I have been using various flavours of XXLSJ and one time or another have required restoring my nandroid backup. Funny thing is that when I do a nandroid restore, it does not really restore the image like it was before. Example is if I changed my battery icon from green to blue and then decided it was not for me. When I try to flash a mod that would get me back to green it does not work. So then I decide to do a nandroid restore and after restore, my statusbar has not been restored like when I backed it up. Still blue battery. Ha ha. It appears the systemui.apk was not backed up and the restore actually does not replace the preload folder or am I wrong.
I think that because of the file structure of the leaked XXLSJ it has a preload folder where all the system files go. And when I changed my battery to blue, I had to replace my systemUI.apk which was in the preload folder. My question is: Does nandroid backup actually backup the preload folder? Or does it just back up the system folder which contains links to the actual apps? This is the only answer I can think of. Guys I am sure you had this experience. I am using PHILZ kernel if that helps since this is the only kernel currently working with the leaked rom. Anybody care to comment? Hope we get some answers.
I have had the same problem, one time I make a backup then tried a mod I didn't like restored the backup but it was only partially reverted. Some new features persisted will some did revert.
So the backup system definitely needs updated to deal with the preload partition.
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So I got a replacement Vibrant from T-mo. I already rooted it, and now I am trying to figure out the easiest way to trasnser everything from my old phone (running Bionix, a 2.2 rom) to the new phone which is running JI6 2.1.
I already rooted and installed clockwork on the replacement. Can I just make a nandoid backup on the old phone, running bionix, and transer that nandroid backup to the new replacement phone running stock 2.1 and do a nandroid restore?
If I remember correctly, nandroid does not backup/restore the kernel...So should I just flash a 2.2 kernel on the new phone, then while still in recovery restore the nandroid backup from the old phone?
This seems like the easiest way to get the new replacement running like the old one.
Any help is appreciated
Edit- also, if I restore the nandroid, it should do my photos and videos too?
Yes. Just move your backup folder with the saved file into your clockwork mod folder inside your phone then you can run restore your old settings.
Thanks for the response. Regarding the kernel from current 2.1 and doing a nandroid restore to 2.2, do I need to flash a 2.2 kernel before the nandroid restore?
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Nandroid does not restore your kernel. I would dl your kernel, put it in root of your sd,. Put the nandroid on the sdcard. Reboot into recovery, wipe, restore nandroid, clear cache, fix permissions, flash kernel. Reboot, let phone sit for 10mins, reboot, use as normal.
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Nandroid will only restore system, apps and app data. Pics and personal address content will not be included. For a full transfer you will need to copy your entire old sdcard to the new one... on the old phone - make Nandroid, copy entire sdcard to new phone, add kernel to the new sdcard and follow instructions above.
I tried copying my pics over and it made a folder in gallery with like 2100 thumbnails... I only have about 200 pics... its weird, looks like it just keeps repeating the pics over and over
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That is strange. Did you copy the old sdcard to your computer first, do you still have a copy there, What does the backup folder contain?
Or it might be quicker just to mount the new sdcard, nuke the thumbnails and be done with it.
I'm curious about this. Maybe someone can enlighten me.
Lets say that I'm on stock 2.2, rooted. I do a nandroid backup. Then I allow the upgrade for 2.2.2. Of course I lose root.
Will a nandroid restore, restore root, or will I have to root again?
A full nandroid restore will restore everything - the system and data - and you will be right back where you were, on 2.2 and rooted.
maltloaf said:
A full nandroid restore will restore everything - the system and data - and you will be right back where you were, on 2.2 and rooted.
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Ahh, okay.
So to confirm that I understand you correctly...
...the 2.2.2 update won't hold after the nandroid restore? I'll be back to 2.2, as it was before the (2.2.2) update?
If you just wanna backup and restore your apps, use Titanium Backup (it's free on the Market).
Nandroid backs up your entire phone. When you restore a nandroid backup your phone will be exactly like it was when you made the backup. Restoring a nandroid backup is used to recover from a crash or to revert to a previous ROM.
After a ROM change I will set up my accounts, root if needed and do any other basic setup stuff and then, before installing any apps, do a nandroid backup. I can then go back to a "fresh install" if I want to. I also do a nandroid each weekly to capture the state of my phone.
Backing up apps and restoring them across different ROMs may or may not work for you. When I have tried this with Titanium Backup I had many force closes and ended up reinstalling everything from the market. Others have had success. I have read the MyBackup pro does better, but most suggest that you just backup and restore data not the app itself.
I have not tried backing up my apps to Google, which you can do in later versions of Android. Go to Privacy in the setting menu and then to Backup and restore. There are boxes for data backup and automatic restore you can check. maybe someone who has used this can comment on how well it works.
If your nandroid backups hang up at "backing up firstboot" get the latest version of StreakMod Recovery.
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Backing up apps and restoring them across different ROMs may or may not work for you. When I have tried this with Titanium Backup I had many force closes and ended up reinstalling everything from the market. Others have had success. I have read the MyBackup pro does better, but most suggest that you just backup and restore data not the app itself.
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After installing a fresh ROM and rooting my device, the first thing I do is install Busybox. Then, with Titanium Backup I do Restore Apps Only, then reboot my device. I never get any FC's with this restore process.
Thanks!
Thank you everyone. I appreciate the info.
I've used Titanium BU, and have busybox installed too.
It was just a matter of if after an update (OTA), and restore with Nandroid, would root still be in place.
I totally understand what you guys are saying now.
I've also been using MyBackup to see how it compares to Titanium. So far so good.
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I prefer mybackup root to titanium. It's far more user friendly and more automated (in the free version). As for nandroids, I always take a backup before doing any system changes (hacks or rom updates) so I can roll back to a known good system if needs be.
BTW - it is a good idea to copy your ROM backups to another device, just in case your SD card dies. I copy mine to one of my desktop computers and to a USB drive. I usually back up my entire SD card, except my music folders, every couple of weeks.
Where does Nandroid put the backups so I can rename them and save off phone?
mine (from Streakmod recovery) are in /sdcard/rom_backup
StreakMod recovery puts the backups on the SD Card in a folder named rom_backup.
Each backup is in a sub-folder of it's own and uses a date-time format for the folder name. I rename the folders with a meaningful name by just pre-pending to the name. So my last backup is named BB351-2011-06-18-02.41.04. The following files are created:
.android_secure.img
boot.img
cache.img
data.img
firstboot.img
recovery.img
system.img
nandroid.md5
the md5 file is a text file that contains the md5 sums for the other files. This file is used to verify the other files when they are restored.
Hi All,
The latest carrier stock rom KF3 has just been released and I noticed it doesn't contain a dbdata partition. I'm assuming this is so you don't lose your apps and settings when you flash it.
Just a couple of questions though.
1. If I make changes to the framework on the phone eg. adding a circle battery mod, and one day decide I want to revert back to the original stock rom, will I need to find a different stock rom (one that contains a dbdata partition) in order to revert back to a stock framework? .
I vaguely remember having to do this with my SGS otherwise I'd end up with a boot loop.
If I need a different stock rom that contains the dbata partition, can anyone suggest one that I can download? I don't particularly want to download random stock roms at 500MB a piece looking for one that contains a dbdata partition to rebuild it
2. What exactly is backed up when doing a nandroid backup? Eg. Is the /efs directory backed up as well? Is the Framework backed up etc? In other words, what is/isn't backed up in a nandroid backup?
I used the EFS Backup tool to create a backup. Now I need it, but can't restore.
It won't find the backup. Anyone have any suggestions?
Resolved. Not sure how, but back to normal.
All I was doing was making a nandroid backup via CWM and when I rebooted my IMEI was unkown and I had no radio function.
Reboot. Shut down. Start. Nothing.
Tried to restore, but the EFS Backup Pro tool could not see my backup (not sure why).
Saw no progress in the restore other than the notice that the restore wasn't found.
Rebooted, radio working. IMEI restored.
Made a new backup, just in case.
Okay, so I've had it happen again.
Should I use EFS Backup Pro to reformat and restore my EFS?
Sorry, I don't have your solution.
I just want to say: Hope you can solve it fast and definity!
Seems to only happen when the device is rebooted while connected to the charger.
If you can get your phone back up and running again like before then Id go to the link below and backup your EFS folder.Do both types of backup,save to SD and PC and then might be a good idea to follow the instructions as to doing a wipe and then restore.But do both types of backup incase one of them gives you problems when you try to restore.better safe than sorry.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308546
I made both backups after I was able to get it running with my IMEI and modem functioning.
Cleared cache and Dalvik and reflashed the kernel also.
If I have the problem again, I'll do a wipe and manually restore everything.
I'll keep the thread update, just in case this happens to anyone else.
Are you using a Custom ROM?
No. Stock KK5. Have not had the problem since.
Mate thats not good from a stock firmware.maybe you it would be a good idea to flash back to a previous one to see if it still happens if this has happened since you changed to KK5.Possible bug,and a big one too.Id flash back to your previous FW then root and do a full system/cache /data format to clean up the device just in case and see is it still happens.
When you get it working again try Hellcta's kTool.
Among other things, it can backup and restore EFS folder.
2 backups .tar.gz & .img saved directly to sdcard & can verify the backups too.
ive read in the other threads that we should be doing backup when flashing kernels.
how important is it to backup for just flashing a kernel? is it even worth it? Im gonna be flashing Siyah Kernel
I heard nandroid only backups phone settings? did i understand it correctly?
Is it better to root first before doing backup? or should I unroot my phone first?
Please tell me if I got it right
Titanium = app backup?
cwm = nandroid backup?
a bit offtopic but does anyone experience battery drainage when connected to wi-fi even when not doing anything like surfing etc.?
anthony001 said:
ive read in the other threads that we should be doing backup when flashing kernels.
how important is it to backup for just flashing a kernel? is it even worth it? Im gonna be flashing Siyah Kernel
Your choice but a reasonably recent backup should be ok .
I heard nandroid only backups phone settings? did i understand it correctly?
NO it backs up all bar EFS and Modem .
Is it better to root first before doing backup? or should I unroot my phone first?
Not relevant as you cannot backup without root.
Please tell me if I got it right
Titanium = app backup?
YES
cwm = nandroid backup?
And more
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anthony001 said:
ive read in the other threads that we should be doing backup when flashing kernels.
how important is it to backup for just flashing a kernel? is it even worth it? Im gonna be flashing Siyah Kernel
I heard nandroid only backups phone settings? did i understand it correctly?
Is it better to root first before doing backup? or should I unroot my phone first?
Please tell me if I got it right
Titanium = app backup?
cwm = nandroid backup?
a bit offtopic but does anyone experience battery drainage when connected to wi-fi even when not doing anything like surfing etc.?
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Nandroid backup makes images of yours phone partitions and saves them into separated files. Truly, I never needed to restore any backup, You doing this only for a precaution measures.
Titanium Backup stores only your .apk, their data and settings. Nandroid saves all and put it into safe place (including whole system).
It's good to have both of backups, but TB can also extract .apk from nandroid backup. In this case nandroid backup is much better.
OT: WiFi always draining your battery because of notification wakelocks and working antenna. Set your phone into energy saving mode, it should help.
SirKunon said:
Nandroid backup makes images of yours phone partitions and saves them into separated files. Truly, I never needed to restore any backup, You doing this only for a precaution measures.
Titanium Backup stores only your .apk, their data and settings. Nandroid saves all and put it into safe place (including whole system).
It's good to have both of backups, but TB can also extract .apk from nandroid backup. In this case nandroid backup is much better.
OT: WiFi always draining your battery because of notification wakelocks and working antenna. Set your phone into energy saving mode, it should help.
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really nandroid backups even apk? so lets say i have dino wars installed and fpse so will it also backup those? what about the saves will it also backup the saves? also when using fpse we have a file used to play games which i think is forbidden to write its name will it be backed up too?
anthony001 said:
really nandroid backups even apk? so lets say i have dino wars installed and fpse so will it also backup those? what about the saves will it also backup the saves? also when using fpse we have a file used to play games which i think is forbidden to write its name will it be backed up too?
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Everything in internal partitions system layout and .android secure partition on sdcard... just all you have got actually on your phones internal (system memory). Full backup including kernel, modem, system, apps and their data (saves, settings, etc.)
Of course if game save are stored in internal or external sd-card than its will NOT been stored into nandroid backup, but it remain on those sdcard(s) even after nandroid restore. Only formatting sdcard will remove those saves, data, etc. (also full factory reset with service code formats all phones partition including internal sccard).
If you know what a windows image backup then this works the same restores all .
But EFS and Modem .
Nandroid backup full working phone 10-am
Flash JB xxxx rom and it fails or dont like it .
Restore to 10-am full working phone Nandroid backup .
Modem and EFS stay on the phone the same .
Useful very i have done five Nandroid restores already to day after test modifications .
I also have copy of TB and Nandroid backups on PC just in case .
jje
Important thing is to restore backup on the same recovery (cwm) on which backup was make. If partition layout has changed after nandbacup you also cant restore it, phone will stuck on bootlogo.
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