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I've owned a bunch of HTC phones but have been having issues with my new HTC Rezound. Whenever I exit certain applications the stock launcher reloads and displays the HTC Splash Screen. Seems to happen most often with Draw Something (but does happen with other apps as well). Anyone else have a similar issue or know of a fix?
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I am actually surprised to say this but I am going to say it (knocks on wood) anyway. I know exactly the issue you are speaking of with sense phones in general. have had it happen tons of times on phones from the Droid Eris, to Incredible 1 & 2, TBolt, and they have all done this. I am into week 2 of my rezound and haven't seen it once. {walks away and launcher redraws}.
Are you running any tweaks or mods like the leedroid tweaks?
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I've owned a bunch of HTC phones but have been having issues with my new HTC Rezound. Whenever I exit certain applications the stock launcher reloads and displays the HTC Splash Screen. Seems to happen most often with Draw Something (but does happen with other apps as well). Anyone else have a similar issue or know of a fix?
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On my Incredible, I used V6 Supercharger to prevent this (and it worked amazingly well!).
I have V6 on my Rezound, and in the 30+ days I've had it, I've had exactly one re-draw of the launcher, and I really think that was my fault. Check it out!
V6 Supercharger
Thanks for the input. Mine is totally bone stock...I just received it yesterday. On my Incredible it would happen once in a great while. On the Rezound it happens almost consistently. And I wouldn't mind if it didn't take the launcher so long to recover.
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Thanks for the input. Mine is totally bone stock...I just received it yesterday. On my Incredible it would happen once in a great while. On the Rezound it happens almost consistently. And I wouldn't mind if it didn't take the launcher so long to recover.
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When sense does that it either has run out of Memory or forced closed
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I figured as much. But that means I'm constantly out of memory which is odd for a bone stock phone. I even turned off back ground processes that might have been sucking up memory. It's bad enough that it makes me want to return the phone.
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I figured as much. But that means I'm constantly out of memory which is odd for a bone stock phone. I even turned off back ground processes that might have been sucking up memory. It's bad enough that it makes me want to return the phone.
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It could be a memory leak in an app. If you notice it happening with a particular app try uninstalling it and see how it runs.
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I've turned off fast boot and cpu timelines which has seemed to help thus far. Worse case I guess I could just restore the phone and reinstall one app at a time. Main culprit definitely seems to be Draw Something though.
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I've turned off fast boot and cpu timelines which has seemed to help thus far. Worse case I guess I could just restore the phone and reinstall one app at a time. Main culprit definitely seems to be Draw Something though.
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Have you checked to see how much memory draw something uses? I know that words with friends is a memory hog.
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Good call. Draw Something uses 72MB which is nearly twice as much as other average apps. In fact I would argue that it's almost unacceptable. I still can't believe the launcher wouldn't have a higher memory priority over other user apps though.
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I noticed this happens when I use Scramble With Friends. It used about 130 MB of memory. Sometimes more so I uninstalled it. Sense uses about the same amount of memory. I think because the phone gets low on memory it shuts down Sense because it is using lots of memory. Seems ridiculous that this happens, but it does.
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Sense 3.5 takes up a ton of memory so when its not used and other programs require more ram sense is unloaded. Once you go back to the home screen it has to be reloaded.
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Draw Something, Facebook, Any of those games and whatnot constantly streaming data, seem to decide to use all your ram for no reason. I like ICS for the reason that now you can close stuff when your done with it
So when ICS rolls out with Sense 3.6 they'll hopefully have this fixed. I bought this phone for Sense and I'm just amazed how fickle it seems this far.
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I noticed this happens when I use Scramble With Friends. It used about 130 MB of memory. Sometimes more so I uninstalled it. Sense uses about the same amount of memory. I think because the phone gets low on memory it shuts down Sense because it is using lots of memory. Seems ridiculous that this happens, but it does.
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That's half the answer the problem is the ram is supposed to dump the apps from the ram in order of least important but for some reason the sense launcher drops to a less important level when not in use (to give back more ram I guess). Like many people have said V6 will fix this problem and is super easy to use so I would give that a try is a great script.
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Ya I'm definitely thinking about trying that out. But it requires root doesn't it? Not sure I'm ready to sacrifice my warranty just yet. I wish I could just reprioritize Sense in system settings.
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Ya I'm definitely thinking about trying that out. But it requires root doesn't it? Not sure I'm ready to sacrifice my warranty just yet. I wish I could just reprioritize Sense in system settings.
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I'm pretty sure they still take back rooted phones
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As long as you restore it back to stock right. Lol.
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Ya I'm definitely thinking about trying that out. But it requires root doesn't it? Not sure I'm ready to sacrifice my warranty just yet. I wish I could just reprioritize Sense in system settings.
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They don't even care about that lol. Replaced my rooted Incredible, no problem!
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Hey guys. I am a bit worried. The phone seems to be running fine but my RAM is constantly bellow 250 MB... I am killing everything possible and constantly using advanced task killer but still. I even saw a point where I had 90mb ram left... sometimes I can see that temple run also runs choppy. I find this extremely strange ... any help would be appreciated ...
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damn dude just use the search button!!! there are a lot of same posts!
Stop using f*ckin advanced task killer.
It hasn't been needed since 2.1.
It does more harm than good.
250mb free ram is fine, touchwiz likes ram, deal with it.
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Stop using f*ckin advanced task killer.
It hasn't been needed since 2.1.
It does more harm than good.
250mb free ram is fine, touchwiz likes ram, deal with it.
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This..
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jojo_angelov said:
Hey guys. I am a bit worried. The phone seems to be running fine but my RAM is constantly bellow 250 MB... I am killing everything possible and constantly using advanced task killer but still. I even saw a point where I had 90mb ram left... sometimes I can see that temple run also runs choppy. I find this extremely strange ... any help would be appreciated ...
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Have you tried de-bloating your phone? It would also be good to disable application that auto-starts.
Hey. You don't have to worry about the available RAM being low. Android manages RAM usage differently than most other Operating Systems like OSX and Windows. Essentially, having RAM used up in Android is good because it caches apps in the background which allows you to have fluid multitasking.
If you are worried about performance then the best thing to do would be to install an app called Watchdog. This app will monitor the CPU usage of apps. These truly affect the performance of the phone. In general though don't worry about the RAM. And whatever you do, don't use a Task Killer for RAM purposes. This can be damaging because it can corrupt files and processes and inevitably cause more harm than good.
Hope that helps
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Yep, 3rd party memory management sw use more power than they save so uninstall it at your earliest convenience please As you know ICS handles memory beautifuly. IT clears memory as needed so don't waste your time on memory-peeping and enjoy your phone
Thanks for the fast reply guys . I just removed the task manager . Did not know that it actually does more harm than help. How can I stop applications from autorstarting? Also I can't remove the bloatware unless a root the phone which at this point I am not that interested in doing ...
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Thanks for the fast reply guys . I just removed the task manager . Did not know that it actually does more harm than help. How can I stop applications from autorstarting? Also I can't remove the bloatware unless a root the phone which at this point I am not that interested in doing ...
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You cannot stop apps from autostarting without root.
You do not need root to remove bloatware.
Go to settings and apps, and then click on what you don't want and disable it.
how about this, this is really worst, i don,t have much bloatware running, still ram is very low
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there are threads with options for this.
ROOTED anyway.
edit your build prop, change the delvik heap size to 128....freed up ram for me, though i honestly dont need it. i only have around 100mgb of free ram and my phone still multie tasks like a champ.
but there are options.
The story about ram management being different on android or linux is a common explanation used with regard to why ram consumption is not something to be worried about, but it is not entirely true. The truth is, ram and cpu speed work hand in hand. If your ram is full, then the cpu has to constantly open and close background processes, and this will slow the phone down if the cpu is slow. For example, on the Galaxy S, the phone starts to lag when ram falls below 100mb. However, there is no such problem on the Galaxy S3. This is due to the quad core cpu which is able to open and close processes fast enough that there is no noticeable lag. With that said, ram consumption is nothing to be worried about on multi-core phones, despite the fact that it was a problem on older single core phones. The only way the ram on the Galaxy S3 would be limited enough to cause problems is if a single app or process requires more than the 780mb available, which is extremely unlikely.
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The story about ram management being different on android or linux is a common explanation used with regard to why ram consumption is not something to be worried about, but it is not entirely true. The truth is, ram and cpu speed work hand in hand. If your ram is full, then the cpu has to constantly open and close background processes, and this will slow the phone down if the cpu is slow. For example, on the Galaxy S, the phone starts to lag when ram falls below 100mb. However, there is no such problem on the Galaxy S3. This is due to the quad core cpu which is able to open and close processes fast enough that there is no noticeable lag. With that said, ram consumption is nothing to be worried about on multi-core phones, despite the fact that it was a problem on older single core phones. The only way the ram on the Galaxy S3 would be limited enough to cause problems is if a single app or process requires more than the 780mb available, which is extremely unlikely.
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This is assuming that what the cpu is processing is not in RAM, which is the point of it anyway
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I also think that RAM is not the issue, although I just read that Samsung is planning to increase RAM to 2GB even for the European Models because of Jelly Bean consuming more RAM than expected...
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I also think that RAM is not the issue, although I just read that Samsung is planning to increase RAM to 2GB even for the European Models because of Jelly Bean consuming more RAM than expected...
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That is false. The US versions have 2GB of RAM because of their processor using more RAM. Jellybean runs just fine on the Galaxy nexus with 1GB of RAM and only a dual core processor.
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I also think that RAM is not the issue, although I just read that Samsung is planning to increase RAM to 2GB even for the European Models because of Jelly Bean consuming more RAM than expected...
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That's bull****.
People need to stop spreading this retarded rumour from the verge.
Your version of the story is after taking on new facts as well, this is like Chinese whispers.
The nexus s is getting it, the nexus s has 512mb of ram of which 360mb is usable.
End. Of. Story.
I have JB on my gnex and its using 300mb ram with 400 free and I have loads of apps open.
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That's bull****.
People need to stop spreading this retarded rumour from the verge.
Your version of the story is after taking on new facts as well, this is like Chinese whispers.
The nexus s is getting it, the nexus s has 512mb of ram of which 360mb is usable.
End. Of. Story.
I have JB on my gnex and its using 300mb ram with 400 free and I have loads of apps open.
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The nexus s is also single core.
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The nexus s is also single core.
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Exactly!
JB will be absolutely fine on the S3.
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Unused ram is wasted ram
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Unused ram is wasted ram
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This.:good:
Everytine i switch from the stock browser or chrome to a messenging app or another app for like just a minute then when i go back to the internet it reloads the page i was on automatically. Is there any way to stop this??
Tanks
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This would be nice to know :good:
Annoying problem.
Bump
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no. not until we get kernel source from htc. its due to htc putting in stupid memory (ram) management settings so basically as soon as you leave an app it closes it. i hate this also but theres nothing we can due till htc releases some code for us (which btw should have come out long ago but for some reason they feel like pissing us off haha)
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no. not until we get kernel source from htc. its due to htc putting in stupid memory (ram) management settings so basically as soon as you leave an app it closes it. i hate this also but theres nothing we can due till htc releases some code for us (which btw should have come out long ago but for some reason they feel like pissing us off haha)
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I knew someone would come in here blaming Sense's RAM management. The problem is, Chrome still reloaded all its tabs on my rooted OG EVO when I had it running ICS, and still does the same thing on my Xoom. It seems to be the way Google programmed the app, perhaps to save up on both CPU and GPU RAM. It is annoying, but you'll probably have to bring it up on Google Play or on their discussion boards.
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I knew someone would come in here blaming Sense's RAM management. The problem is, Chrome still reloaded all its tabs on my rooted OG EVO when I had it running ICS, and still does the same thing on my Xoom. It seems to be the way Google programmed the app, perhaps to save up on both CPU and GPU RAM. It is annoying, but you'll probably have to bring it up on Google Play or on their discussion boards.
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On my older gs2 it wouldnt do that. Hopefully this is fixed soon.
I dont understand how much battery this feauture will actually save because when u go back to the app it reloads the page kind of defeating the purpose
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I knew someone would come in here blaming Sense's RAM management. The problem is, Chrome still reloaded all its tabs on my rooted OG EVO when I had it running ICS, and still does the same thing on my Xoom. It seems to be the way Google programmed the app, perhaps to save up on both CPU and GPU RAM. It is annoying, but you'll probably have to bring it up on Google Play or on their discussion boards.
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Ok so maybe its coded into chrome. doesn't explain why it happens in the stock browser also or for any of the other apps that get closed as soon as you leave them. I can almost guarantee that tapatalk will reload as soon as I launch something else. It IS a problem with sense so it does deserve blame.
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Oh I'm not saying there is no Sense memory issue. It's a pretty big problem for me with playing heavier games and then having to wait for Sense to reload when I go back to the homescreen. Also coming from using my Xoom it's a bit annoying having simpler apps restart on me just because I switched apps for more than half a minute. I'm just pointing out that Chrome seems to like doing that by itself too.
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Oh I'm not saying there is no Sense memory issue. It's a pretty big problem for me with playing heavier games and then having to wait for Sense to reload when I go back to the homescreen. Also coming from using my Xoom it's a bit annoying having simpler apps restart on me just because I switched apps for more than half a minute. I'm just pointing out that Chrome seems to like doing that by itself too.<br />
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ahhh haha I thought you were implying there wasn't a sense issue for minute haha. Yeah this bugs the hell out of me. Yesterday I was typing a message here on tapatalk I left and took 1 picture. Just 1 and in the 10 seconds I was gone it closed it and I had to type it all out again
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My replacement Rez won't let me unlock so I've been playing around with stock GB for a bit. I don't know if I just had a bad experience with ICS or this phone is on crack,but its a LOT faster than I remember from my last Rez. Anyone else think its faster than the ICS leaks?
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Only before the ROM gets bogged down by 2,037 apps again.
That's the thing. I haven't frozen any apps (can't get temp root to work) and I've installed around 20 apps. Still just as fast. And, correct me if I'm wrong, but even if its a CLNR shouldn't I have to go through the initial setup?
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That's the thing. I haven't frozen any apps (can't get temp root to work) and I've installed around 20 apps. Still just as fast. And, correct me if I'm wrong, but even if its a CLNR shouldn't I have to go through the initial setup?
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I honestly do run about 100 user apps to a ROM, background processes and autostart programs can kill responsiveness. My CLNR was surprisingly fast too, still a placebo I believe.
And yes, my CLNR was like new, initial setup came up. Factory ROM too, had to download the OTA.
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I honestly do run about 100 user apps to a ROM, background processes and autostart programs can kill responsiveness. My CLNR was surprisingly fast too, still a placebo I believe.
And yes, my CLNR was like new, initial setup came up. Factory ROM too, had to download the OTA.
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I went ahead and messed around with my other Rez a bit and can say there's a difference in performance.
It didn't even try to run through the setup for me,lol.
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Okay so I have five days uptime but have noticed this since two days uptime. I dont ever restart my phone because im an uptime junkie. But when I use stock task killer and remove everything from the list im still using 1gb which doesnt help me at all. Any thoughts? I know if I reboot itll be fine but I dont want to.
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Okay so I have five days uptime but have noticed this since two days uptime. I dont ever restart my phone because im an uptime junkie. But when I use stock task killer and remove everything from the list im still using 1gb which doesnt help me at all. Any thoughts? I know if I reboot itll be fine but I dont want to.
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also forgot to mention stock unrooted locked, etc, just high ram hog. sometimes randomly when i end all tasks i can get it to go down to like 600-800mb usage. but lately no matter how many times you end it, its at like 1gb, and it sucks because phones 1.75gb ram, and when i open a few things it starts to get really slow because theres not much free to play with.
what does it matter? you have 1.75gb available and your using 1.11 so it leave you with 640mb free... No matter if there is 1gb free or 640mb you wont be able to tell the difference performance wise since you have more than enough ram to cover it. If you want about bunch of extra ram just laying around not being used then try a aosp rom, but you will lose all the fancy touchwiz features.
I use fast reboot. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greatbytes.fastreboot it works pretty good for me
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Okay so I have five days uptime but have noticed this since two days uptime. I dont ever restart my phone because im an uptime junkie. But when I use stock task killer and remove everything from the list im still using 1gb which doesnt help me at all. Any thoughts? I know if I reboot itll be fine but I dont want to.
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Touchwiz is a pig.
That app doesn't do anything for me. Stock killer works the same. Kill and 1gb in use
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As I said before, Touchwiz is a pig. You can clear ram in task manager all day long and literally watch the usage climb as it restarts services and apps you killed (and shouldn't have).
Touchwiz is a bigger pig than even Sense. We literally have 1gb less of internal storage than the Droid DNA, and they have the same amount of carrier crapware.
You have 2gb of ram, so I don't see the issue. Unused ram is wasted ram. You clearly aren't running out of ram, so what does it matter? The same amount of electricity powers unused ram as used.
I say this because I notice when using snote with spen its really laggy sometimes because I have like no ram available and gotta kill apps.
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I say this because I notice when using snote with spen its really laggy sometimes because I have like no ram available and gotta kill apps.
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The thing is, according to the task mangler you aren't out of ram, per this thread.
My ram usage at any given time is close to 1.3gb and higher. I have no lagginess in the s-pen. So if you are sitting at 1gb free and having issues with the s-pen, I'd look elsewhere to your problem.
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The thing is, according to the task mangler you aren't out of ram, per this thread.
My ram usage at any given time is close to 1.3gb and higher. I have no lagginess in the s-pen. So if you are sitting at 1gb free and having issues with the s-pen, I'd look elsewhere to your problem.
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your use is that high because the rom itself is, same as on a computer. wanna lessen it rom the phone, ive never seen my phone lag.
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your use is that high because the rom itself is, same as on a computer. wanna lessen it rom the phone, ive never seen my phone lag.
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I never said I saw phone lag???