There seems to be confusion about posting ROMs in General or Developers section. I just reported a post and fjasked that a "stock" ROM be moved from the Dev section to the General section because recently another Stock ROM was in fact moved with the reason that all stock ROMs belong in General. The response to my report was "this is a tough call I ll move it but it could stay in dev". So, that is a very non-committal answer from a mod. In addition, this post, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1184817, is an example of previous guidance on the subject. It clearly states that the Dev section is "only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY". I would agree with this guidance. Can we stop differentiating between stock and no-stock ROMs and place ALL ROMs in the Dev section, as stated in the above guidance? Thank you for you work and time. XDA is a great place. I am not whining or complaining. I am merely asking for clarification of this issue so we can move on.
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um, your "question" for clarification belongs in the Q section. Not General.
Also, reading the Dev section I think it is pretty clear that it is for rom development only.
Stock roms aren't development...in this case it's a link to a leaked rom. that's it...doesn't belong in development.
So, if the Mod moved it to General it was done correctly.
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um, your "question" for clarification belongs in the Q section. Not General.
Also, reading the Dev section I think it is pretty clear that it is for rom development only.
Stock roms aren't development...in this case it's a link to a leaked rom. that's it...doesn't belong in development.
So, if the Mod moved it to General it was done correctly.
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I been on here for some time across at least 6 phones, and I've never heard of such or seen this done.
It should be like how normal 90% of XDA works!
ROM/Kernels in Dev no matter if its stock or custom! That's it no argument! I had only three phone couple of tablets but whatever forum i went to. THis is the theory they followed! Very simple idk what's big deal about it! IDK why this ppl don't like that!
andrawer said:
um, your "question" for clarification belongs in the Q section. Not General.
Also, reading the Dev section I think it is pretty clear that it is for rom development only.
Stock roms aren't development...in this case it's a link to a leaked rom. that's it...doesn't belong in development.
So, if the Mod moved it to General it was done correctly.
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Your first sentence made me lol. You're right but I thought maybe since it was asking about the General then it could go in the General. Maybe it will be moved. Whatever.
Your second point is the crux of my question. If you read the guidance that I referenced it does not discriminate against stock ROMs. All ROMs are development, as are all kernels and other code. Code can be developed, whether it is stock code or other. Or at least that what I think.
I am anxious to see what the Moderators have to say. They have been very quiet on this issue.
esincho said:
I been on here for some time across at least 6 phones, and I've never heard of such or seen this done.
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I agree with you, I've been here a while , thru a span of of six devices forums myself also(htc excalibur-tmo dash/htc tilt-kaiser/htc fuze-raphael/the first android OG "htc dream-Tmobile G1"/htc leo/hd2) and now here and all roms have always been in the rom development section, even stock roms that serve as base for custom roms are part of development .
I have been frequenting this site since my PPC6600 and all ROMs official or otherwise have been in a development section of some type. That goes back 5 + years (a very long time in tech years)
I don't know if that means anything to anyone, but us old guys don't like change =P.
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Yes that's what i m saying! We get used to it! Plus its the only one place to look for stock or custom! no need to poop all over the place! Common sense!
21productionz said:
I have been frequenting this site since my PPC6600 and all ROMs official or otherwise have been in a development section of some type. That goes back 5 + years (a very long time in tech years)
I don't know if that means anything to anyone, but us old guys don't like change =P.
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well guess i'll add my 2 cents too
ive been on XDA since Celluar One....., and all roms of any sort have always been in the development section that ive seen...
From ***Development Only Here - All Others Will Be Locked/Deleted!*** stickied at the top of the Development forum.
This forum is for posting Development projects only - ROMs, Kernels, Mods (but not Themes, there's a separate forum for them), not stock ROMs (they belong in General). Anything else will be moved or locked. Do not ask questions here, do not post requests here, they belong in General.
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Stock ROMs belong in General according to the rules. Not sure if they are enforced or not though.
I dunno why they changed the rule. Is it specific for AT&T Galaxy Note or in general? Because at least Captivate/i9000/i9100 section have 'stock ROM list' sticky on development section.
MrJoran said:
From ***Development Only Here - All Others Will Be Locked/Deleted!*** stickied at the top of the Development forum.
Stock ROMs belong in General according to the rules. Not sure if they are enforced or not though.
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Madness.....
Even a mod agrees with us! We need to change this and put back all the stock stuff in dev section!
wardfan220 said:
Stock or not a rom is developed at some point, I've always kept them in the dev section If someone is looking for a stock rom to load, they're going to check the dev area first not general, imo. Not saying you're wrong, just my thought.
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Well according to those rules questions belong in general. Obviously it needs to be updated.
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MrJoran said:
From ***Development Only Here - All Others Will Be Locked/Deleted!*** stickied at the top of the Development forum.
Stock ROMs belong in General according to the rules. Not sure if they are enforced or not though.
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But is a "leaked" Rom to be considered stock? Phones don't ship with them....
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Leaked ROMs are still not something you made thus you aren't developing them, thus why would the go in development? I understand why people would want to put them there, but according to the rules, its not where they belong.
I really can't stand this! IF you really want to get this changed plz comment and let me know! Because i just don't like how this is going!
appdroid said:
I really can't stand this! IF you really want to get this changed plz comment and let me know! Because i just don't like how this is going!
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Lol, my vote would ba a mod (or eager poster) should compile one sticky of all stock and leaked roms into one sticky which can be posted at the top of the development section.
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ACTUALLY
ACTUALLY, this post doesn't belong in Q&A...
It belongs in the MAIN GENERAL section... I'm just saying...
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but yeah, the idea is stupid. they should change the rules...
Lol, who the hell cares? Just post it in one of the two and if a mod feels like moving it, let him. Personally I think any rom of any type should all go in one section so they're easy to find... but I'm not gonna cry about it if the mod wants it in general.
I have a t-mobile Note 2 and I was messing around with the *#197328649# menu and found these in UMTS, Version Information, secure boot status.
Secure VAL: 4369
SEC_BOOT:1
OEM_PK_HASH:1
SEC_HW_KEY:1
OEM_CONFIG:1
Like I said may or may not help but seeing secure boot made me think of you guys.
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Aye my apologies.....got distracted by my 2 year old and forgot what section I was in. My apologies.
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Am I missing something or is that a tmobile only menu?
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Am I missing something or is that a tmobile only menu?
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It is a menu in at least, international, Tmobile and ATT versions of the N2 and the JB version of the S3. Figured you guys may have it...if so it may be useful, if not then no big deal.
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I flashed my phone with Jelly beans rel 3 and S Voice is gone, anyone know how to get this back? I would post in dev but I can't until my post count is 10+ (maybe a verification system would work to counter this?)
SVoice is gone because it's really no good. Google Now is much better. But during installation I think there should have been a screen that asked if you wanted to keep it or not.
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True, Google Now is much better. I hope when you mean post in the dev section, you mean writing your question in that ROM's thread and not start a new topic in the dev section.
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True, Google Now is much better. I hope when you mean post in the dev section, you mean writing your question in that ROM's thread and not start a new topic in the dev section.
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But during installation I think there should have been a screen that asked if you wanted to keep it or not.
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^THIS.During the aroma install it asks which apps you want to keep. Just re flash and select it. When I went from build 3 to 4 I got it to try out. Google now is way faster to get to and get stuff done.
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What kernel are you running and what's your Setting?
I ran perseus, saber but ultimately came back to stock, a kernel isnt really needed unless youre running those useless benchmark apps
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littleguevara said:
I ran perseus, saber but ultimately came back to stock a kernel isnt really needed unless youre running those useless benchmark apps
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This!
I've been running Scotts DMC ROM for a while now. I see that there are some ROMs out that are based off DMF.
The little research I did said that this is a Portuguese ROM ( I guess).
Are there any known benefits/issues with the DMF base?
Thanks,
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Something I've found out about DMF2, and why im staying away from it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43037352&postcount=134
Does this affect custom roms built on dmf2? Dunno, but why risk it.
LiTDiE said:
Something I've found out about DMF2, and why im staying away from it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43037352&postcount=134
Does this affect custom roms built on dmf2? Dunno, but why risk it.
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I would bet good money that anything to do with modifying the EFS partition is ripped out of the ROMs for our phone, it wouldn't make sense to leave that in there.
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