So, the notification of the new update us in my Notification Bar, but I'm waiting for someone to push out a JB Sense rom. I'm wise enough to wait for it.
HOWEVER, although I know that this is a different device, but when I updated my Asus TF300 tablet, the entire bootloader changed, thereby restricting me to JB roms ALONE. Currently, I do not think that there is a way to return to ICS (not that I want to, and that's besides the point...).
I was simply wondering if that would happen for this device if I update to JB Sense...
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aarsyl said:
So, the notification of the new update us in my Notification Bar, but I'm waiting for someone to push out a JB Sense rom. I'm wise enough to wait for it.
HOWEVER, although I know that this is a different device, but when I updated my Asus TF300 tablet, the entire bootloader changed, thereby restricting me to JB roms ALONE. Currently, I do not think that there is a way to return to ICS (not that I want to, and that's besides the point...).
I was simply wondering if that would happen for this device if I update to JB Sense...
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That indeed is a good question. Are you S-off? I know that after going from the 1.15 to 1.19 bootloader, I was still able to run older versions of 4.0.4 and 4.0.3. However, JB is a major update so I would defer to someone with more knowledge.
If you wait and flash a rom from a dev your hboot will not change. You would only potentially have this issue if you took the official update.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKrJaB6OUvI&feature=youtube_gdata_player If anyone wants to see the update before us rooted people get it. Not my video just throwing that at there.
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That indeed is a good question. Are you S-off? I know that after going from the 1.15 to 1.19 bootloader, I was still able to run older versions of 4.0.4 and 4.0.3. However, JB is a major update so I would defer to someone with more knowledge.
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No, I am S-On, and I intend to stay that way for now. Yes, I know that the doors of opportunity are blasted wide open when I go S-off, but I rather not mess with the phone too much.
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ive got a feeling the 605.5 update was the update we were supposed to get, but maybe vzw decided on holding on to it till they can patch the current s-off exploit.
call me cynical but coming from a droid x and i remember these type of things happening before with moto and vzw...to the point where devs waited for a new update before revealing how to get root or run cm9 using the 2nd init...
perhaps we should have waited for ics to drop first before unveiling s-off...
It was gonna be launched on other phones regardless.
I highly doubt it..we are a minority to the rest of verizon rezound users...so i doubt they would postpone it....but i can be wrong with some of big reds past behaviors
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My worst fear about it is that it is worse than the newest (5/7) leak and has S-OFF patched with hboot 2.26 or something. So people on the official track are screwed.
Hopefully that doesn't happen though.
just saying vzw is not above going all out against the dev community...even the gnex updates are subject to verizons approval even though the carriers were supposed to be cut out of the loop...vzw does not like anything they dont get money from that they could be charging for...extra functionality w/ no money=evil bad murder kill to them
it's more likely that verizon postponed it for a business reason, like waiting for the inc 4g to drop. it's a flagship device and they're going to want it to be the first HTC with ICS.
exactly my point...technically the only thing holding us back is kernel source which wont come out till the official ics is released...lets say, if they did decide to patch s-off first and then release ics we would either have to stick to these leaks or upgrade to the official...upgrading to the official and presumably a new hboot which would then leave us at the mercy of verizon until devs can find another s-off exploit., if they can...i know there will always be workarounds and exploits to be had but dev unlock and s-off gave us the keys to the kingdom but what if vzw changes the locks completely
Even if the OTA patches the S Off exploit, then we just don't take the OTA, and wait for our devs to use the OTA as the base for their ROMs.....that's how we used to do things on the OG EVO. Once you're rooted, you never, ever, took an OTA. I don't even think they could turn the security flag back on with an OTA update if they wanted to, but I'm not sure. I'm sure there's someone far more knowledgeable who can confirm or deny the truth of that.
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exactly my point...technically the only thing holding us back is kernel source which wont come out till the official ics is released...lets say, if they did decide to patch s-off first and then release ics we would either have to stick to these leaks or upgrade to the official...upgrading to the official and presumably a new hboot which would then leave us at the mercy of verizon until devs can find another s-off exploit., if they can...i know there will always be workarounds and exploits to be had but dev unlock and s-off gave us the keys to the kingdom but what if vzw changes the locks completely
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What would that do for those who don't have s off?
I'm running stock gb, rooted, that's all. I was going to wait until the update then s off.
Are you saying I should s off now? While I have the chance? Im not skilled or comfortable enough with flashing yet, to flash everything seperate like you can with s off. The main reason I would want s off is so that I can go back to complete stock, and locked. Is that enough to do s off?
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What would that do for those who don't have s off?
I'm running stock gb, rooted, that's all. I was going to wait until the update then s off.
Are you saying I should s off now? While I have the chance? Im not skilled or comfortable enough with flashing yet, to flash everything seperate like you can with s off. The main reason I would want s off is so that I can go back to complete stock, and locked. Is that enough to do s off?
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Yes...absolutely! You don't need to flash separate radios and kernels if you don't want. You should do it now just in case...
if youre not comfortable with s-off then dont do it...as im sure htc will not revoke our ability to unlock the bootloader, and you dont need s-off to gain root...im just wondering for those of us that have s-off if we just made it harder for ourselves by unveiling the s-off method before we had the official ics and source... but as tspderek said, it may have just been a decision to sell a few more of the newer phones
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What would that do for those who don't have s off?
I'm running stock gb, rooted, that's all. I was going to wait until the update then s off.
Are you saying I should s off now? While I have the chance? Im not skilled or comfortable enough with flashing yet, to flash everything seperate like you can with s off. The main reason I would want s off is so that I can go back to complete stock, and locked. Is that enough to do s off?
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I would get it done now. There's a chance, albeit small, that HTC patches the new HBOOT to block the exploit. Considering the steps we take to get S OFF, I'd doubt it though.
I understand people wanting to wait todo SOFF or being a little scared of the risks but i don't think anyone should be waiting or worried at this.
The SOFF method has been out for a while now, and alot of successful runs, with alot of troubleshoot threads, solutions - why be scared and wait? Id say just do it. Its running great for everyone whos done it and it gives you way more options with your device if you need to switch between firmware at this time. Why restrict yourself ?
Definitely s-off.
no reason not to.
Especially if you are still on the stock GB OTA release. It took me all of 3 minutes... start to finish. I'll even mail you my wire-trick wire if you need it
no. you need a blank sd card, that's all. when i did s-off i popped in my sd card, started the process, got it on the first go, installed the juopunutbear hboot, flashed recovery, and booted right back into my rom.
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Doesn't S-OFF require you to unlock the bootloader, and by unlocking the bootloader format your phone?
I'm completely stock without root and having to re-setup my phone is one of the main reasons I have not done the S-OFF yet.
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yes, you must unlock your bootloader... and root your phone (via installing amonRA recovery is easiest)
then you are ready to s-off.
I was stock GB phone, I unlocked/rooted and s-off'd it didn't take long at all.
yes you'll have to re-set up some things on your phone, but that's ok, you'll be fresh! All my important stuff is sync'd with google so I'm pretty rapid at wiping and starting from scratch. The benefits after doing this will far outdo any inconvenience of setting your phone up again. You can run a nandroid backup after you flash amonRA before doing s-off as well if you want, but the unlock procedure does give you a wipe unfortunately :-\ use Titanium Backup for your apps if you want to keep specific data about them, otherwise just re-install after you get setup again.
s-offing with a stock GingerBread phone is easy and fast.
Isnt the S-OFF method more hardware related than software related. That's why they tested it on all the S3 phones? Plus, I dont see VZW worrying about the few hundred of us that actually did S-OFF. We're such a small portion of overall users. I would think they would hold it back over greed rather than hardware exploits. Such as Droid Inc 4G is about to drop with ICS and Sense 4. They'd rather people buy that than this phone.
It's both hardware and software dependent IIRC
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Isnt the S-OFF method more hardware related than software related. That's why they tested it on all the S3 phones? Plus, I dont see VZW worrying about the few hundred of us that actually did S-OFF. We're such a small portion of overall users. I would think they would hold it back over greed rather than hardware exploits. Such as Droid Inc 4G is about to drop with ICS and Sense 4. They'd rather people buy that than this phone.
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This. But I think the exploit is both hardware and software, so theoretically they could patch the software side, if they cared enough to.
For new users, just my advice, worrying about this is pointless, it's kinda like us making threads that say next summer gas will be $7 a gallon (or $6 liter) and you keep yourself awake at night worrying about the "what ifs".
So I have a 2-3 month old Rezound that is still stock-everything, not rooted, etc. etc. Honestly, I am really tired of these ICS rumors failing every two weeks, and I have finally lost my patience. My question is, if I use the unrooted method for getting the leaked ICS on my device, will I still get the OTA update when/if Verizon finally releases the official version?
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will I still get the OTA update when/if Verizon finally releases the official version?
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Can't really give you a definite yes or no to this as unsure of what the version revision numbers would end up being. Adopt s-off, and don't worry, from there you can flash ANYTHING your heart desires. But remember "with power comes great responsibility".
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Can't really give you a definite yes or no to this as unsure of what the version revision numbers would end up being. Adopt s-off, and don't worry, from there you can flash ANYTHING your heart desires. But remember "with power comes great responsibility".
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Thank you so much for the reply, I figured the old rumors were a bust, but the May 9th one seemed more legitimate to me for some reason. I should have rooted it the day I got the phone, it's just the [expletive] warranty; with my luck, the second I root it, is going to be the second it screws up royally. Oh well, guess I'll have to rely on the total incompetence of the people at the Verizon store. Thanks again!
If you do an unlock/root, it's practically unbrickable. S-off there is more chance. From what you gain with custom roms/leaks on this phone is astoundingly a night/day difference.
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Even if you unlock and flash Ineffabilis 1.4, that even helps and won't need to mess with any radios or hboots.
Hello, have you seen that actually HTC Incredible S is achieving 4.0.4 version of android, we get 4.0.3, do you think HTC will bring 4.0.4 for us in future or more probably is 4.1 Jelly Bean ??
The differences between 4.0.3. and 4.0.4. are minor. And since we don't even officially have ICS yet, I doubt we will get Jelly Bean any time soon.
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The differences between 4.0.3. and 4.0.4. are minor. And since we don't even officially have ICS yet, I doubt we will get Jelly Bean any time soon.
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I doubt it will happen at all. There's a good chance that HTC will turn their cheek to a JB update for the EVO 3D. I'm not even so sure I'll even get it on my EVO 4G LTE anytime soon...
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I doubt it will happen at all. There's a good chance that HTC will turn their cheek to a JB update for the EVO 3D. I'm not even so sure I'll even get it on my EVO 4G LTE anytime soon...
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I can almost gaurantee that the EVO 3D will not receive an official JB update. We will get (some time ;() the ICS with Sense 3.6, but that will be all. I believe Google asked or demands OEMs to maintain a device as far as software goes for like 18 months. I think JB will fall far out of that. At this rate, it doesn't seem they want to even give us ICS officially.
However, as far as I am concerned this is all moot. Devs will get any HTC JB drop running mostly complete soon after it drops, just like ICS and Sense 4.0. That's my two cents.
That's why you S-Off and Root!!!
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I can almost gaurantee that the EVO 3D will not receive an official JB update. We will get (some time ;() the ICS with Sense 3.6, but that will be all. I believe Google asked or demands OEMs to maintain a device as far as software goes for like 18 months. I think JB will fall far out of that. At this rate, it doesn't seem they want to even give us ICS officially.
However, as far as I am concerned this is all moot. Devs will get any HTC JB drop running mostly complete soon after it drops, just like ICS and Sense 4.0. That's my two cents.
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That's why you get an SIII instead
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I've heard this came out a couple months ago, but my phone as yet to update on its own. When I try and check for an update, it says there are no updates to be found. And when I check my phone, my current software is 3.14.605.12. Anybody know how I can upgrade to the latest? Ever since I upgraded to ICS, my phone has been nothing but trouble for me, and I'm hoping if I upgrade to the latest that some of these problems might go away. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!
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I've heard this came out a couple months ago, but my phone as yet to update on its own. When I try and check for an update, it says there are no updates to be found. And when I check my phone, my current software is 3.14.605.12. Anybody know how I can upgrade to the latest? Ever since I upgraded to ICS, my phone has been nothing but trouble for me, and I'm hoping if I upgrade to the latest that some of these problems might go away. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!
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Here is the link to the global update: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ull-ruu-build-4-03-605-2-for-the-htc-rezound/ Lucky for you, since you haven't unlocked you bootloader or done anything otherwise, you can flash this in your bootloader and get the update with no problem.
Two notes on flashing that...first it's unofficial, so flashing it might risk your ability to get OTA's in the future. Second, it will wipe your data, apps, and internal storage. However, with those two caveats, it will work just fine.
I appreciate the input guys. However, both of you state I need to "flash" to do this - which looks to me (as stated above) it's an unofficial method of getting this update. I'm curious, is there a way I can do this a legit way? How come my phone did not take the update, while others did? How can I force my phone to update? I'd like to keep my phone as stock as possible and not do any modding to it.
If I really have no other options, then I guess flashing is my best bet. And considering the last phone I had that I took any time to mod was the first-gen iPhone, I have no clue what any of this lingo means - but I guess that's what Google is for. However if any of you have a quick link in mind you could post that might help me or at least point me in the right direction, it'd be appreciated. I looked at the link posted above to the actual ROM file and it has some simple install instructions, however I'm not sure if that's all I need to do considering I'm still fully stock. Thanks again guys for all your help.
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I appreciate the input guys. However, both of you state I need to "flash" to do this - which looks to me (as stated above) it's an unofficial method of getting this update. I'm curious, is there a way I can do this a legit way? How come my phone did not take the update, while others did? How can I force my phone to update? I'd like to keep my phone as stock as possible and not do any modding to it.
If I really have no other options, then I guess flashing is my best bet. And considering the last phone I had that I took any time to mod was the first-gen iPhone, I have no clue what any of this lingo means - but I guess that's what Google is for. However if any of you have a quick link in mind you could post that might help me or at least point me in the right direction, it'd be appreciated. I looked at the link posted above to the actual ROM file and it has some simple install instructions, however I'm not sure if that's all I need to do considering I'm still fully stock. Thanks again guys for all your help.
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your phone is up to date! like they said above and the global is unofficial, therefore putting the global ruu on your phone would be the latest!
fcukthenet said:
I've heard this came out a couple months ago, but my phone as yet to update on its own. When I try and check for an update, it says there are no updates to be found. And when I check my phone, my current software is 3.14.605.12. Anybody know how I can upgrade to the latest? Ever since I upgraded to ICS, my phone has been nothing but trouble for me, and I'm hoping if I upgrade to the latest that some of these problems might go away. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!
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Run the 4.03.605.2 RUU. Let it boot 1 time, then wipe and install shrike's CounterShrike CM9 ROM. It's seriously a great ROM and super smooth in comparison to stock. Basically, what this phone should have been from day 1.
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your phone is up to date! like they said above and the global is unofficial, therefore putting the global ruu on your phone would be the latest!
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My apologies, but I don't quite understand. You're saying my phone is up to date with the 3.14.x.x software, and the 4.03.x.x that I'm looking for is actually some "custom" ROM and unofficial?
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My apologies, but I don't quite understand. My phone is up to date with the 3.14.x.x software, and the 4.03.x.x that I'm looking for is actually some "custom" ROM and unofficial?
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think of it like getting a Blu-Ray Movie Early. They say when the Blu-ray should be released but some guys who know people can get an Early Copy but modify it to make it Better than its original Release. And this is all totally legal.
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think of it like getting a Blu-Ray Movie Early. They say when the Blu-ray should be released but some guys who know people can get an Early Copy but modify it to make it Better than its original Release. And this is all totally legal.
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So this 4.03.x.x is just not out yet? I've been seeing news articles of them reporting on it as far back as August. Has it just not rolled out to every phone yet? If not, then I will continue to wait. I just thought my phone was messed up and wouldn't take the update.
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So this 4.03.x.x is just not out yet? I've been seeing news articles of them reporting on it as far back as August. Has it just not rolled out to every phone yet? If not, then I will continue to wait. I just thought my phone was messed up and wouldn't take the update.
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But waiting on Verizon to Roll out the Update will take a loooonng time. but Sites have the Latest (Unofficial)Build. Unofficial is kind of like Alpha, and Beta. Unofficial is inbetween Alpha n Beta.
It basically gives u global function so if your not going to other countries don't even worry about it. I promise if u take the time to figure everything out and flash it you won't be able to tell a difference. Just skip it
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fcukthenet said:
So this 4.03.x.x is just not out yet? I've been seeing news articles of them reporting on it as far back as August. Has it just not rolled out to every phone yet? If not, then I will continue to wait. I just thought my phone was messed up and wouldn't take the update.
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A few people got 4.03.605.1 a week or two after the 3.14.605.12 OTA, but they never mass rolled it out. I know of one person on XDA who got it as an OTA. 4.03.605.2 surfaced a few days later on Android Police, but I haven't heard of anyone getting it as an OTA, and there hasn't been a peep out of Verizon on it.
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A few people got 4.03.605.1 a week or two after the 3.14.605.12 OTA, but they never mass rolled it out. I know of one person on XDA who got it as an OTA. 4.03.605.2 surfaced a few days later on Android Police, but I haven't heard of anyone getting it as an OTA, and there hasn't been a peep out of Verizon on it.
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Awesome, just what I needed to know. I will just be patient then. Thanks!
Yep, basically the only reason why the global update ever made it to light is because the manufacturers like HTC like to "splash test" on a few customers, let them report back bugs and what not, at this point if there aren't any bugs or the bugs that are present are workable, they will release the update in mass to the rest of the public.
Basically, a splash tester knew what they were doing, whipped together that nice little "flashable" ruu package and released it for the rest of us to hack up for our own uses. Usually, we look forward to these little splash test releases because they do contain newer bug fixes, but they also contain new kernels, libs and other useful things we need to continue making roms like aosp or sense 4 work better
I'd say if you want it, go ahead and flash it. Its just not official as they say because it did not arrive onto your phone via ota update directly from htc and verizon. Although it is an official build built by htc.
Is it only the international One that's getting the 5.5 update right now?
Or is the AT&T variant included in the current rollouts? Cause I haven't received it yet.
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joho5 said:
Is it only the international One that's getting the 5.5 update right now?
Or is the AT&T variant included in the current rollouts? Cause I haven't received it yet.
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The current rollout is only for the INTL version. I wouldn't be surprised if ATT doesn't give you Sense 5.5, since they just updated to 4.3 with Sense 5 not terribly long ago. I'd guess IF they update to Sense 5.5, it won't be until after the MAX has been out for a little while. They have to have some incentive to get people to buy it...
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The current rollout is only for the INTL version. I wouldn't be surprised if ATT doesn't give you Sense 5.5, since they just updated to 4.3 with Sense 5 not terribly long ago. I'd guess IF they update to Sense 5.5, it won't be until after the MAX has been out for a little while. They have to have some incentive to get people to buy it...
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gotcha...I had an htc one a while back and got rid of it, and I regretted it...so I have another now and have just been running it stock and its been doing everything I need it to.
I guess I will just have to root and run a sense rom and gain the 5.5 benefits.
thanks
joho5 said:
gotcha...I had an htc one a while back and got rid of it, and I regretted it...so I have another now and have just been running it stock and its been doing everything I need it to.
I guess I will just have to root and run a sense rom and gain the 5.5 benefits.
thanks
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I wouldn't root just for 5.5 unless there's something really specific you're wanting. BUT, I say root that sucker since you've had one before and you're used to it. It will open up a whole new world of One possibilities. And while s off is available I would definitely take advantage of it if you ever think you might want to root or tinker with roms and kernels.
I realize rooting and unlocking/s-off isn't for everyone, but if you're inclined to open up the doors to custom software, the development on this phone is UNBELIEVABLE, if you're watching the dev forums in this section I know it's not a lot of activity, but that's because once unlocked all the development in the regular HTC One section can be used.
As a sidenote: My phone and ATT network like the new firmware that was rolled out to the international version. I'm getting service inside the building where it was a dead zone before, although it's not a very strong signal, and my LTE speeds went up a lot, both upload and download. Just in case you do root it and you're wondering about that.
joho5 said:
gotcha...I had an htc one a while back and got rid of it, and I regretted it...so I have another now and have just been running it stock and its been doing everything I need it to.
I guess I will just have to root and run a sense rom and gain the 5.5 benefits.
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Yes my other one was rooted, soff, Ll that. I know the procedure.
What rom or ruu did you flash to get the new radio and firmware.
Also I have hboot 1.55....is it s-off able?
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I thought the same about rooting but since I've always rooted my past android devices, I did. I have such a better experience rooted (using TB, Greenify + framework modules).
What makes me think to update sense 5 to 5.5, is if I have to delete everything like last time (RUU method) I might skip sense update.
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I wouldn't root just for 5.5 unless there's something really specific you're wanting. BUT, I say root that sucker since you've had one before and you're used to it. It will open up a whole new world of One possibilities. And while s off is available I would definitely take advantage of it if you ever think you might want to root or tinker with roms and kernels.
I realize rooting and unlocking/s-off isn't for everyone, but if you're inclined to open up the doors to custom software, the development on this phone is UNBELIEVABLE, if you're watching the dev forums in this section I know it's not a lot of activity, but that's because once unlocked all the development in the regular HTC One section can be used.
As a sidenote: My phone and ATT network like the new firmware that was rolled out to the international version. I'm getting service inside the building where it was a dead zone before, although it's not a very strong signal, and my LTE speeds went up a lot, both upload and download. Just in case you do root it and you're wondering about that.
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I've been thinking about Rooting myself, but haven't done it because I've been pretty much pleased with everything so far....... but I think that I may just go ahead to root it.
What International ROM/Radio are you using?
Thanks,