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so... i work for tmobile at an authorized dealer. n the other day i buy a samsung vibrant from some guy for $40. the thing is... i guess be found the phone or something bc it had wavesecure n is locked. so i bought a paperweight.. is there any wayto remove wavesecure n be able to use this amazing phone..? will rooting help..?
maybe you should just return the phone to its rightful owner and tell them you paid a crack head 40$ for it and see if they give you your money back.
I know, I know, who would return $500 if they found it right? Wow, Maybe you should keep in mind that they can gps track the phone with wavesecure, and locate you. They can turn it on remotely, then when they say the phone is stolen, and possession is 9/10's of the law..........
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maybe you should just return the phone to its rightful owner and tell them you paid a crack head 40$ for it and see if they give you your money back.
I know, I know, who would return $500 if they found it right? Wow, Maybe you should keep in mind that they can gps track the phone with wavesecure, and locate you. They can turn it on remotely, then when they say the phone is stolen, and possession is 9/10's of the law..........
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Lol.
Buying someone's stolen phone, wtf is your problem? It's disturbing that you work at a tmobile store (assuming you're being truthful). How stupid are you?
damn! what did the guy actually walk into your "tmobile" store and really sell you the phone right there flat out? wow. i guess stupid is AS stupid does
I think that was also dumb but there's still a way to wipe the phone. Just boot into recovery and wipe the phone or install a stock ron.
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And let me guess..you're gonna sell it off to a customer with a contact and tell them it's brand new right?
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I think that was also dumb but there's still a way to wipe the phone. Just boot into recovery and wipe the phone or install a stock ron.
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I don't know if this guy is legit or not but I hate to see guys like this helped. The phone is more than likely stolen & could be yours or mine w/ personal & or business texts, emails, & pictures. Maybe it isn't stolen but I doubt an "Authorized Dealer" would (a.) buy a 1 week old phone for $40 (b.) Buy it before checking to see if it worked (c.)Would have no other escalation option other than XDA.
If I'm wrong fugg him and he should search a little, then ask for help. If I'm right well just plain old fugg him maybe he can steal the directions with the phone next time.
yeah an even better way to introduce yourself to the community... did you make this acct just to ask that question? so you dont have to look like a douche on your real name? Call customer care and see what they say you should do...
You knowingly purchased a stolen phone? Not to mention its $500. Depending on your state you could be looking at some jail time. The right thing to do is try and look up the rightful owner of the phone and return it to them. And the $40 is lost due to your own stupidity.
@youneek Why would you help a person who obviously purchased a stolen phone?
I hope you work under some guy cause you should be fired. and on wavesecure there should be the owners number on it. CALL HIM UP foo and return his phone.
I really hope the phone isn't rooted already and I also hope this guy can't figure out how to wipe the phone.........really I hope no one here helps this guy steal a phone!
A moderator should get his IP and hand it over to the cops...
Ugh... it's not hard to get around but dude, you probably bought a stolen phone. Why not call TMO and give them IMEI and let them help you track down the rightful owner? If you are indeed a TMO authorized reseller they shouldn't have a problem helping you do that. Call it your good deed for the day.
The only good to come from this thread is me realizing that I don't have a blackberry anymore and so need something like wavesecure, which apparently works in case some dumb piece of !&$# steals my phone. Hopefully no smart piece of !&$# ever steals it lol.
Shame on you, for purchasing a stolen phone. Hopeully,the owner will manage to get a lock in on your location and track you down.
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Shame on you, for purchasing a stolen phone. Hopeully,the owner will manage to get a lock in on your location and track you down.
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First of all to the op, shame on you fit wanting to do this and learn to spell bypass before wanting to do illegal things.
Second, how is he gonna get a lock with our messed up gps :s
Edited: damn swype
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First of all to the op, shane on you fit wanting to do this and learn to spell bypass before wanting to do illegal things.
Second, how is he gonna get a lock with our messed up gps :s
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You spelled shame wrong in the same sentence telling him to learn to spell.. and typoed for... Proofreading is better than swyping...
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Umm, am I the only one seeing that this post is 3 weeks old. It was probably posted to drum up business for wavesecure, and it was revived by someone with wavesecure in his sig. Maybe I'm too cynical for my own good but..
Lol who would sell a $500 phone for $40? I really hope wavesecure works and you cannot figure out how to get around it.
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Lol who would sell a $500 phone for $40? I really hope wavesecure works and you cannot figure out how to get around it.
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a person that wants some crack hahah
I'm going to post this here because this is essentially where it all started, so I figure it's fitting.
This is basically an "Ending" to everything that happened on this thread Public Warning, Jaywan is Untrustworthy which is still up, but currently locked. I decided not to ask to have it opened again because I didn't want the chance for anything to be changed in that thread. Things got interesting at Page 30, and then started getting odd around the end. (Panda lol's)
In that thread I explained how my friend, and later 2 other people came forward stating that a phone being sold by a dev here was not shipped, and all communications stopped as soon as he received the money from each person. His explanation was that he went on vacation and left the shipping up to someone else. Page 28 he made an appearance, but, in my opinion, handled the comments from everyone else very poorly. by making threats of lawsuit, Tasteless jabs at the situation, and even an admission of insurance fraud
So, that is a recap of that thread... Oh, and did I mention Polar bears?
Here is how it all ended. Rugedraw was the only one that opted to go through with the purchase of "one" of the 3 he said he was selling. This is the message Rugedraw sent me on it's arrival "Hey, man.....I received the package today. The phone is as described. Boots up fine and has a 2.3.5-based Sense 3.5 rom on it. It even came included with an OEM HTC soft rubber case. I called Sprint and verified that the ESN is clean and the phone can be activated.
I have to say: I am 100% satisfied with the phone.
Who would of thought that last week, huh?"
So, he got what he paid for. But after everything, my friend and Faugnom1 weren't interested in possibly getting jerked around anymore and simply opted to have their money returned. Which Jaywan said in the thread he would do.
Paypal was never contacted by him on neither case. On Dallas's case, he had until Nov. 8th to respond or Paypal would rule in Dallas's favor. Which they did, He has had his money returned BY Paypal. faugnom1's case required a response on the 10th. This is what faugnom1 sent me:
faugnom1:"He said he would pay me by today, the same day my paypal thing is up. So if I dont hear from him in a few hours ill finalize the case.
Me:Did you just go thru withthe PayPal dispute?
faugnom1:Yeah never heard from him again after that one day. Paypal ruled in my favor.
So, Paypal disputed in both Dallas's and faugnom1's favor and they were both repaid.
on a personal note:Thank you to the community, the support was tremendous and I tried not to make it a witch hunt, and I know some Mods look down on this type of posting, but I felt it was being ignored and the post did bring 2 more people in who had the exact same thing happen. If everything is quietly handled, it allows the person to do it again, and then after that, maybe getting banned. If it's brought into the light I believe it serves the community better. If this happened to me, I went on vacation and left it all up to someone, I would feel horrible and give out as much info as possible. I don't want people to think I'm dishonest went I am not. It's not a matter of "IDGAF!!" it's a matter of "that's not who I am and I'll clear my name".
I'm baffled on how his account hasn't been banned (disabled and reenabled 2 times though). While, sure, this may have been all some big misunderstanding by some miracle of coincidences. Other members have been perma-banned for less. He made threats in a thread that was deleted by mods, made light of the situations, and was very combative and offered no forward explanation to anyone involved, only stating "if they want an explanation they can PM me" for someone who took 3 peoples money and then lost all contact with them, coming back with that attitude is shocking to say the least.
Thanks for filling us in.
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Glad peeps got their cash back and the one dude got a phone. Shady situation the whole way around.
I also want to thank everyone for their support. It's nice to know they're are good people on here since I am relatively new.
Thanks again
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Thanks for filling us in.
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And thanks for all the freaking lulz that were had (so strangely, based on the subject matter) by all.
Locked or not, that was an absolute XDA classic.
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And thanks for all the freaking lulz that were had (so strangely, based on the subject matter) by all.
Locked or not, that was an absolute XDA classic.
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Agreed.
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That was an epic thread Felacio. Even though it was a serios matter.... I had a lot of lols (polarbear .. thanks Sarge ).
Thanks for filling us in buddy!
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Great to hear things got settled finally. And yes, like everyone else said, that thread was the bomb.
Thanks for filling everyone in. I'm glad the one guy got a phone and the other two got their money back. Hopefully your friend doesn't think badly of the community now.
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Thanks for filling everyone in. I'm glad the one guy got a phone and the other two got their money back. Hopefully your friend doesn't think badly of the community now.
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I don't think he does. I told him about the thread and how crazy it got with support and ****. He got that it was just the one guy who was being shady.
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I don't think he does. I told him about the thread and how crazy it got with support and ****. He got that it was just the one guy who was being shady.
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Because Jaywan's account is still NOT BANNED, I'm PM'd a MOD to see if he can take care of it (ie perma banning that fool)
I believe the mods have better things to do than permaban his retarded ass. Like banning people for posting bad pictures or threating banning for using bad language or for flaming or arguing. Cause that's much worse than some dip**** that steals peoples money and shows how much of a douche he is.
Seeing as his account still isn't banned, it's safe to say that the moderators don't care. If they would at least stay out of the MP altogether, I wouldn't mind so much. It's the fact that they pick and choose when and how they will participate that bothers me.
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Seeing as his account still isn't banned, it's safe to say that the moderators don't care. If they would at least stay out of the MP altogether, I wouldn't mind so much. It's the fact that they pick and choose when and how they will participate that bothers me.
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I'm noticing that.
Tell a mod to "**** Off" = Perma Ban.
Steal money/commit fraud on members = Welcome back.
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Seeing as his account still isn't banned, it's safe to say that the moderators don't care. If they would at least stay out of the MP altogether, I wouldn't mind so much. It's the fact that they pick and choose when and how they will participate that bothers me.
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Maybe not banned... but something has happened to him since his last post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19052374#post19052374 was over 2 weeks ago. Maybe someone made good on their threat?
Mike
I noticed in the Wanting to Sell forum there is a way to leave feedback on a user. Felacio, you should leave some negative feedback on him so he doesn't try this stuff in the future.
Good to see everything got resolved man, that old thread was epic! Bear **** punch ftw!
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I had my phone for a lil over a month . its was in perfect condition i had it in a case with a screen protector since i day i got it. then i lost it . i will admit i was a lil drunk when i lost it and for the life of me couldnt find it. So I reported it lost and my insurance replaced it. Well last night my girlfriend comes over and tell me look what i found in back of the couch. So now I have 2 Notes . I want to know it the Note I lost is still good will it work? can i sell it and not get introuble. I know what the right thing to do is. I just want to know if there are any other options.
Unlock the IME# and see if it'll take a different SIM card. If so, then just sell it as an unlocked note. Should bring you decent cash.
On second thought... don't. Um... it's rubbish, just mail it to me. I'll um... take... care... of it.
Unlock it and sell it.
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Fk it, call customer service, tell them the situation. No harm in it?
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Be Honest...return it....you will feel better (m 0.2)
OP next please post with a poll so people can vote.
Im kinda new how do i put a poll on this thread
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How do I make it a poll. That would be cool.
Thanks for the tip. I'll do the same. Lol
you have seen the articles about the carriers getting together to track, lost, and stolen phones, right? The IME number is like a fingerprint. You use that one, or sell it, and they will find out, and probably find you. Be smart, and tell your insurance, or be stupid, and get nailed for fraud.
Sell it for a quick 500 have the phones lost or stolen will take any aim card trust. I i have connected phones I found with no problem just called at& the and told them I purchased on ebay and they got it going
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you have seen the articles about the carriers getting together to track, lost, and stolen phones, right? The IME number is like a fingerprint. You use that one, or sell it, and they will find out, and probably find you. Be smart, and tell your insurance, or be stupid, and get nailed for fraud.
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That's paranoid. If they do find it, all they can do is track it to the person using it. Just sell it on craigslist at a random public meeting place and don't tell the buyer any personal info.
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I had my phone for a lil over a month . its was in perfect condition i had it in a case with a screen protector since i day i got it. then i lost it . i will admit i was a lil drunk when i lost it and for the life of me couldnt find it. So I reported it lost and my insurance replaced it. Well last night my girlfriend comes over and tell me look what i found in back of the couch. So now I have 2 Notes . I want to know it the Note I lost is still good will it work? can i sell it and not get introuble. I know what the right thing to do is. I just want to know if there are any other options.
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You have 2 threads open about the same subjects:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598749
What gives man?
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You have 2 threads open about the same subjects:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598749
What gives man?
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Sorry . I made this thread and then someone said i should made a poll so i made another . this is the first thread i ever made and i thought i could delet this one . but i guess i couldnt. i wont do it again
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Sorry . I made this thread and then someone said i should made a poll so i made another . this is the first thread i ever made and i thought i could delet this one . but i guess i couldnt. i wont do it again
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Perhaps you were again......lil drunk?
what exactly is "unlocked"?
thought you could throw any sim in the phone and it work
when you report lost/stolen they block imei #'s or something?
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what exactly is "unlocked"?
thought you could throw any sim in the phone and it work
when you report lost/stolen they block imei #'s or something?
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Unlocked means you can use any sim card. AT&T does not block the IMEI# for whatever reason. I was reading a article about [email protected] being investigated for activating phone that have been reported stolen. I have had phones that i bought for really cheap from people who where kinda shady and im sure they where stolen and t-mobile & AT&T hooked them up with no questions asked.
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By the terms of the insurance you are supposed to send it back to them. anything else if f faud and will not be dicussed here
not looking for a fight but wow there are some dishonest d*****bags on xda...
the easy way out is why the world is in the mess it is in...
Hi I purchsed a galaxy note from ebay and the screen is dead on it. The phone has warranty on it. I bought the device from the seller and he told he has purchased this device in June 2012. Since I purchased this device, can I call samsung service and say the screen is dead. No water damage or flash. It has stock ROM. I am thinking this is a mother board issue. Will I be able to say this device is owned by me and get a free replacement?Do I need to produce the bill or any other information?Will samsung ask any other information?
Just call Samsung and tell them you are the second owner. The warranty is on the phone, not the owner.
Please don't post anything else on xda about this if you bought the phone with the goal of tricking Samsung (fraud).
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Just call Samsung and tell them you are the second owner. The warranty is on the phone, not the owner.
Please don't post anything else on xda about this if you bought the phone with the goal of tricking Samsung (fraud).
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I don't want to do any fraud. But want to know if samsung asks for any sales receipt or comparable proof of sale showing the original date of purchase.
I think you're pretty safe claiming the warranty, because this model isn't a year old yet. Just call Samsung repair center. You can google that. Several members have said it was quick and painless.
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Just call Samsung and tell them you are the second owner. The warranty is on the phone, not the owner.
XDA is no longer worth my time.
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Where the hell do you see anything about him trying to defraud anyone. Pull in the reins there cowboy!
I think the moderators can do a fine job of policing without you calling people criminals.
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I don't see where rangercaptain called anybody a criminal. His post was helpful and polite with good advice, unlike your post.
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Where the hell do you see anything about him trying to defraud anyone. Pull in the reins there cowboy!
I think the moderators can do a fine job of policing without you calling people criminals.
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I can see where it might sound like he was accusing people of fraud, but
to me I think his point is valid in that he was being helpful but making sure everything was on the up and up. I did read the OP in such a way that it sounds like it was purchased knowing the screen was bad because if I had got a note with a dead screen from eBay, assuming it was unknown to me when I purchased it, I'd probably take it up with the seller. But if the OP bought it full well knowing the screen was bad in the hopes in getting Samsung to fix it, it could seem a little fishy. Just my take on it.
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I don't see where rangercaptain called anybody a criminal. His post was helpful and polite with good advice, unlike your post.
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Agreed, ranger did what most of us would have done.
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TimOster said:
Where the hell do you see anything about him trying to defraud anyone. Pull in the reins there cowboy!
I think the moderators can do a fine job of policing without you calling people criminals.
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Wow. I've seen some people go off half cocked before, but you need to get a grip. You are so off base with your accusation about what Ranger said that it is laughable. Take a look at all of this posts, and I mean all of them. He is uniformly polite and helpful and he has orders of magnitude more posts than you do to demonstrate his helpfulness.
I would suggest that you rein it in cowboy and perhaps drink less coffee or whatever stimulant you drank before posting.
The OP PM'd me for more discussion, so I'm sure I didn't offend him.
Good work ranger ...as always...g
now the Note won't even turn on or go into download mode or do anything at all. I made a total noobie mistake and now the Note is bricked. I guess there's a first time for everything, never bricked a phone before in my life. I did some search and I hear there's a thingamajiggie called "Samsung debrick jig?" I guess I need to try it, got nothing to lose at this point. Any suggestions?:crying::crying:
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now the Note won't even turn on or go into download mode or do anything at all. I made a total noobie mistake and now the Note is bricked. I guess there's a first time for everything, never bricked a phone before in my life. I did some search and I hear there's a thingamajiggie called "Samsung debrick jig?" I guess I need to try it, got nothing to lose at this point. Any suggestions?:crying::crying:
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If your under warranty you could get ahold of Samsung and see about sending it in for repair. Turn around time is roughly 3 weeks. I doubt that a "jig" is going to work (from my previous experience.) You could send it out to get it JTAG repaired. Which is more probably what your thinking of. Either way your looking at between a couple days to a couple weeks to get it fixed.
If your sending it in to Samsung, you could tell them that you were installing an app, and then the phone turned off and wouldn't turn on or anything.
You need to pay up for the mistake and get jtag. It's going to cost you about 50 bucks. Sending it to Samsung is considered fraud since this is not a warranty issue but user error
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You need to pay up for the mistake and get jtag. It's going to cost you about 50 bucks. Sending it to Samsung is considered fraud since this is not a warranty issue but user error
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Agreed. And returning it for warranty should not even be suggested here on xda. Once rooted the warranty is void.
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www.mobiletechvideos.com website will be your solution. And fifty dollars.
I guess you ignored my advice to educate yourself. You're getting off cheap. Slow down.
thanks guys, I've ordered a repair service with Josh Groce at MTV as mentioned in posts above, paid $50 through Google Wallet (you can also pay through Paypal but they are evil), now I just need to find a postal office near me.
Just to make it clear, I never said I was going to return it to Samsung for warranty repair. I didn't know Sammy offered a 2-year warranty on their consumer mobile products, you learn new things everyday especially on XDA!!! (sarcasm)
It shows there are two kinds of people here: one group wants to really help people in need to the greatest extent including legal and possibly illegal means, the other group just wants to sit on their asses and go "I told you so, you should be more careful and do research first"
I did my basic research, including asking newb questions on xda. Based on what you guys said, I bought an i717 instead of the t-mobile version. Because I was carrying out a research, I had dozens of tabs on open on Firefox, and that's a contributing factor as to why I mistakenly flashed an international kernel on my at&t note.
Before you jump in, fingers waggin, saying useless things like "do search," please realize that an older device like the original note can have a long and sordid history of development. I was overwhelmed by the variety of "guides" and "howtos" and questions and answers when I first started reading about the Samsung Galaxy Note. Please be kind to semi-newbs like me, we are the silent majority here. (ranting)
One more rant before I go back to sleep (it's 6:25am here in rainy Southern California),
kernel developers should NOT be allowed to name their kernels "UNIVERSAL" I was suckered in to flash a "UNIVERSAL" kernel on my ATT Note I717. That UNIVERSAL kernel was only for International Note N7000.
I know, I should've known better. Well, a lesson learned, and as someone said above, it only cost $50.
If you are referring to me in your rant, I never even referred to you in my post. I pointed out that the posted suggestion above to return to Samsung for warranty was not only fraud .. But also against xda rules to be talking about. As for the post I agreed with ... If you've been reading around here lately you know there has been a rash of "help I've bricked my phone"threads lately. Some were due to a bad link to a rom outside xda. For some reason ... a lot of users here think that Samsung should replace under warranty for their mistakes. It's not the case. Simple fact is ... once you root the phone you have no warranty. That said, I believe that there is a grey area ... a know hardware failure ..I think it is fine to revert to stock to warranty.
I'm glad you've worked you issue out and wish you luck in the future. But instead of going on a rant to people who you may need help from in the future ... ... Just saying .. don't burn any bridges.
Have a good weekend
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In rereading ... I really don't think anyone was that harsh. Some of these have gotten quite ugly.
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Allright, got some needed sleep, got up and went to the post office to mail off my bricked Note to [email protected] in Texas. Priority mail to Texas from Southern Cal cost about $6 plus insurance cost $4, so all told about U$10 to mail my Note (sans batt, back cover, stylus, sim card and sdcard). According to the MobileTechVideo site, it will take about 4 business for Josh to repair it. So I'm looking at about 2 weeks before I can get mine back. Kinda wishing that I had sprung for express service for another $15-20.
I'm now regretting the rants I spewed out earlier. However, I believe I made a couple of valid observations. I am grateful to those who pointed out the jtag repair, specifically sending it for repair to mobiletechvideo. I know I can attempt the repair myself but for $50 it's well worth it for me to let a seasoned pro handle it.
One of my pet peeves is the "I am holier than you" attitude, you know the kind who goes around saying "I told you to research, make a backup nandroid, do md5 hash check on ALL your downloads, etc..." You know what, things have happened and now you're holding a brick in your hand due to whatever you did. No sense in kicking a man when he's down. How can you call it a help? And to those of you who clicked on the Thanks button to these kind of people, you know who you are, Fie on You!!!
To Bubbajoe,
Cool, I didn't mean to refer you or anyone else in my regrettable rants in my previous posts. I thought I needed to clarify that I never thought sending my bricked note to Samsung for warranty repair was an option. Thanks for pointing out that it would've constituted a fraud, had I done it. Having said that, now that the cat is out of the bag, I now know I have an option. I am sure other people who read this thread have now seen the option of sending it back to Samsung for repair under warranty. I don't want to judge people, what they do with their stuff is their private matter, I can only hope that you would do the right thing. I believe in karma, what goes around, comes around. If you gloat over other people's misfortune, your turn will come.
It seemed harsh to me. I was down and instead of helping me get up, some people were taunting and kicking me: "I told you so," "you didn't take my advice," "why didn't you read", etc, etc, etc... Do you call these advice "help" that deserved to be thanked???
From just reading the title your gonna need jtag. Its like $50-$60
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Allright, got some needed sleep, got up and went to the post office to mail off my bricked Note to [email protected] in Texas. Priority mail to Texas from Southern Cal cost about $6 plus insurance cost $4, so all told about U$10 to mail my Note (sans batt, back cover, stylus, sim card and sdcard). According to the MobileTechVideo site, it will take about 4 business for Josh to repair it. So I'm looking at about 2 weeks before I can get mine back. Kinda wishing that I had sprung for express service for another $15-20.
I'm now regretting the rants I spewed out earlier. However, I believe I made a couple of valid observations. I am grateful to those who pointed out the jtag repair, specifically sending it for repair to mobiletechvideo. I know I can attempt the repair myself but for $50 it's well worth it for me to let a seasoned pro handle it.
One of my pet peeves is the "I am holier than you" attitude, you know the kind who goes around saying "I told you to research, make a backup nandroid, do md5 hash check on ALL your downloads, etc..." You know what, things have happened and now you're holding a brick in your hand due to whatever you did. No sense in kicking a man when he's down. How can you call it a help? And to those of you who clicked on the Thanks button to these kind of people, you know who you are, Fie on You!!!
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Sir if your rant was directed at me I never said you were implying you were going to send it to samsung. I was only pointing out that that advice that someone else mentioned was not a good idea.
I am glad that you got in touch with mobiletechvideos to get it repaired. He has helped many people out with hard bricks around here. As for doing the repair yourself you need a riff box to do jtag and the cost of that is a lot more than what you ended up paying for Josh to do the service.
Hope to see you back up in running around here soon.
Bubbajoe40356 said:
Agreed. And returning it for warranty should not even be suggested here on xda. Once rooted the warranty is void.
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That statement bothers me considering they posted an article regarding rooting in July.
http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-tv-2/your-warranty-is-not-void-xda-tv/
You saying they should make a retraction?
He flashed a kernel for a completely different phone. You don't need root privileges to do that. So, no, this doesn't contradict the xda position.
Buy a new gasoline fueled car, then go and put diesel fuel in it and destroy the engine. No dealer will cover that error under a warranty. You pay for your mistake and learn to double check next time.
Why is this thread still running? The op has his issue handled. Now it's just turning into a debate thread.
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MoJoe277 said:
Why is this thread still running? The op has his issue handled. Now it's just turning into a debate thread.
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That's debatable
We've never had a debate thread.
Yeh....
We certainly don't need another heated thread.
Losing a great developer this week should be enough anger to tide us over don't you think ?
OP ....we have great people here, always doing their best to give back.
And once again, they "ALL" did ....IMHO ....
Bricking sucks, but thank goodness we have an out, unlike the old days where a guy just throws the phone in the trash and starts over.
Those guys down south do a fantastic job keeping us fixed up and going again.
It'll come back running like new...
Happy flashing ....g
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rangercaptain said:
We've never had a debate thread.
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And if we did, we'd likely never get to have one again ....LOL ...g
Shirokishi said:
That statement bothers me considering they posted an article regarding rooting in July.
http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-tv-2/your-warranty-is-not-void-xda-tv/
You saying they should make a retraction?
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While I highly respect Adam's opinion .. If you look at the attached post, you can see the statement copied directly from the Samsung website. Adam may be right ... Maybe not... But since it's Samsung we would be dealing with .. I would say the statement I made holds true. I'm not willing to fight my way to the supreme court to find out. If you are .. Let me know how it turns out. Also if you can gain root privileges without modifying or altering the electric circuitry .. Let me know that as well. Here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36727175
As far as xda .. If the official opinion is that rooting doesn't void the warranty .. I have to wonder ... If we do have a rooted user .. Say with a hardware issue that wants to claim warranty .. why are we not seeing everyone post that it's no problem .. Just send it back rooted. We see responses on how to unroot to claim warranty. Why bother? Why aren't the mods closing these threads stating that the unrooting is not needed? Additionally if I'm denied warranty, I'd venture to say that xda would not replace my phone or help me hire an attorney to fright Samsung.
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Mods, please lock this thread, close it, or do whatever you have to do to stop people from posting to it anymore. It has degenerated into something that's so far removed from the original intent of the OP, namely me. The issue has been handled. No more replies should be accepted. Thank you!