've taken phones that people could only find by calling it and seeing it light up in a puddle and saved them two days later. The trick was always get the water off and replace it with something pure so iron and zinc deposits can't complete a random circuit. Rubbing alcohol baths and a toothbrush have been common here, followed by compressed air, and finally rice for a day. It almost ALWAYS works, but this one is failing. Maybe I'll just buy a new board. To bad because the phone is still beautiful.
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I've taken phones that people could only find by calling it and seeing it light up in a puddle and saved them two days later. The trick was always get the water off and replace it with something pure so iron and zinc deposits can't complete a random circuit. Rubbing alcohol baths and a toothbrush have been common here, followed by compressed air, and finally rice for a day. It almost ALWAYS works, but this one is failing. Maybe I'll just buy a new board. To bad because the phone is still beautiful.
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You could always buy a water sensor sticker off ebay and replace the one in your phone that is red then take it into sprint and just say its acting funky and you want it repl........ Wait, thats illegal, dont do that.....
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You could always buy a water sensor sticker off ebay and replace the one in your phone that is red then take it into sprint and just say its acting funky and you want it repl........ Wait, thats illegal, dont do that.....
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I had a bad experience with some half breed store breaking her old phone and trying to tell me it was water damaged. After fighting city hall and just hearing "water damage", I took it apart myself, and what do you know... NO WATER DAMAGE! The guy tried to pass it off like water broke it when HE actually did. They stood there and told me that since her (previously working) phone was now dead, the only way I was leaving the shop with a working phone was if I bought a new one. I was furious to see it not show any signs of water, and after a few more calls, I took it to a corporate store and let them take it apart. Finally, the previous notes on the account were over-ridden, and retentions sent me out a replacement for 100 dollars. Three days later, I looked at craigs and found 4 of the same phone for 100 bucks (TouchPro2) and decided insurance isn't worth it. I've never looked back, and I can still even now buy a board or a whole photon for less than the insurance charges. Just missed one on ebay for 42 bucks, but tomorrow is a new day with new auction endings.
PS, She uses sprint as a family plan. I use boost on my epic, and now at 35 bucks a month, I've never looked back from leaving sprint. They can keep their BS insurance and false hopes of 4g. They charge her an additional 10 bucks a month for a "4g device", and we've never even been able to see the icon work. A year from now, she can actually upgrade to an LTE phone when the contract runs out, but until that, ....WOW cell phone companies really suck. I don't even think I should post this.