I read about the Galaxy S3s randomly dying, and it supposedly has to do with the RAM giving out. Is this the same RAM found in the Note II? Could we end up seeing the same problem?
My phone has never died or froze. Apps have froze though.
could be the phone itself. I never had any problems with my s3 nor note 2. both stock rooted.
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Sounds like a false rumor started by an iTroll. My 2010 original Galaxy S still works fine.
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Sounds like a false rumor started by an iTroll. My 2010 original Galaxy S still works fine.
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Its not. Galaxy S3's are dying... not your original Galaxy S.... they are different phones separated by 2 generations. The fact that your S still works fine has nothing to do with the S3's current problems. I've heard about it but I'm not sure if its the US carrier versions or the international ones... the only way I see it effecting us is if it the Exynos SoC S3's are the ones that are dying... they are relatively similar to our phones.
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Its not. Galaxy S3's are dying... not your original Galaxy S.... they are different phones separated by 2 generations. The fact that your S still works fine has nothing to do with the S3's current problems. I've heard about it but I'm not sure if its the US carrier versions or the international ones... the only way I see it effecting us is if it the Exynos SoC S3's are the ones that are dying... they are relatively similar to our phones.
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They ARE our phones. It's the display and digitizer that's different but the SoC is the same. 4412.
This is disconcerting. I hadn't read about this but I was disgusted with the Galaxy S3 ever since I found out it had a Pentile screen back in May. I stopped caring for it at that point altogether. Really hope this problem doesn't affect us on the Note 2...
Eh, does anyone have any actual threads about this?
Chances are its NVRAM, NOT RAM that is dying randomly on the GS3, and the SoC has nothing to do with that.
If its the mainboard, which Googling alludes to, that also does not relate to the Note 2 as we do not have the same mainboard as the international GS3.
SoC != mainboard.
adrynalyne said:
Eh, does anyone have any actual threads about this?
Chances are its NVRAM, NOT RAM that is dying randomly on the GS3, and the SoC has nothing to do with that.
If its the mainboard, which Googling alludes to, that also does not relate to the Note 2 as we do not have the same mainboard as the international GS3.
SoC != mainboard.
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NVRAM being say the 16gb internal memory?
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NVRAM being say the 16gb internal memory?
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Yeah.
I was just giving that as an example though. I don't know what component is failing, but doubt it is SoC related.
We have had as many as 4 s3's running on our accounts and they all worked flawlessly. I also thought the International S3 had the 4410 soc and the N2 has the 4412 soc.
There is no such thing as 4410.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos_(system_on_chip)
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Eh, does anyone have any actual threads about this?
Chances are its NVRAM, NOT RAM that is dying randomly on the GS3, and the SoC has nothing to do with that.
If its the mainboard, which Googling alludes to, that also does not relate to the Note 2 as we do not have the same mainboard as the international GS3.
SoC != mainboard.
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Yea there is a whole thread up on it in the sgs3 section. Seems like lots of peoples sgs3 has just died, like a brick.
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Nothing seems to point to it being ram though. I am wondering where that assertion came from.
I think its an issue with NAND. ill find the link and post it.
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http://www.telusmobility.com/en/AB/...index.shtml?INTCMP=HomeILCC3samsungGalaxySIIX
Which they're calling the "Samsung Galaxy S II X." Whatever that means, blame TELUS.
Anyways, while the specs cover general technical details and not exactly what processor or RAM or anything like that, it seems to have more than the current Galaxy S II in terms of processor speed (1.2 GHz to 1.5 GHz) and screen size (4.5").
However, some of the guys are codenaming it the Hercules, which makes me feel iffy about it, because apparently Samsung is having some sort of fiesta where they're classifying a number of different phones under the Galaxy S II name, even when some of the phones are much crappier.
So here is my question:
- Should I really upgrade to this phone from my current? (Motorola Atrix)
And because this is in General, and because I'm interested in the opinions:
- Discuss/speculate whether this phone would be better or worse than the S II original model, at least until we get official specs.
From what I remember its Qualcomm chipset, even though its higher clock, exynos by samsung is far better. It has larger screen, and Imo... the galaxy s2 4.3 inch screen is already big enough, I wouldnt buy it, and if I was given the chance to switch from s2 to hercules for free I wouldnt do it. + No custom roms for international S2 will work since hercules is completely different phone.
DJ Yoshiman said:
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/AB/...index.shtml?INTCMP=HomeILCC3samsungGalaxySIIX
Which they're calling the "Samsung Galaxy S II X." Whatever that means, blame TELUS.
Anyways, while the specs cover general technical details and not exactly what processor or RAM or anything like that, it seems to have more than the current Galaxy S II in terms of processor speed (1.2 GHz to 1.5 GHz) and screen size (4.5").
However, some of the guys are codenaming it the Hercules, which makes me feel iffy about it, because apparently Samsung is having some sort of fiesta where they're classifying a number of different phones under the Galaxy S II name, even when some of the phones are much crappier.
So here is my question:
- Should I really upgrade to this phone from my current? (Motorola Atrix)
And because this is in General, and because I'm interested in the opinions:
- Discuss/speculate whether this phone would be better or worse than the S II original model, at least until we get official specs.
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Specs are out, it's for sure the Qualcomm chipset, which is far inferior (really) to the Exynos in GPU performance, and at 1.5Ghz, it's going to be about the same CPU wise. It's really not that much different than the SoC in the Sensation, just clocked higher, and with a different modem.
The network performance remains to be seen, but on my 21Mbps-capable SGS2, on the Telus network in the GVA, I've never seen higher than 8k down, so I have to wonder if the 42Mbps dual connect modem on the SIIX will actually help...two connections to the network may not be such a big boost if it's still the same slow network.
And yes, it's going to be freaking huge. I came from an SGS1 (with a slight Atrix detour) and find the SGS2 is right at the margin of comfortable size. Not to mention the pixel density reduction, if that matters to you.
The biggest issue beyond being too big and too slow is that it's going to be an XDA development orphan as well.
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From what I remember its Qualcomm chipset, even though its higher clock, exynos by samsung is far better. It has larger screen, and Imo... the galaxy s2 4.3 inch screen is already big enough, I wouldnt buy it, and if I was given the chance to switch from s2 to hercules for free I wouldnt do it. + No custom roms for international S2 will work since hercules is completely different phone.
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Me in the original post said:
And because this is in General, and because I'm interested in the opinions:
- Discuss/speculate whether this phone would be better or worse than the S II original model, at least until we get official specs.
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So thank you for reading my post, moderator.
As for the rest of you, thanks for your insight - good to know these things. I think I'm hooped, since I don't have the money to buy out a SGS II. I suppose if I was rich, I'd get that one instead of upgrading to the Telus-brand model.
Change to Bell and you will get the International model.
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Change to Bell and you will get the International model.
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I'd love to, but I've already got an account on Bell with late charges (for my ex-girlfriend) who doesn't even use it any more - even if I paid off those charges, I apparently wouldn't be able to get an upgrade for another year to 2 years.
EDIT: Plus according to Bell's plans, I would get less than I have right now for about $15 more than what I'm paying with Telus.
Im so stuck right now. I dont want the S2 X but I dont want to switch carriers cause from the looks of it everyone else's plans suck compared to the one I have with Telus right now. I would go with the HTC Amaze but Telus doesnt get that for like another 3 weeks and I need a new phone cause im using a crappy LG Shine Plus with a shattered screen. Ahhh what to do...
A friend of mine got the hercules the other day and did a speed test on it and is getting 12-14 Mbps constantly. I have the bell version rooted and unlocked and can only get 5mbps on a good day. So the dual must be working for it... and for that speed boost I'm thinking it may be worth the upgrade! Any thoughts? I have tried flashing different modems to get higher speeds but Nada.
Does anyone think the AT&T Version of the Samsung Galaxy Note will have identical Screen Issues like the International Version of the Samsung Galaxy Note?
Who cares!! The brilliant thing is we will all have warranty so we dont need to worry. The reason i sold my n7000 is because i was paranoid about that happening and i wanted lte
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The nice thing about the AT&T version is that they're a lot easier to exchange. I would also imagine that they have ironed out the few bugs with the screen now that it's had it's trial run internationally. AT&T has a lengthy process to approve these new devices.
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Um...
Actually when the S2 was released in the US on T-Mobile there was an influx of complaints regarding the display. I don't know if our US Carriers will matter much in respect to this.
A FEW QUESTIONS,
IF I BOUGHT A GALAXY NOTE UNLOCKED AT&T VERSION FOR FULL PRICE (WHEN AVAILABLE) CONTRACT-FREE, WITHOUT BEING AN AT&T CUSTOMER, WILL I GET THE SAME KIND OF GENEROUS WARRANTY LIKE THOSE WHO BUY IT FOR $299 WITH A 2-YEAR CONTRACT?
HOW LONG WOULD THE WARRANTY BE?
AND DO I NEED TO DEAL WITH SAMSUNG DIRECTLY OR AT&T (EVEN IF I AM NOT AN AT&T CUSTOMER)?
KINDA STINKS THAT EXYNOS IS NOT ON THE AT&T-VARIANT. ARE THERE ANY DOWNSIDES TO THE SNAPDRAGON? BENCHMARKS?
YeA its mainly benchmarks imo i had the skyrocket then i sold it for the n7000 and i can tell yoj forst hand the skyrixket was a way way faster device. As for your other question i would say to be safe tell someone you know to call in and add your note to there at&t acount for your warranty. So buy outright and call it in and just say you wanna add the device on they will ask you for your imei and thats it your good
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I'm thinking about the AT&T version too, thanks!
However, I did read some where someone's Skyrocket managed to catch on fire while on board a flight. That's the only thing which worries me.
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YeA its mainly benchmarks imo i had the skyrocket then i sold it for the n7000 and i can tell yoj forst hand the skyrixket was a way way faster device. As for your other question i would say to be safe tell someone you know to call in and add your note to there at&t acount for your warranty. So buy outright and call it in and just say you wanna add the device on they will ask you for your imei and thats it your good
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But remember the Galaxy Note screen has 1280 x 800 resolution and the Skyrocket has 800 x 480. That is almost 3 times the pixels to process so not directly comparable. When I first got my Galaxy Note, I agree the skyrocket was faster in the screen transitions etc but after two more updates that is not the case any longer. I have the LA4 update which sped up the phone significantly. While I agree that benchmarks do not tell the entire story, the Galaxy Note routinely has among the highest benchmarks for any phone.
Based on the several videos I saw from CES on the ATT version, I think it will be fine since it will be optimized with a newer version of firmware before we get it
planoman said:
But remember the Galaxy Note screen has 1280 x 800 resolution and the Skyrocket has 800 x 480. That is almost 3 times the pixels to process so not directly comparable. While I agree that benchmarks do not tell the entire story, the Galaxy Note routinely has among the highest benchmarks for any phone. Based on the several videos I saw from CES on the ATT version, I think it will be fine.
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The note is not using the same exact s3 chip as the skyrocket. I was somewhat surprised to see antutu results for the att note were better than the stock skyrocket results. If that says anything, the note will be lightning fast after some roms and a nice kernel pop up
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The note is not using the same exact s3 chip as the skyrocket. I was somewhat surprised to see antutu results for the att note were better than the stock skyrocket results. If that says anything, the note will be lightning fast after some roms and a nice kernel pop up
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Edit: I have not had any screen issues with my GNote. (Knock wood) The screen is just beautiful!
Agreed. I was not comparing the skyrocket to the Note. I have seen one Antutu score on the ATT version so I think we need several more runs to get a good feel for where it will be. That said, I was impressed with 6000 as a score and am looking forward to getting one. Like you said that puts it up there sightly above the skyrocket and SGSII which are both very capable phones.
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A FEW QUESTIONS
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Why are you yelling? Is your caps lock stuck?
Nah...
LMAO, NO I'M NOT YELLING I've been so pissed off with my Galaxy Note. Getting my refund soon and hoping to purchase it from AT&T instead if I see good results with the display.
Thanks for asking btw, heehee.
There a lot of frustrated Note users out there. Hopefully the AT&T Note turns out clean.
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Why are you yelling? Is your caps lock stuck?
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Edit: I have not had any screen issues with my GNote. (Knock wood) The screen is just beautiful!
Agreed. I was not comparing the skyrocket to the Note. I have seen one Antutu score on the ATT version so I think we need several more runs to get a good feel for where it will be. That said, I was impressed with 6000 as a score and am looking forward to getting one. Like you said that puts it up there sightly above the skyrocket and SGSII which are both very capable phones.
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Once there is ics on this thing, itll be flying even faster! Hopefully the screen issues are fixed, because i also want the best smartphone screen lol. Just hope ics comes soon, the theming makes everything look so much better. Also, hopefully cm7/9 can be built, make life so much better ha. Esp screen wise too! Rise that dpi and tab mode you go.
All i gotta say is i can't wait. After my n7000 i came back to my ogs2 and damn this thing feels dinky lol the note is a man phone straight up
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If the device I had did have screen issues I could not tell. The screen was fantastic.
I had 3 skyrockets with lines. Our two white ones we kept have no lines but faint blobs that we rarely see
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(See what I did there.)
This post is an attempt to make sure I understand the difference between the "European" version of the Note (the N7000) and the "American" version of the Note (the i717). I've ordered an i717, which they tell me will arrive on the 7th, but I know there are two versions and they're not... quite... the same.
Based on what I've reasearched so far, these are the differences:
N7000
The N7000 has a dual core processor that is numerically slower (1.4ghz dual core vs 1.5ghz dual core for the i717) but actually clocks faster in tests. Owners of the N7000 claim performance is generally smoother, but...
... that may be because the N7000 also doesn't have bloatware.
The N7000 has also, at this point, been upgraded to Ice Cream Sandwich, unless...
... you're in the US, where everyone reports the ICS upgrade fails, because it's not being pushed through US networks. You have to apparently connect to a European network to get it...
... and flashing an ICS ROM is also problematic, because there's an incompatibility in the processor that causes a lot of roms to overwrite parts of the phone it shouldn't overwrite, resulting in a brick.
The N7000 is physically different from the i717 as well. It has a physical "home" button below the screen, which also doubles as the unlock button.
The N7000 also lacks an antenna that the i717 has, which allows the i717 to receive FM radio stations. [EDIT: Comment #2 has pointed out that this is wrong--the N7000 can receive FM, the i717 cannot.]
Finally, the N7000 has a slightly more powerful battery than the i717.
i717
The i717 has a numerically faster processor (1.5ghz dual core) but seems to clock in slower on tests. It is also loaded to the gills with a number of AT&T "enhancements" that may be degrading performance.
The main reason the i717 has a different processor is to support LTE. The i717 supports LTE on AT&T. (the N7000, which can work on AT&T If you put a SIM card in it, will not support LTE.) However, it does not appear to support anything more than 2G on TMobile without some serious configuration.
The i717 does not have the "home" button below the screen. The power button (on the right side of the phone) can be used to unlock the screen.
Some places I've browsed through claims the i717 camera is better than the N7000s. One side by side comparison even claimed that the i717 had continuous autofocus while the N7000 did not. I haven't seen this verified anywhere else.
The i717 doesn't appear to have the same problem with ROMs that the N7000 has. At least, there is no urgent notice in the General and Q&A forums for the i717 warning that a number of ICS ROMS will trigger a bug in the processor that will overwrite things it shouldn't and brick your phone, and I figure most of you guys would have noticed that.
The i717 will get ICS. At some point. As soon as Samsung finishes AT&Ting it. Nobody knows when, but someone said something about July. Once that happens, the source will be available, and ROMs can start incorporating fun things like processor overclocking and other kernel optimizations.
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Both the N7000 and the i717 are power hungry beasts, mostly because they have gorgeous, power-hungry, Super AMOLED screens that are freaking huge. Standby battery time for the Note is great. The problem is when you actually try to use it as a smartphone...
Thus, extended batteries become very attractive accessories, as long as you ignore that they are mostly ugly and incompatible with some of the really cool brushed metal cases I've seen pictures of in the forums. Apparently you can get an extended battery for $15, which I didn't discover until after I bought my Mugen. I'm paying an extra $85 for a kickstand. Still, it's a shiny kickstand.
The N7000 and the i717 have a counter that keeps track of how many times you flash your phone. The current working theory is this counter is used to determine if you're a dirty stinking hacker who has voided his or her warranty. To date I haven't seen any reports of people who have been refused support or had their warranty voided because of this thing, but it's there.
Both phones are described as "huge" by the press, but they're actually smaller than the cellphones we had back in the early 90s. The press is full of silly people.
Regardless of whether you buy an N7000 or an i717, someone at Gizmodo puts you on an enemies list.
That is, in summary, everything I've been able to find about both phones. Did I miss anything/get anything wrong?
You got one thing backwards. The I717 is the one that lacks the FM radio functionality, while the N7000 has it.
The processors are not just running at different clocks, they are totally different architectures. The N7000 has a dual core Exynos made internally by Samsung. It is paired with a beastly ARM Mali 400 GPU. To support LTE, the I717 has put in a dual core Qualcomm Snapdragon S3 , paired with a more pedestrian Adreno 220. While the N7000 processor and GPU are more advanced in theory, in real life, both phones are more than capable performers. The LTE network speeds of I717 however run circles around N7000, and the fallback HSPA+ speed is no slouch. It basically boils down to network speed versus raw CPU/GPU performance numbers. If I was you, I would choose the faster network, because the Galaxy S III and HTC One X already have eclipsed the SOC of N7000, which is just a Galaxy S II on the inside, and in a year or two, those numbers will also be beaten. The I717 LTE speed is still on par with the best phones out there, and will be so for years to come.
Battery life, screen quality, software, etc., are about the same. The bloatware in the I717 is not really a performance killer, and stripping it away only requires root and a little know how.
Thanks for the correction.
I don't think I'll have any problems with the i717, but I'm paying an extra $100 for speed I can't use. There's no LTE in Clarksburg, WV, and I expect I'll grow old and die before it ever gets here. For the most part I find 3G network speeds more than acceptable for browsing the internet and downloading the occasional podcast. I'm also a bit concerned about the amount of battery drain will be caused by the phone searching for LTE. When I was on Sprint my Evo would constantly try to create a 4g connection until I turned 4g off.
i own the n7000 model and just picked up the i717 today. Im very surprised at how responsive this phone is how cool it runs on stock GIngerbread v. The n7000
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No lte but u might may still get 3.5g. Its not the fastest. But still a lot faster then 2g and 3g
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Read the reviews of the I717. Most state that the battery life of the phone while on LTE radio is surprisingly good, and almost the same as the N7000. The Evo had a bug causing excessive battery drain. The I717 suffers from no such issues, either on or off LTE. The 2100 mAh battery is plenty big enough to go all day with normal usage pattern.
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ryan562 said:
i own the n7000 model and just picked up the i717 today. Im very surprised at how responsive this phone is how cool it runs on stock GIngerbread v. The n7000
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Flash ICS on it. I find it even better. I am on stock LE2 ROM with root and deleted bloat. Currently at 329 hours up time, and still no lag
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Flash ICS on it. I find it even better. I am on stock LE2 ROM with root and deleted bloat. Currently at 329 hours up time, and still no lag
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awesome thanks for the recommendation.
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Hello..
I have zeroed in on the Samsung Galaxy S2 SGH-i777 phone as my next upgrade and would like to get it off US Ebay. (Basically a mint pre owned piece.)
I am from India and hence i have few queries.
1) Is there any chance the Exynos chipset might not be present in any random Samsung Galaxy S2 SGH-i777 ?
I remember its counterpart phone in India also had an alternate version. Hence want to confirm.
2) What's the scenario regarding the service carrier maligning issue? I heard about it few weeks back.. no idea about current scene.
I am basically looking for the US counterpart of SAMSUNG I9100 GALAXY S II, which was released here in India.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3621&idPhone2=4130
Pls do excuse me if i missed out on threads regarding above posted question..
spacescreamer said:
Hello..
I have zeroed in on the Samsung Galaxy S2 SGH-i777 phone as my next upgrade and would like to get it off US Ebay. (Basically a mint pre owned piece.)
I am from India and hence i have few queries.
1) Is there any chance the Exynos chipset might not be present in any random Samsung Galaxy S2 SGH-i777 ?
I remember its counterpart phone in India also had an alternate version. Hence want to confirm.
2) What's the scenario regarding the service carrier maligning issue? I heard about it few weeks back.. no idea about current scene.
I am basically looking for the US counterpart of SAMSUNG I9100 GALAXY S II, which was released here in India.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3621&idPhone2=4130
Pls do excuse me if i missed out on threads regarding above posted question..
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I'm not sure why you want the us version of a phone when you're in India.
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Nick281051 said:
I'm not sure why you want the us version of a phone when you're in India.
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I prefer the i777's Design.
Nick281051 said:
I'm not sure why you want the us version of a phone when you're in India.
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Answer his question or don't respond.
1. If it doesn't have exynos chipset, then it's not an I777
2. Talk to your local carrier, we can't provide you this information
If you find out the other information and decide the I777 will in your area, I'd wait a few weeks. The used prices will probably go lower with the Nexus 4 release.
@jthatch12
Thing is, this phone was never released in my country. So i can only glean as much info possible via user response, regarding the gen scenario on the whole. Hence i asked
I ll try to seek the second query's response by more efficient / diligent searching.
Thanks for the part 1 of the reply.
@Sledutah
Yea, i plan to purchase ~next month. Hence getting all the info by that time.
Maybe the pricing will also come down by a bit. Let's see.
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@Sledutah
Yea, i plan to purchase ~next month. Hence getting all the info by that time.
Maybe the pricing will also come down by a bit. Let's see.
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If you're going to spend ~$250 for a phone, why not just spend a little bit more and get the state-of-the-art Nexus 4?
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mattdm said:
If you're going to spend ~$250 for a phone, why not just spend a little bit more and get the state-of-the-art Nexus 4?
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I honestly did gave it a serious thought.. but:
1) LG brand is holding me back.
2) Limited storage/No mem card slot (something which does irks me)
3) It ll be glass on both sides. More chances of the compulsion to use it in a case.
4) I am not too big a fan of massive screens.. (barely convinced myself to go wee bit beyond the 4inch real estate)
India uses GSM so it'll definitely work with your carrier, I'm from Kenya and I used the phone without any issues, only thing is when you do get the phone you'll have to downgrade it to Gingerbread in order for sim unlock tools downloadable from play store to actually work, as most that are sold are. Also AOSP is full of issues if you plan on flashing CM10/AOKP but Samsung ROMS should perform beautifully and with expected 4.1 its a good buy, though I sold mine for Nexus 4
spacescreamer said:
Hello..
I have zeroed in on the Samsung Galaxy S2 SGH-i777 phone as my next upgrade and would like to get it off US Ebay. (Basically a mint pre owned piece.)
I am from India and hence i have few queries.
1) Is there any chance the Exynos chipset might not be present in any random Samsung Galaxy S2 SGH-i777 ?
I remember its counterpart phone in India also had an alternate version. Hence want to confirm.
2) What's the scenario regarding the service carrier maligning issue? I heard about it few weeks back.. no idea about current scene.
I am basically looking for the US counterpart of SAMSUNG I9100 GALAXY S II, which was released here in India.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3621&idPhone2=4130
Pls do excuse me if i missed out on threads regarding above posted question..
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You already got many responses from others, I just chip in a bit.
1. If it's legitimated product made for AT&T, then it is, would be, have to be Exynos.
As for the counterfeit part? Seriously, nobody know. We just simply cannot check.
2. Depends on your end, if it has GSM network then it would work, however, depends on the frequency they operate, you might only get 3G speed and not take full advantage of the 4G (H+) one.
@votinh
err.. no counterfeiting thing.. i mentioned counterpart
Thank you for the other valuable info in your post.
We have two versions of S2 floating in India. One has the Exynos chipset, the other ( i9100G) seems to be having a slightly inferior SOC.
While purchasing here, one can be aware of the model no for both G as well as non-G with due diligence and adequate research regarding the stickers on the box mentioning the details. The G model does have a noticeably weaker GPU in the form of SGX 540.
I got concerned after hearing that the model i9100G does not have too much love from the development community simply because it is not available widely & in most territories (it probably is only available in asia pacific countries only)
To ask another query.. and this might be vague..
What's the future of the S2 phone.. both in terms of official and custom ROM releases..?
It surely has the firepower under the hood to go some decent distance i think.. but with all these quad core based phones now making an appearance.. will the official rom be made to order for advanced configurations..??
spacescreamer said:
@votinh
err.. no counterfeiting thing.. i mentioned counterpart
Thank you for the other valuable info in your post.
We have two versions of S2 floating in India. One has the Exynos chipset, the other ( i9100G) seems to be having a slightly inferior SOC.
While purchasing here, one can be aware of the model no for both G as well as non-G with due diligence and adequate research regarding the stickers on the box mentioning the details. The G model does have a noticeably weaker GPU in the form of SGX 540.
I got concerned after hearing that the model i9100G does not have too much love from the development community simply because it is not available widely & in most territories (it probably is only available in asia pacific countries only)
To ask another query.. and this might be vague..
What's the future of the S2 phone.. both in terms of official and custom ROM releases..?
It surely has the firepower under the hood to go some decent distance i think.. but with all these quad core based phones now making an appearance.. will the official rom be made to order for advanced configurations..??
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Seems to me, the S2 is on its way out, if it hasn't already been officially discontinued. If I were buying a new phone, I would get the most recent model possible, because the rate at which new models are introduced.
Also, what is your discomfort with LG?
Honestly the Nexus 4 is a scrub phone compared to the i777
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something worth taking note... is the i777 can take a serious beating. much more than any other phone i have come in contact with. it will scar and mar. the metal band will take on some serious gashes and the screen will stay unharmed. it is the only reason i still have this phone and have not upgraded.
that being said... if speed is what you want, buy something else. this is 2010 tech after all.
I had HTC Desire for nearly 3 years, and it is a great phone, but I think it is time to upgrade, because:
- it is annoyingly slow with my regular set of programs installed, even on fastest available roms
- it doesn't have kernel 3.0, and because of that JB roms have shortcomings
- a little bit too small screen for GPS navigation
- really crappy camera
- somewhat short battery life
Some time ago I had a chance to look at Galaxy S2 in person and it looked like a perfect phone (at least for 2 minutes I had it in my hands).
Somewhat bigger screen, more internal storage, kernel 3.0.
I use custom roms, so big development community is important for me. I have been spoiled by Desire as it (still) has a large one.
Galaxy S2 would cost me around 170-200 euro to get it.
Should I take that, or look for something else in this price range?
My requirements:
- larger screen (not necessarily much larger)
- android (duh)
- solid build quality
- large development community
- noticeably faster CPU than Desire (Dual+ core would come in handy)
- microUSB
- good/very good camera
- good battery life
- price up to 200 euro (used)
- would be nice if it had FM transmitter (not receiver) but it is not necessary
- it must by BLACK or therebout
No. Why would you buy a phone that's been out for two yrs ? Get an S3 or S4 if you want a Samsung phone.
Galaxy Nexus may fit your needs..
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MistahBungle said:
No. Why would you buy a phone that's been out for two yrs ? Get an S3 or S4 if you want a Samsung phone.
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Because I don't care how long the phone has been out, but how well it suits my needs.
Plus, S3 and S4 are surely more expensive.
Personally, between S2, S3 and S4, I would recommend the S3. (Although it wouldn't fit the budget, unless there are some offers!)
Mainly because it is relatively newer and you can expect new Android upgrades from Samsung (at least KLP) for it. Samsung has already announced that 4.2.2 will be the last update for S2, according to samfirmware. And with so many (mainly, codeworkx) developers not showing much love for Samsung devices of late, I am sure it would take that much longer to get custom ROMs updates.
If you do decide on S2, it is a really good device!! Great build, great design etc. But I suggest you buy the OMAP variants (i9100G), as it has better support from development community. Owing mainly to TI playing nice compared to Samsung (Exynos).
Several developers are not happy with Samsung's support for Exynos devices and Samsung's lack of support for the dev community of late. For me, this is a major concern.
Why are you advising the guy to get the g variant?.There was almost a riot in your country a year ago when suppliers were giving out g variant models instead of the plain gti9100 model.
If you want then buy a Nexus 7
Nexus has a huge development community and is also in ur price range
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arnabbiswasalsodeep said:
If you want then buy a Nexus 7
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Why would I buy a tablet when I need a phone?
Samsung Galaxy S2 is still a powerful device even beat some newest devices (of course not high-end ones) but it's still can go well with mid-range devices.
Get S2 or S4.....I (personally) don't like the S3.The big thing is,that S4 hasn't a big developent support,since it's a new phone.Galaxy S2 has still a big support...I still see new ROMs and updates every day or week.And it is fast,no matter what people say...get the setup as in my sig...my phone was never faster.
So S2 looks interesting, but this is what I have been told about regarding its screen:
I also considered s2 but there's one serious setback to it. Namely, the screen is amoled and without pentile matrix.
What's bad about it you ask? pixels that are frequently used lose color and items that you have on screen for most time are somewhat paler than the rest of the screen, and you can see their shadow for the whole time, ppl reported that with all amoled displays and non pentile of s2 is even more susceptible to that. That happens even to devices 3 months old, depending on how heavily they are used I guess. You can google it to see for yourself, just type galaxy s2 amoled burn in. There are also few good YouTube vids showing that. Items that you usually can see are burned in status bar, soft keys from your most used app, keyboard, alarm icon and "fully charged" sign across the screen as during night charging the phone lights up when battery is full and keeps the screen on until you turn it off or unplug it/on some ROMs at least, stock including/.
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Do you guys have any comments on that? Is it that bad and common as it sounds? On my 3 year old Desire I see nothing like it happening.
theunderling said:
Why are you advising the guy to get the g variant?
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Oh, if I wasn't clear: Right now I would prefer to use an S3. But if I had a fixed budget and decided on S2, I would by the G variant. -- This is what I meant.
Honestly, I thought those 'riots' were because Samsung decided to slip in the G variant very slyly. No intimation of any sort to the buyers.
I have read about the lower bechmarks on i9100G etc. Any other difference that goes against the i9100G? (Sorry that I am hijacking the thread, just wanted to know)
RAZR maxx
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impactor said:
Do you guys have any comments on that? Is it that bad and common as it sounds? On my 3 year old Desire I see nothing like it happening.
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I have been using my S2 for more than two years now. I haven't noticed this burn in. (And, hopefully I don't. )
I tried looking for it right now, and...nope, nothing like it.
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Oh, if I wasn't clear: Right now I would prefer to use an S3. But if I had a fixed budget and decided on S2, I would by the G variant. -- This is what I meant.
Honestly, I thought those 'riots' were because Samsung decided to slip in the G variant very slyly. No intimation of any sort to the buyers.
I have read about the lower bechmarks on i9100G etc. Any other difference that goes against the i9100G? (Sorry that I am hijacking the thread, just wanted to know)
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The g has a lot less development than the plain gti9100,unless something changed on here in the last 2 months.And the models are based on regions(supposedly).
Theres a wiki page that lists the models and explains a bit about them,so he can look at that and see what options are best for France.
I think the lte variant is the best,but maybe its for other regions of the world.
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The g has a lot less development than the plain gti9100,unless something changed on here in the last 2 months.
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Seeing that the G has a stable CM release and the default perpetually being restricted to only nightlies, I had assumed otherwise.
Thanks!!
Meh, I am stuck.
I read around here that s2 display is horrible when compared to s3.
s3 has even cheaper feel, and is 100-170e more expensive
Sensation is useless to me.
Price of S4 is absurd...
By the way, are there some roms for S2 that allow changing software DPI? I have seen ParanoidAndroid on Desire can do that, but apart from this ROM, I haven't seen it anywhere else.
impactor said:
Meh, I am stuck.
I read around here that s2 display is horrible when compared to s3.
s3 has even cheaper feel, and is 100-170e more expensive
Sensation is useless to me.
Price of S4 is absurd...
By the way, are there some roms for S2 that allow changing software DPI? I have seen ParanoidAndroid on Desire can do that, but apart from this ROM, I haven't seen it anywhere else.
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i prefer the s2 display to my brother's s3 and my friends' s4 and xperia z personally
as to dpi, yes: slim, and rootbox do, and others may that i don't know of
p.s. i love my s2, so fast, and battery lasts soooo long , however if you're paying more than 200 usd it's not worth it