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Everyone is asking and talking about ICS, they complain that GSII will not be updated to ISC for "ages" to come.
I wanted to ask wether the buzz is about the Official ICS update or about the rom update. From what I know a working ICS rom should be out within weeks, am I not right? Could it be longer?
I am planing to buy a GSII but if I wont see ISC on it I'd rather get Galaxy Nexus.
Where did you hear a working ICS ROM would be out in weeks?
There are ICS ROM's around but not everything works so it's not good enough for a daily ROM, obviously everyone is hoping that a 100% working fully functional ROM comes sooner rather than later but devs need to be given as much time as they need.
ICS to be out officially late December, early January for SGS2 international...
Jelly Bean SDK was released today. I haven't been this excited about an OS yet!
Anyone going to work on ROMs?
Butter seems like it is going to be awesome!
Im interested in the Voice search and Google Now.
sekigah84 said:
Im interested in the Voice search and Google Now.
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Totally agree!
Markdental said:
Jelly Bean SDK was released today. I haven't been this excited about an OS yet!
Anyone going to work on ROMs?
Butter seems like it is going to be awesome!
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SDK aka software development kit is to help developers create apps compatible with jelly bean, not going to help with rom development.
rakeshchn said:
SDK aka software development kit is to help developers create apps compatible with jelly bean, not going to help with rom development.
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We had gingerbread ROMs based off the SDK on the Incredible..
What about the PDK, thought I saw something about that being released on the I/O?
rakeshchn said:
SDK aka software development kit is to help developers create apps compatible with jelly bean, not going to help with rom development.
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It does indeed help with rom development. Just not as easy.
I think it might help get it quicker too because the European version probably will get jelly bean quicker...
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I have no idea what the PDK is. That's something new I think.
But, yes, SDK can be used to develop ROMs, we just need to get a kernel developer to figure those out and make sure they are compatible. It likely won't happen until the OTA's hit in mid-July but the fact that the Galaxy Nexus is getting the OTA bodes well for us I think...
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I have no idea what the PDK is. That's something new I think.
But, yes, SDK can be used to develop ROMs, we just need to get a kernel developer to figure those out and make sure they are compatible. It likely won't happen until the OTA's hit in mid-July but the fact that the Galaxy Nexus is getting the OTA bodes well for us I think...
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The Galaxy Nexus does not have to rely on Samsung to push out updates though, and it is supposed to get updates first.
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I have no idea what the PDK is. That's something new I think.
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PDK as explained is the development kit for Physical Hardware, in other words for the Manufacturers. If developers that makes ROMs can get their hands on this one, then it would make it ALOT easier for them to create the ROMs. And the other nice thing they said is that the PDK was to be available for the Hardware Manufacturers 3-4 months before release, which should decrease the amount of time it takes for the manufacturers to release the next OS version. The problem is to try to get this from Google if you are not a hardware manufacturer.
And then there is still the issue with the drivers which is what the manufacturers sits on.
I know it doesn't help us get updates on the GS3 just bec the GN gets one, but having the GN getting the OTA can help us with ROM development esp if we have the kernels to work with.
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PDK as explained is the development kit for Physical Hardware, in other words for the Manufacturers. If developers that makes ROMs can get their hands on this one, then it would make it ALOT easier for them to create the ROMs. And the other nice thing they said is that the PDK was to be available for the Hardware Manufacturers 3-4 months before release, which should decrease the amount of time it takes for the manufacturers to release the next OS version. The problem is to try to get this from Google if you are not a hardware manufacturer.
And then there is still the issue with the drivers which is what the manufacturers sits on.
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It would seem then that Samsung should have been working on Jelly Bean for quite some time. What are the chances they release JB on the GS3 in the next 2 months if they have had 3-4 months to work on it?
They had ICS since at the latest last October and here it is June before they are releasing ICS for GS2. Seems the lead time is ~8 months. So if they had PDK 4 months ago and it takes them 8 months, then we should see JB in October/November. Unless the PDK somehow makes it easier to develop the ROM...
Markdental said:
Jelly Bean SDK was released today. I haven't been this excited about an OS yet!
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There are certainly some great features in there, but I think the "haven't been this excited about an OS yet" statement might be a little much. I'd say the milestone releases, 4.0 and 2.0 were certainly much more exciting than this. If it was intended to be the most exciting update yet, it would've had a version number to reflect that. Just saying.
Having said that... I'm pretty excited too, but it'll likely take Sammy a little while to push an official update if you're like me and don't root right away.
I want to see Project Butter and the new notifications in action! :laugh:
Markdental said:
I know it doesn't help us get updates on the GS3 just bec the GN gets one, but having the GN getting the OTA can help us with ROM development esp if we have the kernels to work with.
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Kernels for a completely different SoC..?
Markdental said:
It would seem then that Samsung should have been working on Jelly Bean for quite some time. What are the chances they release JB on the GS3 in the next 2 months if they have had 3-4 months to work on it?
They had ICS since at the latest last October and here it is June before they are releasing ICS for GS2. Seems the lead time is ~8 months. So if they had PDK 4 months ago and it takes them 8 months, then we should see JB in October/November. Unless the PDK somehow makes it easier to develop the ROM...
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I doubt Samsung has had the Jellybean PDK for four months already. Jellybean probably hasn't been finalized for that long.
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My understanding was that google tried the early release this time around by giving it to the manufacturers two weeks before I/O. It is for the future releases that it was going to be 3-4 months.
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demarcmj said:
There are certainly some great features in there, but I think the "haven't been this excited about an OS yet" statement might be a little much. I'd say the milestone releases, 4.0 and 2.0 were certainly much more exciting than this.
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Depends. The VSync governor and CPU prespread is rather a quantum leap. Yes, it's not massively exceeding the introduction of the 2.2 Dalvik JIT but it's going to push Android along and, likely, past the Cupertino Competition.
Not to mention "Butter" was the coolest code name, yet. Chet (who's also doing the "For Butter or for Worse" session tomorrow, gave a good impromptu hallway intro to some of us, and it's exciting. VERY exciting.
I flashed the toro version of the Jelly Bean SDK port to my Nexus and holy hell its so smooth. Much smoother than my GSIII. I can't begin to think how smooth this device will be especially since the screen is much more sensitive and responsive than my Nexus. 4.1 is what 4.0 should have been. The Google Now feature provided INSTANT response with no lag. Its almost like talking to a person. Im really impressed with jelly bean and hope Samsung provides timely updates.
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Zacisblack said:
Im really impressed with jelly bean and hope Samsung provides timely updates.
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Considering Samsung subscribes to the "want to upgrade your OS, upgrade the phone" philosophy, I am not sure we'll see JB on the S3 any time soon. I'd presume we'll see an AOSP Rom soon-ish, though, given the number of S3 owners at Google I/O that just stared and lusted...
Good Day,
Official Press Statement -
Dear Valued ASUS Customers,
We are pleased to announce that we will soon be rolling out a major software update for both the ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity (TF700) and ASUS Transformer Pad Prime (TF201), which will bring Android™ 4.1, Jelly Bean to the devices. We always strive to deliver the latest updates for our customers – we hope you enjoy it.
Thank you for your continued support.
North American Update -
For those users in the US and Canada, the 10.4.2.15 Release should be available within the next 48 hours.
Gary Key said:
Good Day,
Official Press Statement -
Dear Valued ASUS Customers,
We are pleased to announce that we will soon be rolling out a major software update for both the ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity (TF700) and ASUS Transformer Pad Prime (TF201), which will bring Android™ 4.1, Jelly Bean to the devices. We always strive to deliver the latest updates for our customers – we hope you enjoy it.
Thank you for your continued support.
North American Update -
For those users in the US and Canada, the 10.4.2.15 Release should be available within the next 48 hours.
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Nice. Any word as to whether or not the ANR issues have been fixed (or can be fixed) in this update?
Also, Does it fix the lack of being able to transfer data from the Prime to a PC through the charger port without having to transfer it to the MicroSD card first?
OMG AWYEAAH JB IS NEAR!!!!...... Sorry to ask, but you have any news for eta in the philippines/south east asia?
Great news! This should be really useful for ironing out the remaining issues on existing TF700 JB ROMs!
jordache16 said:
Nice. Any word as to whether or not the ANR issues have been fixed (or can be fixed) in this update?
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Well, I'd like to say... try it to know... there are those (like me) who never had problems with ANRs, even on official builds....
Fantastic. This is the official word I've been waiting to hear. Thank you very much for keeping our devices going, and for coming to the community first. Props. <3
Akkeresu said:
Fantastic. This is the official word I've been waiting to hear. Thank you very much for keeping our devices going, and for coming to the community first. Props. <3
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Me too - wonder why he did not update the sticky..?
Gary Key said:
Good Day,
Official Press Statement -
Dear Valued ASUS Customers,
We are pleased to announce that we will soon be rolling out a major software update for both the ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity (TF700) and ASUS Transformer Pad Prime (TF201), which will bring Android™ 4.1, Jelly Bean to the devices. We always strive to deliver the latest updates for our customers – we hope you enjoy it.
Thank you for your continued support.
North American Update -
For those users in the US and Canada, the 10.4.2.15 Release should be available within the next 48 hours.
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Thank you Gary :good:
So, 48 hours of jubilant speculation followed by months of disappointed recrimination!
craigacgomez said:
Well, I'd like to say... try it to know... there are those (like me) who never had problems with ANRs, even on official builds....
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Ya, I know some people supposedly don't have issues with ANRs but from my understanding it is a problem that most users do have, including myself.
Don't get me wrong, I love my prime but there's nothing worse than showing it off to an Apple fanboy and right after they open the browser they get an ANR popup. This is something that simply just does not happen on the iPad, and it is quite an annoying thing to deal with.
Is there a change log anywhere we we can get an idea of what was fixed or changed?
almightywhacko said:
Is there a change log anywhere we we can get an idea of what was fixed or changed?
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PROJECT BUTTER is the new addition...
ManOnTheMoon said:
PROJECT BUTTER is the new addition...
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Yeah but that isn't the only thing that has changed between the last update and this one.
almightywhacko said:
Is there a change log anywhere we we can get an idea of what was fixed or changed?
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Changelog: Android 4.1 Jelly Bean
DO you think us unlocked users that have custom roms and TWRP recovery will be able to install the official update? I've never thought about doing that, but I'd like to try out Official Jelly Bean!
I have the custom Android Mobi bootloader (video here). So if you can install an official rom with custom recovery, it will probably overwrite the custom bootloader.
Finally! Since I got my Galaxy Nexus a couple weeks ago (with Jelly Bean ROM) I have been noticing how slow my Prime is feeling. I would think a quad core beast like this should be faster than a dual core phone. But for some reason webpages load faster and I can scroll so much smoother on my GNex. I wouldn't think that JB is the only reason for this since my wife's GNex that was stock on ICS was running web pages smoother than the Prime. I don't understand... Just hope that this update breathes some life back into the old 201.
Thanks for all the info. I'm ready for the update. I haven't looked through the other threads and I was curious what ANR's are? I haven't had really any issues with my Prime. What different issues do people have so I can watch out for them.
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Fantastic news! Can't wait to taste the flavor of some jelly bean on my Prime!
So which is it??
craigacgomez said:
Err... I believe this update is purely an Android version upgrade... the downside is it removes WiFi direct & no longer has flash support... I guess I should have been more explicit, but don't expect a changelog other than one portraying JB feature... it's not an incremental update and is not meant to fix issues with ICS ROMs... it's a new base version... if it does fix issues, it will be because of new drivers, kernels, OS, etc...
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Craig,
Could you post the change log?? I assume you have it since you're posting on what is and what isn't in the update..
Seems like you're more interested in creating mis-information on this forum than the actual update..
So if you know so much about it, please share it with everyone..
Thanks in advance.
Do you guys think that we are able to get Android 4.1.2 for TF201?
Yes.
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digitalman88 said:
Do you guys think that we are able to get Android 4.1.2 for TF201?
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My take on this is that Asus will still provide Android upgrade bumps for the Prime for maybe up to June next year if we're lucky because dropping support for the Prime this early into its life just brings a bad name to it. Roms won't be awesometacular or completely stable but I'm guessing that we'll be getting it. However with that said Asus probably wants to drop support for it as soon as it can, if I were a profit hungry company, the Prime is the biggest liability, **** loads of rma, dongle, tons of complaints etc
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My take on this is that Asus will still provide Android upgrade bumps for the Prime for maybe up to June next year if we're lucky because dropping support for the Prime this early into its life just brings a bad name to it. Roms won't be awesometacular or completely stable but I'm guessing that we'll be getting it. However with that said Asus probably wants to drop support for it as soon as it can, if I were a profit hungry company, the Prime is the biggest liability, **** loads of rma, dongle, tons of complaints etc
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Got good points!
From what I understand, the Prime has a similar hardware to the Infinity (which is why the JB update came out for both of them at around the same time). The Infinity will most likely get 4.2 since it's still quite new so hopefully they will build the update for the Prime too.
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Is there even a 4.1.2?
Thought 4.2.x might be the next thing but now there's retractions.
We have just had Jellybean and there's already talk of future android versions?
Theshawty said:
We have just had Jellybean and there's already talk of future android versions?
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Well.. Humans in general have unlimited wants
justcookiesncream said:
Well.. Humans in general have unlimited wants
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Must have da Ice creams and da Jelly beans and da PIE!
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Do you guys think that we are able to get Android 4.1.2 for TF201?
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If you have an unlocked devices, you'll get it with CM10 quite soon... when Asus will release an update... that's another question... may take a while though...
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We have just had Jellybean and there's already talk of future android versions?
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Android 4.1.2 is Jelly Bean... just a newer release with bug fixes
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Is there even a 4.1.2?
Thought 4.2.x might be the next thing but now there's retractions.
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Yes, 4.1.2 is the new Jelly Bean release... due to be released to AOSP soon...
I would not be suprised if we do not get 4.1.2. We never got 4.0.4. If it is not needed or if 4.2 is just around the corner, they would not be working on it as they would have to just restart the work for 4.2.
As I understand it, the only new feature is Landscape Mode for the Nexus 7 launcher. The rest is bugfixes, so if the Bugs are present on the TFP, we might get an update, otherwise the update would be useless.
If you have an unlocked bootloader and the Jelly Bean bootloader... I've compiled CM10 which has the Android 4.1.2 changes... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32607769&postcount=690
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I would not be suprised if we do not get 4.1.2. We never got 4.0.4. If it is not needed or if 4.2 is just around the corner, they would not be working on it as they would have to just restart the work for 4.2.
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The engineers have to take 3 weeks holiday first....
It look like we might get 4.2.1 for the note. i know it not the I717 but if they get the update to it i think we will too.
"Just because use the Samsung GALAXY Note II just about out specs the original in every way doesn't mean that no one loves the poor Samsung GALAXY Note. In fact, Android 4.2.1 has leaked for the 5 incher and software version N7000XXLSA happens to be the first Jelly Bean update ever leaked for the device. So far, Samsung hasn't included much S-Pen functionality with the Jelly Bean source code, something that is sure to be addressed before the software update becomes official.
It should be noted that unlike the N7000XXLSA leak revealed by Xda, which came from a dump of a person's device, a source for SamMobile says that the version of the update that we are discussing came right from Samsung's servers. All you need to do is flash the update with Odin and you're updated. Again, the issue with the S-Pen would concern us a little and you might want to wait for the official OTA update which is supposed to arrive late this year or early next year.
Among the cool changes included with the update are Project Butter (or is it "I can't believe it's not Project Butter?"), Multiwindows, customized notification panel, Pop-up Play, Smart Rotation and Google Now."
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It look like we might get 4.2.1 for the note. i know it not the I717 but if they get the update to it i think we will too.
"Just because use the Samsung GALAXY Note II just about out specs the original in every way doesn't mean that no one loves the poor Samsung GALAXY Note. In fact, Android 4.2.1 has leaked for the 5 incher and software version N7000XXLSA happens to be the first Jelly Bean update ever leaked for the device. So far, Samsung hasn't included much S-Pen functionality with the Jelly Bean source code, something that is sure to be addressed before the software update becomes official.
It should be noted that unlike the N7000XXLSA leak revealed by Xda, which came from a dump of a person's device, a source for SamMobile says that the version of the update that we are discussing came right from Samsung's servers. All you need to do is flash the update with Odin and you're updated. Again, the issue with the S-Pen would concern us a little and you might want to wait for the official OTA update which is supposed to arrive late this year or early next year.
Among the cool changes included with the update are Project Butter (or is it "I can't believe it's not Project Butter?"), Multiwindows, customized notification panel, Pop-up Play, Smart Rotation and Google Now."
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1000 post on same topic of" we could get it cuz international did"
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1000 post on same topic of" we could get it cuz international did"
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That was a TypeO they meant 4.1.2 and also only for N7000 not I717