i think the advantaged of buying android on apple is getting smaller
there no point of buying phone with no battery door
or no sdcard
or low mah battery
my next phone will be iphone
its should be perfect phone specs with android
or nothing
had enuf with lags of android
What is the point of this? Terrible grammar, and completely pointless....good riddance.
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Personal experience speaking here, you have to jailbreak an iPhone to even have a shot at making it as customizable as a stock Android phone, and it's getting harder and harder to jailbreak every generation. And having used both, I'd rather run a stock Android device over a jailbroken iOS device.
Proz00 said:
i think the advantaged of buying android on apple is getting smaller
there no point of buying phone with no battery door
or no sdcard
or low mah battery
my next phone will be iphone
its should be perfect phone specs with android
or nothing
had enuf with lags of android
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the reason why you are lagging, if your sig is correct, you're still running a Ginger Bread rom with an outdated recovery.
If you are still on GB then i would assume you dont have the latest firmware and that i would recommend you updating to the latest ruu before jumping ship.
no the sig not correct
im not talking about my phone
my phone is gr8 just the battery life
im talking about android generally
Cause we all know that iOS has no lag!:good:
zetsumeikuro said:
Cause we all know that iOS has no lag!:good:
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I know you were being sarcastic, but that is a common belief. In reality, iOS does a great job on the Springboard, but for the most part, it uses a lot of visual trickery to hide the lag in other places. In particular, apps don't launch nearly as quickly as people think they do, but you don't get that impression because the OS saves a screenshot of the last state of the app when it closes, and uses that as a load screen so you think it's already loaded. 9 times out of 10, by the time you try to interact with it, it has finished loading. That one time when you beat the app and it does nothing, you write it off as a glitch and move on. I will give them props for being very clever with manipulating psychology to make things feel so smooth, because that's where most of the perception of smoothness comes from.
shrike1978 said:
I know you were being sarcastic, but that is a common belief. In reality, iOS does a great job on the Springboard, but for the most part, it uses a lot of visual trickery to hide the lag in other places. In particular, apps don't launch nearly as quickly as people think they do, but you don't get that impression because the OS saves a screenshot of the last state of the app when it closes, and uses that as a load screen so you think it's already loaded. 9 times out of 10, by the time you try to interact with it, it has finished loading. That one time when you beat the app and it does nothing, you write it off as a glitch and move on. I will give them props for being very clever with manipulating psychology to make things feel so smooth, because that's where most of the perception of smoothness comes from.
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I am sure they have this patented
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My view on technology as a whole is I hate it! I can't stand that I don't know how to operate it and because if that I want something that doesn't want me thinking outside the box. I like my box. I just wanted to come to xda and start a thread about that.
On a side note, I have owned an I phone 4s and while it wasn't for me I did notice lag and didn't condemn the Os or manufacturer. Learn to operate your equipment or please just go get what suits you. Don't rant about how bad something is if you have 0 clue how to go about changing it in a developer website.
Lmao i should go home and yell at my light because it didn't auto dim to my eyes perception of brightness.
u clearly didnt got my point
android is based on java which is slow camper to iOS
android have its advantages on iOS
that we all know
but the today phones with specs i said at OP
doesn't make clearly big advantages on iOS
so for that i think i should change to iOS
cos the better touch and more...
im happy with my rezound really snappy with shrike1978's cm9
but android falling here IMO cos there no much diff.. as i said
i just saying my 2cent opinion
shrike1978 said:
I know you were being sarcastic, but that is a common belief. In reality, iOS does a great job on the Springboard, but for the most part, it uses a lot of visual trickery to hide the lag in other places. In particular, apps don't launch nearly as quickly as people think they do, but you don't get that impression because the OS saves a screenshot of the last state of the app when it closes, and uses that as a load screen so you think it's already loaded. 9 times out of 10, by the time you try to interact with it, it has finished loading. That one time when you beat the app and it does nothing, you write it off as a glitch and move on. I will give them props for being very clever with manipulating psychology to make things feel so smooth, because that's where most of the perception of smoothness comes from.
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Lol yeah I was . Gotta give it to Apple for being the tricky bastards they are.
Proz00 said:
u clearly didnt got my point
android is based on java which is slow camper to iOS
android have its advantages on iOS
that we all know
but the today phones with specs i said at OP
doesn't make clearly big advantages on iOS
so for that i think i should change to iOS
cos the better touch and more...
im happy with my rezound really snappy with shrike1978's cm9
but android falling here IMO cos there no much diff.. as i said
i just saying my 2cent opinion
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Go buy an iPhone and you can do your happy dance afterwards.
I dunno I have played with some pretty nice tip of the line android phones and the Iphone5. Can say if you are quoting any Os before jellybean and any processor before the s4 then maybe you should check out some new Technology, but if your gripe is java based I don't think anyone here can help u there.
Here's a shot, I think a smartphone should have a t9 dialer. I hated that about my old I phone 4. Then I had to buy an app if I wanted to use it for more than 5calls to keep the t9. I loved the camera and the battery was good on my 4s. Ios6 looked identical to ios5. Not very refreshing. Their software is well optimized to their hardware.
I can agree with you in some respects such as I have owned all the nexus lines except the 4. IMHO the nexus should be the fastest and best of all phones. It shouldn't have half ass battery life or a half ass camera and an open Os. Its touted as flagship yet trails in every category other than being but naked aosp.
stkiswr said:
I dunno I have played with some pretty nice tip of the line android phones and the Iphone5. Can say if you are quoting any Os before jellybean and any processor before the s4 then maybe you should check out some new Technology, but if your gripe is java based I don't think anyone here can help u there.
Here's a shot, I think a smartphone should have a t9 dialer. I hated that about my old I phone 4. Then I had to buy an app if I wanted to use it for more than 5calls to keep the t9. I loved the camera and the battery was good on my 4s. Ios6 looked identical to ios5. Not very refreshing. Their software is well optimized to their hardware.
I can agree with you in some respects such as I have owned all the nexus lines except the 4. IMHO the nexus should be the fastest and best of all phones. It shouldn't have half ass battery life or a half ass camera and an open Os. Its touted as flagship yet trails in every category other than being but naked aosp.
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I think Google is going more for affordable and compatible with Nexus than they are top of the line. So far, they've been letting the OEM's handle the top of the line market. For them, it's a win-win. They make reference phones and tablets that show Android at its best, and they keep in good graces with the OEM's by not outshining their latest handsets. It's a valid strategy, but with the new Nexus program in place, it's one that I think they need to branch out from. They're giving the OEM's credit in the name now (Samsung Galaxy Nexus, LG Nexus 4, Samsung Nexus 10, etc), so they can afford to make some high end hardware now without marginalizing the OEM's they depend on. I have disposable income, and I might be willing to pay $650 for a phone if it was true AOSP and had the specs to back up the price, but I don't have much interest in the current Nexus phone lineup, even for the price.
Proz00 said:
u clearly didnt got my point
android is based on java which is slow camper to iOS
android have its advantages on iOS
that we all know
but the today phones with specs i said at OP
doesn't make clearly big advantages on iOS
so for that i think i should change to iOS
cos the better touch and more...
im happy with my rezound really snappy with shrike1978's cm9
but android falling here IMO cos there no much diff.. as i said
i just saying my 2cent opinion
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No please understand I am not arguing with anyone's point. Its just always been my opinion that the nexus should truly be flagship... With a t9 dialer. Excellent battery life. Camera at least on par with the sensor in the Iphone5 or one series or galaxy s line. Even if you had to rely on 3rd party editing apps. Back when HTC made the first nexus it was a solid well made very good phone and really led the pack. Now all nexus since have some for of tradeoff. Technology is booming but one thing apple has done is keep it to themselves. Apple doesn't want verizon, verizon wants apple. Not the same for android. Too many variables. I'm still holding on to the hopes of a moto nexus with a really great camera but that doesn't seem like it's gonna happen. At least moto will put a big ass battery in something, even if they won't use the greatest camera lol.
I like aosp, but just wish there was one aosp device that came in and really put it down in all the right areas. Battery life shouldn't be an issue or excuse anymore, nexus4 doesn't hardly last longer than the old one yet another manufacturer with same processor can get double the battery life. I think I'm just ranting and probably should stop lol
Google does android, they should be setting the bar that others follow but instead the bar gets set by others and they try to catch up every year since the nexus one... Again it's my opinion
Proz00 said:
i think the advantaged of buying android on apple is getting smaller
there no point of buying phone with no battery door
or no sdcard
or low mah battery
my next phone will be iphone
its should be perfect phone specs with android
or nothing
had enuf with lags of android
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Hopefully your iPhone will have better spellcheck....
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Granted, the writer is using an unlocked version of the Galaxy Nexus, so there aren't the network issues we've all come to know & hate, he basically says the phone itself is lacking, and ICS is GREAT! Can't wait til our "premium" phone gets it!
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=...as-pulse+%28Android+Atlas+-+CNET+for+Pulse%29
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The only real low points on the hardware was the camera, and the build quality. The camera on the RAZR is nothing to write home about.. and I've never had an issue with Samsung build quality before...it's just uses a lot of plastic.
To me the more plastic, the less quality. It's a direct relationship as far as quality 'feel' goes.
My last 2 phones were Samsung and I actually liked the plastic. It makes it light and nearly indestructible. Don't hate on a phone unless you've used it for at least a few months. And I'm tired of people saying the GN has a crappy camera because it's 5 MP. Unless you plan on making that photo a 10 foot by 10 foot you won't notice the difference. 32GB is plenty of space and I use WAY less because all my music is on Google Music (10k songs).
All I'm saying is that you'd think Google & Samsung could have put a lot more effort into the physical build of the phone. I'm sure the camera's ok, and the sensor is what's important, but 5mpx to 8mpx really does make a difference (I know because my fiancée and some family & friends constantly say they wished their phones took pics like mine did (EVO 4G, Photon and now the RAZR).
32G IS a lot of space, but the fact is that today's user expects expandable memory, and it wouldn't have been hard to include. Hell, the OG SGT has a micro sd slot, why not a brand new device?
Lastly, plastic is just plain cheap, and really makes a phone feel like something my 10mo old daughter plays with. If you use cheap materials you shouldn't charge "premium" prices.
I haven't touched or used the phone, so my opinion is based on what I've read, but I HAVE fondled my RAZR regularly (it begs for it) and in my experience, it's more top notch. I have a feeling there will be a lot of exchanges from SGN to RAZR. Just my opinion...
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gogreenbay07 said:
My last 2 phones were Samsung and I actually liked the plastic. It makes it light and nearly indestructible. Don't hate on a phone unless you've used it for at least a few months. And I'm tired of people saying the GN has a crappy camera because it's 5 MP. Unless you plan on making that photo a 10 foot by 10 foot you won't notice the difference. 32GB is plenty of space and I use WAY less because all my music is on Google Music (10k songs).
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I would never say one camera is better than another based off megapixels...it's a meaningless bullet point spec. That said...it looks like it may simply not be that great of a camera based off the OTHER more important specs. Looks like it's the same module as seen in the Galaxy/Nexus S...which was "okay" but not nearly on the same level as the SGS II, or the newer iphones.
I would like some help,
Is the phone heat going up to 120F/49C some thing this phone can take or Is that bad.
P.S My S2 never has gone to more than 113F.
IP IHI II IL said:
All I'm saying is that you'd think Google & Samsung could have put a lot more effort into the physical build of the phone. I'm sure the camera's ok, and the sensor is what's important, but 5mpx to 8mpx really does make a difference (I know because my fiancée and some family & friends constantly say they wished their phones took pics like mine did (EVO 4G, Photon and now the RAZR).
32G IS a lot of space, but the fact is that today's user expects expandable memory, and it wouldn't have been hard to include. Hell, the OG SGT has a micro sd slot, why not a brand new device?
Lastly, plastic is just plain cheap, and really makes a phone feel like something my 10mo old daughter plays with. If you use cheap materials you shouldn't charge "premium" prices.
I haven't touched or used the phone, so my opinion is based on what I've read, but I HAVE fondled my RAZR regularly (it begs for it) and in my experience, it's more top notch. I have a feeling there will be a lot of exchanges from SGN to RAZR. Just my opinion...
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http://android-gz.com
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Actual space is 27.3g free, of which apps and data share this same space. As far as tunes in the cloud, MUCH better on battery life to play local on device. Not to mention if in area with weak or no coverage.
as far as camera is concerned on our devices, the sensor is fine, the problem I think has to do with the software and compression.
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I think once the razr gets ICS (and stable dev support) It will give the Galaxy Nexus a strong run for the money. Kinda like how the Nexus S came out after the Galaxy S1 and the S1 was still better.
Actually I once thought that I'll get a Galaxy Nexus, but as soon as I knew that there's no 32GB version available here, I just go for the razr...
robstunner said:
I think once the razr gets ICS (and stable dev support) It will give the Galaxy Nexus a strong run for the money. Kinda like how the Nexus S came out after the Galaxy S1 and the S1 was still better.
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Well.. The Nexus has a higher res and probably better screen. It has a removable battery (important to me in an LTE device). It also has NFC, which could be fun with new tablets.
Not to mention it has a slightly better SoC, the 4460 vs the 4430. The 4460 has a slightly faster GPU in it...but more than likely that will help just close the gap in the resolution difference.
I don't really see how the RAZR will give it a "run for its money" for guys like us the Nexus is simply the better phone. No frickin bootlocker preventing the community from fixing the issues Moto decides to ignore months on end.
EDIT: BTW, I own a Razr...I'm not jsut trolling. It's a good phone, I just think the Nexus is a clear choice if you have an option.
It's in all of the stores now, but they can't sell it. They are having a lot of over-heating phones some to the point ware they melt there backs off!
Any way they are now waiting on a "fix" and may miss there by the end of the year statement.
4ktvs said:
It's in all of the stores now, but they can't sell it. They are having a lot of over-heating phones some to the point ware they melt there backs off!
Any way they are now waiting on a "fix" and may miss there by the end of the year statement.
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Where did you hear that?
4ktvs said:
It's in all of the stores now, but they can't sell it. They are having a lot of over-heating phones some to the point ware they melt there backs off!
Any way they are now waiting on a "fix" and may miss there by the end of the year statement.
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I call bull.
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Grims said:
Well.. The Nexus has a higher res and probably better screen. It has a removable battery (important to me in an LTE device). It also has NFC, which could be fun with new tablets.
Not to mention it has a slightly better SoC, the 4460 vs the 4430. The 4460 has a slightly faster GPU in it...but more than likely that will help just close the gap in the resolution difference.
I don't really see how the RAZR will give it a "run for its money" for guys like us the Nexus is simply the better phone. No frickin bootlocker preventing the community from fixing the issues Moto decides to ignore months on end.
EDIT: BTW, I own a Razr...I'm not jsut trolling. It's a good phone, I just think the Nexus is a clear choice if you have an option.
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Kinda feel the same way, as long as the galaxy nexus comes out before Xmas day as that's my last returnable day.
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I'm feeling the same way. I love the feel of the phone but there are teo major faults that have me thinking I should return it.
The battery is dire. It's nearly out of charge and it is only six hours since it was at 100%.
The wifi reception is beyond bad. I can see six or seven networks with my three year old HTC Hero whereas I only just manage to connect to my own network.
It's a simply beautiful phone but I need it to last a full day and be able to switch to different networks as I move around.
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Hi
I do agree, wi-fi is a little bit weaker on this one as on my desire before, but could connect to all my networks. Real test will happen on monday for wi-fi at the airport, as this was weak on desire also.
Regarding battery life, I really cannot complain, played with the phone on wi-fi for hours ( browsing). From my point of view the battery life is ok.
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Grims said:
I don't really see how the RAZR will give it a "run for its money" for guys like us the Nexus is simply the better phone. No frickin bootlocker preventing the community from fixing the issues Moto decides to ignore months on end.
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For those of us who want a solidly built, robust and quality device the RAZR stomps all over the Nexus from the inside out. I agree that the specs of the Nexus come out ahead and yes it certainly is the more "playful" device for us but that doesn't really matter when it's built like a Samsung. No offence to Samsung but this Moto feels like quality and is quality and sometimes having a stronger foundation is more beneficial in the long run.
Who else goes through the trouble of EMI protection like Moto.
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Dude, research before you said that more EMI shields is a better thing. The reason they need that many is because they had to put every chip on the same side of the PCB. With chips on different side they can use the PCB ground plane as EMI shield so you would see less.
i want all of your opinions on whether or not trade my iphone 4. unloackable for the galaxy NOTE.. can you tell me how long does the battery last on your phone and if it is worth to trade it
thanks
I used to carry both an iphone and an Android phone. After getting the note, I sold my iphone and use android full time.
the battery life is fine. if you are a heavy user, carry a spare battery.
I just switched from an iPhone 4 to the Note about 2 weeks ago. I have absolutely no regrets switching. I have always had an iPhone from the first one in 2007 up until 2 weeks ago and never saw myself switching because of how the build quality of apple and smoothness of iOS was. When I used a note for the first time it blew me away the progress that android has made over the years. While I still don't think the overall build quality of this phone is iPhone status everything else is better. As far as battery goes, unless you plan on trying to go multiple days without charging then it is a non issue. It gets through a day just fine. I will say the battery life does drop faster than my iPhones did but there's really no difference to me as the note gets me through the day with plenty to spare and I charge it every night anyway. Once you get a Note you'll wonder why you used such a small screen before.
I know the screen is really small on iphone .. I used the htc titan before .. N i am thinking of trading it . For a Note but im still in doubt .. Since i am with tmobile . The internet might be the same unless i put the hack to get 4G ..
Is the camera good on the note ?
oswald-josh said:
I know the screen is really small on iphone .. I used the htc titan before .. N i am thinking of trading it . For a Note but im still in doubt .. Since i am with tmobile . The internet might be the same unless i put the hack to get 4G ..
Is the camera good on the note ?
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the camera is brilliant.....great pics. i take pictures and can zoom in on the smallest details of that pic and see it clearly.
The battery life won't be quite as good add your iPhone, but it will still last you through a full day. I can pull about 16 hours total with 4 hours of screen time on a charge, but I try not to look at my phone for 25% of the day anyways. The screen will make you laugh at your iPhone. The iPhone has slightly higher pixel density, but once you go Super AMOLED HD, you won't go back. The SPen also brings more usefulness than you would think. Also, with Android, even without rooting and ROMing, you can still use rings of different kings of launchers, change how your icons look, use different keyboards, and perhaps the oldest argument, view flash content.
Don't get me wrong, I like the design of iPhones, minus the small screen, and their software does run smoothly, but after 3 Android phones there is no way I could go back. IPhones are just too limited for my tastes. With my 3g, I felt like I had a nice phone that could play some cool games. With my Note, I feel like I'm carrying with a tiny computer with limitless tools at my disposal. I also like when other people pick up my phone and have no clue how to use it, but it is still way more streamlined for my own personal use than an iPhone would be.
With Android you decide how you use your phone, not Apple.
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I have ALWAYS blackballed Apple for the proprietary BS... I had to bend once when my wife brought home an ipod she found. I was pretty upset that I had to deflower my xpsl702x with itunes. I am ashamed of myself for allowing this to happen, but I would have been more ashamed of myself for not following my wifes requests.
Traded my iPhone 4 for a Note and I love it
I was a die hard apple zombie.. I once believed like all others that apple would cure world hunger. I traded my iphone 4 for a Motorola artrix then a international galaxy s2 then a skyrocket and now a galaxy note.. I CAN SEE CLEARLY NOW THE RAIN IS GONE..
you will love the note..
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I wrote a review - coming from an iPhone 4S to the Note:
http://isource.com/2012/04/07/review-samsung-galaxy-note-oversized-iphone-killer/
(Only posting a link since it's applicable to the OP).
Short version - I don't regret the decision. You might depending on you love for iOS.
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A picture is worth a thousands words!
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My battery life is actually better with the note then my iPhone 4 was
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Trade it, I have the iPhone 4 at home. It's nothing special.
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There are a lot of Note users that came from the iPhone. I havent seen any regrets so far. I too came from the iPhone 4 to the Original GS2 then skyrocket...then the Note. It just got better everytime. Some iPhone users are way too stubborn to switch but I rather have choices than to "accept" what they give me.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
alright well I'm gonna trust you guys that the camera its really good quality thats what I'm more concern on.. cuz i am a picture fanatic...i wil b trading it for the note... if i don't like it how much are the notes selling for more less any idea ??
oswald-josh said:
alright well I'm gonna trust you guys that the camera its really good quality thats what I'm more concern on.. cuz i am a picture fanatic...i wil b trading it for the note... if i don't like it how much are the notes selling for more less any idea ??
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I like the camera on this phone more than the one on my old ip4. I can't speak for the 4s, but the note has a better camera than ip4.
You also have many more options inside the camera and quick options for uploading images to various apps from within the gallery.
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do you experience any lag on the note??
ii will trade it but I'm afraid the size of the screen will b too much ...
has any of you tyried the 4g hack for tmobile also?
i chickened out on getting the note when i saw the size in person..im a iphone user 4 years and omg the iphone is so small i cant go back to it too small..youll get use to the size of the note..not really pocket friendly but depends on person to person..as for battery give it time to cycle and it will improve..but battery life depends on settings/use/rooted ect.. i love my note but sadly i have another pixel issuse so this one is going back to hopeful get another one with no pixel problems.. only thing i dont like is the camera speed capture its slow for me..battery could have been a 3000mah to give it a bit extra use..sometimes it lags depends how much ram your using and crash some apps could be bugs.. im stock GB..waiting for ICS real one..dont want to install root stuff right now
i switched from iphone to and i love my note will never go back to apple. my batt life is equal to my iphone so no complaints
Do it! If you don't like it I'll happly trade you an iphone 4 32gb unlocked with ssh saved for every firmware plus an otterbox case.
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Good Stuff
Fantastic build quality
Gorgeous display
Really fast, smooth performance
Bad Stuff
Sprint's LTE network isn't ready yet
Mediocre battery life
Sense is still too intrusive
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Head here for whole review...
www.theverge.com/2012/5/11/3012990/htc-evo-4g-lte-review
Engagdet and TheVerge have both had just terrible reviews of this phone (The review quality being the terrible part)
I understand that because it's a variant of a previously released phone they aren't as excited about it, but both of the ones I've read feel rushed and provide no real information.
these review sites are trash. they get the phone for 2 days and pump out all the reasons its bad, but the truth is they dont know how to use the phone or android.
Yup. I never trust those sites for phone reviews. They know nothing about phones
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The lack of an LTE network is an interesting con about the phone. Even without LTE/4G capabilities this phone is still really dope! I'm certainly not buying it for the network. As far as complaints about Sense, well that's what you get when you purchase an HTC phone- if you don't like Sense, install a custom ROM or stay away from HTC. The battery life complaints are shocking to me- I can't imagine it being that bad. With improvements in power management or ICS, the S4 processor, and Sense 4.0 it seems bizarre that battery life could be only mediocre considering I had excellent battery life on my E3D.
Anyhoo, as always I take these reviews with a grain of salt because there is only one review that really matters- mine.
How can they say Sense is still too intrusive as a con?..IMHO if you buy an HTC phone you kind of know what you are getting into...Get over your complex and buy a stinking nexus device..
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BrianBaker said:
How can they say Sense is still too intrusive as a con?..IMHO if you buy an HTC phone you kind of know what you are getting into...Get over your complex and buy a stinking nexus device..
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Agreed! plus most HTC phones such as the EVO line get AOSP builds that work just as well as the builds ran on nexus phones. So in the end you can have sense for those who prefer, or you can have AOSP for those who prefer that. Non-HTC phones can almost never get a sense build to play with. Having the option is what makes htc phones ideal for me. Especially considering having that same option when it comes to samsung phones with touchwiz is not appealing to me at all. Basically a samsung phone with TW is junk until stable aosp arrives.
typical ATT/Apple nuthugging websites.
Sense intrusive? HA! They toned it down in my opinion. Got rid of the huge round dock, Background for the flipclock, and most of Sense 4.0 looks useful and intuitive.
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Yup they own iphones. They don't understand
There are two threads on this same review, they should probably be consolidated IMHO. We should probably have a one stop thread for all reviews.
That said I will never get people who complain about Sense and buy HTC phones. I have never owned a Samsung Android phone because I just quite frankly don't like the look of TW. So if I didn't like Sense I would never buy an HTC phone just to turn around and complain about it. Quite frankly with the exception of the Nexus line there isn't a single high end Android phone that doesn't use a skin of some sort. I get there is always the possibility of putting aosp on it but if you're going to spend your money on a device you should be buying it for what it offers and is capable of rather than what you could potentially remove and replace it with. I use aosp roms like cm and even miui once in a while cause they offer unique features but when it comes down to it when buying an HTC phone Sense offers the most complete experience especially since as history has proven aosp based roms always end up missing some of the features of the phone. Sure we may not use them all the time but it's nice to know sometimes if I run a Sense rom I could use all the functionality of my phone. I've been using Sense since it was called Manilla on WM devices. They've always kept a general design language in which I personally liked and Sense 4 is probably their biggest departure while still keeping some of that basic design intact. Trying both Sense 3.6 and 4.0 I can appreciate the subtle changes in 3.6 if you were running a Sense 3.0 or 3.5 rom blending both those version of Sense with ICS features. However there is just something subtle about the way Sense 4.0 looks and performs that going back just doesn't feel the same. Although I do think they should've kept quick settings in the notification dropdown, but thats just my opinion. Sorry for the rant.
I have two words for the complaint about battery life - JUICE DEFENDER.
Here's another review that I haven't seen posted on here yet (from PC World):
http://www.pcworld.com/article/255517/htc_evo_4g_lte_review_gorgeous_but_no_lte_for_now.html
Overall pretty positive review, although the lack of LTE is really killing the vibe on all of these reviews. Without that stumbling block, I think I'd be reading more "iPhone killer" and "best Android phone available" phrases scattered about. As it stands, they make the phone seem rather pedestrian instead of game-changing. To me, if the One X is a game-changer as many reviews claim it to be, this MUST be even more so.
Edit: Here's another review.
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-evo-4g-lte-review-20120511/
the engadget review to me praised it really good and even hte battery scored high was just they werent sure how it would be with LTE on
I wonder why HTC never changed the look of the battery is been the same since the evo 4G. Is not gonna change how goof the phone is but just wondering. Also I think the phone is a solid 8-9 only cause of sprints network is really bad in some cities for me is a hit or miss
these reviewers are IDIOTS
I love how they say the SENSE is too intrusive but then they all have said at some given time the love the WIDGETS CONTACT UI, DIALER, FRIENDSTREAM.. ETC.. You idiots thats SENSE..
And for "lack of better words.... It doesn't make any "SENSE" to say you love every little aspect of something and then say its a bad thing that the gave it to you. its like saying "thanks for buying me a car a house a boat" etc then turning around and saying "I hate you for buying me so much stuff" it makes no sense
it's really way too early to say the battery life is bad
the ATT version lasts 30 hours and has LTE forced on and a smaller battery
Probably a software/radio bug that will get patched soon just like the ATT version
The BEST mobile phone review site is Anandtech, no one else does things like actually MEASURE the brightness of a display
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5310/samsung-galaxy-nexus-ice-cream-sandwich-review/11
or MEASURE how loud a speaker phone is
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5310/samsung-galaxy-nexus-ice-cream-sandwich-review/13
stuff that actually matters not "sense is annoying"
Cordy said:
There are two threads on this same review, they should probably be consolidated IMHO. We should probably have a one stop thread for all reviews.
That said I will never get people who complain about Sense and buy HTC phones. I have never owned a Samsung Android phone because I just quite frankly don't like the look of TW. So if I didn't like Sense I would never buy an HTC phone just to turn around and complain about it. Quite frankly with the exception of the Nexus line there isn't a single high end Android phone that doesn't use a skin of some sort. I get there is always the possibility of putting aosp on it but if you're going to spend your money on a device you should be buying it for what it offers and is capable of rather than what you could potentially remove and replace it with. I use aosp roms like cm and even miui once in a while cause they offer unique features but when it comes down to it when buying an HTC phone Sense offers the most complete experience especially since as history has proven aosp based roms always end up missing some of the features of the phone. Sure we may not use them all the time but it's nice to know sometimes if I run a Sense rom I could use all the functionality of my phone. I've been using Sense since it was called Manilla on WM devices. They've always kept a general design language in which I personally liked and Sense 4 is probably their biggest departure while still keeping some of that basic design intact. Trying both Sense 3.6 and 4.0 I can appreciate the subtle changes in 3.6 if you were running a Sense 3.0 or 3.5 rom blending both those version of Sense with ICS features. However there is just something subtle about the way Sense 4.0 looks and performs that going back just doesn't feel the same. Although I do think they should've kept quick settings in the notification dropdown, but thats just my opinion. Sorry for the rant.
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So there are 2 "Verge Review" threads??....if so shoot me a pm with the link to the other one and I'll lock which ever one was created second...Thought I already locked/deleted the 2nd one on this topic though....
in the end if you guys ever want/feel anything should be consolidated or moved/locked there is this fancy feature here called the "Report Button" that works magic....it actually notifies us Mod's when you want something done...we dont have time to run through every thread reading every comment so use the feature...amazing stuff....
While I agree it would be nice to have a one stop shop review thread, there likely won't be one less someone is committed to starting one and keeping it updated over the course of time no matter what...regardless though, the multiple review threads will cease here shortly after the device is released and all anyway...
I know everybody wants to switch to a new phone, and one of the reasons is the newest htc camera is so much better than anything else...or is it? Maybe waiting one more generation is the way to go.....http://www.gsmarena.com/pureview_blind_test-review-773.php
This thread says otherwise
well of course it does, they all own the phone and they are coming from older phones. Fact is no one in the 1000 people sampled could pick out the htc photos. Well maybe thats a good thing?
There is alot more to a smartphone than its camera, the evo 3d is the exception because 3d is the headline feature.....point being HTC has designed a good phone (albeit with a few niggles for a selected bunch of models), The camera is the cherry on the cake, now people can decide if they want the whole experience i.e. the cake, or just the cherry i.e. the standout feature from the proverbial or literal sh**
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I know everybody wants to switch to a new phone, and one of the reasons is the newest htc camera is so much better than anything else...or is it? Maybe waiting one more generation is the way to go.....http://www.gsmarena.com/pureview_blind_test-review-773.php
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Is the camera better than my phone? By miles. Am I looking to get the LTE based on its camera? Not at all.
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There is alot more to a smartphone than its camera, the evo 3d is the exception because 3d is the headline feature.....point being HTC has designed a good phone (albeit with a few niggles for a selected bunch of models), The camera is the cherry on the cake, now people can decide if they want the whole experience i.e. the cake, or just the cherry i.e. the standout feature from the proverbial or literal sh**
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That might not be true, actually cell phones are so much alike that one phone having a much better camera than the others might turn out to be it's biggest feature. At any given moment there might be almost as many people taking pictures with a cell phone as there are making a call, heck a lot of people just text or use it for web surfing.
I think the real question here is, what camera would meet YOUR standards? There are a lot of people out there who say the camera is raising the bar, and obviously, you're a skeptic. Am I right?
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I think the real question here is, what camera would meet YOUR standards? There are a lot of people out there who say the camera is raising the bar, and obviously, you're a skeptic. Am I right?
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I would love to have the lte\one x camera on my evo3d, i'm not that great at taking pictures and would like to get better. I just like to read and found the camera comparison to be quite interesting. Maybe I should have said camera great but not the greatest? Let me add one thing, is there anyone who wouldn't want this camera on their next phone? And i mean camera only. That would be raising the bar by a huge amount.
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That might not be true, actually cell phones are so much alike that one phone having a much better camera than the others might turn out to be it's biggest feature. At any given moment there might be almost as many people taking pictures with a cell phone as there are making a call, heck a lot of people just text or use it for web surfing.
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Thats not exactly what I mean.... You don't buy the phone JUST based on the camera alone... Its the whole package.... The one x camera is great, but in these tests all the settings have to be equal and thats a user oriented thing as to how each individuals perception of a good quality image is, there are too many variables.
IMO HTCs camera settings have never been the best straight out the box... My desire hd had that issue and the same with the evo 3d, but then its to my taste and everyone's is different, unless the image is just **** lol
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S3 Cam > One X, LTEvo cam
Cry about it.
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S3 Cam > One X, LTEvo cam
Cry about it.
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Glad to see people comparing the One X/EVO 4G LTE with a phone that isn't even in their hand yet.
I'm okay with the camera being only slightly better than other phones, given the amazing speed at which it takes photos.
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Glad to see people comparing the One X/EVO 4G LTE with a phone that isn't even in their hand yet.
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I'm not purchasing either device,
But I've been lucky enough to play with them side by side already.
And I'm a huge HTC fan
It pains me to admit, HTC kinda lost there ass this time.
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The one x camera is what they said it would be. Awesome for a smartphone! Well atleast my evo lte cam is,which I'm pretty sure it's the same. Mind you I'm 26 year's old and have a busy nightlife,this camera captures it ALL!
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I'm not purchasing either device,
But I've been lucky enough to play with them side by side already.
And I'm a huge HTC fan
It pains me to admit, HTC kinda lost there ass this time.
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But, you do realize that the One Series and the EVO 4G LTE were both completed by design and announced before official rumors of the S3 was complete. So, of course Samsung would 1up the competition. It's just like if a new phone is announced later in the year, it's obviously gonna have better specs than one that was designed before.
And HTC definitely didn't lose their ass with this new phone (Especially the EVO 4G LTE). The One series is a step in the right direction for the company. No more quantity over quality. They're taking things down the right road this time.
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But, you do realize that the One Series and the EVO 4G LTE were both completed by design and announced before official rumors of the S3 was complete. So, of course Samsung would 1up the competition. It's just like if a new phone is announced later in the year, it's obviously gonna have better specs than one that was designed before.
And HTC definitely didn't lose their ass with this new phone (Especially the EVO 4G LTE). The One series is a step in the right direction for the company. No more quantity over quality. They're taking things down the right road this time.
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What I meant by lost their ass is by pitching a huge marketing campaign based on the power of their new cameras and than they get beat out.
I stumbled on this post searching for something. What a dumb post. Just delete his whole thread. I myself am.dumber for reading it. Camera quality is subjective when quality is this good. No one is using a phone to take aerial photos of property to show off. HTC has a hit. S3 is good but another same looking samsung phone. What innovation there. I am a big Samsung fan but S3 is a disappointment on looks and design for its exterior.
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I stumbled on this post searching for something. What a dumb post. Just delete his whole thread. I myself am.dumber for reading it. Camera quality is subjective when quality is this good. No one is using a phone to take aerial photos of property to show off. HTC has a hit. S3 is good but another same looking samsung phone. What innovation there. I am a big Samsung fan but S3 is a disappointment on looks and design for its exterior.
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Sorry you didn't like the article, i thought it was interesting to see a phone have a camera that good and somewhat surprised to see the htc phone rated that low. The phone was a hit at the last show because of the camera, they rated it a top 5 show item. I would think these people are more knowledgeable in the phone technology area, they certainly are smarter than mehttp://www.engadget.com/2012/06/18/nokia-808-pureview-united-states/ I did also see that engadget has their review up for the S3 and they say the S3 camera, except for a faster shutter, is not much better than the S2. They also say the camera is about the same as the htc camera. So while that makes the cameras both pretty good I guess they are not a huge leap forward.http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/20/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review-shootout-atandt-vs-sprint/
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What I meant by lost their ass is by pitching a huge marketing campaign based on the power of their new cameras and than they get beat out.
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Have a look at the quality in this picture I took, and explain how this can get beat out.
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Nice picture, no doubt, but if htc took the time to install a 3d camera on last years flagship phone, maybe a year from now they could install something similar to the nokia's camera and have something that is actually a "huge" improvement. We are now shown the technology is there and is being used and mass produced.
Greetings,
I know officially mhl is not supported on galaxy alpha
For curiosity's sake and confirmation - will someone please plug in an mhl cable and test if there's any hdmi video signal to the monitor?
Many thanks!
jazzaddict said:
Greetings,
I know officially mhl is not supported on galaxy alpha
For curiosity's sake and confirmation - will someone please plug in an mhl cable and test if there's any hdmi video signal to the monitor?
Many thanks!
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Nope, it won't work. I have one that I use for my Samsung Tab Pro 10,1, and it doesn't output anything on the Galaxy Alpha. I was actually amazed when it didn't mostly becuase Samsung seems to have cut corners everywhere on this device besides the chassis.
Thank you for testing that out..
I had been contemplating on galaxy alpha as it is on clearance... with the lack of community development for this device...I guess I'll give it a miss and see what does S6 have for offer
jazzaddict said:
Thank you for testing that out..
I had been contemplating on galaxy alpha as it is on clearance... with the lack of community development for this device...I guess I'll give it a miss and see what does S6 have for offer
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I shelled out for the Alpha, 0/10 wouldn't do again. Good choice on a flagship that will at least get support with time. This is horrendous. I really need to learn compiling roms. There's like NO development for this device. I should have learned by now not to buy niche products.
CuraeL said:
I shelled out for the Alpha, 0/10 wouldn't do again. Good choice on a flagship that will at least get support with time. This is horrendous. I really need to learn compiling roms. There's like NO development for this device. I should have learned by now not to buy niche products.
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What problems your alpha has? At least mine works like charm, no need for CM or any other custom rom... This is first Android for me that I haven't rooted. Usually people need an software update or custom ROM, when the device has something missing and/or something is not working properly.
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What problems your alpha has? At least mine works like charm, no need for CM or any other custom rom... This is first Android for me that I haven't rooted. Usually people need an software update or custom ROM, when the device has something missing and/or something is not working properly.
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Well for starters, when I listen to music from Google Play and the device goes into sleep in the pocket it starts lagging, lol. It only stops when it has fully switched onto the smaller processor, I guess? To me that's bad coding. TouchWiz is still clunky and too colorful for my liking, and the dark blue color is just not to my liking either. The screen is not THAT good either, I would have expected them to use a more expensive amoled on this one but hell, can't have it all, I can live with it.
I bought it for the looks and I hoped more people, devs and such, would be willing to buy it. Samsung makes decent products, their software is absolute bollocks if you ask me. Like I said, I took a chance and bought a device that at the time didn't have any development going for it, and to this day it still hasn't.
I am really happy that you enjoy your Sammy device, even if to me it sounds like you have a bloated up phone due to no root. But I guess there is something for everyone. How ever I must ask you to understand that I don't look for the same as you, apparently do, from the phone. I want stock vanilla or CM on my device because I find it more soothing. My Exynos tablet finally got it and I was hoping this phone would too.. So yes, I took two chances with Samsung now. The first one ended well but I feel like this one isn't going to work out quite as well. I say these things solely because I enjoy these things in a phone. We're simply different people and you do not need to understand me or see the display the way I do, for instance.
I do not intend to squash your enjoyment of your device at all. I am really happy that you enjoy your phone. How ever when I look at the display and the software, I find it lacking for the price, and I know that CM or vanilla would at least ease me off a bit.
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Well for starters, when I listen to music from Google Play and the device goes into sleep in the pocket it starts lagging, lol. It only stops when it has fully switched onto the smaller processor, I guess? To me that's bad coding. TouchWiz is still clunky and too colorful for my liking, and the dark blue color is just not to my liking either. The screen is not THAT good either, I would have expected them to use a more expensive amoled on this one but hell, can't have it all, I can live with it.
I bought it for the looks and I hoped more people, devs and such, would be willing to buy it. Samsung makes decent products, their software is absolute bollocks if you ask me. Like I said, I took a chance and bought a device that at the time didn't have any development going for it, and to this day it still hasn't.
I am really happy that you enjoy your Sammy device, even if to me it sounds like you have a bloated up phone due to no root. But I guess there is something for everyone. How ever I must ask you to understand that I don't look for the same as you, apparently do, from the phone. I want stock vanilla or CM on my device because I find it more soothing. My Exynos tablet finally got it and I was hoping this phone would too.. So yes, I took two chances with Samsung now. The first one ended well but I feel like this one isn't going to work out quite as well. I say these things solely because I enjoy these things in a phone. We're simply different people and you do not need to understand me or see the display the way I do, for instance.
I do not intend to squash your enjoyment of your device at all. I am really happy that you enjoy your phone. How ever when I look at the display and the software, I find it lacking for the price, and I know that CM or vanilla would at least ease me off a bit.
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It is just first time, that bloated samsung crapwized phone works like it should.... At least I use most of samsung stuff... for fun mostly... Of course I have disabled mymagazine and s-voice, because they were slowing things down, but on most part it works. And cm rom is on the way and it will be nice, light and smooth as all of them just wait and see. BTW even nexus 5 is slowed by battery-draining, sometimes laggy Google services. So I would agree that good cm port is better than any stock rom. Problem with our device is custom hardware. For instance wolfson sound processing hub, exynos octa 9 (or more) core processor with 4+4+1+.... cores for everything, custom camera sensor, heart rate monitor, independent intel modem.... and so on, makes it hard for developers to work, but is awesome when they take their time. You should hear what that wolfson chip is capable of when it is de-restricted and reprogrammed to use all functions it has.
All this makes me think that this phone has received much R&D money than half of devices they have released this year together.
P.S. To be honest I usually brake stuff, but i bought this, because it was small and light, had 1 year free screen insurance, wolfson sound, OLED screen (the newest gen ALMOLED tech with diamond matrix was a bonus), durability (small samsungs are strong and it has GG4 on the screen), camera (sensor and software) and power (THAT exynos).
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It is just first time, that bloated samsung crapwized phone works like it should.... At least I use most of samsung stuff... for fun mostly... Of course I have disabled mymagazine and s-voice, because they were slowing things down, but on most part it works. And cm rom is on the way and it will be nice, light and smooth as all of them just wait and see. BTW even nexus 5 is slowed by battery-draining, sometimes laggy Google services. So I would agree that good cm port is better than any stock rom. Problem with our device is custom hardware. For instance wolfson sound processing hub, exynos octa 9 (or more) core processor with 4+4+1+.... cores for everything, custom camera sensor, heart rate monitor, independent intel modem.... and so on, makes it hard for developers to work, but is awesome when they take their time. You should hear what that wolfson chip is capable of when it is de-restricted and reprogrammed to use all functions it has.
All this makes me think that this phone has received much R&D money than half of devices they have released this year together.
P.S. To be honest I usually brake stuff, but i bought this, because it was small and light, had 1 year free screen insurance, wolfson sound, OLED screen (the newest gen ALMOLED tech with diamond matrix was a bonus), durability (small samsungs are strong and it has GG4 on the screen), camera (sensor and software) and power (THAT exynos).
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I do know the processor in theory should be great. But because Samsung is not releasing anything useful we can't take advantage. And I'm sorry to say this but progress is stalling like a boss on the unofficial port of CM11, which if I might add is already an older edition of CM than what is currently being dev'd by the Cyanogen boys.. Not to mention by the time it's done it's going to be even older. I appreciate the effort but it's a very slow progress, it's not the devs fault, it's Samsung's fault.
By the way, once again, I'm glad you enjoy the heart rate thingy and such but I really don't need it. I just wanted the metal chassis and the perfect size factor of this device. A some what sturdy built Samsung for once. Not too plasticky. The thing you mention about "new display technology" I don' really follow. PenTile is so freaking weird when it comes to the green subpixels. I will still hold my ground on that I can see that fitfh less green in each subpixel. I've described this as "stitching" effect earlier. The way you can see on a solid icon for instance, that the red color is not "level" all the way down, it's more of a line of sown pixels. It can be seen on white text too, it's like the edges of the text blurs into a dark background. On such a small display I'm certain that 720p would look more clear in an LCD display with protoPenTile, RGBW or an IPS display. But I'm really nitpicking the display here and like I said, when I'm at a fair distance of the display I don't notice it and I can live with it. It's just my brain is annoying me with the fact that it's THERE, lol.
Don't brake your phone this time then, that's too expensive a phone for that.
ttyl
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Look at the white around the reds.. It's a weird effect that I can see even when I'm holding the phone down in normal position. Sorry I know it is a big picture.
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