I want to give something back to the developers.
I've a new fancy phone, and I'm eager to have root access so I can restore an image of "good for enterprise" that doesn't scramble the communication port (only for verizon does it do this, and then they charge you $15 per month to "unscramble" it).
I know the devs are hard at work on rooting the device, and it will happen regardless of anything I do, but I am pledging $20 as a paypal donation to whichever development group (or individual) comes up with the first reliable rooting method for our verizon phones.
I don't consider this an "incentive" since everyone is already motivated, but rather as a "thank you" gift. Anyone else who would like to pledge, please feel free to use this thread to state your intentions.
Thank you for all you do for us.
I'd be down with a donation myself
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Chitsu said:
I want to give something back to the developers.
I've a new fancy phone, and I'm eager to have root access so I can restore an image of "good for enterprise" that doesn't scramble the communication port (only for verizon does it do this, and then they charge you $15 per month to "unscramble" it).
I know the devs are hard at work on rooting the device, and it will happen regardless of anything I do, but I am pledging $20 as a paypal donation to whichever development group (or individual) comes up with the first reliable rooting method for our verizon phones.
I don't consider this an "incentive" since everyone is already motivated, but rather as a "thank you" gift. Anyone else who would like to pledge, please feel free to use this thread to state your intentions.
Thank you for all you do for us.
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What is this scramble of the com port you are speaking of?
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What is this scramble of the com port you are speaking of?
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I've scoured google for answers to the question, "why is verizon the only carrier that charges it's users $15/mo to use this application?"
I'm coming over from Sprint, which does not charge for this.
After a few calls to customer service, I was able to determine that their "feature code" to enable good (which doesn't directly charge you any money) places your device in a different tier of service (which does cost you more). So technically (and more importantly, legally) you aren't paying for "good" but rather, you are paying for "encrypted corporate data services".
Trying to determine HOW they accomplished this lead me to posts and commentary from users that explained if you select "other" during setup, when prompted to select your carrier, the app will work fine, but if you select "verizon" the app will not connect.
So, the best explaination I have found so far is that Good has collaborated with Verizon on this deal, and when you install it on a verizon phone, it switches port 8080 to some other port. Then, when you call verizon and enter their "feature" code, they give you the $15 add-on charge and either push a config to the app to put it back on 8080, or, they put in NAT rules to re-route the obscure port back to 8080.
Some say that they've not been prompted to select a carrier on the newer versions, so they may have disabled that work around.
Others have said that they were able to call up and cancel the feature, and it still worked, but then more recent posters say this doesn't work anymore either.
So, my hope is that if I do a titanium restore of my ICS epic4g Sprint install, that:
A: It will actually work on Jellybean/NoteII
B: Whatever hijinks good/verizon are doing on the back end to soak users out of MORE money will be circumvented.
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I know there are a lot of threads and tutorials on how to do this, but my question is who is currently using a Sprint Touch pro with verizon and how are you doing it? I read that verizon blocked the way that everyone used to do it with *228 option 3, and I wanted to know if there was an alternate way of doing it before I go and buy one.
I am right now, got mine in while the loophole was still open. There is a way to have the esn added by calling cust service but it may take numerous calls to find someone who knows how to add the esn into the system. I am thinking of selling mine. I wonder if it has been on the account once if it will be able to be activated like normal since it was in the system once? I may toy with this and reactivate my vogue then try to reactivate my tp. Might be a plus for a selling point if i can...
No it wont reactivate, if you used the loophole and switch devices it will not reactivate.
Trust me I did this and had to do an ESN repair to get it working again.
I have been looking at the specs for the alltel TP and it seems that they are really similar to Sprints, and if it is known that a sprint TP will not work with verizon anymore i will just get the Alltel one. since verizon bought them it should be easier to add the Alltel one than the sprint one, they might not like it and try saying they can't but I am sure I can get them to do it. thanks for all your help.
RE: Alltel TP on VZW
No Dice on the Alltel Touch Pro on the VZW network! At least for me.
I think the sprint touch pro will work on vzw. The main thing is to setup the phone first and then some how get them to add the esn. That is what i had to do to get alltel to add my sprint touch pro.
you just need to quote the CSA to them that states that you can use any CDMA compatable phone here is the quote from their CSA "Your wireless phone is any device you use to receive our wireless voice or data service. It must comply with Federal Communications Commission regulations and be compatible with our network and your Plan. Whether you buy your wireless phone from us or someone else is entirely your choice. At times we may change your wireless phone's software, applications or programming remotely and without notice. This could affect data you've stored on, the way you've programmed or the way you use your wireless phone. If you purchased a wireless phone (other than a "global phone") from Verizon Wireless for use with a plan with a minimum term and want to reprogram your phone for use with another wireless carrier network, the default service programming code is set to "000000" or "123456." Verizon Wireless in no way guarantees that your Verizon Wireless phone will be capable of being reprogrammed for use with another wireless carrier network after the service programming code is entered, or that another wireless carrier will accept your device for use on its network" this is the post that I found. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=75164&page=2
I work for verizon and they have this 'come one come all' but it only depends on the person you get as a CSR. There is a request form where you can fill out the phone make, model, and ESN and email/fax it into the people that actually do it for you. I've performed the request without fail. If I can remember to get the request form, I'll post it here as soon as I can.
if you know how to get the esn added, i would love to find out. i went round and round with verizon customer service, sales, tech support and store reps about trying to get a sprint mogul setup for my girlfriend. everyone kept telling me it couldnt be done or they dont do that. found the entry in their websites faq that states they do before anyone would listen to me. was finally told i had to send the phone to their development evaluation center before they could activate it, and that it would take three weeks! so if you have an easier way, please, enlighten me! ps..didnt mean to jack the thread
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if you know how to get the esn added, i would love to find out. i went round and round with verizon customer service, sales, tech support and store reps about trying to get a sprint mogul setup for my girlfriend. everyone kept telling me it couldnt be done or they dont do that. found the entry in their websites faq that states they do before anyone would listen to me. was finally told i had to send the phone to their development evaluation center before they could activate it, and that it would take three weeks! so if you have an easier way, please, enlighten me! ps..didnt mean to jack the thread
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all they will do is change the settings to be compatible with their network, nothing that you can't do yourself. here is some info about how to do it yourself.
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I work for verizon and they have this 'come one come all' but it only depends on the person you get as a CSR. There is a request form where you can fill out the phone make, model, and ESN and email/fax it into the people that actually do it for you. I've performed the request without fail. If I can remember to get the request form, I'll post it here as soon as I can.
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that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
can someone add my esn or point me in right direction?
please i have had this phone for weeks and havent got any where
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Take it to a TMO store, I doubt anyone here will be too willing to help giving the possibility that you may have a stolen device.
If it is rooted there is a way, I don't have the link, but you use adb to pull and edit one of the db's , if it is not rooted, then most likely SOL ...
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i work at a cellphone repair shop. we also buy sale and trade phones. i use XDA a lot for the new android phones coming out when people have problems.
my coworker bought a vibrant from a customer that came into our store, the thing is that now the phone is patterned locked and we dont know the original email address. he said that it was working fine when he first purchased it. my guess is the customer unlocked it before my coworker played around with the phone.
anyways, no i didnt steal it. or any of that bs. we have a business license, a store front, and 99.9% feedback on ebay.
pm me if theres a way. willing to paypal for info.
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if you really did buy it, then call the person up and ask them.... unless i'm mistaken if any store buys stuff from customers they're supposed to document all information in case the item has been stolen
The phone is locked regardless. There is an android bug that doesn't allow the phone to verify the google credentials after you try the pattern lock too many times. Even if if was the OP's actual phone, he'd need to either factory reset, flash a new rom to the device, or get a replacement phone.
No one here will be able to help you get past it. There were security holes that allowed people to bypass it, but Google has sinec patched those, without fixing the fundamental issue (users, their children, their friends locking them out and basically "bricking" the device for all intents and purposes).
You got got, and it's probably a stolen device (not saying you stole it, someone else could have).
If you go to T-Mobile they will ask for you account information and check the IMEI against you account. T-Mobile uses different bands as AT&T so there aren't that many people buying Vibrants up front to unlock them and use them on different carriers, TBQH. If that IMEI belongs to someone else (it's even on you contract/reciept), they won't replace the phone. They will assume it's stolen.
Maybe if you start a contract/new line the reps in the store may help you out, though.
However, contacting Samsung may yield better results, but I think the Warranty is handled by T-Mobile, unless it's a hardware defect (hardware locked devices and pattern lockouts are both software issues).
"No i didn't steal it"
LOL
:/........
Nvm, lol
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If it is rooted you could always try this ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485988
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if you really did buy it, then call the person up and ask them.... unless i'm mistaken if any store buys stuff from customers they're supposed to document all information in case the item has been stolen
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yep, good call there. if the op purchased the phone he should have all of the sellers info on file.
I've read today that all Android phones (and others) have Carrier IQ installed in them at the factory to that is capable of transmitting keystrokes, website visits, email and SMS data to the carrier.
My questions is, Can we build a ROM without it? Below is the link referring to the software.
Thanks.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-5...ets-secretly-logging-keystrokes-sms-messages/
With all of your reading you forgot to read the multiple threads in this forum about this.
No our phones don't have it right now so no we can not remove it.
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I've read today that all Android phones (and others) have Carrier IQ installed in them at the factory to that is capable of transmitting keystrokes, website visits, email and SMS data to the carrier.
My questions is, Can we build a ROM without it? Below is the link referring to the software.
Thanks.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-5...ets-secretly-logging-keystrokes-sms-messages/
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Whoever told you all android phones had it was an idiot. Only some of them do - nearly all Sprint units, only newer AT&T units like the ****rocket and the Gingerbread updates for Infuse do.
(Probably Cappy GB has it and future updates for ours might.)
From what I understand, it doesn't send anything out of phones that have it installed, it just echoes data to the debug console.
Do you really think att needs that software to know your physical location? Does att need that to read your SMS? Know what numbers you dial?
Att could probably easily identify if you tether, or load a custom ROM on your phone. Its a matter of priority, and whether its worth the effort. Everything you do on your phone runs through their services. They know everything.
A program like that may make it easier for them to get the data, but I doubt it gives them any information that they couldn't get themselves if they really wanted it.
I don't see the big deal about it. What do I care if att knows where I am, who I call, and what I text, they already know all that. If att collecting data about how I use my phone leads to a better optimised data network, or better coverage then go for it.
What's next? People upset that google may be reading your Gmail? Or Comcast knowing what you watch on TV? Your credit card company knowing where you shop?
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Do you really think att needs that software to know your physical location? Does att need that to read your SMS? Know what numbers you dial?
Att could probably easily identify if you tether, or load a custom ROM on your phone. Its a matter of priority, and whether its worth the effort. Everything you do on your phone runs through their services. They know everything.
A program like that may make it easier for them to get the data, but I doubt it gives them any information that they couldn't get themselves if they really wanted it.
I don't see the big deal about it. What do I care if att knows where I am, who I call, and what I text, they already know all that. If att collecting data about how I use my phone leads to a better optimised data network, or better coverage then go for it.
What's next? People upset that google may be reading your Gmail? Or Comcast knowing what you watch on TV? Your credit card company knowing where you shop?
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Said like a true lamb... lol
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Said like a true lamb... lol
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By call means, enlighten me.
How should the system work? How do they deliver your message if they don't know what to send? How do they connect your call if they don't know what you dialed? How do they send you a website without knowing the web address you input? How do they route a call to you if they don't know what towers you are connected to, and where those towers are?
My point is that people are up in arms because att has has access to data that you give them on a daily basis. They need that data to serve you as a customer.
Nothing you do on the internet, or using wireless networks will ever be truly private. The only thing changing here is how the data is collected, not whether the data is collected.
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quarlow said:
By call means, enlighten me.
How should the system work? How do they deliver your message if they don't know what to send? How do they connect your call if they don't know what you dialed? How do they send you a website without knowing the web address you input? How do they route a call to you if they don't know what towers you are connected to, and where those towers are?
My point is that people are up in arms because att has has access to data that you give them on a daily basis. They need that data to serve you as a customer.
Nothing you do on the internet, or using wireless networks will ever be truly private. The only thing changing here is how the data is collected, not whether the data is collected.
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Very well said.
I can't really post a link but it seems like it has access to more than just your general txt/call/web data
From what I read in an article from Huffingtonpost.com
"The application, which is labeled on Eckhart’s HTC smartphone as "HTC IQ Agent," also logs the URL of websites searched on the phone, even if the user intends to encrypt that data using a URL that begins with "HTTPS," Eckhart said."
and from electronista.com
"The video also shows that the software records keystrokes. It likewise records calls with network strength values, which primarily allows carriers to fix problems but could also be used to intercept data. CarrierIQ is also collecting keystrokes of incompleted calls and even random keystrokes, or more than it needs
When using Wi-Fi, CarrierIQ records website security information, including URL and even passwords sent over the ostensibly secure HTTPS. This doesn't involve Sprint, as it's on Wi-Fi, so it shouldn't be recorded, Holly concludes."
In my opinion, it's one thing to know that a carrier obviously has access to much of this information if and when they should need it for court orders and other legal reasons. It's an entirely other thing though to specifically have software installed and intertwined into the core of the phone that has the potential to feed this information in another manner which obviously isn't explained to the end user.
I don't do anything on my phone that I wouldn't want them to see for very obvious reasons as stated above. But I would like to have at least the 'appearance' that not everything I do is going to be sifted through by AT&T or a 3rd party vendor. This type of software and the relative 'hush-hush' nature of it doesn't give me that feeling. It's like a rogue app just sitting in a dormant state waiting for AT&T or whoever to fire it up and log away.
Ok I'll end the paranoia and I don't think we have a basis to point our finger one way or the other yet, but clearly it's something I think that needs to be clarified and understood better.
Back in the olde timey days when folks just had land lines with which to communicate, the FCC made it illegal for third parties - yes, even carriers - to intercept and disclose conversations of their customers to third parties. Have we come all the way around to "let them use my personal communications as they see fit since they have it anyway?" I never thought I would see relatively sophisticated users, such as several of those contributing here, say "I do nothing wrong so I don't care who uses my data and for what purpose." Yikes.
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Back in the olde timey days when folks just had land lines with which to communicate, the FCC made it illegal for third parties - yes, even carriers - to intercept and disclose conversations of their customers to third parties. Have we come all the way around to "let them use my personal communications as they see fit since they have it anyway?" I never thought I would see relatively sophisticated users, such as several of those contributing here, say "I do nothing wrong so I don't care who uses my data and for what purpose." Yikes.
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Welcome to the Patriot act.
[Obligatory favorable statement about the Patriot Act]
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I to agree with the carriers already know EVERYTHING we do. Whether we like it or not, that's how it works. But that takes place on THEIR end.
What I don't like is not knowing if it's secure. Main reason so many people were ticked their iphone were tracking them. Most knew it could be done, but the fact it stored that info on their phone with no encryption what-so-ever.
This is on OUR end now. The more ways to access everything we do, the greater the security risk.
If I get the choice, I'm definitely getting it off my phone. But if they prove it's without doubt secure? I still don't like it, but I'd feel a whole lot better about it. So what's the chance that will happen?
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Here if yall want to know about CIQ. Good Read and good information for you to mull over. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/the-storm-is-not-over-yet-lets-talk-about-ciq/ Oh and MOST Devices that have this stupid thing on it that get root the first thing to get disabled is this little gem so I wouldn't worry about it too horribly much. I have seen a dev going around that strictly is going through phones that have it and removing it.
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Here if yall want to know about CIQ. Good Read and good information for you to mull over. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/the-storm-is-not-over-yet-lets-talk-about-ciq/ Oh and MOST Devices that have this stupid thing on it that get root the first thing to get disabled is this little gem so I wouldn't worry about it too horribly much. I have seen a dev going around that strictly is going through phones that have it and removing it.
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Good article...
Oh yea here is a link that I found over in the HTC Vivid section just in case CIQ ever does hit our device I would assume the same thing could be done to remove it from the SGSII....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370541
@Kadin
Yea good article although a bit scary when you see all this thing does.
quarlow said:
Do you really think att needs that software to know your physical location? Does att need that to read your SMS? Know what numbers you dial?
Att could probably easily identify if you tether, or load a custom ROM on your phone. Its a matter of priority, and whether its worth the effort. Everything you do on your phone runs through their services. They know everything.
A program like that may make it easier for them to get the data, but I doubt it gives them any information that they couldn't get themselves if they really wanted it.
I don't see the big deal about it. What do I care if att knows where I am, who I call, and what I text, they already know all that. If att collecting data about how I use my phone leads to a better optimised data network, or better coverage then go for it.
What's next? People upset that google may be reading your Gmail? Or Comcast knowing what you watch on TV? Your credit card company knowing where you shop?
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If the carrier can do all this already then you have to wonder why they have to put something like Carrier IQ on our phones.
I send email last week asking "why cant I unlock the bootloader?"
here is Verizon's answer:
Good Morning Mr. XXXX,
Thank you for contacting Verizon Wireless through our website. My name is Michelle, and I understand that you're questioning the bootloader on your HTC Rezound. I certainly know the importance of being aware of the features on your device. I'll be glad to assist you today.
Mr. XXX, The bootloader is locked on an Android device because although it’s an open source OS, still the manufacturers want you to stick to their Android OS version specifically designed for the device. Additionally, the Bootloader is locked on each device so that only the Verizon Wireless operating system can be ran.
I apologize for the inconvenience.
Please know that unlocking the Bootloader or rooting your device will void your warranty. We also don't offer assistance for Non-Verizon Wireless software.
I also wanted to inform you that I attempted to contact you on your mobile number ending in XXXX, unfortunately I was unable to reach you. I was calling to assist you with your concern and verity your account. According to our records, you previously added a password to your account. For your protection this password must be verified before I can discuss your account or process any changes. I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and hope you understand our desire to protect account privacy.
Please note: The account password referred to on the website "Contact Us" page is not the same as the password you created for your online "My Verizon" service.
If you have forgotten your password, please contact Customer Service at 800 922-0204 or dial *611(send) from your wireless phone. Both numbers are airtime free. We will be able to verify secondary information with you to ensure the security of your account.
Mr. XXXX, If you have any additional questions, please don't hesitate to contact me directly. You can reach me at 803-231-1787. My normal business hours are 7:00am - 4:00pm EST, Monday - Friday. Your call will go to voicemail, please leave a message, advising the best time and number to contact you.
If outside of my business hours, you may also call Verizon Wireless Technical Support Department at 1-800-922-0204 and select option 3 from a landline phone to speak with a representative who will walk you through step-by-step instructions to troubleshoot the issue. Our Data Technical Support Department is open from 6:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m., daily. Please have your wireless phone fully charged and available when you call.
I look forward to providing you with any additional assistance that may be needed.
I hope the information that I have provided for you today regarding Bootloading on your device was helpful
I make it my personal goal to resolve all of your wireless concerns. I hope I have done that for you today. We appreciate your business and thank you for using Verizon Wireless.
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the Bootloader is locked on each device so that only the Verizon Wireless operating system can be ran.
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I didn't know that Verizon had their own OS
Sounds like your typical corporate pr talking head doublespeak. Too bad there aren't any people with real answers to contact us. Until they see some real numbers that this stance is hurting sales I doubt we will get results. But I Prefer to think there still a chance. Let's keep throwing pellets of complaints @ there sites of communication. Solidarity fellow activists of occupy verizon - htc - google.!
Verizon is so full of crap.
Sounds like one of the most honest answers so far, they want phones to stay on their network so they can keep raking in the cash. It's a ****ty business practice either way.
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I've been trying all day to unlock a T-mobile galaxy s4. T-mobile refuses to do it; and I would almost rather throw the phone away than sell it (I fix screens, so I buy em broke then resell them), because that might give T-mobile another customer.
I called them up and they say they do that to "protect customers". I didn't need to be rude to the representatives, but how is THAT supposed to work? Isn't a phone reported stolen blocked on a all carriers!?
So, what I've tried so far:
1.) Dialing: *#0011# - hitting back button - entering 1.. doesn't work. Gives me a screen something along the lines of "Menu does not Exist.. current command 11".
2.) *#197328640# takes me to a debug screen;
3.) "Service mode for Samsung" says: "Your device does not Support this Samsung chipset.
4.) I tried literally dozens of other *#xxx# codes. (So if technicians were supposed to have access to this level control before things got out what do they do now?)
5. Several "secret code revealer" apps.
6.) Looked into Dr. Phone claims to support rooting Samsung; I have a supported OS but it won't install and their help does not even claim to be fast (nor does it seem to get a lot of respect.)
7.) I *COULD* try rooting.
a.) Towelroot's webpage has a bad security certificate.
b.) The other root program I looked into: my antivirus didn't like it. (Among other problems I found a few minutes later.)
c.) There are 3 dozen websites for every root method available; these *HAVE* to be installing spyware or why else would so many people be bothering to maintain a website for other peoples root!? (Mabye some make money off the advertising lol.)
It seems like the only SAFE way that I have to remove root is learn Java, browse the CVS or other root source code and implement it myself! ...Then even at that, if they guy who *created* android screwed up enough to let me root it *I* obviously can't certify anything as safe.
I'd really love to protect my customers WITHOUT rewarding T-mobile for it's bad behavoir by putting on of their locked phones back on the market.
Thanks!
Edit: Thanks to this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2734094 I can get into the UMTS menu, but the entries I need are missing.
As far as I know, there's also paid unlocking, using a third party service. Still, T-Mobile is a bit expensive to unlock, since it's not done by code.
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I've been trying all day to unlock a T-mobile galaxy s4. T-mobile refuses to do it; and I would almost rather throw the phone away than sell it (I fix screens, so I buy em broke then resell them), because that might give T-mobile another customer...
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Your best bet is to post your question within the following thread that's device and carrier specific.
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