I have "inherited" a Nook tablet from my brother. It is rooted and has CM on it. I believe that is is modded internally as I can flip between the Stock software and CM (ADW) using the N button.
I have a couple of questions:
1) How can I determine what version of CM it is running?
2) How can I change the B&N registration to my own and remove his?
3) How can I change the Google account to my own instead of his?
Or if it is recommended, should I just unroot and restore to stock and start over. I would like to keep CM on it as I like the way it is set up.
Thanks
Diane
stlarenas said:
I have "inherited" a Nook tablet from my brother. It is rooted and has CM on it. I believe that is is modded internally as I can flip between the Stock software and CM (ADW) using the N button.
I have a couple of questions:
1) How can I determine what version of CM it is running?
2) How can I change the B&N registration to my own and remove his?
3) How can I change the Google account to my own instead of his?
Or if it is recommended, should I just unroot and restore to stock and start over. I would like to keep CM on it as I like the way it is set up.
Thanks
Diane
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It may not have CM at all, but just a different launcher i.e. ADW. When I first Rooted mine - before bootloader was cracked - it ran similarly, with stock launcher and 3rd party launcher. Go into settings and look under "about" or "device info" or whatever it may be. Will be different with different builds. If your software says 1.4.X you are still on stock, but most likely rooted.
If this is the case go to this thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415812
and also this one here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1666065
These should give you all the info that you need and will link you to other threads within the community.
My advice is to just put a custom recovery on this and then flash a custom ROM, this will let you register the thing from scratch.
Also, try and find out which NT you have. There are two versions, the 16G and the 8G models. This will be important to know.
Enjoy.
DavDoc said:
It may not have CM at all, but just a different launcher i.e. ADW. When I first Rooted mine - before bootloader was cracked - it ran similarly, with stock launcher and 3rd party launcher. Go into settings and look under "about" or "device info" or whatever it may be. Will be different with different builds. If your software says 1.4.X you are still on stock, but most likely rooted.
If this is the case go to this thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1415812
and also this one here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1666065
These should give you all the info that you need and will link you to other threads within the community.
My advice is to just put a custom recovery on this and then flash a custom ROM, this will let you register the thing from scratch.
Also, try and find out which NT you have. There are two versions, the 16G and the 8G models. This will be important to know.
Enjoy.
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When I go to Device Info it says this?
B&N Storage available 11.87GB (so this is a 16GB unit right?)
About your NOOK:
Software version 9.9.9
Model Number BNTV250
Under ADW Settings
ADW Version - 1.3.6 System CM 1.1
I will am happy to try whatever is recommended but I am uncertain where to start since this isn't a Stock tablet.
Yes, this is stock. the 9.9.9 was an old hack that blocked BN updates that, at the time, removed root access. Go to the two links I posted above, that should give you a good start. Post here if you have any questions AFTER reading those.
Oh and, you do have the 16G version. It is stock rooted with - I am assuming - version 1.4.1.
Good luck
Sent with my Dinc4G
Deregister the previous owner's account and register the device on yourself before you do anything else.
It looks to me like it is just rooted and no new ROM installed.
DavDoc said:
Yes, this is stock. the 9.9.9 was an old hack that blocked BN updates that, at the time, removed root access. Go to the two links I posted above, that should give you a good start. Post here if you have any questions AFTER reading those.
Oh and, you do have the 16G version. It is stock rooted with - I am assuming - version 1.4.1.
Good luck
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asawi said:
Deregister the previous owner's account and register the device on yourself before you do anything else.
It looks to me like it is just rooted and no new ROM installed.
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Thanks for the help!
So I will go ahead and deregister the device from the settings page in the Nook and then start from scratch with the links DavDoc posted.
Will deregistering the device unroot the device, or will I need to root it again?
asawi said:
Deregister the previous owner's account and register the device on yourself before you do anything else.
It looks to me like it is just rooted and no new ROM installed.
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This all depends how you want to use it. If you want to stay with stock, ya follow this advice. If you want to run a custom ROM (software) then I would just skip to flashing a custom recovery. But this is all just oppinion, READ UP FIRST, then make an informed dessision of what would work best for you.
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You will never be able to register the device to a BN account unless you deregister it from the previous owners account. For example if you want to use Nook for Android in a custom ROM. BN database keeps the serial number locked to the registered account so it's best to have it linked to you and not to someone else.
asawi said:
Deregister the previous owner's account and register the device on yourself before you do anything else.
It looks to me like it is just rooted and no new ROM installed.
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+1.
You will not be able to de-register the previous account once you install and run custom ROM.
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Hey guys I'm pretty new here and i wanted to get some feedback, did not find any similar topics around.
I want to root my NT 16gb but i see a lot of different methods and ways to perform it, whats the best way of going?
CM9 or CM7?
Easiest method to do it?
i got a 16gb microSD also!
Any opinions?
THANK YOU!
Rooting and applying a custom rom like cm7 or cm9 do not necessarily go together, an unfortunate assumption many new android users make. The former allows you root access and thus you can do things with the device you otherwise would not have been able to do. Flashing a custom rom will literally change the operating system entirely. Both are also completely reversible. So the question is, what do you want? Root access or a new OS entirely (note that custom roms almost always have root access).
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ooojnrooo said:
Hey guys I'm pretty new here and i wanted to get some feedback, did not find any similar topics around.
I want to root my NT 16gb but i see a lot of different methods and ways to perform it, whats the best way of going?
CM9 or CM7?
Easiest method to do it?
i got a 16gb microSD also!
Any opinions?
THANK YOU!
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I'm fairly new at this also, got my 16G NT (1.4.1) a couple days ago, and I'll tell you what I did. At first, I rooted it because I wanted (at least) access to the Kindle reader, but the google market/play is not available so B&N could control it. Rooting AND installing google apps (aka gapps) give you the market and more. From there you can install the go launcher and have a pretty nice overlay that looks ICS-like. Here's what I used and it seemed to go pretty smooth:
Part 1:
This thread by the developer Indirect shows how to do the root along with gaaps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466583
And here is an invaluable video from albertwertz that goes along with it. This helped me get the confidence to do it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I403bagL9rw
He has an update to this show at the beginning of the video, but I did not use that.
The secret sauce is in making a bootable SD card with both the image that gives you CWM (clockworks mod), which is basically a loader that allow you to then load the .zip file which contains the root and gapps files.
After I went through the process, nothing seemed to have changed at all on the NT, but after some head scratching I realized that gapps is the key and it had in fact been loaded. So hit the home button and then search and type in market. Voila, the google market is now there and you can download anything that is compatible with the NT (like kindle and the go launcher).
Part 2.
The go launcher is great, but everytime I hit home, I had to navigate to the go launcher and launch the nicer ics-like skin, so I decided to go for CM9. I'm not at all disappointed that I did. Netflix does not work, but seemingly everything else does and does nicely. Here's how:
Basically, you just need to get the CM9.003 file, and "flash" that just as you flashed the root and google apps zip. I'm sure you have figured out by now that flashing just means loading the new program into "flash" memory, which is just a read/write memory that is non-volatile. (does not erase at power down).
What I wound up up doing is placing the CM9 zip file on a separate SD card, then used the one I originally used for rooting to get into the CWM recovery program. Once there, pop it out and insert the CM9 zip and run that one from CWM. Reboot and you're running Android 4.0.4.
Here's the link for the CM9 install, courtesy of developer chrmhoffmann:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1534192
Here's a link to the CM9 zip:
http://goo.im/devs/chrmhoffmann/cm9/update-cm9-acclaim-alpha0.03-fullofbugs.zip
One more thing: You actually should put two zips on that 2nd SD, the 2nd one being google apps (aka gapps), as for some reason it is not included in the CM9 zip as it was in step 1. Here's the link to that file:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Latest_Version/Google_Apps
It's the app for CM9, and just in case, here's the download link:
http://cmw.22aaf3.com/gapps/gapps-ics-20120317-signed.zip
So now you have 2 zips on the 2nd SD card. Run them both, first the CM9 zip and then the gapps zip, reboot.
Sorry that's so long, but that's what I did and it worked out well for me once I figured it out...
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One more thing. When you get into the CWM recovery program (the one you'll see when you boot from the 1st SD card, don't forget to run a backup of the original ROM, IE the factory version in case you want to go back.
I'm not an expert on the backup and recover process, and there apparently other ways to restore to the original NT 1.4.0 or 1.4.1, but I would do that anyway...
I wanted to say "very good" ! . and a note that i think should be added... is the importance of wiping the dalvik and the data cache within the flash process. . lots of people get clobbered by this ommission.
georgia boy said:
One more thing: You actually should put two zips on that 2nd SD, the 2nd one being google apps (aka gapps), as for some reason it is not included in the CM9 zip as it was in step 1.
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Allow me to explain. Gapps, or google apps are a seperate package of apps created by google. They are not apps that are included with "pure" Android and thus Google does not want them included with roms for whatever legal reasons. They were included in the step 1 you gave because that is simply rooting. Rooting and throwing apps onto a rom like the stock version is not flashing a custom ROM. In fact its no different than if a developer were to release a custom rom that didnt have root access, but someone wrote a script that gave you root access and installed those google apps.
tl;dr gapps are legally required to be a separate package from custom roms.
Hello,
As crazy as this sounds, is there an SD card image that is bootable similar to CM7 that isn't rooted? I want to use my Nook as a tablet for work but the IT department has an application that verifies that the device isn't rooted before you can get corporate mail. If there isn't an image, does anyone know if there is a way to reset the status on the Nook so that it doesn't show that it's been rooted?
Since I've started using my Nook booted off of the card I can't think of more than a couple times that I've needed root access. And each of those times I could just as easily moved to a different load/card. Being able to power down and swap cards is pretty snazzy. I received my nook as a holiday gift and I've loved running it off the card. I haven't loaded CM7 or anything else into internal memory because I like having the ability to revert back to B&N build if I need to.
My current setup is a Nook Tablet 16Gb running CM7 from SD card.
Mod version CyanogenMod-7.2.0-RC0-acclaim-Team-B
Android version: 2.3.7
Thanks in advance for any help.
Well you could always just boot into your internal ROM and use that at work. The root access you have only is available on your SD ROM so there's no real way for them to tell if you've ever had root access.
Although I don't know how they check in the first place, so that might be a little out of place for me to say.
If I not mistaken this is what you're looking for.
Nikkie
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21275927
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Thank you for the advice.
Solar.Plexus: regrettably that is the crux of the issue. The company uses an app that is on the Google Play store for checking the device and the B&N internal rom doesn't have access to that. The card has access to the Play store but is rooted. It's like a rock and a hard place.
NikkieL: That is pretty much what I have already. I was wondering if there was an image that was complete but wasn't rooted.
Thanks again.
taferguson said:
Thank you for the advice.
Solar.Plexus: regrettably that is the crux of the issue. The company uses an app that is on the Google Play store for checking the device and the B&N internal rom doesn't have access to that. The card has access to the Play store but is rooted. It's like a rock and a hard place.
NikkieL: That is pretty much what I have already. I was wondering if there was an image that was complete but wasn't rooted.
Thanks again.
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Oh, I understand now. You need access to Google Play, but you can't have root.
I don't know if you can unroot a CyanogenMod ROM or not. Haha honestly, this is the only time I've ever seen this requested. Maybe if you remove some binaries and SuperUser completely, but I'm not so sure.
Try the app "voodoo rootkeeper"
Cubanluke88: That worked. I was able to get through the health check of my device. The "UN-Root" button worked like a charm.
I'd just like to provide some info on how this all works.
So the stock OS on the Nook is like most Android devices in that the end user does not have "root access." We have a few tools to allow users to gain root access on the stock OS.
Now, we also have a handful of custom versions of Android (roms). They all, as far as I know, come with root access. This means that upon installing them, whether to internal or booting from an sdcard, you will have root access, i.e. full access to the rom's file system. Developers could, if they so chose, create roms that did not have root access. In fact, back in March, the official CM team added the options in developer options, allowing users to disable root altogether, enable it for Android Debug Bridge mode (ADB) only, enable it for apps only or enable it for both (though I think this is only for CM9 and beyond).
Essentially the OP was asking for a way to have a custom rom (CM7) without root access. The app I suggested disables root access and allows you to toggle it back on when you need it. Its fantastic for stock versions. As many have found out, taking official updates usually removes root access. Voodoo Rootkeeper allows your device to preserve the apps/exploit essential for root access and to restore it when you need it.
^^^ That is the kind of post that helps newbies, like me, learn the ins and outs. Thank you.:good:
NT newbie here. I have previously rooted my T-Mobile G2 and installed custom ROMs on it.
I am looking to root a brand new NT 16GB, install the Play Store, Amazon Appstore.... and am looking for the best way to do it without voiding the warranty. I have been reading through the forums and am confused about which one to use.
Any pros/cons to installing a custom ROM?
All responses are greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
FullScreen57 said:
NT newbie here. I have previously rooted my T-Mobile G2 and installed custom ROMs on it.
I am looking to root a brand new NT 16GB, install the Play Store, Amazon Appstore.... and am looking for the best way to do it without voiding the warranty. I have been reading through the forums and am confused about which one to use.
Any pros/cons to installing a custom ROM?
All responses are greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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You cannot root without voiding the warranty, that's one of the risks you take. It's the same with (almost) every device. I think the Nexus line may be the exception to that, but I'm not certain.
That said, the link in my sig works for me and many others.
If you've read around here you should be aware that unless you mess up REALLY bad there's always a way back to stock. And a n easy one at that in most cases!
You don't need to install new ROM to get access to Play and Amazon. Just a simple root will do if that's all you're after. I've only usde Albert Wertz's sd-card root so I have no opinion on "best", and I do think it's kind of frowned upon here to vent opinions of one developer's work against another. I'm pretty sure they are all VERY good!
There is also the alternative of running CM10 from sd card. I do that at the moment and I'm thoroughly impressed how smooth it is ad how well it works! And I can easily run stocj when I want to (I do like the stock reader and I prefer it to the BN app, but that's just my opinion!)
asawi said:
If you've read around here you should be aware that unless you mess up REALLY bad there's always a way back to stock. And a n easy one at that in most cases!
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I found that the easiest way to recover to stock is to backup your own stock config to an external SDcard using the "backup and restore" option of the same Recovery (e.g., CWM) that you uses to flash ROM/gapps/Rooting zip file onto the tablet, and keep a copy of the backup folder as well as the particular version Recovery on your PC and archived CD/DVD etc. (or simply just save that SDcard aside) for the rainy days which are bound to happen by virtue of Murphy's Laws (I know this as it happened to me many times, completely accidentally when I wasn't even trying to root or flash a ROM onto my NT ...).
The backup copy can be used to restore to your stock config as long as none of the tablet's pertinent partitions is missing or inaccessible (e.g., due to some botched attempts to reformat/repartition/resize the tablet's emmc).
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liquidzoo said:
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That said, the link in my sig works for me and many others.
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I rooted my NT using the update.zip you recommended, the Google voice search does not work: whenever I try to use it I get the error message: "no resul found for pname:com.google.android.voicesearch". Any suggestion on a fix for it?
I'm not sure what the files are in my zip, honestly. The zip came originally from Indirect. I just reposted it because too many people couldn't find it (the original link had expired).
As far as voice search, have you tried updating Google search in the Play Store? That might help.
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liquidzoo said:
I'm not sure what the files are in my zip, honestly. The zip came originally from Indirect. I just reposted it because too many people couldn't find it (the original link had expired).
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My presumption was mistaken, that app (TestCenterService) is not in the update.zip. I am guessing it's a system app and part of the original stock ROM but simply hidden from users in the NT's un-rooted state (hence I never saw it before).
As far as voice search, have you tried updating Google search in the Play Store? That might help.
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Yes, I did the update but it hasn't helped. Does "voice search" (from the Google search box widget on the homescreen) work on your NT?
digixmax said:
Yes, I did the update but it hasn't helped. Does "voice search" (from the Google search box widget on the homescreen) work on your NT?
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I haven't tried it honestly. I know that the mic has issues on some/most JB ROMs. Mostly my NT is used so my kids can play with it.
Voice search works beautifully on my NT running CM10 from sd. I run Succulents (?) 1208.
asawi said:
Voice search works beautifully on my NT running CM10 from sd. I run Succulents (?) 1208.
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I know it does, as I too am running CM10 off an SDcard.
The original post for the easy instructions to root the NT are a mess. The original instructions for doing it on Windows aren't even complete. I started building the files by following the Linux version of the instructions since they actually made sense and had the files you were to get.
If I'm not mistaken though I ended up using this to root the nook although it wasn't really what I was looking for considering I had CM7 and I would get a boot choice to go nook or android. That all stopped when the sd card I was using freaked itself and failed leaving me stuck at the N screen unless I pulled the SD card. My intentions were to leave the NT stock and not mess with it and run Cyanogen on the sd card. What it appears I'm left with though (without installing a rom) is a co-mingling Nook OS and Android OS since I'm now able to choose a launcher and I have Android screens with those launchers in the Nook itself. Which this is kinda cool because I don't have to reboot the system to switch to the reader anymore.
I installed Launcher 8 to give it some WIN8 love and easy access for my fiancee whom uses a mouth stick to get around in android easier. My problem I'm having is the android system doesn't seem complete. I'm assuming there are gaps missing or something because things are slow and some things aren't working when the icon is selected. Which simulates the program isn't actually there or the files to make it work.
Obviously there wouldn't be a phone but there are other things that used to work with the dual booting CM7 installed on the old SD card that aren't working now.
Since I'm not exactly sure if the above is how I ended up rooting the device I don't even know where to go from here to adding anything to it.
I'm not a developer and loaded this thing up about this time last year. The scenery has changed over the year and I'm kinda lost with all this again. Spent most of the day yesterday trying to figure out where I was and really got no where. So hopefully someone get's what I'm talking about and can give me the push in the right direction.
Not looking to make it dual boot again because this is easier for my fiancee to use like it is. Just want everything to work right like it should. I couldn't tell you what version android I have on here because I never actually loaded an individual rom yet there is android functioning on the device. My idea was to get the newest android which isn't 4.4 yet and is actually from what I can tell that is working would be JB. Yet I have no clue what this thing is running on with the loader and such I have on it.
I'm not enirely sure what it is you want, You say you don't want dual boot, and yet you talk about the non-wotking sd card as if you actually want dual boot.
Anyway, IF you want dual boot you don't need to root it at all. Just burn an sd card with a ready-made CM10.x image, pop it in and boot up. Then choose either internal, stock boot or run from sd-card.
Here is a link to a page with ready-made sd card image file:
http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/
(This guy, Succulent, has inages of later versions of CM10.x as well, but this is the one I had a link to wothout having to go look for it.)
If you want the Tablet back to fresh "out of the box" condition you can use a repart.img that you can find by looking around a bit. I have referred to it in several posts, but I don't have a link at hand right now, Google is your friend...
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I'm not enirely sure what it is you want, You say you don't want dual boot, and yet you talk about the non-wotking sd card as if you actually want dual boot.
Anyway, IF you want dual boot you don't need to root it at all. Just burn an sd card with a ready-made CM10.x image, pop it in and boot up. Then choose either internal, stock boot or run from sd-card.
Here is a link to a page with ready-made sd card image file:
http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/
(This guy, Succulent, has inages of later versions of CM10.x as well, but this is the one I had a link to wothout having to go look for it.)
If you want the Tablet back to fresh "out of the box" condition you can use a repart.img that you can find by looking around a bit. I have referred to it in several posts, but I don't have a link at hand right now, Google is your friend...
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*The non working sd card*
It was running as a dual boot before with cyogen or something like that and it would be selectable to go to Nook or the CM7 Android. That card somehow just died and can't even be seen in Windows anymore (have an rma filed with Patriot).
I rooted the nook and now I have what appears to be a partial android OS running inside the BN Nook OS but things aren't functioning. (I prefer it like this vs the dual boot way) So it's like I need a gapps file or something. All settings links lead to the Nook OS settings page and nothing get's me to the Android settings which is why I state it appears to be a partial Android OS. I don't even know what OS version it is because nothing fully functions with the Android side of things. (Take the Launcher8 Loader I installed. No icons actually open what they should. Selecting an icon leads to that icons settings and not what it should be opening. I have the same loader on my Skyrocket so I know how it SHOULD function and selecting an icon to get options for it is not correct. You have to press and hold to get the button to set the icon options.)
You won't get "proper" Android just by rooting. For that you need to install CM x.x. Either install it internally or run it from sd (that you apparently don't want to do)
I have not followed the particular root process you used, but both of the ones I have used myself come with gApps included.
The ones I have used:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488035
Or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21275927#post21275927
The first one (Brian’s) require a 2 GB card the other one (Albert’s) just needs a very small card. (I think 128 MB would do, but I don’t have any that small to try)
Both give good instructions in their topics.
Both install gApps.
asawi said:
You won't get "proper" Android just by rooting. For that you need to install CM x.x. Either install it internally or run it from sd (that you apprently don't want to do)
I have not followed the particular root process you used, but both of the ones I have used myself come with gApps included.
The ones I have used:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1488035
Or http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...7#post21275927
The first one (Brian’s) require a 2 GB card the other one (Albert’s) just needs a very small card. (I think 128 MB would do, but I don’t have any that small to try)
Both give good instructions in their topics.
Both install gApps.
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404 on the first link and not found on the other link. LOL Your having the luck I am.
LOL looks like you found out yourself.
scgt1 said:
404 on the first link and not found on the other link. LOL Your having the luck I am.
LOL looks like you found out yourself.
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Edited links so they work now.
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Edited links so they work now.
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Brian's method looks a hell of a lot familiar like that may have been what I did instead but the listing of apps with his doesn't match what I have on the nook now: (only thing I didn't put in the list was what I installed off google play which is launcher8)
android reader
car home
chess
contacts
crossword
downloads
email
es file explorer
flash player settings
getjar
google search
home
home manager
home catcher
hulu plus
music player
my media
netflix
news and weather
nook friends
nook video
nookhwtest
nookviewer
nt hidden settings
pandora
play store
sound recorder
spare parts
splashtop remote
sudoku
superuser
talk
testcenterservice
twitter
That is all the installed apps that pull up under the Nook OS with using Launcher8 and swipping the homescreen to the left it pulls up a list of installed apps just like windows phone.
It must be brians anyway because I just opened the nook hidden settings and under the about Nook Tablet Hidden Settings it shows:
Contact information: [email protected]
Version 0.5.0
I'm just going to move this over here:
asawi said:
This is the development section. Not meant for Q&A. I've already told you how you can return the Tablet to out of the box condition over in that section.
Sent from my Nook HD+ using Tapatalk 4
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It is the development section I am aware of that and can read. I'm in the 10.2 thread which is actually what I want running on the NT. So what better place to get the help for it then in the thread for it like everyone else has.
Actually you are incorrect as you say nothing about returning the tablet to stock out of the box. Must have been someone else your thinking of. I don't want it to be out of the box though. The nook OS was already setup with apps and books etc. I just want to reverse the rooting I guess to remove the stock android from it so I can then use the links you provided to create a correct root and dual boot using wait for it.....
CM 10.2
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Actually you are incorrect as you say nothing about returning the tablet to stock out of the box.
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Really?? Read the last two lines in my first post in this topic.
Also, there is a sticky on top of the topic list in the development section about what is meant to go there and what's not: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1499105
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Really?? Read the last two lines in my first post in this topic.
Also, there is a sticky on top of the topic list in the development section about what is meant to go there and what's not: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1499105
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Ok I stand corrected on that matter, but stock out of the box isn't what I want.
I'm not sure you can undo what you've done without loosing content. But as long as you backup your sideloaded stuff, your BN books and apps can be dowloaded at any time.
I suppose you can stay rooted and just disable your alternative launcher and what have you, but you said something about your system being slowed up, and I susoect fixing that without a wipe of some sort would be difficult. Could be wrong though snce I haven't dealt with that myself. Let's hope someone that knows better might come along with advice more to your liking.
While waiting for that you can always make one of the CM 10.x sd card images and run it.It will work completely independent from your trublesome stock OS.
System isn't slow at all also anything side loaded came from B&N so could also be redownloaded like the books. I was just hoping to keep all that intact as it was. There just aren't certain things working that should is all. I'm sure if I was a dev and understood all this stuff more clear I could fix it. I would rather take the easy cheesy way out and just redo it. lol Too much stuff around the house falling behind while messing with this thing.
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Not looking to make it dual boot again because this is easier for my fiancee to use like it is. Just want everything to work right like it should. I couldn't tell you what version android I have on here because I never actually loaded an individual rom yet there is android functioning on the device. My idea was to get the newest android which isn't 4.4 yet and is actually from what I can tell that is working would be JB. Yet I have no clue what this thing is running on with the loader and such I have on it.
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The BN stock ROM is based on Android v3.2 ("Honeycomb"). Rooting it essentially enables you to install additional apps beyond those that came with the stock ROM, either via the Playstore or by side-loading & installing the apps' .apk files (rooting packages/tools themselves typically add some commonly used apps (Email, Playstore, etc.) to get the user started).
The risk of using rooted stock ROM on the NT (especially as BN won't be releasing any more update for it) is you're stuck with the Android 3.2 base, thus as developers' support for 3.2 wanes over time you won't be able to install newer apps or even newer updates of many current apps. This same "Android version obsolescence" consideration also applies to CM7 and CM9.
As such I think it make the most sense to install CM10 to replace the stock ROM internally on emmc. If you value stability over having the latest/greatest bells/whistles, try Succulent's CM10.0 version dated 12/31/12, or the CM official 10.1.3.
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The BN stock ROM is based on Android v3.2 ("Honeycomb"). Rooting it essentially enables you to install additional apps beyond those that came with the stock ROM, either via the Playstore or by side-loading & installing the apps' .apk files (rooting packages/tools themselves typically add some commonly used apps (Email, Playstore, etc.) to get the user started).
The risk of using rooted stock ROM on the NT (especially as BN won't be releasing any more update for it) is you're stuck with the Android 3.2 base, thus as developers' support for 3.2 wanes over time you won't be able to install newer apps or even newer updates of many current apps. This same "Android version obsolescence" consideration also applies to CM7 and CM9.
As such I think it make the most sense to install CM10 to replace the stock ROM internally on emmc. If you value stability over having the latest/greatest bells/whistles, try Succulent's CM10.0 version dated 12/31/12, or the CM official 10.1.3.
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So CM 10 can replace the current android OS inside Nook? Or are you saying CM 10 will replace the Nook OS all together if put on the emmc?
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So CM 10 can replace the current android OS inside Nook? Or are you saying CM 10 will replace the Nook OS all together if put on the emmc?
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It will alltogether replace the Nook OS. As said in one of the posts in the development section thread they are mutually exclusive.
If you want to keep any of the original Nook functions you cannot run another Android veresion except from sd-card (meaning dual boot).
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It will alltogether replace the Nook OS. As said in one of the posts in the development section thread they are mutually exclusive.
If you want to keep any of the original Nook functions you cannot run another Android veresion except from sd-card (meaning dual boot).
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That's what I thought but the other user made it seem like CM 10 would replace the Honeycomb OS. So that leaves with with waiting for other input on the possibility to unroot without going to complete stock on the Nook..........
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That's what I thought but the other user made it seem like CM 10 would replace the Honeycomb OS. So that leaves with with waiting for other input on the possibility to unroot without going to complete stock on the Nook..........
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Unroot without going to complete stock??
Your options:
Unrooted = stock.
Rooted stock (what you run now) = stock but with access to system files and ability to use for example Google Play store.
Install CM 10.x internally = completely replacing Nook OS.
Dual boot: Running CM 10.x from sd card, leaving the Nook OS (rooted or unrooted, either works) internally. Remove sd-card or reboot through Cyanoboot (you can leave the card in the device) to get to Nook OS.
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Unroot without going to complete stock??
Your options:
Unrooted = stock.
Rooted stock (what you run now) = stock but with access to system files and ability to use for example Google Play store.
Install CM 10.x internally = completely replacing Nook OS.
Dual boot: Running CM 10.x from sd card, leaving the Nook OS (rooted or unrooted, either works) internally. Remove sd-card or reboot through Cyanoboot (you can leave the card in the device) to get to Nook OS.
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Yea haven't heard back from anyone on the returning to stock without the complete reset so It looks like I will be moving books over in the near future.
So I'm getting back onto this thing and finishing it up either tonight or tomorrow.
Resetting the Nook to stock can all be done via the nook settings correct? IE no sd card needed.
Is there currently a way to have both the Amazon App store and the Google Play store working together? On the newest update?
Does rooting have any adverse affects from Amazon? Like will anything stop working?
I plan on buying a used tablet, how can I check to make sure the tablet is deactivated so that I can use my own Amazon stuff on it and it doesn't get marked as stolen?
I may think of other questions I need help with in the meantime, but thanks for any help.
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Hobox10 said:
Is there currently a way to have both the Amazon App store and the Google Play store working together? On the newest update?
Does rooting have any adverse affects from Amazon? Like will anything stop working?
I plan on buying a used tablet, how can I check to make sure the tablet is deactivated so that I can use my own Amazon stuff on it and it doesn't get marked as stolen?
I may think of other questions I need help with in the meantime, but thanks for any help.
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Check out the general section, you will find the anwser you seek. if you have any other questions there is also a search abilility..there are only about a half a dozen threads titled with the same or basically the same as yours...thanks for visiting and I hope you find all the information you need. Previous owner must unregister. the tablet from their account before u received it.and I would attempt to register it and setup your account before cash exchanges hands or contact amazon with id to verify that it has not been blackliisted already, it can either be unregistered by owner from tab then reset . Or done through ther online account..
A lot of the threads I have read seem to have people contradicting or trying to figure out what actually works or not, or is simply outdated.
Yeah, I'm with OP. I have a new Fire HDX and am trying to figure out the 'best' way to root it, and after reading through everything I'm more confused than before.
I haven't taken my Fire out of the box yet. There seems to be discussion that if I haven't downloaded an OTA yet, I can root in a way others can't because the new updates block it?
Is there a known "best" ROM someone can point us to?
Why do I keep seeing everyone say 'don't ever turn on wifi!'? I assume that is just to not get the OTA update at the beginning. But once rooted, obv we can use wifi right?
Is every root method dependant on creating a separate partition for the new ROM, and whenever we use the Kindle we have to choose to use the stock amazon rom or the new ROM we've flashed?
Thanks!
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lordtigger said:
Yeah, I'm with OP. I have a new Fire HDX and am trying to figure out the 'best' way to root it, and after reading through everything I'm more confused than before.
I haven't taken my Fire out of the box yet. There seems to be discussion that if I haven't downloaded an OTA yet, I can root in a way others can't because the new updates block it?
Is there a known "best" ROM someone can point us to?
Why do I keep seeing everyone say 'don't ever turn on wifi!'? I assume that is just to not get the OTA update at the beginning. But once rooted, obv we can use wifi right?
Is every root method dependant on creating a separate partition for the new ROM, and whenever we use the Kindle we have to choose to use the stock amazon rom or the new ROM we've flashed?
Thanks!
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Well "root"has nothing to do with seperate partitions n such. root is all permission control over system.
The only way to flash anything currently is being on older os rooting,then installing safestrap which will set up alternate system and data boot path allowing you to flash a ROM separately from your factory os ,as to not disturb it. Because currently we do not have stable working fastboot for this device. As for BEST rom. In any situation is totally in one own experience and opinions. Currently there isn't any selection if u look in development section the only two that function only work on old firmware ...you can roll back to that firmware ..but also bootloader is locked tight thus the need for a "safe" type of recovery as of moment only works on older firmware also. Just.within the last couple of days have reveiled a couple of rooting options for lastest firmware so ...this tab per Amazon gives no warning nor asks permission to upgrade of firmware which unrooted a ton of people last few months...soooo no root no development....now we have root again we will get going again..Have fun and most of all be PATIENT and do not ask for ETA remember all the developers here are doing that on there FreeTime and free of pay most the time. AS FAR as rooting and adding gapps to newest firmware I heard that it has been achieved with HDXPOSED found in development and permission module . Then sideload gapps... As far as adverse effects... Like I said you will have to be patient if you want somebody else to find out bugs for you.. still to new .....due to new root releases..like last three days.
I'm perfectly fine with the stock rom honestly, as long as I can get Google Play store working alongside the Amazon app store. Now, assuming I can root when I receive the tablet, I will install safestrap. Is there any bugs or anything with safestrap but just using the stock rom? I saw some people mention getting permission errors and such but I think that was just for custom roms in another slot. I only want safestrap to make a backup.
Basically, is there any actual danger to modifying the stock rom at all, even something simply like play store? Or should it all be done on a custom rom slot? I would assume having the backup would mean if something got messed up I can just restore it.
Secondly, there is a SEPARATE play store mod you can do where they don't both work together right? I believe I saw something about it where you just have to install a custom launcher, and with the custom launcher the google play apps work but under the amazon launcher, amazon stuff works? If that's correct, does that work without root? Because I can live with that temporarily until root is secured.
Thanks.
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Hobox10 said:
I'm perfectly fine with the stock rom honestly, as long as I can get Google Play store working alongside the Amazon app store. Now, assuming I can root when I receive the tablet, I will install safestrap. Is there any bugs or anything with safestrap but just using the stock rom? I saw some people mention getting permission errors and such but I think that was just for custom roms in another slot. I only want safestrap to make a backup.
Basically, is there any actual danger to modifying the stock rom at all, even something simply like play store? Or should it all be done on a custom rom slot? I would assume having the backup would mean if something got messed up I can just restore it.
Secondly, there is a SEPARATE play store mod you can do where they don't both work together right? I believe I saw something about it where you just have to install a custom launcher, and with the custom launcher the google play apps work but under the amazon launcher, amazon stuff works? If that's correct, does that work without root? Because I can live with that temporarily until root is secured.
Thanks.
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As far as I know gapps aside from gmail will not work without root and HDXposed..(fixes permissions)and as far as doing any mods to stock slot it is not advised because of very difficult if even possible recovery due to no fastboot capabilities. Check for bugs for any mods in associated threads. As far as flashing anything ,again I am not sure safestrap is functioning on latest firmware .. And there hasn't been enough time for any development because of the recent rooting capabilities.
Alright, so it sounds like this is what I should do then:
Get tablet
Root it (If I can't, then I stop here)
Install safestrap
Backup
Install the backup on romslot 1??
Make the modifications I want to romslot 1
Is that right?
Also let's assume I can't root it, I can still sideload most apps I want like Gmail, Youtube, etc? (Those aren't on the amazon app store correct?)
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Hobox10 said:
Alright, so it sounds like this is what I should do then:
Get tablet
Root it (If I can't, then I stop here)
Install safestrap
Backup
Install the backup on romslot 1??
Make the modifications I want to romslot 1
Is that right?
Also let's assume I can't root it, I can still sideload most apps I want like Gmail, Youtube, etc? (Those aren't on the amazon app store correct?)
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Yeah I would say you just about got the idea .... If it is a brand-new unit you have a possibility that it will be on the old firmware still ... That is why they need to bypass activation skip set up . And check firmware before you hook it to any active Wi-Fi service .. And even if it does or is already updated there is now root available for the latest firmware ... It's just a question whether or not we can get anything else to work along with the latest firmware ... I would be advised if you attempt to run the OTA blocker which comes in the HDX utility you may have Wi-Fi glitches and reboots .... But like I said those bugs need to be checked for and follow through and repaired in their associated threads ... Not a new thread that only plugs up our forums but puts the helpful threads on the next page where cannot find them ... Remember there are multiple pages each forum section and some of the helpful threads have been buried on the next page due to people starting new threads with the same questions or problem... That have been resolved already... Remember reading is more informative than typing . And remember if anybody here is giving you their personal time to answer your questions and respond to your post it is courtesy here to hit the thanks button in the left lower corner of the post.End rant. thx
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