[Q] Converting apps to system apps - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

There is this function in TB which moves the app to system partition.
If I'm using a script that moves apps to sd, it should make converted apps run faster.
The question is whether app converted in such way can still be updated automatically as usual?

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[Q] Manually moving system apps to SD?

I'm using FirstUA ROM (1.0) with the GO Launcher EX, since GO Launcher shuts down from time to time for some reason I wanted to "always keep alive" using Auto Memory Manager, but it isnt listed in the running processes-list, so I guess unless I move it as an external app it wont show.
I tried to rename the .apk(so it wouldnt be detected) and then reinstall it but i got an error message.
Thanks in advance!
TL;DR
How do I manually move a system app to SD?
You can convert system apps to user apps with Titanium Backup.
Simply longpress the app in the app list to see the option.
Hatshipuh said:
You can convert system apps to user apps with Titanium Backup.
Simply longpress the app in the app list to see the option.
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THANK you so much!

[Q] [Titanium BU] Am I using it correctly?

I purchased Titanium Pro. I know its an extremely efficient, powerful, and useful tool to have, especially for one that flashes often. But I am second guessing whether I am using it the right way. My current method seems a little bit tedious and inefficient.
Example, I do a full batch backup of my user apps & system data, easy enough. Then on a fresh ROM I would install TBU. But it doesn't seem I have a backup of my apps and data. I would then have to extract from nandroid backup. Then I would browse the created list and select the apps / data I want to restore. After restoration my user defined settings are gone, on default.
I have tried the complete batch backup. And via the same extract from nandroid backup, and rather than selecting each item, I just restored everything at once. Afterwards, I would experience strange things and a lot of FC. I suspected that may be because it was loading up apps/data that is not this newer ROM (ie apps that was baked in, ROM specific system apps), I don't know that this is the real reason because don't know enough to confirm it.
Am I using it correctly or is there a better way to it?
I use the free version, but I assume most things are the same. If you backed up all your apps and data, then I think maybe the memory storage was flipped around when you installed the new rom. Look in both your internal (emmc) and external sd cards for a folder called TitaniumBackup. This should hold all of your apk backups, along with the data associated with them. If you launch Titanium and nothing is found, then try copying that TitaniumBackup folder from the sd card it's currently located on over to the other sd card. All of your apps and data should then be found in the app under the Backup/Restore tab.
Edit: I assume you already know this but in the Backup/Restore tab, scroll down the list until you get to the crossed out apps. Those are the ones that you have backed up but not currently installed.
Make sure you save your backup to sdcard. And if you flash a new Rom. You don't normally want to restore system files.
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Sometimes even restoring apps + data can cause certain apps to FC or misbehave. But as they have said make sure your backups are in the SD card
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TB sucks! i recommend Ultimate Backup Pro. it's about 100 times better and easier to use. TB is overrated. while UBP is underrated ):

HOX to HOX+ Migration Question

Hi All,
Quick question - on my current HOX I've saved all my apps plus user settings. I copied the Titanium Backup folder contents to my PC. Can I simply copy from my PC to my new HOX+ and then run Titanium restore? I assume I can't copy over user system settings but would like to keep all my app settings.
One more question - do I need to run AT&T setup to enable my phone?
Thanks!
when i moved my TB from the one v to the X+ it worked fine
lokicat said:
Hi All,
Quick question - on my current HOX I've saved all my apps plus user settings. I copied the Titanium Backup folder contents to my PC. Can I simply copy from my PC to my new HOX+ and then run Titanium restore? I assume I can't copy over user system settings but would like to keep all my app settings.
One more question - do I need to run AT&T setup to enable my phone?
Thanks!
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That's exactly what I did (HOX->PC->HOX+ Titanium Restore). However, I didn't restore the data. The major item that has user data is email, and I've never found that restores properly. So I just re-synched everything. I guess if you have game saves, then just restore the games with user data. I would be careful with any system type apps, in restoring the data, since you are also over-writing or duplicating the system app itself.
Your phone should run fine without running the AT&T setup (what exactly is that anyway? I don't seem to remember having that pop up on my phone...). And yes, as others have said, you should be pretty safe restoring apps and data except for system apps. If you really want to, I suppose you can try restoring just the data for system apps, and if you start to have problems you can Clear Data for the problematic apps.

[Q] TiBu and system apps/data

Hello gang,
I'm new to the S4, I used to have and Incredible 2 and I have some questions about using TiBu to backup system apps and data. It seemed like on the S4 there are way more system apps and data than on the Inc 2. According to Tibu there are currently 287 entries (on my phone) that can be backed up by running Backup all system data. Some are apps like Gmail and Amazon and most are other Samsung/Android entries. So my question is, how do you handle backing up system data? Do you use labels, do you just back up everything, something else? Also, do the Redo backups for modified data and Redo backups for newer app versions apply to system apps and data too (I know this is strickly a TiBu question).
Thanks. :good:
Eric

[Q] Internal Storage and System apps

Every Android device come with pre-installed system apps such as Youtube, Email, etc. How these apps are updated? For the user installed apps, updating will simply replace the old version, but the system apps are in different story. Will there are two copies for the system apps? One for the old version and the other for the new version?
If I uninstall some of the system apps (in a rooted device with the help of some app) that I do not needed, will the space occupied by the system apps allocated back to me for personal use?
proza said:
Every Android device come with pre-installed system apps such as Youtube, Email, etc. How these apps are updated? For the user installed apps, updating will simply replace the old version, but the system apps are in different story. Will there are two copies for the system apps? One for the old version and the other for the new version?
If I uninstall some of the system apps (in a rooted device with the help of some app) that I do not needed, will the space occupied by the system apps allocated back to me for personal use?
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When you update a system app then update app stored in data partition. System app in factory version remain same in system partition.
If you uninstall system app then it will free up your system partition. But you can not use for store other data to system partition like internal storage.
You can convert user app to system app.
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When you update a system app then update app stored in data partition. System app in factory version remain same in system partition.
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This means that there are two copies of the apps, and I always launch the copy in the data partition?
proza said:
This means that there are two copies of the apps, and I always launch the copy in the data partition?
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Yes. There are two copies of app. One in system partition that stock version and another in data partition updated app.

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