NT newbie here. I have previously rooted my T-Mobile G2 and installed custom ROMs on it.
I am looking to root a brand new NT 16GB, install the Play Store, Amazon Appstore.... and am looking for the best way to do it without voiding the warranty. I have been reading through the forums and am confused about which one to use.
Any pros/cons to installing a custom ROM?
All responses are greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
FullScreen57 said:
NT newbie here. I have previously rooted my T-Mobile G2 and installed custom ROMs on it.
I am looking to root a brand new NT 16GB, install the Play Store, Amazon Appstore.... and am looking for the best way to do it without voiding the warranty. I have been reading through the forums and am confused about which one to use.
Any pros/cons to installing a custom ROM?
All responses are greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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You cannot root without voiding the warranty, that's one of the risks you take. It's the same with (almost) every device. I think the Nexus line may be the exception to that, but I'm not certain.
That said, the link in my sig works for me and many others.
If you've read around here you should be aware that unless you mess up REALLY bad there's always a way back to stock. And a n easy one at that in most cases!
You don't need to install new ROM to get access to Play and Amazon. Just a simple root will do if that's all you're after. I've only usde Albert Wertz's sd-card root so I have no opinion on "best", and I do think it's kind of frowned upon here to vent opinions of one developer's work against another. I'm pretty sure they are all VERY good!
There is also the alternative of running CM10 from sd card. I do that at the moment and I'm thoroughly impressed how smooth it is ad how well it works! And I can easily run stocj when I want to (I do like the stock reader and I prefer it to the BN app, but that's just my opinion!)
asawi said:
If you've read around here you should be aware that unless you mess up REALLY bad there's always a way back to stock. And a n easy one at that in most cases!
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I found that the easiest way to recover to stock is to backup your own stock config to an external SDcard using the "backup and restore" option of the same Recovery (e.g., CWM) that you uses to flash ROM/gapps/Rooting zip file onto the tablet, and keep a copy of the backup folder as well as the particular version Recovery on your PC and archived CD/DVD etc. (or simply just save that SDcard aside) for the rainy days which are bound to happen by virtue of Murphy's Laws (I know this as it happened to me many times, completely accidentally when I wasn't even trying to root or flash a ROM onto my NT ...).
The backup copy can be used to restore to your stock config as long as none of the tablet's pertinent partitions is missing or inaccessible (e.g., due to some botched attempts to reformat/repartition/resize the tablet's emmc).
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liquidzoo said:
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That said, the link in my sig works for me and many others.
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I rooted my NT using the update.zip you recommended, the Google voice search does not work: whenever I try to use it I get the error message: "no resul found for pname:com.google.android.voicesearch". Any suggestion on a fix for it?
I'm not sure what the files are in my zip, honestly. The zip came originally from Indirect. I just reposted it because too many people couldn't find it (the original link had expired).
As far as voice search, have you tried updating Google search in the Play Store? That might help.
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liquidzoo said:
I'm not sure what the files are in my zip, honestly. The zip came originally from Indirect. I just reposted it because too many people couldn't find it (the original link had expired).
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My presumption was mistaken, that app (TestCenterService) is not in the update.zip. I am guessing it's a system app and part of the original stock ROM but simply hidden from users in the NT's un-rooted state (hence I never saw it before).
As far as voice search, have you tried updating Google search in the Play Store? That might help.
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Yes, I did the update but it hasn't helped. Does "voice search" (from the Google search box widget on the homescreen) work on your NT?
digixmax said:
Yes, I did the update but it hasn't helped. Does "voice search" (from the Google search box widget on the homescreen) work on your NT?
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I haven't tried it honestly. I know that the mic has issues on some/most JB ROMs. Mostly my NT is used so my kids can play with it.
Voice search works beautifully on my NT running CM10 from sd. I run Succulents (?) 1208.
asawi said:
Voice search works beautifully on my NT running CM10 from sd. I run Succulents (?) 1208.
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I know it does, as I too am running CM10 off an SDcard.
Related
Dont know if any one else has tried it but the new NetFlix app seems to work with out using the netflix fixer app here is here the link from androidpolice site if anyone else wants to give it a try.
http://www.multiupload.com/3A8C4GWL8R
Working for me! Thanks for the link.
Works great! No need for build.prop edits or any special apps.
No chipmunks, just smooth playback.
Did you have to root in order to use Netflix? Sorry if it sounds dumb but I'm thinking of buying one.
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matr1x_ said:
Did you have to root in order to use Netflix? Sorry if it sounds dumb but I'm thinking of buying one.
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Yes you do.
Divine_Madcat said:
Yes you do.
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Not any more. I set my friend up with a SD bootable cm7 latest nightly and with the updated app it worked. No fast foreword audio or video, just pure goodness. His nook is a non rooted blue dot nook.
CM7 is rooted
steelerfan75 said:
CM7 is rooted
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Yes sorry it is a rooted rom, what I meant to say is that you do not have to root the stock nook itself if you run an SD bootable version. Unless the sd bootable roots the device in the process? I myself run off rooted emmc so SD bootables are a little foreign to me.
Thanks for the link.
Latest nightly C7 and it works well without the build mod.
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Works for me
This worked well for me--Thanks! No fiddling with any other files, just signed into Netflix account and it worked.
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CM7 is rooted
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Actually, it is not. Rooted means you have kept the stock ROM and simply opened it up so you can install the market and other apps not in the Nook app store. CM7 is a custom ROM that replaces the stock ROM. While the distinction may not sound important, it is if someone follows the wrong instructions when trying to return a Nook Color to stock form such as if they have a warranty issue.
Rooted means that you have root access to the OS.
"root is the conventional name of the user who has all rights or permissions."
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superuser
I just installed CM7 to SD card, and then download the netflix app from here.
Works great!
I wonder why Netflix no longer shows up in the Market?
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Actually, it is not. Rooted means you have kept the stock ROM and simply opened it up so you can install the market and other apps not in the Nook app store. CM7 is a custom ROM that replaces the stock ROM. While the distinction may not sound important, it is if someone follows the wrong instructions when trying to return a Nook Color to stock form such as if they have a warranty issue.
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Really? CM7 isn't rooted? Wow. You're probably are one of the people who "bricked" a NC as well, eh?
Rooted (as joenathane says) means you can do w/e the hell you want to the OS (super-user/administrator rights). CM7 (and nearly all after markets roms) are rooted.
Thanks for the link. Working great on Phiremod MIUI.
ace7196 said:
Really? CM7 isn't rooted? Wow. You're probably are one of the people who "bricked" a NC as well, eh?
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No need for sarcasm. What I meant was when you follow the instructions for rooting your Nook Color you are really keeping the stock ROM and opening it up. When you install CM7 you are replacing the stock ROM with a custom ROM. Yes, it is still rooted but it is not the stock ROM. The instructions for doing and undoing this are different depending on which way you go and I did not want people to be confused if they try to undo what they previously did.
And no, I have note bricked mine. You can't brick a NC since you can always boot from a SD card. You can get it to the point where many would give up, but you cannot brick it.
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No need for sarcasm. What I meant was when you follow the instructions for rooting your Nook Color you are really keeping the stock ROM and opening it up. When you install CM7 you are replacing the stock ROM with a custom ROM. Yes, it is still rooted but it is not the stock ROM. The instructions for doing and undoing this are different depending on which way you go and I did not want people to be confused if they try to undo what they previously did.
And no, I have note bricked mine. You can't brick a NC since you can always boot from a SD card. You can get it to the point where many would give up, but you cannot brick it.
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Hehe...just making sure you know what's up
This is a noob question. I probably should know the answer, but I don't.
I downloaded the apk file. Where on the SD card do I put it to get it to run?
I know how to get to the root menu and/or to connect the Nook via USB. I have heard about "pushing" an app to the device, but I don't know how to do it.
Thanks.
PS. I also bought a copy of Root Explorer.
I simply downloaded the file using the nook browser, then tapped on the download to install it (the notification window at the bottom).
Hey guys I'm pretty new here and i wanted to get some feedback, did not find any similar topics around.
I want to root my NT 16gb but i see a lot of different methods and ways to perform it, whats the best way of going?
CM9 or CM7?
Easiest method to do it?
i got a 16gb microSD also!
Any opinions?
THANK YOU!
Rooting and applying a custom rom like cm7 or cm9 do not necessarily go together, an unfortunate assumption many new android users make. The former allows you root access and thus you can do things with the device you otherwise would not have been able to do. Flashing a custom rom will literally change the operating system entirely. Both are also completely reversible. So the question is, what do you want? Root access or a new OS entirely (note that custom roms almost always have root access).
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ooojnrooo said:
Hey guys I'm pretty new here and i wanted to get some feedback, did not find any similar topics around.
I want to root my NT 16gb but i see a lot of different methods and ways to perform it, whats the best way of going?
CM9 or CM7?
Easiest method to do it?
i got a 16gb microSD also!
Any opinions?
THANK YOU!
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I'm fairly new at this also, got my 16G NT (1.4.1) a couple days ago, and I'll tell you what I did. At first, I rooted it because I wanted (at least) access to the Kindle reader, but the google market/play is not available so B&N could control it. Rooting AND installing google apps (aka gapps) give you the market and more. From there you can install the go launcher and have a pretty nice overlay that looks ICS-like. Here's what I used and it seemed to go pretty smooth:
Part 1:
This thread by the developer Indirect shows how to do the root along with gaaps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466583
And here is an invaluable video from albertwertz that goes along with it. This helped me get the confidence to do it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I403bagL9rw
He has an update to this show at the beginning of the video, but I did not use that.
The secret sauce is in making a bootable SD card with both the image that gives you CWM (clockworks mod), which is basically a loader that allow you to then load the .zip file which contains the root and gapps files.
After I went through the process, nothing seemed to have changed at all on the NT, but after some head scratching I realized that gapps is the key and it had in fact been loaded. So hit the home button and then search and type in market. Voila, the google market is now there and you can download anything that is compatible with the NT (like kindle and the go launcher).
Part 2.
The go launcher is great, but everytime I hit home, I had to navigate to the go launcher and launch the nicer ics-like skin, so I decided to go for CM9. I'm not at all disappointed that I did. Netflix does not work, but seemingly everything else does and does nicely. Here's how:
Basically, you just need to get the CM9.003 file, and "flash" that just as you flashed the root and google apps zip. I'm sure you have figured out by now that flashing just means loading the new program into "flash" memory, which is just a read/write memory that is non-volatile. (does not erase at power down).
What I wound up up doing is placing the CM9 zip file on a separate SD card, then used the one I originally used for rooting to get into the CWM recovery program. Once there, pop it out and insert the CM9 zip and run that one from CWM. Reboot and you're running Android 4.0.4.
Here's the link for the CM9 install, courtesy of developer chrmhoffmann:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1534192
Here's a link to the CM9 zip:
http://goo.im/devs/chrmhoffmann/cm9/update-cm9-acclaim-alpha0.03-fullofbugs.zip
One more thing: You actually should put two zips on that 2nd SD, the 2nd one being google apps (aka gapps), as for some reason it is not included in the CM9 zip as it was in step 1. Here's the link to that file:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Latest_Version/Google_Apps
It's the app for CM9, and just in case, here's the download link:
http://cmw.22aaf3.com/gapps/gapps-ics-20120317-signed.zip
So now you have 2 zips on the 2nd SD card. Run them both, first the CM9 zip and then the gapps zip, reboot.
Sorry that's so long, but that's what I did and it worked out well for me once I figured it out...
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One more thing. When you get into the CWM recovery program (the one you'll see when you boot from the 1st SD card, don't forget to run a backup of the original ROM, IE the factory version in case you want to go back.
I'm not an expert on the backup and recover process, and there apparently other ways to restore to the original NT 1.4.0 or 1.4.1, but I would do that anyway...
I wanted to say "very good" ! . and a note that i think should be added... is the importance of wiping the dalvik and the data cache within the flash process. . lots of people get clobbered by this ommission.
georgia boy said:
One more thing: You actually should put two zips on that 2nd SD, the 2nd one being google apps (aka gapps), as for some reason it is not included in the CM9 zip as it was in step 1.
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Allow me to explain. Gapps, or google apps are a seperate package of apps created by google. They are not apps that are included with "pure" Android and thus Google does not want them included with roms for whatever legal reasons. They were included in the step 1 you gave because that is simply rooting. Rooting and throwing apps onto a rom like the stock version is not flashing a custom ROM. In fact its no different than if a developer were to release a custom rom that didnt have root access, but someone wrote a script that gave you root access and installed those google apps.
tl;dr gapps are legally required to be a separate package from custom roms.
For starters. I am a Nook noob and I am not affraid to admit it.
I have read, read, read, and then read some more about rooting, roms, CWM, CM, and so on and I did puzzle most of the pieces together, but not all.
If I got it right there basically are 3 different roms one can choose for the NT:
Stock rom (the original state)
Stock rom Rooted
Alternate roms: CM (7,8,9), MIUI or any other variation of Android firmware distribution
The usage distribution of the roms can be found in a poll here.
Stock (original) limits you in using full potential of the NT, which typically means that you can not use Google Drive, install/use any apps other then the ones Nook market provides. You can not put apps on the home screen, use any widgets and you are very limited in what you can alterate on the system.
Stock Rooted is the state in which that you are still using the original firmware, however you now have root acces. This means that you have acces to Google Drive and are able to install/use most of the apps on Google Drive on your NT. You can use various launchers to access these apps and can set a launcher as default instead of the original launcher.
The easiest way to get here is by rooting your NT through an SD card. You only need the SD card for the rooting process. The (rooted) firmware remains on the internal memory of the NT.
In this, you:
Still have acces to all the original Nook apps and features (you are still using the original Nook system)
You have the possibility to UNroot the device and turn it fully back to it's original state
What I am not sure about is:
Can you use / place apps on the home screen?
Can you use / place widgets on the home screen?
Are there any other important differences between Stock (original) and Stock Rooted?
When going for an alternate rom, you have a diversity of choices, but all are fully seperate roms, that either replaces the original firmware or complements it (dual boot). What you get in return is a fully functional, tweakable Android system, on which the version depends on the rom that you choose. You can access Google Drive, install/use most apps, place widgets, use different launchers, etc.
The easiest way to get here is by using a SD card. I can not find the specific topic that explains the procedure though. It seems that you can choose to maintain the original firmware and place the rom on the (external) SD, which leaves you with a dual boot system, or you can replace the stock rom with the custom rom.
In this, you:
Loose usage of all of the NT's orininal apps and features (when using the custom rom)
What I am not sure about is:
Where in the process you can choose to either place the custom rom on the (external) SD or install in the internal memory.
Are there any other important differences between Stock Rooted and custom rom?
My main question is: Can you confirm my findings and help me answer the questions/uncertainties?
I can imagine this thread would be of help to others who spent a lot of time reading, but are left with some basic questions. That is why I took my time writing it.
When you use the sd card method, I use a cm7 card when I boot the tablet with the card it boots up as a regular android tablet. It's does not install anything permanently to the tablet. I get full google play. Like I said no nook software at all just android tablet. I use the nook app if I want to read. It has the cool page turn animation the nook software does not go figure. Take out root sd card turn off and turn it back on with no sd card or an unpacked sd card, it boots up just like it came out of the box. All app installs music anything put on the nook with the hacked card in it goes on the card. You have no access to the nooks memory except ram which gets cleared as soon as u restart it. As long as the hacked sd card is not in it there's no way for anyone to tell you've done anything to it, cuz u haven't it all stays on the sd card. Performance is great I play 3D games like mad trigger with no lag, it's the best of both worlds & only way to go if u ask me. I don't know why anyone would do anything els. It's just to easy. Hope that helped.
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Thread moved. While I appreciate the effort you've put into this post by reading up and finding out about all the different ROM's, you need to also look to make sure you post in the correct sections of the forum and this is also stated in the sticky in the General section, not to post questions in General. If your thread is a question/multiple questions and you even tick the "Is this a question box" when creating the thread then you must post it in the relevant Q&A section.
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AvRS
hd2joel said:
When you use the sd card method, I use a cm7 card when I boot the tablet with the card it boots up as a regular android tablet. It's does not install anything permanently to the tablet. I get full google play. Like I said no nook software at all just android tablet. I use the nook app if I want to read. It has the cool page turn animation the nook software does not go figure. Take out root sd card turn off and turn it back on with no sd card or an unpacked sd card, it boots up just like it came out of the box. All app installs music anything put on the nook with the hacked card in it goes on the card. You have no access to the nooks memory except ram which gets cleared as soon as u restart it. As long as the hacked sd card is not in it there's no way for anyone to tell you've done anything to it, cuz u haven't it all stays on the sd card. Performance is great I play 3D games like mad trigger with no lag, it's the best of both worlds & only way to go if u ask me. I don't know why anyone would do anything els. It's just to easy. Hope that helped.
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Thanks, that helps indeed. So basically you only use the CM7 rom, and neglect the stocked software. Sounds like an attractive approach. Thouh it is a bit of a shame that the 8 or 16 GB of internal storage are not usable then.
@AvRS: I did read the section about no questions in the General Forum's policy. I actually thought I posted in the Q&A but appearantly I didn't. I probably started the thread just before I read that part. Thanks for moving it to the proper section.
chris996 said:
What I am not sure about is:
Can you use / place apps on the home screen?
Can you use / place widgets on the home screen?
Are there any other important differences between Stock (original) and Stock Rooted?
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For the first point: Not on firmware 1.4.3, but on lower firmwares you can download an app called Nook Color App Manager (you have to side-load it as it is not in the Play store) that will allow you to do just that.
For the second point: You cannot place widgets on the Stock launcher. You have to install an alternate launcher for widgets.
Also, I think you mean Google Play, not Google Drive.
chris996 said:
Thanks, that helps indeed. So basically you only use the CM7 rom, and neglect the stocked software. Sounds like an attractive approach. Thouh it is a bit of a shame that the 8 or 16 GB of internal storage are not usable then.
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Unless you re-partition your Nook, you never have access to the full 8/16GB. You only have access to the 1GB MyNook partition. You have to re-partition (or have a B&N store do it for you) to get more space for user apps.
Ok guys, thanks for all the answers. A lot more is clear now, but definately not all. Also, yes I mean Google Play / Not Drive (doh, my bad)
As I read more and more, it becomes clear to me that all the information about rooting the Nook is soooooo spread and unorganised. It is nearly impossible to make an informed choice without having to spent hours and hours of reading the forums.
Just now for example, after a total of 2-3 hours reading the forums, it came to my attention that there is a big difference between the 8GB and 16 GB NT and that some rooting procedures can brick the NT8.
Anyway, on with the questions:
It seems that the latest version CM10, is the one that currently has most of the attention and most of the development resources go to this. Is this version now steady? Also for N8GB? Are there still big issues, like: no microphone working, sudded reboots, crashes, etc?
I read that CM9 is no longer being develloped. Is this version steady now? Also for NT 8GB? With a working microphone, no sudden crashes, reboots, etc.? Or was it abandoned while unfinished?
How about CM7? Same questions as the above.
So basically, even afters hours of reading, I still have not figured out which version would be best to use for my 8GB NT, if I want full Android functionality, but with everything working steady (also microphone) and avoid any big issues.
Hope you guys can shine some (more) light on this.
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Ok guys, thanks for all the answers. A lot more is clear now, but definately not all. Also, yes I mean Google Play / Not Drive (doh, my bad)
As I read more and more, it becomes clear to me that all the information about rooting the Nook is soooooo spread and unorganised. It is nearly impossible to make an informed choice without having to spent hours and hours of reading the forums.
Just now for example, after a total of 2-3 hours reading the forums, it came to my attention that there is a big difference between the 8GB and 16 GB NT and that some rooting procedures can brick the NT8.
Anyway, on with the questions:
It seems that the latest version CM10, is the one that currently has most of the attention and most of the development resources go to this. Is this version now steady? Also for N8GB? Are there still big issues, like: no microphone working, sudded reboots, crashes, etc?
I read that CM9 is no longer being develloped. Is this version steady now? Also for NT 8GB? With a working microphone, no sudden crashes, reboots, etc.? Or was it abandoned while unfinished?
How about CM7? Same questions as the above.
So basically, even afters hours of reading, I still have not figured out which version would be best to use for my 8GB NT, if I want full Android functionality, but with everything working steady (also microphone) and avoid any big issues.
Hope you guys can shine some (more) light on this.
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1) Most of the dev's I believe use NT 16 GB so NT 8GB is a bit of a risk.
2) True, CM9 is no longer being focused on, Jellybean is the center of attention. No it is not considered steady/daily driver material. You might as well flash a jelly bean rom if you are going to flash a newer rom on ur NT.
3) If you want a guarantee that a ROM will run on the NT 8GB, the CM7 ROM by celticwebsolutions internal version is your best bet. It should be guaranteed to work. All those features you mentioned should be working. VOIP does not work on any of the ROM's currently
Number 3 update
Just one update on part of the question, answer to 3); Magicjack app works on it.
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Answers:
1) Most of the dev's I believe use NT 16 GB so NT 8GB is a bit of a risk.
2) True, CM9 is no longer being focused on, Jellybean is the center of attention. No it is not considered steady/daily driver material. You might as well flash a jelly bean rom if you are going to flash a newer rom on ur NT.
3) If you want a guarantee that a ROM will run on the NT 8GB, the CM7 ROM by celticwebsolutions internal version is your best bet. It should be guaranteed to work. All those features you mentioned should be working. VOIP does not work on any of the ROM's currently
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ShinnAsuka said:
Answers:
1) Most of the dev's I believe use NT 16 GB so NT 8GB is a bit of a risk.
2) True, CM9 is no longer being focused on, Jellybean is the center of attention. No it is not considered steady/daily driver material. You might as well flash a jelly bean rom if you are going to flash a newer rom on ur NT.
3) If you want a guarantee that a ROM will run on the NT 8GB, the CM7 ROM by celticwebsolutions internal version is your best bet. It should be guaranteed to work. All those features you mentioned should be working. VOIP does not work on any of the ROM's currently
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Thanks a lot, that really answers most of my questions. To keep you guys on edge, just two more :
With the CM7 'celticwebsolutions rom' you mention 'internal'. I assume that you mean that this rom overwrites the stock rom. Is there an alternative 100% steady CM7 rom that can be loaded aside the stock rom (on external SD)?
Does the rooted version of the stock rom support VOIP, such as skype?
"Does the rooted version of the stock rom support VOIP, such as skype?" Nope, rooted not rooted on any version will not support direct Skype or Video conferencing app that I know of on NT. This may change once OTG is implemented in future development.
chris996 said:
Thanks a lot, that really answers most of my questions. To keep you guys on edge, just two more :
With the CM7 'celticwebsolutions rom' you mention 'internal'. I assume that you mean that this rom overwrites the stock rom. Is there an alternative 100% steady CM7 rom that can be loaded aside the stock rom (on external SD)?
Does the rooted version of the stock rom support VOIP, such as skype?
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chris996 said:
Thanks a lot, that really answers most of my questions. To keep you guys on edge, just two more :
With the CM7 'celticwebsolutions rom' you mention 'internal'. I assume that you mean that this rom overwrites the stock rom. Is there an alternative 100% steady CM7 rom that can be loaded aside the stock rom (on external SD)?
Does the rooted version of the stock rom support VOIP, such as skype?
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for your first question, there is an SD version but it has not been confirmed to work with NT 8GB
You can however make your own internal sd card version using the internal version provided here and instructions that are listed over a succulent's blog: www.iamafanof.wordpress.com
if you aren't all too tech savvy, I would advise against making your own bootable SD, but if want to experiment and learn a thing or two, go for it!
chris996 said:
Thanks a lot, that really answers most of my questions. To keep you guys on edge, just two more :
With the CM7 'celticwebsolutions rom' you mention 'internal'. I assume that you mean that this rom overwrites the stock rom. Is there an alternative 100% steady CM7 rom that can be loaded aside the stock rom (on external SD)?
Does the rooted version of the stock rom support VOIP, such as skype?
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There are instructions on how to install/create your own SD Card version of any ROM, you just have to try it out.
Skype isn't supported at all. It will install (according to the Play Store online) on my JB (AOKP) NT16, but I don't think it will run. For one thing, there's no camera or camera support.
Which rom can i call with viber or skype??? I used viber on Cm7 but i just can send text message,and when i call i cant hear or talk with anyone:what::what::what:
Cant anybody help me???
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BadKid3011 said:
Which rom can i call with viber or skype??? I used viber on Cm7 but i just can send text message,and when i call i cant hear or talk with anyone:what::what::what:
Cant anybody help me???
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Why not use Magicjack for voip, it free unless you want to get the dongle for less than $30. With video conferencing app like skype, you can only text but what the point of that.
I have "inherited" a Nook tablet from my brother. It is rooted and has CM on it. I believe that is is modded internally as I can flip between the Stock software and CM (ADW) using the N button.
I have a couple of questions:
1) How can I determine what version of CM it is running?
2) How can I change the B&N registration to my own and remove his?
3) How can I change the Google account to my own instead of his?
Or if it is recommended, should I just unroot and restore to stock and start over. I would like to keep CM on it as I like the way it is set up.
Thanks
Diane
stlarenas said:
I have "inherited" a Nook tablet from my brother. It is rooted and has CM on it. I believe that is is modded internally as I can flip between the Stock software and CM (ADW) using the N button.
I have a couple of questions:
1) How can I determine what version of CM it is running?
2) How can I change the B&N registration to my own and remove his?
3) How can I change the Google account to my own instead of his?
Or if it is recommended, should I just unroot and restore to stock and start over. I would like to keep CM on it as I like the way it is set up.
Thanks
Diane
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It may not have CM at all, but just a different launcher i.e. ADW. When I first Rooted mine - before bootloader was cracked - it ran similarly, with stock launcher and 3rd party launcher. Go into settings and look under "about" or "device info" or whatever it may be. Will be different with different builds. If your software says 1.4.X you are still on stock, but most likely rooted.
If this is the case go to this thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415812
and also this one here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1666065
These should give you all the info that you need and will link you to other threads within the community.
My advice is to just put a custom recovery on this and then flash a custom ROM, this will let you register the thing from scratch.
Also, try and find out which NT you have. There are two versions, the 16G and the 8G models. This will be important to know.
Enjoy.
DavDoc said:
It may not have CM at all, but just a different launcher i.e. ADW. When I first Rooted mine - before bootloader was cracked - it ran similarly, with stock launcher and 3rd party launcher. Go into settings and look under "about" or "device info" or whatever it may be. Will be different with different builds. If your software says 1.4.X you are still on stock, but most likely rooted.
If this is the case go to this thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415812
and also this one here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1666065
These should give you all the info that you need and will link you to other threads within the community.
My advice is to just put a custom recovery on this and then flash a custom ROM, this will let you register the thing from scratch.
Also, try and find out which NT you have. There are two versions, the 16G and the 8G models. This will be important to know.
Enjoy.
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When I go to Device Info it says this?
B&N Storage available 11.87GB (so this is a 16GB unit right?)
About your NOOK:
Software version 9.9.9
Model Number BNTV250
Under ADW Settings
ADW Version - 1.3.6 System CM 1.1
I will am happy to try whatever is recommended but I am uncertain where to start since this isn't a Stock tablet.
Yes, this is stock. the 9.9.9 was an old hack that blocked BN updates that, at the time, removed root access. Go to the two links I posted above, that should give you a good start. Post here if you have any questions AFTER reading those.
Oh and, you do have the 16G version. It is stock rooted with - I am assuming - version 1.4.1.
Good luck
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Deregister the previous owner's account and register the device on yourself before you do anything else.
It looks to me like it is just rooted and no new ROM installed.
DavDoc said:
Yes, this is stock. the 9.9.9 was an old hack that blocked BN updates that, at the time, removed root access. Go to the two links I posted above, that should give you a good start. Post here if you have any questions AFTER reading those.
Oh and, you do have the 16G version. It is stock rooted with - I am assuming - version 1.4.1.
Good luck
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asawi said:
Deregister the previous owner's account and register the device on yourself before you do anything else.
It looks to me like it is just rooted and no new ROM installed.
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Thanks for the help!
So I will go ahead and deregister the device from the settings page in the Nook and then start from scratch with the links DavDoc posted.
Will deregistering the device unroot the device, or will I need to root it again?
asawi said:
Deregister the previous owner's account and register the device on yourself before you do anything else.
It looks to me like it is just rooted and no new ROM installed.
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This all depends how you want to use it. If you want to stay with stock, ya follow this advice. If you want to run a custom ROM (software) then I would just skip to flashing a custom recovery. But this is all just oppinion, READ UP FIRST, then make an informed dessision of what would work best for you.
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You will never be able to register the device to a BN account unless you deregister it from the previous owners account. For example if you want to use Nook for Android in a custom ROM. BN database keeps the serial number locked to the registered account so it's best to have it linked to you and not to someone else.
asawi said:
Deregister the previous owner's account and register the device on yourself before you do anything else.
It looks to me like it is just rooted and no new ROM installed.
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+1.
You will not be able to de-register the previous account once you install and run custom ROM.
Is there currently a way to have both the Amazon App store and the Google Play store working together? On the newest update?
Does rooting have any adverse affects from Amazon? Like will anything stop working?
I plan on buying a used tablet, how can I check to make sure the tablet is deactivated so that I can use my own Amazon stuff on it and it doesn't get marked as stolen?
I may think of other questions I need help with in the meantime, but thanks for any help.
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Hobox10 said:
Is there currently a way to have both the Amazon App store and the Google Play store working together? On the newest update?
Does rooting have any adverse affects from Amazon? Like will anything stop working?
I plan on buying a used tablet, how can I check to make sure the tablet is deactivated so that I can use my own Amazon stuff on it and it doesn't get marked as stolen?
I may think of other questions I need help with in the meantime, but thanks for any help.
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Check out the general section, you will find the anwser you seek. if you have any other questions there is also a search abilility..there are only about a half a dozen threads titled with the same or basically the same as yours...thanks for visiting and I hope you find all the information you need. Previous owner must unregister. the tablet from their account before u received it.and I would attempt to register it and setup your account before cash exchanges hands or contact amazon with id to verify that it has not been blackliisted already, it can either be unregistered by owner from tab then reset . Or done through ther online account..
A lot of the threads I have read seem to have people contradicting or trying to figure out what actually works or not, or is simply outdated.
Yeah, I'm with OP. I have a new Fire HDX and am trying to figure out the 'best' way to root it, and after reading through everything I'm more confused than before.
I haven't taken my Fire out of the box yet. There seems to be discussion that if I haven't downloaded an OTA yet, I can root in a way others can't because the new updates block it?
Is there a known "best" ROM someone can point us to?
Why do I keep seeing everyone say 'don't ever turn on wifi!'? I assume that is just to not get the OTA update at the beginning. But once rooted, obv we can use wifi right?
Is every root method dependant on creating a separate partition for the new ROM, and whenever we use the Kindle we have to choose to use the stock amazon rom or the new ROM we've flashed?
Thanks!
well
lordtigger said:
Yeah, I'm with OP. I have a new Fire HDX and am trying to figure out the 'best' way to root it, and after reading through everything I'm more confused than before.
I haven't taken my Fire out of the box yet. There seems to be discussion that if I haven't downloaded an OTA yet, I can root in a way others can't because the new updates block it?
Is there a known "best" ROM someone can point us to?
Why do I keep seeing everyone say 'don't ever turn on wifi!'? I assume that is just to not get the OTA update at the beginning. But once rooted, obv we can use wifi right?
Is every root method dependant on creating a separate partition for the new ROM, and whenever we use the Kindle we have to choose to use the stock amazon rom or the new ROM we've flashed?
Thanks!
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Well "root"has nothing to do with seperate partitions n such. root is all permission control over system.
The only way to flash anything currently is being on older os rooting,then installing safestrap which will set up alternate system and data boot path allowing you to flash a ROM separately from your factory os ,as to not disturb it. Because currently we do not have stable working fastboot for this device. As for BEST rom. In any situation is totally in one own experience and opinions. Currently there isn't any selection if u look in development section the only two that function only work on old firmware ...you can roll back to that firmware ..but also bootloader is locked tight thus the need for a "safe" type of recovery as of moment only works on older firmware also. Just.within the last couple of days have reveiled a couple of rooting options for lastest firmware so ...this tab per Amazon gives no warning nor asks permission to upgrade of firmware which unrooted a ton of people last few months...soooo no root no development....now we have root again we will get going again..Have fun and most of all be PATIENT and do not ask for ETA remember all the developers here are doing that on there FreeTime and free of pay most the time. AS FAR as rooting and adding gapps to newest firmware I heard that it has been achieved with HDXPOSED found in development and permission module . Then sideload gapps... As far as adverse effects... Like I said you will have to be patient if you want somebody else to find out bugs for you.. still to new .....due to new root releases..like last three days.
I'm perfectly fine with the stock rom honestly, as long as I can get Google Play store working alongside the Amazon app store. Now, assuming I can root when I receive the tablet, I will install safestrap. Is there any bugs or anything with safestrap but just using the stock rom? I saw some people mention getting permission errors and such but I think that was just for custom roms in another slot. I only want safestrap to make a backup.
Basically, is there any actual danger to modifying the stock rom at all, even something simply like play store? Or should it all be done on a custom rom slot? I would assume having the backup would mean if something got messed up I can just restore it.
Secondly, there is a SEPARATE play store mod you can do where they don't both work together right? I believe I saw something about it where you just have to install a custom launcher, and with the custom launcher the google play apps work but under the amazon launcher, amazon stuff works? If that's correct, does that work without root? Because I can live with that temporarily until root is secured.
Thanks.
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Hobox10 said:
I'm perfectly fine with the stock rom honestly, as long as I can get Google Play store working alongside the Amazon app store. Now, assuming I can root when I receive the tablet, I will install safestrap. Is there any bugs or anything with safestrap but just using the stock rom? I saw some people mention getting permission errors and such but I think that was just for custom roms in another slot. I only want safestrap to make a backup.
Basically, is there any actual danger to modifying the stock rom at all, even something simply like play store? Or should it all be done on a custom rom slot? I would assume having the backup would mean if something got messed up I can just restore it.
Secondly, there is a SEPARATE play store mod you can do where they don't both work together right? I believe I saw something about it where you just have to install a custom launcher, and with the custom launcher the google play apps work but under the amazon launcher, amazon stuff works? If that's correct, does that work without root? Because I can live with that temporarily until root is secured.
Thanks.
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As far as I know gapps aside from gmail will not work without root and HDXposed..(fixes permissions)and as far as doing any mods to stock slot it is not advised because of very difficult if even possible recovery due to no fastboot capabilities. Check for bugs for any mods in associated threads. As far as flashing anything ,again I am not sure safestrap is functioning on latest firmware .. And there hasn't been enough time for any development because of the recent rooting capabilities.
Alright, so it sounds like this is what I should do then:
Get tablet
Root it (If I can't, then I stop here)
Install safestrap
Backup
Install the backup on romslot 1??
Make the modifications I want to romslot 1
Is that right?
Also let's assume I can't root it, I can still sideload most apps I want like Gmail, Youtube, etc? (Those aren't on the amazon app store correct?)
yeap
Hobox10 said:
Alright, so it sounds like this is what I should do then:
Get tablet
Root it (If I can't, then I stop here)
Install safestrap
Backup
Install the backup on romslot 1??
Make the modifications I want to romslot 1
Is that right?
Also let's assume I can't root it, I can still sideload most apps I want like Gmail, Youtube, etc? (Those aren't on the amazon app store correct?)
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Yeah I would say you just about got the idea .... If it is a brand-new unit you have a possibility that it will be on the old firmware still ... That is why they need to bypass activation skip set up . And check firmware before you hook it to any active Wi-Fi service .. And even if it does or is already updated there is now root available for the latest firmware ... It's just a question whether or not we can get anything else to work along with the latest firmware ... I would be advised if you attempt to run the OTA blocker which comes in the HDX utility you may have Wi-Fi glitches and reboots .... But like I said those bugs need to be checked for and follow through and repaired in their associated threads ... Not a new thread that only plugs up our forums but puts the helpful threads on the next page where cannot find them ... Remember there are multiple pages each forum section and some of the helpful threads have been buried on the next page due to people starting new threads with the same questions or problem... That have been resolved already... Remember reading is more informative than typing . And remember if anybody here is giving you their personal time to answer your questions and respond to your post it is courtesy here to hit the thanks button in the left lower corner of the post.End rant. thx
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