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i have a valid question for you guys. every ice cream rom ive tried has given me significant lag/choppiness and heats up my rezound. now today i played with both a gnexus at verizon and a htc one x at at&t and it was smooth as butter. is our issues because of no ota or kernel source? just curious as to what you guys think?
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i have a valid question for you guys. every ice cream rom ive tried has given me significant lag/choppiness and heats up my rezound. now today i played with both a gnexus at verizon and a htc one x at at&t and it was smooth as butter. is our issues because of no ota or kernel source? just curious as to what you guys think?
thanks!
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Both I would take a very educated guess in saying. no OTA means it is a work in progress and no kernel source means that the kernels aren't really tweaked out for the ROMs they are running....
my guess is sense bogs us down a good bit. also ics is coded for the gnex.
Without kernel source, we're stuck with what the leak has. From what I've read, that is not good.
I'm sticking with GB until we have source...GB flies for me!
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my guess is sense bogs us down a good bit. also ics is coded for the gnex.
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Yeah, Sense 3.5/.6 are steaming piles of laggy crap, but 4.0 seems really nice.
I have official ics on my unrooted galaxy tab 2. It has the touchwiz overlay but is still superfast. I was worried too that ICS was slow until I got this. I think the omap processor is a better performer on average than a qualcomm too, but not by much.
If you are running the gb kernel and firmware it is hit or miss with ics roms for the rezound. GB will always be faster if running gb firmware and kernel. I hope that the ics kernel is fixed when we get the official ics update and that sense doesnt bog things down. We really need htc to release kernel source and firmware in order to have a solid base for ics roms imo. I love Rez Rom Sense 3.6 ICS though, runs pretty good even on old firmware.
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LunaticSerenade said:
I'm sticking with GB until we have source...GB flies for me!
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GB flies for me too, even running a sense ROM.
I always chuckle when people post how "slow and laggy" sense is.
I get absolutely zero lag running sense 3.5 and figure those posters are probably clueless on how to correctly set up their system.......
tekhna said:
Yeah, Sense 3.5/.6 are steaming piles of laggy crap, but 4.0 seems really nice.
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Actually for me all of the sense 4.0 ports were super laggy. I can say gb seems more fluid but the battery life still stinks on my rezound. That one x is really a nice device but im thinking this may be my last htc. I havent had good luck with the brand.
Thanks for the responses guys.
ICS doesn't lag for me ever, but I dig the Senseless roms for the looks, and indeed, Sense 4.0 isn't optimized for us yet.
jmorton10 said:
GB flies for me too, even running a sense ROM.
I always chuckle when people post how "slow and laggy" sense is.
I get absolutely zero lag running sense 3.5 and figure those posters are probably clueless on how to correctly set up their system.......
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when i went from a sense rom to an aosp rom on my inc2 i noticed a big difference in speed. sense definitely affects things.
ics runs great for me on 3.5/3.6 and on 4.0 its great as well... i have no problems at all
I don't get all these people who have all the battery and heating problems. I think it is user error. I have better battery and better signal since I upgraded to ICS CleanROM.
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I don't get all these people who have all the battery and heating problems. I think it is user error. I have better battery and better signal since I upgraded to ICS CleanROM.
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Agreed, if there were such a range in hardware that some overheated while others were great, I'd expect that HTC's quality control was so bad that half the units that were produced wouldn't even power up. Always get a kick out reading about someone who has warrantied a couple of phones then in the next breath says "I'm running "xyz" kernel and OC'd...
Anyway, would you mind sharing your setup Gray? It might help others to know what a working ICS setup is. What Kernel, Radios and other specifics are you running.
What I find is interesting is that with my first rezound I had a horrible experience when I flashed the ICS leak. Extreme overheating, even worse battery life, but it was nothing that I could have done. It was the radios on some hardware that cause this issue. I sent it back, got another, and reran the leak. Haven't looked back since. It's also worth noting that I have a way better experience with ICS then I did with GB. GB scrolling was always choppy and just overall sluggish. ICS fixed all that along with giving me a battery life ranging from 11-17 hours depending on usage.
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What I find is interesting is that with my first rezound I had a horrible experience when I flashed the ICS leak. Extreme overheating, even worse battery life, but it was nothing that I could have done. It was the radios on some hardware that cause this issue. I sent it back, got another, and reran the leak. Haven't looked back since. It's also worth noting that I have a way better experience with ICS then I did with GB. GB scrolling was always choppy and just overall sluggish. ICS fixed all that along with giving me a battery life ranging from 11-17 hours depending on usage.
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I also have a better user experience, as in runs faster, smoother, and less lag along with better battery life on ice cream sandwich than I did on gingerbread. I think a lot of it has to do with how it's set up and configured. And I understand that some people have genuine hardware problems but it seems that it's causing a lot of people to quickly attribute their issues to hardware and not spend the time to chase down the problem and solve it. Regardless another leaked kernel or an official OTA base will definitely be welcomed and help this beast run even better.
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Agreed, if there were such a range in hardware that some overheated while others were great, I'd expect that HTC's quality control was so bad that half the units that were produced wouldn't even power up. Always get a kick out reading about someone who has warrantied a couple of phones then in the next breath says "I'm running "xyz" kernel and OC'd...
Anyway, would you mind sharing your setup Gray? It might help others to know what a working ICS setup is. What Kernel, Radios and other specifics are you running.
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CleanROM Developer 1.2, overclocked 1.8ghz kernel, AmonRa recovery, new ICS radio, juopuntbear boot, S-Off.
Extremely smooth and no problems at all.
Ill put it in my sig too.
jmorton10 said:
GB flies for me too, even running a sense ROM.
I always chuckle when people post how "slow and laggy" sense is.
I get absolutely zero lag running sense 3.5 and figure those posters are probably clueless on how to correctly set up their system.......
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I don't get any "lag" persay with any Rom I've used. What drives me a little nuts is the stuttery and choppy scrolling in a LOT of apps I use daily. The text and the pictures chop, even though the scrolling motion is smooth. Facebook, zynga apps, internet (if its more than text) messaging app, contacts, reddit news... There are some that don't stutter though. Twicca, tapatalk, menu scrolling, root explorer...
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I don't get any "lag" persay with any Rom I've used. What drives me a little nuts is the stuttery and choppy scrolling in a LOT of apps I use daily. The text and the pictures chop, even though the scrolling motion is smooth. Facebook, zynga apps, internet (if its more than text) messaging app, contacts, reddit news... There are some that don't stutter though. Twicca, tapatalk, menu scrolling, root explorer...
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That annoyed me about GB (stock and CleanROM 1.7.5). Even on ICS, Facebook scrolling is choppy, unless you enable Force GPU rendering. Running ICS with Force GPU rendering is an incredibly smooth experience, and I haven't run into any bugs. I'm surprised it's not enabled by default in all ROMs.
I think that people having a better experience on a hacked(nicely mind you), sense 4.0 rom must have set up Gingerbread wrong. See how easy it is to make a statement like that. I have experienced both ics, and gb, and have always had a smoother experience on gb. I hated how ics scrolling in the browser, xda app, tapatalk, and others was jittery at best. I love some of the elements of ics, but the trade off was too much for me. My phone ran about 11 degrees different between ics, and gb. Also, if you go back to around Christmas, overheating was an issue then. On stock. So apparently, this phone can have heat issues. Don't get me wrong, I love this phone, and I appreciate all the work that goes into making roms. I have been following these developers for quite a while. They are all really good. We are blessed to have them.
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That annoyed me about GB (stock and CleanROM 1.7.5). Even on ICS, Facebook scrolling is choppy, unless you enable Force GPU rendering. Running ICS with Force GPU rendering is an incredibly smooth experience, and I haven't run into any bugs. I'm surprised it's not enabled by default in all ROMs.
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So it is the GPU that's the problem as I thought.... But thankfully it isnt because its not good enough. Lol. It's just because its more limited c
Looking for a good stable rom with no memory leaks or random slow downs. Naturally i would prefer it to be JB but i know thats unrealistic at this point.
So is there anything based on Samsungs ICS, that is very much like aosp?
features i am hooked on now: programmable hardware buttons, google now, JB style notifications (i know this is a long shot).
any suggestions?
Chameleon
jerseykat1 said:
Looking for a good stable rom with no memory leaks or random slow downs. Naturally i would prefer it to be JB but i know thats unrealistic at this point.
So is there anything based on Samsungs ICS, that is very much like aosp?
features i am hooked on now: programmable hardware buttons, google now, JB style notifications (i know this is a long shot).
any suggestions?
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Try chameleon v1.1 ROM. Search it in ROM list as I can't post link here due to new user restrictions.
jerseykat1 said:
Looking for a good stable rom with no memory leaks or random slow downs. Naturally i would prefer it to be JB but i know thats unrealistic at this point.
So is there anything based on Samsungs ICS, that is very much like aosp?
features i am hooked on now: programmable hardware buttons, google now, JB style notifications (i know this is a long shot).
any suggestions?
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There is NO stock based Rom that will those CM10 things you are talking about.
However, Chameleon ROM 1.2 has some Aosp apps, JB animations, and it's AOSP themed : forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1847600
Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII
What is overall the most stable rom that actually has up to date android features? I was reading the CM10 issues log and stuff like "can't receive calls when bluetooth is on" is just an instant turnoff. I know every custom ROM is going to have issues, but what is overall the best balance of modern and stable for the Droid X2?
I'd like at least 4.1, but I know the world isn't perfect.
Well since we are sadly on a locked bootloader it makes it difficult for us; The most stable roms are Gingerbread. CM7 is pretty good and is running android 2.3.6 i believe. Eclipse is pretty good and smooth but cm7 has overall more features. CM10 would probably more stable than cm9 but cm10 sadly gets some force closes(i never experienced this when i was using it )
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What is overall the most stable rom that actually has up to date android features? I was reading the CM10 issues log and stuff like "can't receive calls when bluetooth is on" is just an instant turnoff. I know every custom ROM is going to have issues, but what is overall the best balance of modern and stable for the Droid X2?
I'd like at least 4.1, but I know the world isn't perfect.
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4.1 is the furthest we have gotten. cm10 is 4.1 , cm9 is 4.0 . cm10 is WAY more stable than any ICS build we have. i use it as a daily, and if you dont use many apps, and can stand a bit less battery life, it is totally worth it.
it has curbed my want/need for a new phone.....or atleast until november!
MotM said:
What is overall the most stable rom that actually has up to date android features? I was reading the CM10 issues log and stuff like "can't receive calls when bluetooth is on" is just an instant turnoff. I know every custom ROM is going to have issues, but what is overall the best balance of modern and stable for the Droid X2?
I'd like at least 4.1, but I know the world isn't perfect.
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I started using MIUI last night is sorta like iOS and and it uses ICS framework havent had a fc or random reboot yet no missed calls to my knowledge
I used the CM10a3 port and my gmail app was WICKED unstable, a flick scroll would not FC it but it would just close. I LOVED google now but due to compatibility*? issues i could not update it with anything google released. I currently run eclipse, although older has been the most stable, battery efficient, and usable rom on my DX2.
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You know, with all the apps, launchers, keyboards, themes, etc., you can probably be pretty happy with a stable gingerbread ROM and make it look and feel like ICS or JB.
I'd run cm7 with holo launcher for that jb feel
Lorenzo VonMatterhorn said:
4.1 is the furthest we have gotten. cm10 is 4.1 , cm9 is 4.0 . cm10 is WAY more stable than any ICS build we have. i use it as a daily, and if you dont use many apps, and can stand a bit less battery life, it is totally worth it.
it has curbed my want/need for a new phone.....or atleast until november!
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What version of CM10 are you using? I'm debating if it is worth trying A3
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What version of CM10 are you using? I'm debating if it is worth trying A3
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at this point, i have been using cm9 for a few months due to the phone call issue present in cm10. whenever the screen turns off due to the proximity sensor ( holding it to your face) the call is lost and the phone freaks out. this is a phone. so that would not work for me. cm9 has better battery life, and a few more apps work with it. from what it seems, DZK has abandoned us. our only how on a better JB is g2yupie working out his 4.2, and it not having the same phone call issue. i say try out cm9. unless you dont make many calls. also, it doesnt do the proximity thing if you are plugged in. but any other time, under any other circumstances , it does. there is no work around.
Searched and I was surprised there was no main thread comparing and discussing the differences between Sense and AOSP roms like a lot of other device sub forums have. I've been running a Sense 5 rom since I got my DNA a few months ago but have been itching to switch to AOSP. However I have a few questions.
In my past experience with other devices, native ROMs (in this case Sense based) usually work a little better in terms of things like battery life, signal, and stability. Is this the same for the DNA?
Other things I'm concerned about
-Camera: IMO the Sense camera is way better than the AOSP. I can deal with the loss of software features, but is the picture quality still as good?
-Sound: Beats is mostly just an equalizer gimmick, but the DNA is loud and overall sounds great. I briefly ran an AOSP rom and the first thing I noticed was the sounds was distorted at high levels. I also found this thread which echos my problem. Is this still an issue?
I'd say in my opinion you are spot on with the sense vs aosp in the aspect of aosp issues! Just MY OPINION AND PERSONAL FINDINGS! I love Aosp but I do think it lacked some of the "stock, supposed to be there" kind of feeling I get with sense.. I have been running the CM 11 nightlies for quite a while now. I don't know about pic quality for sure. If there is a difference it's not noticeable to me. I do think I get better battery on sense but signal and stability are basically equal..
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I haven't run an AOSP rom since I first flashed NOS Google Play Edition. No matter how strong the temptation to try KitKat, the lower external speaker volume on the AOSP roms that I tried, combined with the inability to use Google Sound Search, Soundhound, or Shazam, ultimately made me stick with a rom using the Sense kernel. But, since I can't stand Sense, I'm sticking with GPE Roms, no matter how delayed they may be.
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I've just been on CM11 today after only using sense 5. I can say I already miss blinkfeed, and can already assume the battery will be worse, but everything else seems the same. It's worth trying. I'm rather fond of the Google integration.
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I've just been on CM11 today after only using sense 5. I can say I already miss blinkfeed, and can already assume the battery will be worse, but everything else seems the same. It's worth trying. I'm rather fond of the Google integration.
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The battery is way better when the screen is off, but probably worse than sense when the screen is on. I don't usually have more than 2 and a half hours of screen time in a day, but I typically get about 18 hours of battery on crpalmer's cm11 kernel. Also as far as cameras go, I love camera jb+. Stock aosp camera with some extra features, my favorite being the 6mp setting because it gives me full screen 16:9 pictures. Focal is great too and shows a lot if potential, but it's really unstable.
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The only problem I have with CM based roms is the low volume when recording videos. Otherwise no problems. Battery, signal, speaker volume, etc are are on par or better than Sense plus the snappiness and customizability are great. There may be a couple apps that don't work well with CM ROMs but I don't use those particular apps so it's not a problem for me.
I've been running Carbon 4.3 for the last two months. I have not tried a KK ROM since all the features have not been implemented yet.
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The only problem I have with CM based roms is the low volume when recording videos. Otherwise no problems. Battery, signal, speaker volume, etc are are on par or better than Sense plus the snappiness and customizability are great. There may be a couple apps that don't work well with CM ROMs but I don't use those particular apps so it's not a problem for me.
I've been running Carbon 4.3 for the last two months. I have not tried a KK ROM since all the features have not been implemented yet.
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FYI, the camcorder volume should be much better for any kit-kat ROM build with the 12/12 or later CM device tree.
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FYI, the camcorder volume should be much better for any kit-kat ROM build with the 12/12 or later CM device tree.
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Could you make that change to the 4.3 kernel?
orangechoochoo said:
Could you make that change to the 4.3 kernel?
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It's a change in the CM device tree. Gimme a kit-kat? Aka, time to bit the bullet and update?
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It's a change in the CM device tree. Gimme a kit-kat? Aka, time to bit the bullet and update?
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I spent the first two-thirds of the year playing with alpha and beta ROMs, right now I'm just holding steady with the full-featured versions of 4.3. Plus there's nothing compelling about KK ROMs except for the fact it's new. It has ART but it's still too new and some devs suggest against using it for now.
In my experience sense obviously has a better camera and also better sound even with beats off and viper audio sense sound is just better.
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I spent the first two-thirds of the year playing with alpha and beta ROMs, right now I'm just holding steady with the full-featured versions of 4.3. Plus there's nothing compelling about KK ROMs except for the fact it's new. It has ART but it's still too new and some devs suggest against using it for now.
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I've made the jump and I'm on the latest CM 4.4.2 (12-17 build) and it is sooooo much faster and smoother than 4.3. I was scared to make the jump but this thing really flies. Battery life is about the same.
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I've made the jump and I'm on the latest CM 4.4.2 (12-17 build) and it is sooooo much faster and smoother than 4.3. I was scared to make the jump but this thing really flies. Battery life is about the same.
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Even compared to 4.3 with your build.prop tweaks?
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Even compared to 4.3 with your build.prop tweaks?
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Yup. I've applied my same tweaks to 4.4.2 and it flies man. Its really stable. To odeox the ROM use this flashable zip I found in this thread. Download the "ARMEABI" (That's for our device). I'm really happy with kitkat.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47462548
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Thanks for all the input so far. Still a little worried about the sound issues but I'll probably give an AOSP rom a try, can always revert back to my nandroid
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Thanks for all the input so far. Still a little worried about the sound issues but I'll probably give an AOSP rom a try, can always revert back to my nandroid
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Def give it a try it's fun I do it all the time but inevitably always go back to sense
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Yup. I've applied my same tweaks to 4.4.2 and it flies man. Its really stable. To odeox the ROM use this flashable zip I found in this thread. Download the "ARMEABI" (That's for our device). I'm really happy with kitkat.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47462548
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I tried KK today, what annoys me is:
1. The browser, which I use a lot, doesn't have text reflow, incognito mode, and working full screen mode (hide nav bar). I do not like other browsers.
2. The dialer sucks.
With the tweaks it doesn't seem much faster than 4.3.
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I tried KK today, what annoys me is:
1. The browser, which I use a lot, doesn't have text reflow, incognito mode, and working full screen mode (hide nav bar). I do not like other browsers.
2. The dialer sucks.
With the tweaks it doesn't seem much faster than 4.3.
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Weird. Ive flashed back and forth between 4.3 and 4.4....4.4 feels way smoother
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I don't care for smoothness, I want it to be responsive and fast. If I flick up or down I don't want a delay to make it feel smooth, I want it to instantly move fast. That's just me, I have all animations and various frills turned off. I replicated the same setup on 4.4 and it just wasn't the same.
whats the best stable, lag free, and fast rom for the fascinate? is their any ROM that has JB/Kk? also, i need a rom with lots of internal space.
honestly i've been most satisfied with EH03, the verizon stock ROM. i've tried every version of CyanogenMod and nothing has come close to the fluidity and speed of good ol gingybread.
although if you absolutely can not stand touchwiz for some reason, CM9 is ok but it has a couple of issues (no native wifi tethering, weird texts from blank numbers, sometimes it just freezes and reboots itself).
also i use imoseyon's lean kernel along with a couple of other mods.. if you want them let me know. it kinda looks like touchwiz 4 for me.
using the stock verizon build too, debloated, debinged, rooted. all the links to EH03-based ROMs are dead unfortunately.
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whats the best stable, lag free, and fast rom for the fascinate? is their any ROM that has JB/Kk? also, i need a rom with lots of internal space.
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And it's so subjective,,, what works for one another despises...
I loved 'baked blackbean 6' it was 4.1.x jellybean (course i heavily tweaked it to my personal liking),,, and then came Slim ROM 4.2.2 ,,,
hellybean was good too,,,
Of course running the devil kennel from hellybean on these was the ticket too.
you just gotta be willing to take the plunge and try some different ones out till you find the one that trips your trigger the best :thumbup:
actually, based on prior experience, CM7 is the best non-TW GB ROM (although i'm content with my gutted out modded to hell EH03), ICS i just don't recommend because it gives excellent performance and is solid but the devs never fixed a few issues that are kinda big. JB just always lagged and stuttered too much but i remember Helly being a halfway decent rom
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How much internal space does it have?