Okay so I have five days uptime but have noticed this since two days uptime. I dont ever restart my phone because im an uptime junkie. But when I use stock task killer and remove everything from the list im still using 1gb which doesnt help me at all. Any thoughts? I know if I reboot itll be fine but I dont want to.
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Okay so I have five days uptime but have noticed this since two days uptime. I dont ever restart my phone because im an uptime junkie. But when I use stock task killer and remove everything from the list im still using 1gb which doesnt help me at all. Any thoughts? I know if I reboot itll be fine but I dont want to.
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also forgot to mention stock unrooted locked, etc, just high ram hog. sometimes randomly when i end all tasks i can get it to go down to like 600-800mb usage. but lately no matter how many times you end it, its at like 1gb, and it sucks because phones 1.75gb ram, and when i open a few things it starts to get really slow because theres not much free to play with.
what does it matter? you have 1.75gb available and your using 1.11 so it leave you with 640mb free... No matter if there is 1gb free or 640mb you wont be able to tell the difference performance wise since you have more than enough ram to cover it. If you want about bunch of extra ram just laying around not being used then try a aosp rom, but you will lose all the fancy touchwiz features.
I use fast reboot. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greatbytes.fastreboot it works pretty good for me
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Okay so I have five days uptime but have noticed this since two days uptime. I dont ever restart my phone because im an uptime junkie. But when I use stock task killer and remove everything from the list im still using 1gb which doesnt help me at all. Any thoughts? I know if I reboot itll be fine but I dont want to.
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Touchwiz is a pig.
That app doesn't do anything for me. Stock killer works the same. Kill and 1gb in use
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As I said before, Touchwiz is a pig. You can clear ram in task manager all day long and literally watch the usage climb as it restarts services and apps you killed (and shouldn't have).
Touchwiz is a bigger pig than even Sense. We literally have 1gb less of internal storage than the Droid DNA, and they have the same amount of carrier crapware.
You have 2gb of ram, so I don't see the issue. Unused ram is wasted ram. You clearly aren't running out of ram, so what does it matter? The same amount of electricity powers unused ram as used.
I say this because I notice when using snote with spen its really laggy sometimes because I have like no ram available and gotta kill apps.
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I say this because I notice when using snote with spen its really laggy sometimes because I have like no ram available and gotta kill apps.
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The thing is, according to the task mangler you aren't out of ram, per this thread.
My ram usage at any given time is close to 1.3gb and higher. I have no lagginess in the s-pen. So if you are sitting at 1gb free and having issues with the s-pen, I'd look elsewhere to your problem.
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The thing is, according to the task mangler you aren't out of ram, per this thread.
My ram usage at any given time is close to 1.3gb and higher. I have no lagginess in the s-pen. So if you are sitting at 1gb free and having issues with the s-pen, I'd look elsewhere to your problem.
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your use is that high because the rom itself is, same as on a computer. wanna lessen it rom the phone, ive never seen my phone lag.
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your use is that high because the rom itself is, same as on a computer. wanna lessen it rom the phone, ive never seen my phone lag.
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I never said I saw phone lag???
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Well one would be how come as the longer my phone runs even with taskillers I start off with like 500 megs of free space but as the day go on it slowly goes down it got down to like 200 megs even with taskiller anybody ideas just wondering
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Because ram is a cache.
It stores/loads the frequently used apps in memory so that you can access them quickly when you need.
It is just how it is supposed to work.
You do not need free memory for smooth operation. If the memory is already loaded with app you would be using then this approach will give you faster response than a memory free from any apps.
Do not care much about free memory, those apps are just residing in the memory, so that you can access them faster when you use.
Autokiller requires root...
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hey shadow, what you been up to?
did you forget from the days of the captivate, that free ram is wasted ram? and that task killers are worthless?
Lol ofcourse you would be on these threads pirateghost I just get annoyed at everything lately with this bs bootloader im thinking I put my money on the wrong horse glad o bought this phone flat out lol owell it will entertain.me for now
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Does anyone else notice that the resound has horrible memory management. I just got it to day and I haven't rooted it or anything yet. I have es task manager and its always saying I have between 50-90mb of ram left which is horrible if I clean the caches I get about 400 back but it fills back up almost in a min and starts slowing down Mabry its just all the bloatware I guess
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When something needs room, Android makes room for it. Nothing new.
If you don't want the extra stuff running, then root it and freeze the apps you don't want. Again, nothing new.
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When something needs room, Android makes room for it. Nothing new.
If you don't want the extra stuff running, then root it and freeze the apps you don't want. Again, nothing new.
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This.
This isn't Windows. Android manages RAM in a different way.
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This.
This isn't Windows. Android manages RAM in a different way.
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I understand that android manages there ram different I just its just that I had an EVO4g (512 ram an 998m processor) and sense 3.5 was my fav Rom for it I guess I just expected the ruu stock would be more impressive on a machine that could handle it but honestly my EVO handle its cache an ram better I never had lag unless it was a beta Rom so just venting I guess lol. But then again they were all developed Rom made to manage processes better and I have never liked stock kennels.
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So I noticed that the lte shows less ram then the 3D anyone know why this is? Thought lte had more
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If it is like in the computer world I would guess more of it is going to the GPU or other components in the phone.
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So I noticed that the lte shows less ram then the 3D anyone know why this is? Thought lte had more
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Though it says that there is so much of the RAM being "used" in reality only a portion is actually being used. There are many programs that are dormit in memory waiting for you to execute them, by remaining dormit in memory they can run much faster, its in a way caching.
Now if you want to control that, download AutoKiller Memory from the Play Store (https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5ycy5hdXRva2lsbGVyIl0.) and you can adjust the way the Kernel manages the dormit apps and free physical memory. Please read the help and the Dev's website for more understanding of the tool and the way Android manages the RAM.
Yeah, it's probably allotted for something else.
I noticed this with the Sense 4 ROMS for the 3D. All of a sudden had like 200mb total of missing RAM by flashing the ROM.
Hey guys. I am a bit worried. The phone seems to be running fine but my RAM is constantly bellow 250 MB... I am killing everything possible and constantly using advanced task killer but still. I even saw a point where I had 90mb ram left... sometimes I can see that temple run also runs choppy. I find this extremely strange ... any help would be appreciated ...
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damn dude just use the search button!!! there are a lot of same posts!
Stop using f*ckin advanced task killer.
It hasn't been needed since 2.1.
It does more harm than good.
250mb free ram is fine, touchwiz likes ram, deal with it.
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Stop using f*ckin advanced task killer.
It hasn't been needed since 2.1.
It does more harm than good.
250mb free ram is fine, touchwiz likes ram, deal with it.
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Hey guys. I am a bit worried. The phone seems to be running fine but my RAM is constantly bellow 250 MB... I am killing everything possible and constantly using advanced task killer but still. I even saw a point where I had 90mb ram left... sometimes I can see that temple run also runs choppy. I find this extremely strange ... any help would be appreciated ...
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Have you tried de-bloating your phone? It would also be good to disable application that auto-starts.
Hey. You don't have to worry about the available RAM being low. Android manages RAM usage differently than most other Operating Systems like OSX and Windows. Essentially, having RAM used up in Android is good because it caches apps in the background which allows you to have fluid multitasking.
If you are worried about performance then the best thing to do would be to install an app called Watchdog. This app will monitor the CPU usage of apps. These truly affect the performance of the phone. In general though don't worry about the RAM. And whatever you do, don't use a Task Killer for RAM purposes. This can be damaging because it can corrupt files and processes and inevitably cause more harm than good.
Hope that helps
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Yep, 3rd party memory management sw use more power than they save so uninstall it at your earliest convenience please As you know ICS handles memory beautifuly. IT clears memory as needed so don't waste your time on memory-peeping and enjoy your phone
Thanks for the fast reply guys . I just removed the task manager . Did not know that it actually does more harm than help. How can I stop applications from autorstarting? Also I can't remove the bloatware unless a root the phone which at this point I am not that interested in doing ...
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Thanks for the fast reply guys . I just removed the task manager . Did not know that it actually does more harm than help. How can I stop applications from autorstarting? Also I can't remove the bloatware unless a root the phone which at this point I am not that interested in doing ...
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You cannot stop apps from autostarting without root.
You do not need root to remove bloatware.
Go to settings and apps, and then click on what you don't want and disable it.
how about this, this is really worst, i don,t have much bloatware running, still ram is very low
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there are threads with options for this.
ROOTED anyway.
edit your build prop, change the delvik heap size to 128....freed up ram for me, though i honestly dont need it. i only have around 100mgb of free ram and my phone still multie tasks like a champ.
but there are options.
The story about ram management being different on android or linux is a common explanation used with regard to why ram consumption is not something to be worried about, but it is not entirely true. The truth is, ram and cpu speed work hand in hand. If your ram is full, then the cpu has to constantly open and close background processes, and this will slow the phone down if the cpu is slow. For example, on the Galaxy S, the phone starts to lag when ram falls below 100mb. However, there is no such problem on the Galaxy S3. This is due to the quad core cpu which is able to open and close processes fast enough that there is no noticeable lag. With that said, ram consumption is nothing to be worried about on multi-core phones, despite the fact that it was a problem on older single core phones. The only way the ram on the Galaxy S3 would be limited enough to cause problems is if a single app or process requires more than the 780mb available, which is extremely unlikely.
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The story about ram management being different on android or linux is a common explanation used with regard to why ram consumption is not something to be worried about, but it is not entirely true. The truth is, ram and cpu speed work hand in hand. If your ram is full, then the cpu has to constantly open and close background processes, and this will slow the phone down if the cpu is slow. For example, on the Galaxy S, the phone starts to lag when ram falls below 100mb. However, there is no such problem on the Galaxy S3. This is due to the quad core cpu which is able to open and close processes fast enough that there is no noticeable lag. With that said, ram consumption is nothing to be worried about on multi-core phones, despite the fact that it was a problem on older single core phones. The only way the ram on the Galaxy S3 would be limited enough to cause problems is if a single app or process requires more than the 780mb available, which is extremely unlikely.
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This is assuming that what the cpu is processing is not in RAM, which is the point of it anyway
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I also think that RAM is not the issue, although I just read that Samsung is planning to increase RAM to 2GB even for the European Models because of Jelly Bean consuming more RAM than expected...
T.
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I also think that RAM is not the issue, although I just read that Samsung is planning to increase RAM to 2GB even for the European Models because of Jelly Bean consuming more RAM than expected...
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That is false. The US versions have 2GB of RAM because of their processor using more RAM. Jellybean runs just fine on the Galaxy nexus with 1GB of RAM and only a dual core processor.
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I also think that RAM is not the issue, although I just read that Samsung is planning to increase RAM to 2GB even for the European Models because of Jelly Bean consuming more RAM than expected...
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That's bull****.
People need to stop spreading this retarded rumour from the verge.
Your version of the story is after taking on new facts as well, this is like Chinese whispers.
The nexus s is getting it, the nexus s has 512mb of ram of which 360mb is usable.
End. Of. Story.
I have JB on my gnex and its using 300mb ram with 400 free and I have loads of apps open.
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nodstuff said:
That's bull****.
People need to stop spreading this retarded rumour from the verge.
Your version of the story is after taking on new facts as well, this is like Chinese whispers.
The nexus s is getting it, the nexus s has 512mb of ram of which 360mb is usable.
End. Of. Story.
I have JB on my gnex and its using 300mb ram with 400 free and I have loads of apps open.
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The nexus s is also single core.
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The nexus s is also single core.
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Exactly!
JB will be absolutely fine on the S3.
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Unused ram is wasted ram
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Lennyuk said:
Unused ram is wasted ram
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This.:good:
I see many people on xda posting ridiculous methods of freeing up Ram and frying the phone
I was once one of them, but its too much nuisance to tolerate when its again and again repeated, I found this very cool thread for noobs:
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Hi,
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Re,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904023
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
And there are a bunch of others like these...
This is the placebo effect, you see more free RAM (oooh a high number !!!) and you think it is better so you feel it's better.
Sometimes higher is not better...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812620
But... wait... Another thread about memory management... ouch, do you think that the noobs will read it or use it?
In before lock.
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In before lock.
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Absolutely pointless post. ^^
Interesting article. Thanks op.
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Thanks for post. Many users don't know this
I'm waiting for someone to come in to this thread and try to tell us why you need 50 gigs of Ram and how his US variant with 2 gigs of RAM is far superior to the international, I own both so before this even comes to light lets be clear,clean,cut and dry the international version is smoother than the US variant no matter how many of you RAM fanatics want to tell me that 2 gigs is master race. Further Android manages RAM very well on it's own you can probably run just about anything with 512mb of RAM, but a whole gigabyte that's just butter on my toast. I hope people will actually read this thread and learn how their devices work instead of just yelling about how they need more RAM and wonder why they have no battery life when a task manager constantly clears the cache. I would appreciate it if one of the more informed members of XDA can make a simple write up of how Android manages RAM and why more free RAM is not always better :highfive:
Whilst I agree with the comments here it sometimes helps by not being rude to people who aren't as knowledgeable with android as some of us and who are asking questions like I have seen in some threads.
Whilst the adage free RAM is wasted RAM is generally correct with android there is no harm in freezing of uninstalling apps that you know you don't use.
For example I never use svoice and chat-on so there is no harm in freezing those or preventing them from loading if they will never be used.
Whilst unused RAM IS wasted RAM,,, RAM used by unused apps is also wasted ram
Go easy on the noobs and have a good weekend.
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Whilst I agree with the comments here it sometimes helps by not being rude to people who aren't as knowledgeable with android as some of us and who are asking questions like I have seen in some threads.
Whilst the adage free RAM is wasted RAM is generally correct with android there is no harm in freezing of uninstalling apps that you know you don't use.
For example I never use svoice and chat-on so there is no harm in freezing those or preventing them from loading if they will never be used.
Whilst unused RAM IS wasted RAM,,, RAM used by unused apps is also wasted ram
Go easy on the noobs and have a good weekend.
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While I do agree with this post no one here was implying that you shouldn't uninstall or Freeze bloatware, best wishes.
Ram, that's made by Dodge right?
I was cursing sammy for not providing 2 gigs in s3 (int)but now it seems fine. But since ram is cheaper what in the world would had hapnd if sammy had provided 2 gigs.
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imranb_001 said:
I was cursing sammy for not providing 2 gigs in s3 (int)but now it seems fine. But since ram is cheaper what in the world would had hapnd if sammy had provided 2 gigs.
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If I'm not mistaken the architecture of the version supporting HSPA does not support 2gb, that's why the Korean variant is slightly different and has 2 gigs of RAM, essentially It wouldn't have made any difference, the 32nm a9 process is about as far as it's going to go. (also I think the Korean version has 2 gigs of Ram due to LTE taking up more resources)
op, maybe it is not the issue of free-ing up RAM.. it also save up some battery...
eg: before you went to slp... make sure all are shut down.. and hv a minimal prog open for sync/phone..
of course now all OS have RAM optimism, but then sometime/some of the OS are not so profession on this.
most of the time due to the OS rooted/JB, which will have different methodology for optimizing the RAM.
Well, you can't deny the fact that more ram equals better multitasking. With less than 200mb of free ram after several days of use, my browser has to reload whenever I minimise it to check messages. But that wouldn't be the case if I had more free ram, ie when I've just rebooted the phone.
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LOL...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812620
But... wait... Another thread about memory management... ouch, do you think that the noobs will read it or use it?
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I hope they do
If 2gb is not necessary on a phone, then explain having a quad core phone?
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If 2gb is not necessary on a phone, then explain having a quad core phone?
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Apparently, you've never met the Joneses and don't know how hard it is to keep up with them, let alone surpass them...
quattro_rs said:
If 2gb is not necessary on a phone, then explain having a quad core phone?
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Will your car also have more performance when you go to the gas station and fill it at max rather than half? Thats what this thread is about
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If more RAM doesn't matter, then why do I get booted out of Tintin and other heavy gameloft games whilst having had to run other program before the games were started? The only way to play without the game crashing is first be clearing cache. Would it be low RAM, Samsung's fault(no good optimizations), or gameloft's fault(no good optimizations)?
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If more RAM doesn't matter, then why do I get booted out of Tintin and other heavy gameloft games whilst having had to run other program before the games were started? The only way to play without the game crashing is first be clearing cache. Would it be low RAM, Samsung's fault(no good optimizations), or gameloft's fault(no good optimizations)?
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I would say both in my experience games from gameloft are always having poor support for samsung devices, and many other also
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I'm just saying having more ram would make the gs3 more future proof especially when games and apps get bigger and better and more resource hungry, plus ram is cheap and it wouldn't hurt adding 1 more gb......
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