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Hello all, I have some questions hopefully someone can help me with. First of all, I'd like to say I'm not a complete newb, or idiot. I have a inc2 which I have rooted and modified myself to my liking based on the stock ota Rom after trying many custom roms. I have a custom kernel set up, a daemon installed, I'm underclocked and undervolted per my settings and govs. I have read threw this forum a lot, I ordered this phone for my wife, should be here in the next few days, I'm excited as I will take it over for a few days playing with it. I have had a Samsung moment before also that I rooted, though long ago. My questions are, obviously, this bootloader is not locked, correct? On my HTC, I s offer and rooted, if I want to upgrade to the newest ota, I just wait for a dev to deox, zip align, and pre root it, then I flash that Rom in clockwork via zip file. On this phone, I should update first, before I root? If Verizon releases a ota, can I just update my phone as if I weren't rooted an retain root and everything, if not, how do I get it? You guys speak of a modem, is that the same as what HTC guys refer to as the radio, and does it need to be flashed seperately as I have to now, or is it included in Samsung roms? Is there any recovery, even the stock one, that can be used to flash and backup that isn't actually on the SD card and not the phone, in case somethin goes wrong with my card I will still be able to get into recovery? Is the fascinate officially on gingerbread? Can I just flash roms through recovery, or do most of them.require this odin thing? What is voodoo? I gather its something to do with a kernel, can it be used on a stock rooted 2.3 Rom "if there is such a thing"? I'm just a newb to this phone who can't wait to play with a new toy for a while, just unfamiliar with terminology and how things work on Samsung phones now. Should I just use some one click root method to obtain root then use the stock recovery (or custom if anyone knows one that can be installed to phone not SD) to flash files and kernels? If Verizon pushes a new ota after I do this will it try and screw me like on my inc 2? Thanks in advance for any help.
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jeremytn86 said:
Hello all, I have some questions hopefully someone can help me with. First of all, I'd like to say I'm not a complete newb, or idiot. I have a inc2 which I have rooted and modified myself to my liking based on the stock ota Rom after trying many custom roms. I have a custom kernel set up, a daemon installed, I'm underclocked and undervolted per my settings and govs. I have read threw this forum a lot, I ordered this phone for my wife, should be here in the next few days, I'm excited as I will take it over for a few days playing with it. I have had a Samsung moment before also that I rooted, though long ago. My questions are, obviously, this bootloader is not locked, correct? On my HTC, I s offer and rooted, if I want to upgrade to the newest ota, I just wait for a dev to deox, zip align, and pre root it, then I flash that Rom in clockwork via zip file. On this phone, I should update first, before I root? If Verizon releases a ota, can I just update my phone as if I weren't rooted an retain root and everything, if not, how do I get it? You guys speak of a modem, is that the same as what HTC guys refer to as the radio, and does it need to be flashed seperately as I have to now, or is it included in Samsung roms? Is there any recovery, even the stock one, that can be used to flash and backup that isn't actually on the SD card and not the phone, in case somethin goes wrong with my card I will still be able to get into recovery? Is the fascinate officially on gingerbread? Can I just flash roms through recovery, or do most of them.require this odin thing? What is voodoo? I gather its something to do with a kernel, can it be used on a stock rooted 2.3 Rom "if there is such a thing"? I'm just a newb to this phone who can't wait to play with a new toy for a while, just unfamiliar with terminology and how things work on Samsung phones now. Should I just use some one click root method to obtain root then use the stock recovery (or custom if anyone knows one that can be installed to phone not SD) to flash files and kernels? If Verizon pushes a new ota after I do this will it try and screw me like on my inc 2? Thanks in advance for any help.
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You don't actually have to root the phone. Just flash the rooted Rom of your choice through odin, and then use odin again to flash cwm (if you're using TW roms).
There's no official Gb for the fascinate as of yet, but there are a couple of Gb roms ported from the Mesmerize. Look them up in the forums. Never use the phone button in odin, always pda
By the time Verizon pushes an update somebody will already have it rooted, Su, deodexed, and ready for use. In any case, you can always go back to a completely stock version in less than 10min
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laureanop said:
You don't actually have to root the phone. Just flash the rooted Rom of your choice through odin, and then use odin again to flash cwm (if you're using TW roms).
There's no official Gb for the fascinate as of yet, but there are a couple of Gb roms ported from the Mesmerize. Look them up in the forums. Never use the phone button in odin, always pda
By the time Verizon pushes an update somebody will already have it rooted, Su, deodexed, and ready for use. In any case, you can always go back to a completely stock version in less than 10min
SCH-I500 PWGB 2. 0b3 TKSGB 9-27, shot v9. 5, honeycomb v 2.02
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I stayed up half the night last night pouring over these and other forums, I have decided I want something like your setup, I know what the PW thing in your signature is, as that's what I want, what are those other things? I guess I'm gonna put the vodoo kernel on there too. And o yeah, I can just take my completely stock phone, odin the PW Rom, and bam, I'm rooted? Do I need to install a gingerbread bootloader first? Thanks for answering these long posts..
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You can just grab the Odin file for PWGB /w modem and flash that, then flash a CWM file in before starting up the phone so it takes....and you are done. I suggest you start off with a stock kernel(included in the odin file) before you move on to other kernels. It will help you see the differences between the kernels more clearly, which to me are marginal at best...for the time being anyway.
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You can just grab the Odin file for PWGB /w modem and flash that, then flash a CWM file in before starting up the phone so it takes....and you are done. I suggest you start off with a stock kernel(included in the odin file) before you move on to other kernels. It will help you see the differences between the kernels more clearly, which to me are marginal at best...for the time being anyway.
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Thanks so much man, so if I do it that way, cwm will be on my phone memory, not SD card, correct? Also, what about that gingerbread bootloader I read about, do I need that for anything?
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jeremytn86 said:
Thanks so much man, so if I do it that way, cwm will be on my phone memory, not SD card, correct? Also, what about that gingerbread bootloader I read about, do I need that for anything?
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Don't worry about the boot loader, it'll be in the PWGB odin file.
TKSGB 9-27 is the kernel by comradesven
Adrenalineshot 9. 5 is the speed tweak
Honey comb 2. 02is the theme.
Everything you need is in the development section
I believe cwm is always in phone memory (not 100 per sure though)
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Laurenop is spot on in his posts...everything you need is included in the pwgb.tar except cwm. Thats why I always recomend new fascinate users to start with this rom. it's easy to install with no hiccups. Prime example is a couple threads down, a new user is trying to flash miui...instead of being patient, learning, doing lots of reading, he starts getting flash happy. By the time I get back on to help him he has impatiently skipped thru provided directions and soft bricks his phone lol... then wants to be spoon fed everything because he is in panic mode since it's not even his phone. Im glad you have taken the time and read up, I have no doubt you will enjoy the fassy! Welcome aboard!!
Thanks guys, I believe that does it for me, the thing I was talking bout as far as cwm bein on SD card was because I read on this forum somewhere it was on there not the phones memory, that's why Rom manager asks you to verify it or somethin, thanks for bein patient with me, now time to get my feet wet, the more I learn the more I help also, I'm not just a leech, I love helping others so you guys time and efforts were not wasted. Thanks
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jeremytn86 said:
Thanks guys, I believe that does it for me, the thing I was talking bout as far as cwm bein on SD card was because I read on this forum somewhere it was on there not the phones memory, that's why Rom manager asks you to verify it or somethin, thanks for bein patient with me, now time to get my feet wet, the more I learn the more I help also, I'm not just a leech, I love helping others so you guys time and efforts were not wasted. Thanks
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Don't even attempt using Rom manager. For all intent and purposes is useless on TW roms
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laureanop said:
Don't even attempt using Rom manager. For all intent and purposes is useless on TW roms
SCH-I500 PWGB 2. 0b3 TKSGB 9-27, shot v9. 5, honeycomb v 2.02
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I rarely use it on the inc 2, does the fassy come with a recovery and can I just use it to flash and backup stuff instead of clockwork anyways?
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na its useless...you need cwm to install zips and nandroid backup.
Thanks so much guys, yall are awesome, I'm still waiting on the phone, should be here any day, if you need any help for the inc 2 for any reason pm me I will be more than glad to help...
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So I finally made the switch from iphone to an android device. With the Iphone you would jailbreak it. Im guessing here, you would root it and then install a rom?
What do I do if I want to install a rom and then a theme?
logged101 said:
So I finally made the switch from iphone to an android device. With the Iphone you would jailbreak it. Im guessing here, you would root it and then install a rom?
What do I do if I want to install a rom and then a theme?
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First of all u need to root ur device, after this u need to install/flash a kernel with the cwm recovery (u can use easily one of the rooter kernel.made by chainfire), then u can flash the rom, kernel, theme, whatever u want/need directly thru the cwm.
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logged101 said:
So I finally made the switch from iphone to an android device. With the Iphone you would jailbreak it. Im guessing here, you would root it and then install a rom?
What do I do if I want to install a rom and then a theme?
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My advice would be to read the threads on the many kernels avaliable all have instructions on how to install... Then when you feel confident make your choice and get yourself rooted. After you understand the process and familiar with CWM and what it is used for use the same process to choose a ROM... Good Luck
In all honesty, I tried loads of roms on my s1 but I have not felt the need for it, or indeed seen any benefit to a custom rom yet, and certainly not one that will out weigh the inevitable bugs in them.
Clockwork rom bootloader is excellent for full back up and restore purposes. Frankly however with this device rooting is enough especially now there are one click solutions for it.
Once rooted there isn't much you can't change or customise. Camera apps, hacked launchers etc
Personally I have found this far more stable and much more interesting than simply installing someone else's work.
OH YES WHILST I REMEMBER FIRST THING TO DO ONCE ROOTED IS BACK UP YOUR /efs FOLDER IMMEDIATELY THIS IS ESSENTIAL!!
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In all honesty, I tried loads of roms on my s1 but I have not felt the need for it, or indeed seen any benefit to a custom rom yet, and certainly not one that will out weigh the inevitable bugs in them.
Clockwork rom bootloader is excellent for full back up and restore purposes. Frankly however with this device rooting is enough especially now there are one click solutions for it.
Once rooted there isn't much you can't change or customise. Camera apps, hacked launchers etc
Personally I have found this far more stable and much more interesting than simply installing someone else's work.
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Agreed, but onestly i think that a custom kernel allow more features than the stock. ;-)
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TecQuality said:
Agreed, but onestly i think that a custom kernel allow more features than the stock. ;-)
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I certainly don't disagree with that, wouldnt be without one packed with CWM for a start
Ok so ive been reading the threads and rom section.
I only have 2 question left. My phone atm is on android 2.3.3. In the root thread, I want to get 2.3.5 KI3.
Can I flash the KI3 right away or do I have to update my phone to 2.3.5 and then get the 2.3.5 KI3?
Is Firmware and Modem the samething? I see there both I9100XXKX#
Once I do that, I will root my phone, install cognition rom and then the ICS theme.
logged101 said:
Ok so ive been reading the threads and rom section.
I only have 2 question left. My phone atm is on android 2.3.3. In the root thread, I want to get 2.3.5 K13.
Can I flash the K13 right away or do I have to update my phone to 2.3.5 and then get the 2.3.5 K13?
Is Firmware and Modem the samething? I see there both I9100XXKX#
Once I do that, I will root my phone, install cognition rom and then the ICS theme.
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I wanna suggest to u the XXKI4 (2.3.5), this is a superb firmware, u can flash directly to this version without any trouble, for the other question, no firmware and baseband/modem are two different things, u can try many basebands cause there are some basebands that works better with ur specific carrier.
So, u should root/install cwm and than cognition and theme.
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I wanna suggest to u the XXKI4 (2.3.5), this is a superb firmware, u can flash directly to this version without any trouble, for the other question, no firmware and baseband/modem are two different things, u can try many basebands cause there are some basebands that works better with ur specific carrier.
So, u should root/install cwm and than cognition and theme.
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Thanks a lot! Reason I said KI3 is because thats what the rom supports.
Based on I9100XWKJ3 firmware
Rooted, deodexed and zipaligned
Ninphetamine-2.1.3 Kernel
I9100XXKI3 Modem
Help rooting?!
I need serious help to root my phone and to get a ROM on it. I don't really care about it I just have an error in my phone that is caused by water getting into my USB port (i think) any ways I have flashed phones before but only the first Xperia that came out. I have read the guides, over and over. still might as well be reading chinese. I need to take off that damn voice talk crap. anyone close to the washington dc area willin to help? I can pay you and if need be I can just send my phone away to someone maybe? I currently do not have a back up phone this is why this is such a problem for me send me a message here or email me at [email protected]
Be more specific what exactly is the error you are getting? And how did it start.
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Just moved from iPhone to i777, wanted to get ICS, but eneded up bricking my first phone by installing something meant for i9000. At that time I didn’t know Galaxy S2 has variants, just searched for S2 and got burned. My fault…..should have understood better.
I want to do it right this time so I have been reading about i777, ROMs, kernels, CWM.
I want to put SHOStock or CM9 ROM.
I know where these ROMs are and how to flash them using CWM.
But that’s where my confusion starts, that there are just too many sources and options and I don’t know which one is right.
So please advise.
How do I root?
Using this? It has multiple options
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18576627#post18576627
or this ?
http://galaxys2root.com/galaxy-s2-root/how-to-root-att-galaxy-s2-sgh-i777/
Which kernel to use
The one mentioned in SHOStock thread #3 post the Cherry Picker Kernel for i777 or Entorpy? Siayh
How do I get CWM on these, isn’t recovery part of the kernel or do I flash It separately or may be use ROM Manager, once rooted.
Modem? What does it do? Is it for phone or wi-fi and how do I know which one to use.
My phone’s data
SGH-i777
Android 2.3.6
Baseband I777UCKK6
Kernel 2.6.35.7
Build#
GINGERBREAD.UCKK6
Here's what you need to do:
1. Use Odin to flash stock UCKH7 with Root, available here. Be aware that doing this will require a full wipe, so do what you can to back up your sms/mms/contacts and other data. READ EVERY STEP CAREFULLY. Do not flash a kernel with Odin.
2. Now that you have root access, download Mobile Odin from the Play Store. Use it to flash either Entropy's DD or Siyah. This will install CWM Recovery.
3. Boot into CWM Recovery and make a nandroid backup.
4. Use CWM to flash SHOStock or CM9.
First of all thanks for responding.......
Is there a relation between which ROM will work with which Kernel, I may be wrong but I got the impression, depending on which ROM you are putting, you should have a kernel that supports it.
Also it seems like, ShoStock has its own variation of entropy, named cherry picker.
Thanks.......
mattdm said:
Here's what you need to do:
1. Use Odin to flash stock UCKH7 with Root, available here. Be aware that doing this will require a full wipe, so do what you can to back up your sms/mms/contacts and other data. READ EVERY STEP CAREFULLY. Do not flash a kernel with Odin.
2. Now that you have root access, download Mobile Odin from the Play Store. Use it to flash either Entropy's DD or Siyah. This will install CWM Recovery.
3. Boot into CWM Recovery and make a nandroid backup.
4. Use CWM to flash SHOStock or CM9.
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Agree with matts post just like to add that you can get the free mobile odin here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347899 to flash the kernel so you dont spend any money. download file, extract, move apk to sdcard, use root or file explorer locate and run the apk. follow instructions on flashing a kernel
Thanks a ton got it.....
aj9507 said:
Agree with matts post just like to add that you can get the free mobile odin here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347899 to flash the kernel so you dont spend any money. download file, extract, move apk to sdcard, use root or file explorer locate and run the apk. follow instructions on flashing a kernel
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Ah yes, thanks. I always forget to mention that.
Itsme1967 said:
First of all thanks for responding.......
Is there a relation between which ROM will work with which Kernel, I may be wrong but I got the impression, depending on which ROM you are putting, you should have a kernel that supports it.
Also it seems like, ShoStock has its own variation of entropy, named cherry picker.
Thanks.......
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Sometimes there is, but it seems like most of the ICS kernels are interchangeable. Just try out each kernel for a few days...once you have CWM, switching kernels is no big deal. When switching kernels, though, it's always wise to flash jivy's Kernel Cleaning Script just before flashing a new kernel.
Can you use CWM to flash kernels as well ? I thought they always have to be done using ODIN.
May be I underestimated CWM, I thought it was for ROMs and zips only.
Itsme1967 said:
Can you use CWM to flash kernels as well ? I thought they always have to be done using ODIN.
May be I underestimated CWM, I thought it was for ROMs and zips only.
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u can use mobile odin or cwm but its just a matter of preference you just had to use mobile odin at first to acquire a cwm enabled kernel but pretty much you can flash everything in cwm as long as its specified to be cwm flashable zip kernels roms and modems and such
edit: the free mobile odin only lets you flash kernels btw its the premium version that lets you do everything without going to recovery
hope to help
Itsme1967 said:
Can you use CWM to flash kernels as well ? I thought they always have to be done using ODIN.
May be I underestimated CWM, I thought it was for ROMs and zips only.
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You don't seem to have a firm grasp on all this. Maybe you should do some more reading before going further...
Anyway, here's a brief explanation:
A kernel is the underlying core of the operating system; it is how the OS interacts with the hardware.
A rom (the proper term is actually firmware, but nobody uses it) is basically the whole user interface; it's the part of the OS you see. When you flash a rom, you're flashing everything, including a kernel.
Like I said before, you never want to flash a custom kernel using Odin. Doing so will trip the phone's flash counter, and this will show up if you ever have to take the phone in for warranty stuff.
The reason it's ok to use Odin to flash the stock with root package is that it comes with the stock kernel, not a custom one. Basically, once you're rooted, you shouldn't touch Odin again unless its to recover from a brick. Basically everything else can be done in CWM.
Yes I am still reading & trying to get a grip on it.
So first I will root it, then flash kernel using Mobil Odin
Then get in CWM mode ad flash ROM, which will come with the kernel i.e. cherrypicker kernel and modem I need.
Yes one part I have understood very well is that use CWM as much as one can to avoid committing mistakes by flashing something that doesn't belong.
Sorry for asking so many qs., I wish I could understand this faster.....
Thanks again........
Itsme1967 said:
Yes I am still reading & trying to get a grip on it.
So first I will root it, then flash kernel using Mobil Odin
Then get in CWM mode ad flash ROM, which will come with the kernel i.e. cherrypicker kernel and modem I need.
Yes one part I have understood very well is that use CWM as much as one can to avoid committing mistakes by flashing something that doesn't belong.
Sorry for asking so many qs., I wish I could understand this faster.....
Thanks again........
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Yeah no problem. I would suggest that you wait a while before doing this. Read through all the stickies and guides to can find, and get more familiar with everything. Then after a couple days, go for it.
Crap, I'm starting to think I should not but a sg2....
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rpomponio said:
Crap, I'm starting to think I should not but a sg2....
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Why?
I remember my first flash....
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jthatch12 said:
I remember my first flash....
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I remember mine, read and re read the guides 3 to 5 times before I even touched my phone that I had for only three hours before I got bored with stock lol. To op don't be afraid man this forum is here to help and the gs2 is a great phone
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:*) nice ! Love these kinds of threads.
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Why?
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Can you send me a guide please, I have been reading for a couple days now and alot of what I see is wifi breaks after root. I am buying a sg2 in about 2 weeks so plan on seeing me around. I want to root it and run ics but I need my wifi... Any help is greatly appreciated!! Thank you in advance!!!
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rpomponio said:
Can you send me a guide please, I have been reading for a couple days now and alot of what I see is wifi breaks after root. I am buying a sg2 in about 2 weeks so plan on seeing me around. I want to root it and run ics but I need my wifi... Any help is greatly appreciated!! Thank you in advance!!!
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Wifi works fine on ics
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Nick281051 said:
Wifi works fine on ics
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So I just need to go threw the root process, make a back up, and when I flash the ics ROM I choose, my wifi will be back?? Sorry for the noobish questions, I plan on rooting my sg2 as soon as I get home from buying it and I don't want to brick it... Any help is much appreciated!!! Thank you in advance!
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rpomponio said:
Can you send me a guide please, I have been reading for a couple days now and alot of what I see is wifi breaks after root. I am buying a sg2 in about 2 weeks so plan on seeing me around. I want to root it and run ics but I need my wifi... Any help is greatly appreciated!! Thank you in advance!!!
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mattdm said:
Here's what you need to do:
1. Use Odin to flash stock UCKH7 with Root, available here. Be aware that doing this will require a full wipe, so do what you can to back up your sms/mms/contacts and other data. READ EVERY STEP CAREFULLY. Do not flash a kernel with Odin.
2. Now that you have root access, download Mobile Odin from the Play Store. Use it to flash either Entropy's DD or Siyah. This will install CWM Recovery.
3. Boot into CWM Recovery and make a nandroid backup.
4. Use CWM to flash SHOStock or CM9.
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You don't need any more of a guide than that. Don't worry about breaking wifi, that isn't a problem on any of the popular roms.
If you want a Samsung based ICS rom that works really well, I suggest ShoStock2. If you want an AOSP based rom, most people suggest AOKP. I haven't tried it personally.
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So I just need to go threw the root process, make a back up, and when I flash the ics ROM I choose, my wifi will be back??
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You're wifi won't go away in the first place.
I couldn't find an answer on the threads. I rooted my at&t last night w entropy512s one click kernel and root. Well I'm new to the phone tech so it took me a while. I now cannot use any of the market Hotspot apps to run my tablet off my s2 wifi. I could before the root and from what I was told it should be easier to do this after rooting. Am I missing something? Is there a special way I have to do it now? I'm so confused.
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I'm not familiar with those applications. I don't know any reason they would not work. And it's not clear from your post what exactly the problem is. You mean you can't install them, or that they do not produce a wifi signal even though installed?
Anyway, almost all custom roms include portable wi-fi hotspot, as well as usb tethering and sometimes bluetooth tethering. Since you have rooted, why don't you go ahead and pick a custom rom and put that on. Problem solved.
There is a good guide linked in my signature.
Yeah, once you have a custom rom, just use the built-in tethering. Works great for tablets.
Yea I can install them, I've tried a few of them and none put out a wifi signal. I don't know what rom I should flash yet. Since I did the entropy512s one click root+ kernel I understand that the kernel is gingerbread, does that mean I need a gingerbread rom? I was hoping for the latest, greatest build. Any guidance is GREATLY appreciated as it took me hour just to root. Lol
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nednerbish said:
Yea I can install them, I've tried a few of them and none put out a wifi signal. I don't know what rom I should flash yet. Since I did the entropy512s one click root+ kernel I understand that the kernel is gingerbread, does that mean I need a gingerbread rom? I was hoping for the latest, greatest build. Any guidance is GREATLY appreciated as it took me hour just to root. Lol
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Since you used Entropy512's package to root, you have a stock kernel. In order to install custom firmware, you need to first install a custom kernel that contains ClockworkMod Recovery onto your phone. That kernel must be Gingerbread. However, once you have the kernel and CWM installed, you can then flash any firmware you choose, Gingerbread, ICS or JB.
The guide which is the first link in my signature contains all the info you need.
Fantastic. Thank you so much for your time. I will try first chance I can.
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I will give you two pieces of advice:
1: Follow the instructions given to you by Creepy (and any instructions in the OP of ROMS) to the T.
2: Read then read some more. When you're done with that, read it all over again. Afterwards, follow step 2 again. This goes for searching about any issue you may come across.
Have fun, this device is really amazing once you figure out more about it
Clay
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I thank you. I will. I'm so confused about this stuff but it seems the more I read I am really UNDERSTANDING what it means. But it takes about 10 read throughs.
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Ok I was told to get entropys dd kernel since it had cwm with it. I guess thats the next step correct?
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Use creepy's guide Ned! You need to figure out what your next step is.
Im on the mobile tapatalk (on vacation), So i cant use my computer to reaserch the xda site easily. Im trying to learn as much as possibe before i get home and actually do it.
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Good plan. When you get the cwm kernel, do a nandroid backup then pick any rom you like... (cm10 nightly just came out, if you like jellybean)
AOKP by Task650 is another JB alternative.
Which is better you ask? Gonna have to try them both! They both offer stability and great user experience for most who try them. Maybe you're a GB or an ICS kinda guy though!
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It really doesn't matter much which kernel you choose for the next step, because it's only on your phone for a short time. Assuming you rooted with the Gingerbread stock plus root package, then you need a custom Gingerbread kernel which has ClockworkMod Recovery. I believe the links in my guide for the kernels are still working links.
The root I did said it was root + kernel. I take it the one with the entropy512 one click root+ kernel doesnt include the cwm. Im sorry im jist trying to understand the whole process not just do it. Alot of what i read doesnt click. Loke when I rooted it took me 6+ hours because I didnt know you want to save the file not open it when downldng it. also I read the deleting the tethermanager2.apk will open wifi/tether. True?
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Forget i asked. I re read your comment. Ok its a stock kernel. So it wouldnt. I understand. A stock kernel probably would make it easier to return to stock. right?
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nednerbish said:
Forget i asked. I re read your comment. Ok its a stock kernel. So it wouldnt. I understand. A stock kernel probably would make it easier to return to stock. right?
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Essentially, yes, but if you're going for custom ROMs, that's not what you want. There are easy ways of getting back to stock if all else fails.
You gotta know what you want first, before you move forward. I know you want tethering to work, and people here have recommended moving to a custom ROM because tethering does not seem to work for you on rooted, stock ROM and stock kernel. So do you want a custom ROM instead (you'll lose some of your current data via that route)? Or do you not care about ROMs and you just want wifi tethering to work now that you're rooted?
Assuming you want just the latter of the two options, I would recommend that you first try a custom kernel (this is different from a custom ROM, but note most custom ROMs include a custom kernel upon install). You mentioned Entropy's Daily Driver Gingerbread kernel, which is a great one. I'd recommend installing it and seeing if that fixes your wifi tethering problem. To install, use Mobile Odin lite version; you can find that apk in Creepy's guide. Download and save the zip from Entropy's DD thread, then extract the zImage file from it (make sure to use the name "zImage", no file extension, important) and move that to your phone via USB mounting. After that, in Mobile Odin lite navigate to the zImage file and flash it; viola, you now have Entropy's custom Gingerbread kernel and stock GB ROM. All custom kernels include ClockworkMod (no other way to get it), so you have that too.
If the custom kernel alone does not fix your wifi tethering problem, then maybe it's time to move to a custom ROM. With CWM, you can flash anything (ROMs, kernels, what have you) much more easily, but we'll get to that after you get the kernel, which is part of the process anyway.
These instructions are all repeated in paragraph 3a of Creepy's guide, and more information is written there, so I would recommend reading it thoroughly so you do understand. I know it's frustrating at first, but you'll get it, and you seem like the type to eventually get it right and understand what you're doing.
THANK YOU!!! I will try that tonight. That was very helpful info. So I CAN do this right from phone the? I saw there were some Apps that can do stuff like that but wasn't sure if they worked. I think I saw one linked to the superuser app. Ill keep you updated
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I also want a new rom also. I'm just trying to get there. LOL
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[Chinese accent] Have patience, Grasshopper.
Guys I know this is long but PLEASE don't freak out! I really need some advice from you experts on this! I hope you could spend your time reading everything here and give me some advices! Thanks!
Phone details:
Model number: GT-I9300
Android version: 4.3
Baseband version: I9300DXUGNB1
Build number: JSS15J.I9300XXUGNA5
Hello guys, since I'm not really a rooting expert (previously I rooted a motorola device), I would like to ask for some advices regarding rooting our S3 because I have only one phone and I can't afford to brick it.
1. So basically I'm referring to the guide here. However, that rooting guide is for Samsung Galaxy S3 on I9300XXUGNA7 Android 4.3 Jelly Bean, which is different from my build number (I've checked software update on my device over OTA and Kies3 but it says I have the latest firmware), will it works for my phone? Also in the guide it says to use odin3 v3.09, however in CF_auto_root page here it says to use odin3 v1.85, so which one is working for my device or which one is better?
2. Next I would like to ask is it necessary to install CWM recovery to replace the stock one? After searching around, I found that there are some people who installed CWM recovery even before rooting, is that even possible? So basically to install CMW recovery I think I will follow the steps here, is this working for my device?
3. Okay I know this is the dumbest question... but is there anything else I need to do after the above 2 steps (flashing kernel, modem etc.)?
Thank you very much for spending your time reading my post. I hope you can clear those doubts for me!
You are posting in the wrong section my friend you need to post your question here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/help << you will find you will get alot more replies...Ask a mod to move your post....
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You are posting in the wrong section my friend you need to post your question here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/help << you will find you will get alot more replies...Ask a mod to move your post....
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Oops I see... thanks for telling!
nikctsh said:
Oops I see... thanks for telling!
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Glad to see you in the right place now
Have a look at this thread >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/general/howto-rooting-wiping-flashing-ultimate-t1911726 << it may help you answer a few questions...
Also if you are planning to flash custom roms you do not need to root if you are doing it to mod your phone only then you will need to root..
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Guys I know this is long but PLEASE don't freak out! I really need some advice from you experts on this! I hope you could spend your time reading everything here and give me some advices! Thanks!
Phone details:
Model number: GT-I9300
Android version: 4.3
Baseband version: I9300DXUGNB1
Build number: JSS15J.I9300XXUGNA5
Thank you very much for spending your time reading my post. I hope you can clear those doubts for me!
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Flashing your phone in any way doesn't guarantee not bricking it, see this thread
Scroll down to the quoted section headed Quick Root from there
Download Odin
Download CF-AutoRoot for your phone
Read the link on rooting
It is really straight forward just read up on it but don't read too much into it a frighten yourself
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Glad to see you in the right place now
Have a look at this thread >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/general/howto-rooting-wiping-flashing-ultimate-t1911726 << it may help you answer a few questions...
Also if you are planning to flash custom roms you do not need to root if you are doing it to mod your phone only then you will need to root..
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Great that thread helps a lot! I cleared most of my doubts now, but one more question please, after rooting, I wished to install ported apps like S5 launcher and accuweather, and in order to install these I need to flash from recovery. Is it possible to flash this using stock recovery? Or I need to install custom recovery like CMW?
You can't install anything with stock recovery, you'll need a custom recovery.
Make sure you have a full nandroid and efs backup before you flash anything -ported apps can break the framework and produce bootloops.
Seriously though, all this information is available in the sticky or by searching -why do need people to write it all out for you?
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You can't install anything with stock recovery, you'll need a custom recovery.
Make sure you have a full nandroid and efs backup before you flash anything -ported apps can break the framework and produce bootloops.
Seriously though, all this information is available in the sticky or by searching -why do need people to write it all out for you?
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Thanks for your information. I did search around and try to understand the things myself, but still there are some doubts remain, that's why I opened this thread hoping that someone can clear the doubts for me. This is my only phone and I really can't afford another (I'm from a low-income family), I just want to make sure everything is alright so that I don't mess up my device. Thanks for your understanding
If this is relevant for Samsung galaxy s3, I got this done the other day using Odin to unlock and root, ran the root app to confirm root. The ROM manager to found CWM recovery flash. So far all good, should take 5 mins in all but an hour in prep and homework.
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Don't use rom manager, it can soft brick your phone.
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Hello! I agree that it would be better NOT to use Rom Manager. Many users had problems because of it. The safest way, in my opinion, is to flash a custom kernel using Odin. For example, I had stock rom and used Odin to flash boeffla kernel (not advertising it, just saying what I did) because that kernel had both a .tar version and a .zip one. I downloaded the .tar version and flashed it with Odin by putting the .tar file in the PDA column. That's for root.
For recovery I'm using PhilZTouch and I love it. It supports both JB and KK roms and that is preety cool. Also it's full touch so I don't need to stress my hardware buttons. It's also available as .tar file so you can flash it with Odin just like the kernel.
That's how I'd recommend anyone to root and install a custom recovery on a Sammy phone because I believe it's the safest way. PS: before launching Odin make sure the phone is NOT connected to the PC and that Kies isn't running in the background (use Task Manager to check) Goodluck! !! :thumbup::thumbup:
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fatcarrotcake said:
If this is relevant for Samsung galaxy s3, I got this done the other day using Odin to unlock and root, ran the root app to confirm root. The ROM manager to found CWM recovery flash. So far all good, should take 5 mins in all but an hour in prep and homework.
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Wow, that's great. By saying unlock, do you mean unlock the bootloader? Wait, is the bootloader locked in our S3?
AlexVat said:
Hello! I agree that it would be better NOT to use Rom Manager. Many users had problems because of it. The safest way, in my opinion, is to flash a custom kernel using Odin. For example, I had stock rom and used Odin to flash boeffla kernel (not advertising it, just saying what I did) because that kernel had both a .tar version and a .zip one. I downloaded the .tar version and flashed it with Odin by putting the .tar file in the PDA column. That's for root.
For recovery I'm using PhilZTouch and I love it. It supports both JB and KK roms and that is preety cool. Also it's full touch so I don't need to stress my hardware buttons. It's also available as .tar file so you can flash it with Odin just like the kernel.
That's how I'd recommend anyone to root and install a custom recovery on a Sammy phone because I believe it's the safest way. PS: before launching Odin make sure the phone is NOT connected to the PC and that Kies isn't running in the background (use Task Manager to check) Goodluck! !! :thumbup::thumbup:
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Thanks! Will check out PhilZTouch recovery :fingers-crossed:
Currently struggling with deodexing/odexing the stock rom, after reading around I can differentiate between the odex and deodex rom, still digging on how to deodex a rom though (since I want to install some S5 mods). After searching around, it seems like titanium backup can do the deodexing/odexing just nice Gonna do some more preparation, hopefully I can have my device rooted by this week
You could flash PhilZ Recovery and make a nand backup of your rom. This way you'd have an emergency copy if something goes wrong or if you break something in the system. Just my thought
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