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I was watching reviews and stuff on the Galaxy Tab 10.1 on youtube and came across this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMorRi6z6PU&feature=related
He appears to get a lot of e-hate but the issue he's talkin about concerns me. I don't have a retailer's refund policy to fall back on since I bought it brand new and sealed on craigslist so I have Samsung's warranty. If this is a prominent problem, I want to just go with the Xoom and get rid of the Tablet 10.1.
Anyone know anything about this? Is this common?
I tried to do a search and only found 2 threads on sleep and wake issues but I really didn't know what keywords to type for this phenomenon. Is it "bricking issue"? lol
Personally, I will never EVER buy another Samsung product again. I got burned too many times on their products, and their after sales support is a frigging joke. Or at least in my country it is. First was my dual sim phone of theirs that was so buggy that I opted to stick to one sim instead (here in the Philippines, it's a whole lot more economical to have two Sims at least because each carrier has an unlimited call and text plan to the same network). Then my Samsung external HDD drive died in less than 6 months that I purchased it, taking all of my photos with it (I do professional photography on the side), and now my LCD TV went kaput. In all cases, their service center didn't do squat. On the phone, they kept saying that they cannot do anything about it other than recommend that I buy the higher model. On the second, they don't recover data, and I have to go to their main office to get a replacement. That's a problem for me because I have a day job and their main office is far from where I work. But the LCD took the cake for me. They just told me this morning that my LCD model is already phased out and that they cannot repair it. I bought the LCD in 2007. Imagine how often they release LCD models, and thus how often they phase out products.
That's 3 different products from Samsung. I doubt that they'll have a different approach on smartphones and tablets. Sell your Galaxy tab. There are a whole lot more better tablets out there.
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iampoch said:
Personally, I will never EVER buy another Samsung product again. I got burned too many times on their products, and their after sales support is a frigging joke. Or at least in my country it is. First was my dual sim phone of theirs that was so buggy that I opted to stick to one sim instead (here in the Philippines, it's a whole lot more economical to have two Sims at least because each carrier has an unlimited call and text plan to the same network). Then my Samsung external HDD drive died in less than 6 months that I purchased it, taking all of my photos with it (I do professional photography on the side), and now my LCD TV went kaput. In all cases, their service center didn't do squat. On the phone, they kept saying that they cannot do anything about it other than recommend that I buy the higher model. On the second, they don't recover data, and I have to go to their main office to get a replacement. That's a problem for me because I have a day job and their main office is far from where I work. But the LCD took the cake for me. They just told me this morning that my LCD model is already phased out and that they cannot repair it. I bought the LCD in 2007. Imagine how often they release LCD models, and thus how often they phase out products.
That's 3 different products from Samsung. I doubt that they'll have a different approach on smartphones and tablets. Sell your Galaxy tab. There are a whole lot more better tablets out there.
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Hm, that sucks to hear. How long is your LCD warranty? If you bought it in 2007, it's been 4 years. They refused to fix it despite it being under warranty still?
I'm reading about these issues and I don't really know how big of a problem it is or how widespread. It's been the Galaxy Tab or the Xoom at this point.
kettlecorn said:
I was watching reviews and stuff on the Galaxy Tab 10.1 on youtube and came across this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMorRi6z6PU&feature=related
He appears to get a lot of e-hate but the issue he's talkin about concerns me. I don't have a retailer's refund policy to fall back on since I bought it brand new and sealed on craigslist so I have Samsung's warranty. If this is a prominent problem, I want to just go with the Xoom and get rid of the Tablet 10.1.
Anyone know anything about this? Is this common?
I tried to do a search and only found 2 threads on sleep and wake issues but I really didn't know what keywords to type for this phenomenon. Is it "bricking issue"? lol
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I'm still laughing... "THIS IS A MAJJJOOORR DESIGN FLAWW!". Just look at the number of likes/dislikes, heh. Anyways, here's more reasons for you to worry:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O_QPX-R9JE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YoxI-KRnAw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_PQRom5eCg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orEJGB9r7OE
Out of millions of tablets sold, I guess there has to be some that are defective... not to mention the user factor. Who's telling you that the MAJJJOOORR DESIGN FLAWW (lol) is not caused because the guy was taking a dump and he dropped the tablet in the toilet bowl. Or he simple played with the ROM, heh.
Just relax, is not the cure for cancer that you bought... is a freaking tablet. If it breaks, you replace it under warranty. Wasn't better to live in those times with no Internet and possible broken tablets?
iampoch said:
Personally, I will never EVER buy another Samsung product again. I got burned too many times on their products, and their after sales support is a frigging joke. Or at least in my country it is.
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That's probably it. I had a small issue with my tablet, I could not register it online... so the lady did it for me over the phone. That is because they were missing my batch model on their list, apparently it was too new. Next day, I had someone calling me back to make sure I was satisfied. Definitely not your scenario... and frankly, you are dealing with electronics. They BREAK. Is not your mom's old fridge that is running for over 40 years flawless, those times are long gone. You cannot rely on an external disk to backup important photos the same way you cannot expect to have a TV under warranty after 4 years... If you want a TV that works for 20 years, go get one of those cathodic tubes and they will last 20 yers, while they give your eyes cancer, heh.
Obviously, no disrespect intended to you. I made it a little more ironic so you see the depth.
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I'm still laughing... "THIS IS A MAJJJOOORR DESIGN FLAWW!". Just look at the number of likes/dislikes, heh. Anyways, here's more reasons for you to worry:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O_QPX-R9JE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YoxI-KRnAw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_PQRom5eCg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orEJGB9r7OE
Out of millions of tablets sold, I guess there has to be some that are defective... not to mention the user factor. Who's telling you that the MAJJJOOORR DESIGN FLAWW (lol) is not caused because the guy was taking a dump and he dropped the tablet in the toilet bowl. Or he simple played with the ROM, heh.
Just relax, is not the cure for cancer that you bought... is a freaking tablet. If it breaks, you replace it under warranty. Wasn't better to live in those times with no Internet and possible broken tablets?
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Is that supposed to make me BETTER?? Seriously though, you're right. No need to obsess. I just don't want it to happen to my tablet cause that would suck.
Well, if it happens while in warranty, is fine. I don't know about you, but myself... when I get a new gadget I carry it like it is made of gold. You should see me rubbing my tablet screen every few hours with a microfiber cloth, heh. After a while, I really don't care anymore... and in fact, if it breaks there is a valid reason for me to buy newer technology.
I just don't think is worth to spend the time and chase every little imaginary issue, instead of enjoying your new gadget.
I have had none of the problems described in that video. The only wakeup problems I've had were my own doing (kernel hacking...)
Similarly, I have never had any problems with Newton rings on my device.
To the guy whining because he had a Samsung hard drive fail:
1) You are clearly not truly a professional photographer if you had irreplacable files on a single hard drive without backups. I'm not even professional (high-grade amateur) and I keep my important stuff backed up to multiple locations. Professionals keep backups AND they RAID their primary storage device, end of story. (Note: RAID alone is not sufficient, while it protects against hard drive failures it doesn't protect you against malware or filesystem corruption due to the computer itself going bonkers.)
2) There is no guaranteed fail-safe hard drive manufacturer - they ALL have a chance of failing. The only time I've seen a manufacturer put out a truly defective series of hard drives in terms of mechanical reliability was the IBM Deathstar series. Key point to remember: Prior to the Deathstar, IBM's drives were regarded as the most reliable drives money could buy.
Edit: I have owned HTC devices in the past, and currently own a Samsung smartphone (Infuse 4G) and one tablet (Tab 10.1) - The Samsung displays are clearly superior, and build quality of the Infuse is on par with the Tilt2 it replaced and higher than the HTC Tilt that the Tilt2 replaced.
Ya, same here Entropy... no issues what so ever, I own a perfect tablet.
And I totally agree with you when you say the Samsung hardware has a very high quality level.
Both my Galaxy Tab and S2 are great devices, in every aspect.
my tablet rapes me... and that scares me.
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my tablet rapes me... and that scares me.
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This thread was pointless... until your post. At least I laughed. Thank you.
I'm thinking of getting a GT and have done some research here and other sites. The more I read the more worried I'm becoming whether buying a GT is really a good idea.
My main concerns are the screen issues, newton rings, moisture under the screen, oil slicks, shaky or flickering screen, device not turning on or charging properly, etc.
As with all forums, it's always the problems that get highlighted so I'm finding it difficult to gauge how wide spread these problems are, i.e. do they only affect 1% of the GTs or is it more like 30%? Do Samsung acknowledge there is a screen problem?
I'd like some candid advice from owners whether they are completely happy with their GT and whether they would buy one again if they were buying now?
If it makes any difference I'd be buying the 16GB WiFi only model from the UK.
I am very happy with my wifi galaxy tab10.1. In my opinion this is the best tablet currently available in market.
And I would advice any of my friends to buy this only at this moment.
Regarding newton rings : its acknowledged by Samsung UK and is present in the FAQ system of their website
http://skp.samsungcsportal.com/integrated/popup/FaqDetailPopup.jsp?cdsite=uk&seq=408522
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I really like my tab, and haven't really had any problems. However, I did get some moisture under the screen after I left it laying outside on a hot day, but I just stuck it in the freezer and it went away .
Now, the decision of whether to get a GT... The main downfall is no external sd card (although this may not bother you). It's very thin, light, and looks good (+), but doesn't have the ports (like hdmi or usb) that other HC tabs have now (-). And, it's a bit more expensive than say a transformer, so you should take that into account too. My best advice would be to go somewhere like bestbuy and test them all out, then buy one on Amazon (generally cheaper).
Thanks for the replies guys. I'm not too bothered about the lack of external connections as the tab will mainly be used for some web browsing and the odd e-mail. I do however want to root it.
I did also consider the Transformer but the newer serial numbers haven't been successfully rooted yet. TBH, if it was rooted I would probably go for the transformer as it's ~€100 cheaper than the GT and already has the HC3.2 upgrade.
I've had a play with both and liked both. I preferred the GT's physical aspects (size and weight) and am familiar with TW as I have a GS2 so it's my first choice.
My main issues are the screen problems. Would you say the problem exists in all GTs (i.e. design flaw) but only manifests themselves when exposed to higher temperatures or is it something that is affecting only a batch of devices (i.e. manufacturing flaw)? I know that's probably difficult to answer but I'd like to hear opinions none the less.
sunseaker said:
Thanks for the replies guys. I'm not too bothered about the lack of external connections as the tab will mainly be used for some web browsing and the odd e-mail. I do however want to root it.
I did also consider the Transformer but the newer serial numbers haven't been successfully rooted yet. TBH, if it was rooted I would probably go for the transformer as it's ~€100 cheaper than the GT and already has the HC3.2 upgrade.
I've had a play with both and liked both. I preferred the GT's physical aspects (size and weight) and am familiar with TW as I have a GS2 so it's my first choice.
My main issues are the screen problems. Would you say the problem exists in all GTs (i.e. design flaw) but only manifests themselves when exposed to higher temperatures or is it something that is affecting only a batch of devices (i.e. manufacturing flaw)? I know that's probably difficult to answer but I'd like to hear opinions none the less.
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Read the last 10 pages or more to get answers to some of your questions :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130230
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ansonantonym said:
Read the last 10 pages or more to get answers to some of your questions :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130230
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Thanks for the link. Well judging from that poll the problem seems to affect more than 50% of those that voted. It's not completely clear whether the problem has been fully resolved either. I've asked on that thread for people with screen replacements to say if the new screens have resolved the problem.
I would say i'm a basic user of my tab...i haven't rooted it as no idea how to go about doing that.
Overall for what I wanted it for, it's exceeded my expectations. I haven't encountered any issues with newton rings (touch wood) not lagging.
I have the 32gb wifi only version and I would suggest this is the optimum size. I feel the 16gb would be way too small.
Download dice player or another as this will play most files thrown at it. Also pay for the HDMI and USB adaptor to be able to watch on your TV or to transfer files. I've found this the easiest way to get files onto the tab rather than messing with Kies (don't go there) or using wifi explore options.
I wanted a tab for on the go, watching movies that i've downloaded without the need to convert (as with ipad). For this reason, it's a great tab, light and widescreen! Nice widgets and can customise the home screen. I'm sure I could get more use out of it, but I've come from apple products so new to android.
With the release of the TF2 coming nov 9th I'd definitely wait for that. If the Tegra 3 can run 1080p smoothly I'm making the switch over.
i have the 16gb metallic grey for 3 weeks now. I live in canada, i work as a real estate broker and am using the tab a lot, especially outside.
Here is fall season, temperatures are getting colder. I didnt have any problems with my screen. I really like my tab.
At first, i wanted to wait for TF2, but since they never said the exact date it would be release and that i was waiting since august, i bought the Galaxy 10.1 and i have nothing bad to say.
The only thing (as stated by others) the lack of sd/usb/hdmi slot turn me down a bit but u can fix that easy with thoses 2 : http://www.amazon.ca/Samsung-Galaxy...GY7Y/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1320212663&sr=8-7
and http://www.samsung.com/ca/consumer/...etail&subsubtype=others-multimedia&returnurl=
I'd wait if I was you. The GT10 is not perfect. Sometimes they have defects (gasp!). And then when you call customer service--they don't even speak the same language and they ask you questions! Can you imagine being asked questions! It's terrible! It's like they're saying "I hate your stupid face." when they ask you to "press the power button and tell me what happens." And performance? Well, it's good, but as soon as something new comes out it will totally suck. Like "wow, how did I ever use that" sucking. It will be abysmally bad! Everyone will laugh at you.
At some point, they will make a perfect piece of technology, then you won't need to ask because it will be perfect. Also, I think you should wait to breathe until the air is perfect. Hold your breath and I will tell you when it's time to breathe.
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I'd wait if I was you. The GT10 is not perfect. Sometimes they have defects (gasp!). And then when you call customer service--they don't even speak the same language and they ask you questions! Can you imagine being asked questions! It's terrible! It's like they're saying "I hate your stupid face." when they ask you to "press the power button and tell me what happens." And performance? Well, it's good, but as soon as something new comes out it will totally suck. Like "wow, how did I ever use that" sucking. It will be abysmally bad! Everyone will laugh at you.
At some point, they will make a perfect piece of technology, then you won't need to ask because it will be perfect. Also, I think you should wait to breathe until the air is perfect. Hold your breath and I will tell you when it's time to breathe.
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Oh wow that's very helpful and original.
I don't have 500 bucks to throw at a device that may have a design flaw nor the time to chase around getting it repaired because of persistent problems and so was trying to gauge the reliability of the device and extent of any problems.
You obviously have too much time if you can write all that dribble. If you don't like the topic don't read it.
slack04 said:
I'd wait if I was you. The GT10 is not perfect. Sometimes they have defects (gasp!). And then when you call customer service--they don't even speak the same language and they ask you questions! Can you imagine being asked questions! It's terrible! It's like they're saying "I hate your stupid face." when they ask you to "press the power button and tell me what happens." And performance? Well, it's good, but as soon as something new comes out it will totally suck. Like "wow, how did I ever use that" sucking. It will be abysmally bad! Everyone will laugh at you.
At some point, they will make a perfect piece of technology, then you won't need to ask because it will be perfect. Also, I think you should wait to breathe until the air is perfect. Hold your breath and I will tell you when it's time to breathe.
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Dude, there will always be something better coming out, if he wait for that "perfect" product, well he will never buy something.
I didnt want to spoil my money either. Here in canada, with a 3yr sim card data plan, i got a discount and my tab cost me 350$.
Before taking my decision, I've looked at almost all review on the web, went to stores and played with all the tabs.
At the end, it will be a personnal decision. Think about ur needs, no product is perfect, it might defect, thats why u get a warranty when u buy it. For me that was another reason not to buy online, just in case i need service on the tab.
Now for the reliability, since we live in differents parts of the world, i guess nobody can give you a 100% advice about it.
For my two cents, I love my Tab, think it is definitely with getting the 32 GB version, and was unlucky enough to have a problem with the charging connecter breaking. I bought it on Craigslist like-new, but didn't have a receipt. I called Samsung in the middle of the night (24 hour support), and was able to get everything taken care of. It took five minutes, at 1 am Pacific time, speaking to someone with an American accent. They sent me a return label, so I didn't pay a penny to get it repaired, even without proof of purchase. Got it back today, two weeks later. Impressive.
I've got to say, I work with a fair amount of tech support for my job as an audio engineer, and am always amazed with how much better support I get from dealing with companies like Allen & Heath through my work, because we have pro accounts with them all. Samsung was nearly on par with them. That's saying something if you ask me.
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Bought the 3G 16 GB version and love it.
The USB adaptor was included free in the box.
This beauty is the next best thing after my wife and kid
16 GB is more than enough, as USB works fine, and if you need extra space there is always the GoFlex Satellite with 500 GB. I think buying 32 GB does not make any sense.
Got also the Logitech Tablet Keyboard for Android 3.0+ and together with the tab it's a killer combo
So if you are really interested in getting a tab, I would go all out for it
Ok, kinda stupid question, but here it goes:
I have played around with the black version of 10.1 16GB 3g version and the back plastic has a somewhat "rubbery feel". What I want to know is whether the white one has the same feeling or it is glossy and "shiny"... Well Iam ordering tomorrow and want to know please! Thanks!
I was going to make my own thread regarding the GT10.1 before buying one, but thought I would just post it in here:
My question is currently from what I know with stock you have to use Kies to transfer data/backup. With a custom ROM does still happen or can I just use it as a mass storage like all android phones?
I planned on getting a 32gb, but don't know if that is the smart choice. With all kinds of cloud and online storage is 32gb even needed? I know it has no expansion on the device itself.
Lastly, one of my reasons for getting a tablet is for reading all my ebooks and especially PDFs, how well do these look on the 10.1?
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Ok, kinda stupid question, but here it goes:
I have played around with the black version of 10.1 16GB 3g version and the back plastic has a somewhat "rubbery feel". What I want to know is whether the white one has the same feeling or it is glossy and "shiny"... Well Iam ordering tomorrow and want to know please! Thanks!
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Its glossy and shiny in US
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AODfan said:
I was going to make my own thread regarding the GT10.1 before buying one, but thought I would just post it in here:
My question is currently from what I know with stock you have to use Kies to transfer data/backup. With a custom ROM does still happen or can I just use it as a mass storage like all android phones?
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Since the source hasn't been released, the roms aren't exactly custom but modified stock ones. (Please correct me if I'm wrong). So they work with kies.
@ansonantonym: thanks
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Panos_dm said:
Since the source hasn't been released, the roms aren't exactly custom but modified stock ones. (Please correct me if I'm wrong). So they work with kies.
@ansonantonym: thanks
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So, basically all the owners of a Galaxy Tab have to go the route of Kies to do any kind of data transfer(From PC). Fun.
AODfan said:
So, basically all the owners of a Galaxy Tab have to go the route of Kies to do any kind of data transfer(From PC). Fun.
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Well, if indeed I am correct, yes. BUT you can also use dropbox or sent an email to the account that is linked to the tab containing the data. And there is always the option of buying the USB adaptor... Ok I admit that as far as connectivity is concerned, Samsung behaves like Apple but imo what sucks about Apple is not the hardware but the software.
Off topic:
Lets hope that Samsung delivers ICS as well, thus giving us Apple like support!
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First things first u'll notice this is my 1st post. I've been a constant Xda lurker since i got my xoom way back in March of last year. Finally decided to actually register (something i shouldve done a year ago).
Anyway onto my issue. I live in South Africa so if i were to upgrade to the S3, it would be the international variant. I currently own an iPhone 3gs, so almost any recent phone is an upgrade. I'm lucky enough to be able to choose the S3
The S3 in my eyes is without a doubt the best phone on the market. Theres just a few things i'm unsure of. Please answer whichever of the questions u feel u can Keep in mind that once i upgrade, i'll have to keep the S3 for 24 months (minimum).
1) Firstly, its the 1gb of RAM. i understand this is more than enough at this current moment but i'm worried that it will be insufficient within the next year. Would the S3 still be able to provide top tier performance in 24months?
2) The build quality seems to be an issue. I couldnt care less for the aesthetics of the actual device (i actually think it looks quite nice), but i've seen alot of posts about small drops resulting in completely cracked screens and other severe damage. Even with a cover, is the S3's build quality that bad?
THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION:
The first batch that the South african stores recieved were all white of course. I was wondering whether it would be worth me waiting 2 more weeks for the blue version to arrive. Not a matter of the appearence but rather the actual hardware. Theres countless threads about the 'pink tint' and 'ink sploges' on the screen. I was wondering if the blue variant may be less prone to this issue or is it a complete gamble regardless of whether i choose the white or blue
I understand i could find some of these answers by looking through the forum (and i have) but i would like some personal opinions directly relating to the questions i asked. Thanks for all your replies.
Ink splotches is a byproduct of the screen tech. EVERY model will have them
I do not drop my phones so I cannot comment on that, but I am willing to bet it would only crack the screen if it fell on a corner or side. I.E. if you are going to drop your phone, drop it face down or face up
1GB of RAM should be fine in two years considering apps will be able to be multi-threaded and be able to use the four cores more efficiently, coupled with the fact that Android manages RAM pretty well.
Whatever phone you choose, good luck and I hope you enjoy it
Hi there!
Regarding question 2:
I haven't dropped my SGS3 yet (and I don't plan to).
Call me silly but I have bought both a screen protector and a rear cover as well.
The phone is a quite a big investment so why not protect it the best you can? There are very rugged covers such as Otterbox and so on.
If you are really unlucky when (if) you drop your phone it can break, sure. Try to protect it with some cheap insurance (screen and rear cover) and you have done what you can.
It's a fantastic phone so don't hesitate to buy one just because you are worried about build quality. It's more or less up to you how careful you are with your shining new toy!
Good luck!
//Ohamn
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Thanks for the replies guys
Anybody else have any advice on the blue vs white question?
The white was released first in the UK and while I was desparate for the phone I held off for the blue.
I just felt that the white may show it's age sooner and need better keeping clean but that's just me. As for the actual hardware, I guess it's still a gamble whatever but I am completely happy with mine and no issues personally.
If you REALLY wanted to be absolutely sure you'd have to wait months really (and then your first point comes into play even more)
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mits101 said:
Thanks for the replies guys
Anybody else have any advice on the blue vs white question?
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I seriously thought about buying the white one so that I didn't have to wait for the blue one. BUT, the white one is quite "iPhony" if you know what I mean! ;-)
I waited for two extra weeks for the pebble blue to come into the stores here in Sweden, and I don't regret waiting those extra weeks! In my opinion the blue one looks a littlebit more "sophisticated"!
But as always, it's just a matter of taste!
//Ohamn
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Hi mits101
I'm south African too.....
Just joined the site a few days ago as I'm contemplating going over to Android.
Very tempted.....
I am really intrigued as to how the S3 will stack up to my iPhone 4
Screen wise, sound wise and so forth
I do know that your iPhone 3gs screen will explode when it comes face to face with the Sammy, as far as ram goes I think it should be fine.
I would/will go for the blue one too though it's now Metallic Blue, I don't like the white look
You can upgrade at 20 or 22 months depending on your network (MTN 20 months)
unless it's changed (not sure Vodacom or Cell C)
@ sy573mx
Wow its great to see a fellow south African on these forums .
I've phoned most retailers and they have no idea when they'll be getting the blue version
Looks like I'm most probably going to get the white one. Well either way its gonna have a cover. I just really hope it doesnt have the pink tint.
Anybody know if there's a first and second batch of S3`s. Maybe the second batch will be less prone to the few display problems
galaxy s3 is the way to go, one of the best out and probably still would be for the next year.
ive seen a few threads on dropping their phone and the screen cracked and they cost about $300 to repair...
keep it safe and get a nice case that covers the screen.
android ftw!
Hi, I know there are probably a lot of threads like this, but I really need some help deciding here. Right now I am on Verizon and I have some crappy slider phone and have never owned a smartphone before. I own an iPod Touch and Nexus 7 so I know how both IOS and Android are. Personally, I prefer android which is why I decided to originally get the Galaxy S4. Today, I heard many stories of how the HTC One might be making its way to Verizon. I need you guys to help me decide if it is worth it to wait on the possibility of the HTC One coming to Verizon or just get the GS4 right away. Never owning a smartphone before makes me very impatient, which is sort of a problem.
Basically, is there any chance of the One coming to Verizon in your opinion, and if so, when do you think it will happen, and is it worth the wait? I also should note that I like to root and install custom roms, so if you think a certain phone will have better rom support over the other, let me know. Thank you and I look forward to your responses.
Edit: I had a chat session with Best Buy Mobile and when I asked if the One will be coming to Verizon, this was their response. I am not sure if they are reliable, but since they do work with Verizon, I kinda got some trust in them. Here is the screen shot. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1484678/Proof.PNG
xShockz said:
Hi, I know there are probably a lot of threads like this, but I really need some help deciding here. Right now I am on Verizon and I have some crappy slider phone and have never owned a smartphone before. I own an iPod Touch and Nexus 7 so I know how both IOS and Android are. Personally, I prefer android which is why I decided to originally get the Galaxy S4. Today, I heard many stories of how the HTC One might be making its way to Verizon. I need you guys to help me decide if it is worth it to wait on the possibility of the HTC One coming to Verizon or just get the GS4 right away. Never owning a smartphone before makes me very impatient, which is sort of a problem.
Basically, is there any chance of the One coming to Verizon in your opinion, and if so, when do you think it will happen, and is it worth the wait? I also should note that I like to root and install custom roms, so if you think a certain phone will have better rom support over the other, let me know. Thank you and I look forward to your responses.
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Right now there's nothing saying the phone will come to Verizon, for sure. Chances are 50/50 on whether it will or won't. Waiting for it to happen might be a fruitless effort.
HTC generally allows unlocking of their devices with a tool (straight from them). That's great, but the Galaxy S4 has already been unlocked...so it's kind of a non-issue. Rooting and custom roms can be done now, very easily. I'd say just pick up a GS4 and enjoy it.
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Right now there's nothing saying the phone will come to Verizon, for sure. Chances are 50/50 on whether it will or won't. Waiting for it to happen might be a fruitless effort.
HTC generally allows unlocking of their devices with a tool (straight from them). That's great, but the Galaxy S4 has already been unlocked...so it's kind of a non-issue. Rooting and custom roms can be done now, very easily. I'd say just pick up a GS4 and enjoy it.
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Thanks for your input, I will keep those reasons in mind. I updated the topic with a conversation I had with Best Buy Mobile.
The S4 will have much more support for custom roms. I hear there are some build quality issues with the HTC One. I have the S4 on Verizon and if we had the One in Black I'd buy that too However, I have more confidence in the S4 with quality control and support.
I'm hoping T-Mobile gets the One in Black because I will get it and use that as my work cell I love the feel of a premium handset in my hand like the iPhone 5. That's the ONLY reason I am considering the One as a future purchase. The feel of it.
xShockz said:
Thanks for your input, I will keep those reasons in mind. I updated the topic with a conversation I had with Best Buy Mobile.
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Th HTC One obviously has a superior hand feel and design. Sense vs TouchWiz is a toss up to me, as they are both abominations in my mind.
However, the feel and industrial design of the S4 is not nearly as bad as I'd anticipated. It's definitely do-able for most users.
The big deciding factor for me, what eliminated the HTC One from contention, is the battery life in the GS4. By all accounts I've read, the battery life is considerably superior on the Samsung phone. My own experience in the short time that I've had this phone backs up those accounts - it lasts for quite a long time.
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Th HTC One obviously has a superior hand feel and design. Sense vs TouchWiz is a toss up to me, as they are both abominations in my mind.
However, the feel and industrial design of the S4 is not nearly as bad as I'd anticipated. It's definitely do-able for most users.
The big deciding factor for me, what eliminated the HTC One from contention, is the battery life in the GS4. By all accounts I've read, the battery life is considerably superior on the Samsung phone. My own experience in the short time that I've had this phone backs up those accounts - it lasts for quite a long time.
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The deciding factor for me was lack of a user-replaceable battery in the One, and no SD card slot. S4 has both those, so, easy decision
This is the first device that I've owned the has taken so long with not much sign or interest on the custom development side of things, not even much chatter about it.
Why is there such a lack of interest in the G5? Is it more complicated than other devices or have LG not released the source or something (I'm no developer at all, just a severe flashaholic and am having severe withdrawals since buying this device. Not a single ROM flashed in months lol).
Thanks guys
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Beacuse LG locked all the bootloaders except h850 which is only for some parts of Europe ..Hope that lg will change their minds about this
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The H850 is not the only one with unlocked bootloader. H830 also has unlocked bootloader. Also, i wouldnt go making a lot of demands since moderators are watching. And "Beggers " get the worst out of them (with reason) (just suggesting). Also, since Im not a developer (yet), I decided to hold back and not buy the phone until there is at least 2 builds released. (if another phone dont catch my eye first, which it has already happened, S**t lol) but yeah, also patience is something you will have to endure. There is currently a handful of devs working on CM during their free time. As for now, people will have to use the "Fluence HD" patch if they want to flash something to mod their phones. In addition to that, there are some other developers that claims they have started to built their own roms and are currently testing them in their phones. But there are some files they still missing to compile. ( i have to find the post for each one again)
In conclusion.... yeah, you will definitely have to wait, and begging/requesting/or anything you do with the purpose to make it go faster won't help at all. After all, Developers also have a life, and they are doing this with their free time.
I'm not requesting anything St all, I was just curious as to what the issue was but now I know ☺ thanks for the detailed explanation.
I wasn't sure weather it was even worth while unlocking and putting custom ROMs on etc until it was all in motion but I might just dive in and try the Fluence HD.
Thanks again guys
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Roshi69 said:
I'm not requesting anything St all, I was just curious as to what the issue was but now I know ☺ thanks for the detailed explanation.
I wasn't sure weather it was even worth while unlocking and putting custom ROMs on etc until it was all in motion but I might just dive in and try the Fluence HD.
Thanks again guys
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Very well. This are the links i have been looking for:
Comment by "Nathan Chance (in addition read post 1 and 2 posted in the same comment) ": http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/wip-cyanogenmod-lg-g5-t3350528/page18
Comment by "greysonofusa" (claiming that he is building a rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/wip-cyanogenmod-lg-g5-t3350528/page16
Comment by "1619415" (claiming that he want to build his own rom but he need some files yet:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/wip-cyanogenmod-lg-g5-t3350528/page16
I think i saw a couple of others in another threads but you get the ideas. Its not that there is not interest on building roms for the G5, but that there are missing things to copile. But it is better that they take their time building a rom than to release a heavily buggy/unstable rom that might hard brick your device for good. At least that's what i think. (even though i dont currently own the G5 lol)
yea i suppose that makes sense. nothing worse than getting stuck in a boot loop and your computer not even detecting the device lol.
I love the G5 and dont see where all the hate came from in the Q&A section, cant wait to get flashing this bad boy lol
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yea i suppose that makes sense. nothing worse than getting stuck in a boot loop and your computer not even detecting the device lol.
I love the G5 and dont see where all the hate came from in the Q&A section, cant wait to get flashing this bad boy lol
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Well, part of the issue has been the signifcant amount of deffective G5's that have been sold and return again. And misleading infos provided by LG itself. For the time being i will keep an eye on the G5, the moto z force when it comes out, and... If samsung galaxy s7 reduces the price and developers achieve cm, then i might keep an eye on that one too. There is nothing worst that college sucking up all your money leaving you with only one shot at buying a new smartphone. If it comes deffective , you are practically done lol
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Well, part of the issue has been the signifcant amount of deffective G5's that have been sold and return again. And misleading infos provided by LG itself. For the time being i will keep an eye on the G5, the moto z force when it comes out, and... If samsung galaxy s7 reduces the price and developers achieve cm, then i might keep an eye on that one too. There is nothing worst that college sucking up all your money leaving you with only one shot at buying a new smartphone. If it comes deffective , you are practically done lol
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Im not aware of defective G5's. I mean, not more than any other new phone on the market. Remind you the S7 Edge also has this screen issue with thr purple vertical lines..it just gets less publicity because reviewers like Samsung. I also disagree with LG "misleading" info.. It is a metal phone with paint, still metal. I mean, the S7E's metal body is covered with sensitive glass and no one cares.
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Im not aware of defective G5's. I mean, not more than any other new phone on the market. Remind you the S7 Edge also has this screen issue with thr purple vertical lines..it just gets less publicity because reviewers like Samsung. I also disagree with LG "misleading" info.. It is a metal phone with paint, still metal. I mean, the S7E's metal body is covered with sensitive glass and no one cares.
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Yeah but they upon release they never specified that it had that coating on top of the metal. And that is not giving entire specifications about the phone. And with deffects (in this occasion) im referring to external defects. While screen might qualify as external, there are things even more external than the screen itself. Many have reported a huge gap between the modular part and the phone. Among other issues. But if you want to talk about internal issues, there is a vast amount of people who have reported their phones dying on them, or excessive overheating, or screen bleeding., and thats not only on XDA. XDA is just a small percent of the population on internet. The rest of the population matter. Yes, samsung have deffects but LG flagships have a history of deffects that goes way back up to even the G2. Dont get me wrong, im considering on buying the LG G5, but thats not my only option. I have also in mind the Moto Z force, and the galaxy s7. And hell, why not htc 10 too lol. But base on how LG is handling things (such as they havent released some of the modules for USA, and some modules having problems to work with the device and similar thing, it just made me think that i believe that LG released the G5 kind of earlier than they should have. I have a G3, a galaxy s4, and a galaxy s5, and had a G4, and i had to exchange the G4 3 times to fine a good one, and then even that one died on me. The G3 has proven to be a stable one, with some people reporting that the screen sometimes develop problems in the touch areas. But mine has remined faithful. Now the s4 and s5 i still have no issues with them, except the g5 with a little burn in image, but that was on me because i should have put the status bar hidden. Anyway, you get my point. The history speak by itself. It is just like the history of the oneplus devices. Which are now trying to make it better
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Yeah but they upon release they never specified that it had that coating on top of the metal. And that is not giving entire specifications about the phone. And with deffects (in this occasion) im referring to external defects. While screen might qualify as external, there are things even more external than the screen itself. Many have reported a huge gap between the modular part and the phone. Among other issues. But if you want to talk about internal issues, there is a vast amount of people who have reported their phones dying on them, or excessive overheating, or screen bleeding., and thats not only on XDA. XDA is just a small percent of the population on internet. The rest of the population matter. Yes, samsung have deffects but LG flagships have a history of deffects that goes way back up to even the G2. Dont get me wrong, im considering on buying the LG G5, but thats not my only option. I have also in mind the Moto Z force, and the HTC 10. But base on how LG is handling things (such as they havent released some of the modules for USA, and some modules having problems to work with the device and similar thing, it just made me think that i believe that LG released the G5 kind of earlier than they should have. I have a G3, a galaxy s4, and a galaxy s5, and had a G4, and i had to exchange the G4 3 times to fine a good one, and then even that one died on me. The G3 has proven to be a stable one, with some people reporting that the screen sometimes develop problems in the touch areas. But mine has remined faithful. Now the s4 and s5 i still have no issues with them, except the g5 with a little burn in image, but that was on me because i should have put the status bar hidden. Anyway, you get my point. The history speak by itself. It is just like the history of the oneplus devices. Which are now trying to make it better
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Well, let's agree to disagree about the paint.
There was never a huge gap on the G5. Some have small tiny gap which barely counts as a defect. I have a tiny gap on my phone and it's nonsense.
"huge" gap:
https://9to5google.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/unspecified.jpg
I agree about the LCD bleed, but you will only see it when turning the brightness to max and looking at a black screen in a dark room...which, for me, is..never. LCD's have that quite often.
Haven't seen dying G5's and I'm not aware of excessive overheating that wasn't caused by some app running in the background.
Not sure what was wrong with the G2, the best phone I ever owned. I had two and both still rocking perfect. Only got the G5 for the best camera.
I had issues with the G3 (I think of the G3 as the worst in the G2-G5..resolution was too high for the SOC, too much sharpening on the screen, resolution hit the battery life) but most were solves with software updates.
The G4 has that board problem, yep. I have a G4 at home and it's an amazing phone ..I guess I got one from a good batch. In any case LG replaces faulty G4's (at least in my country) for free.
I think you meant G4 and G5 at the end there.
So.. no.. I get what you're saying but I don't think it's true \ just.
Which G5 screen burn.. can you post a photo please so I can prevent it on mine?
Which Onelpus history though? My brother and mother both have Oneplus (1st one) and they are just great phones. I heard some issues with the Oneplus 2 ..I guess due to the OxygenOS change.
I do remember some issues with the touch sensitivity on the first Oneplus but they fixed it with software updates.
But really, you can go over to any phone's forum on XDA and you will find issues. Electronics have issues. People with no issues don't sign up and write threads about how everything is OK. You only read thread by users with problems. It's not LG exclusive.
If I were you, I would get the S7 Edge. Build aesthetics seems important to you and although the HTC 10 has awesome build, I can't find a reason to get it over the S7.
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Well, let's agree to disagree about the paint.
There was never a huge gap on the G5. Some have small tiny gap which barely counts as a defect. I have a tiny gap on my phone and it's nonsense.
"huge" gap:
https://9to5google.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/unspecified.jpg
I agree about the LCD bleed, but you will only see it when turning the brightness to max and looking at a black screen in a dark room...which, for me, is..never. LCD's have that quite often.
Haven't seen dying G5's and I'm not aware of excessive overheating that wasn't caused by some app running in the background.
Not sure what was wrong with the G2, the best phone I ever owned. I had two and both still rocking perfect. Only got the G5 for the best camera.
I had issues with the G3 (I think of the G3 as the worst in the G2-G5..resolution was too high for the SOC, too much sharpening on the screen, resolution hit the battery life) but most were solves with software updates.
The G4 has that board problem, yep. I have a G4 at home and it's an amazing phone ..I guess I got one from a good batch. In any case LG replaces faulty G4's (at least in my country) for free.
I think you meant G4 and G5 at the end there.
So.. no.. I get what you're saying but I don't think it's true \ just.
Which G5 screen burn.. can you post a photo please so I can prevent it on mine?
Which Onelpus history though? My brother and mother both have Oneplus (1st one) and they are just great phones. I heard some issues with the Oneplus 2 ..I guess due to the OxygenOS change.
I do remember some issues with the touch sensitivity on the first Oneplus but they fixed it with software updates.
But really, you can go over to any phone's forum on XDA and you will find issues. Electronics have issues. People with no issues don't sign up and write threads about how everything is OK. You only read thread by users with problems. It's not LG exclusive.
If I were you, I would get the S7 Edge. Build aesthetics seems important to you and although the HTC 10 has awesome build, I can't find a reason to get it over the S7.
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There cannot be a battle between opinions because in the end everybody will choose their own sides. All that i have said is based on experiences, and base of what i have read too, not only in XDA but digging around google which means thousands and thousands of different post on different websites, in addition to video in youtube, and more. So, let me skip the whole stuff to the last part of your last post, Aesthetics is not more important than functionality to me, which is why i'm strongly siding to Moto Z Force more than S7, HTC 10, LG G5 or even the Oneplus 3 (which have proven to be a good phone with some minor exceptions). After all, I always put a cover on my phone anyways, so, the so called "premium quality feeling" that people often are looking for, to me is useless since i use a cover. I use a phone to call, to use its functionality, not to rub its body against my skin to see how nice it feels every 5 seconds/minutes/hours in a given day. But i also like phones which try to be as limitless as possible. Which significantly reduces my list... Anyway, if we were going to argue about the matter it would take about 5 pages of XDA and we would probably still disagree with each other soo, lol I will just say that my experiences are not your experiences, and yours are not mines, therefore nothing that we say can be the "100% true" about each device we have ever touched before.
It will probably be a while yet before we get any usable CM roms, customised stock is great so far. We should get some soon though as I believe some devs like Xpirt are getting the device
Making a rom is not as easy as you might think . But otherwise, the phone is really good and the Stock Rom is perfect. Would like to root without unlocking the bootloader but you can not have everything
Well, i as Dev and ROM Cooker have to say that I'm really sad about the fact that there's almost no Development on the G5.
We have almost all needed source to compile a booting CM13 Build, but no one is creating a Thread for Public Testing. In my Eyes that would help alot...
Custom ROMs based on Stock are another Story. It looks like that no one is able to get a working Updater Script/Meta-inf.
Shouldn't be that hard for a skilled LG Device Dev to make one. But where are all the G2/3/4 Owners? Are they still on a old G Device? No interests on a G5? I dont know! But it's a really sad Story ...
I've found so much nice stuff in the H850 Firmware but some things need to be fixed and I've no clue how. So I can just hope that there comes soon some Development on this Device, which means more Developers and more success with creating ROMs and Modifications.
Fingers crossed! I love this Device and I don't want to sell i just of Lack of Development...
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Miustone said:
Fingers crossed! I love this Device and I don't want to sell i just of Lack of Development.
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Same here. But right now I like the device with your Fluence HD and the Aosp mod. It runs very well!
Of course I am eagerly waiting for Alucard's kernel (loved his SGS4 kernels!) and AOSP or cm.
But patience is a virtue and I can wait.
Also, as the price of the g5 is dropping I hope that more developers get on board.
I would gladly contribute. Unfortunately, I'm on vzw.
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Anyway, if we were going to argue about the matter it would take about 5 pages of XDA and we would probably still disagree with each other soo, lol I will just say that my experiences are not your experiences, and yours are not mines, therefore nothing that we say can be the "100% true" about each device we have ever touched before.
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That's not arguing...we have Youtube for that.
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That's not arguing...we have Youtube for that.
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Youtube is barely another small percentage of internet's population. Doing that would mean only to stick in one side out of millions. And arguing as in "argument " is exactly whwt we do on XDA. It doesnt necessary has to be bad argument. However, an argument is only worth it if you can feel that you have a chance to persuade or proof your point. But neither of us can do. To start looking for all thr comments, post, videos, blogs, etc..... It would be a suicide to do that. That, and that brains can only retain so much before it throws the information to a deeper part of the brain.