I am waiting patiently for the offical JB update to be released before I decide to root or not, if it still runs slow as snot I will consider rooting. But before I do, does any one know if it is possible to reinstall the S-Pen suite of apps on a custom ROM? Or would I just have to find 3rd party apps that would let me use my S-Pen again?
Glad you asked, I have the same question. I"m currently running CM10 with no major issues and wanted to check out the other apps that are S-Pen friendly.
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Glad you asked, I have the same question. I"m currently running CM10 with no major issues and wanted to check out the other apps that are S-Pen friendly.
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I found this when I was looking to see if by some happy chance the S Memo and S Note apps showed up on the play store.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ngarside.memo&hl=en
I am in nearly an identical position as you. I was holding off on root until JB. (I have rooted all of my other devices in the past). However in my case I gave up and rooted.... I found an app on the Note II forums for auto detecting if the s-pen was in its slot, and then changing the input method accordingly. (It did not work, and I think it is because the s-pen detection in the holder slot on the Note I, at least my copy, sucks).. but I digress...
I accidentally, having nothing to do with root, locked up my device, so I had to go into recovery and re-load the ROM/Factory Reset.
So I decided to try out a few roms... I have never been happier. The difference is night and day. (Using flappjaxxx stock ICS rom)
IF you go to a stock modified ROM, then you will maintain S-Pen. The key is to go with a stock based ROM. If you go with something ported off of another device then i don't know.
My advice, take the plunge, root, modified stock ROM and then see what JB brings. If it is anything like the past, you won't want JB. You will want the JB stock modified ROM. (Best of both worlds)
Your s pen will work on any Rom, whether it's
Touch wiz based or not. What you loose by using a non TW based Rom besides TW specific apps is the special functions like hold screen for screen cap, or double tap to bring up memo. Besides that the s pen works.
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That is what I was wondering, has any one managed to like rip the apk for S Note or S Memo that we could sideload?
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That is what I was wondering, has any one managed to like rip the apk for S Note or S Memo that we could sideload?
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Only if the rom is touchwiz compatible. I'm using jellybeer. Awesome ROM but to touchwiz
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OK, so if you want touchwiz, there is a chance you could still use Samsung S Pen apps on a custom ROM... OK. That answers it pretty well, I should investigate third party S Pen apps before rooting and going to custom stock based ROM. I hope the JB update makes the Note run a lot better and not eat my RAM like a fat kid in Willy wonkas factory, so I don't have to worry about it lol
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OK, so if you want touchwiz, there is a chance you could still use Samsung S Pen apps on a custom ROM... OK. That answers it pretty well, I should investigate third party S Pen apps before rooting and going to custom stock based ROM. I hope the JB update makes the Note run a lot better and not eat my RAM like a fat kid in Willy wonkas factory, so I don't have to worry about it lol
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Check out black star XI. It has touchwiz with s pen apps. Or just about any custom stock ROM.
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who doesn't want an AOSP rom?
I also really don't care about an ICS release - though I'll happily take it, stock and rooted.
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who doesn't want an AOSP rom?
I also really don't care about an ICS release - though I'll happily take it, stock and rooted.
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When the ICS kernel is ready, you can flash the i9100 stock ICS rom.
I'll probably try it out at the very least. I think I'm addicted to flashing.
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I'll probably try it out at the very least. I think I'm addicted to flashing.
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Honestly, I think I'm over the whole constantly flashing thing. I want my phone to just work.
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who doesn't want an AOSP rom?
I also really don't care about an ICS release - though I'll happily take it, stock and rooted.
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I just don't like thw TW launcher as much. It's good, don't get me wrong, but I wish it had more flexibility. TW 4.5 has some of those, but then it lacks some from the official TW3.
Other wise, I like some of the other additions by Samsung. Specially the changes in Clock and Contacts.
So now I am aiming for stock i9100 + Nova/Apex launcher
Wow... just...wow....how can you have Android phone, and just want a phone that just works? Just curious case my phone is my computer,TV. Dvr ....everything
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You maybe the only one lol
If you want a phone that just works get a Startac...
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I like Samsung based over aosp based too. But development on both fronts helps make for an overall better experience for anyone who likes flashing and tinkering with there phone.
As far as tw launcher, it has gotten allot better, but no matter whether I run asop based or Samsung based I always seem to find my way to go launcher or adw.
Once ics is working well enough for me to keep it on my phone longer than a day or two, I'm going to spend some time checking out the nova launcher.
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I love aosp roms. Guess this thread isn't for me :-(
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who doesn't want an AOSP rom?
I also really don't care about an ICS release - though I'll happily take it, stock and rooted.
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I partially agree. I don't really care about ICS, but I'll probably update to it when it comes out. I am perfectly happy with the setup I have now. I dont't understand why people are acting like they "need" it.
I also like AOSP and its simplicity, but I love the media format support provided by Samsung roms. Full 1080p wmv's @ 10mbps? Yes please. I don't care for Touchwiz launcher itself though.
And I can't live without allshare
I might be crazy but if a rom has it removed on install I will instantly flash another rom with it.
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I find you need a balance between constantly flashing and having a functional device.
For me it goes in spurts.
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Wow... just...wow....how can you have Android phone, and just want a phone that just works?
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How can you have an Android phone, or any device really, that DOESN'T just work? You like having something that's constantly broken?
Just curious case my phone is my computer,TV. Dvr ....everything
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My phone is a communication device primarily, a personal organizer and music source for my truck, and sometimes light gaming device.
It'll never replace my desktop, and it'll never replace my HTPC + 55" Samsung LED SmartTV. I just can't stand watching video on such a small screen.
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You maybe the only one lol
If you want a phone that just works get a Startac...
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I like all the advanced things my phone can do, I just want every feature to always work, 100% of the time.
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How can you have an Android phone, or any device really, that DOESN'T just work? You like having something that's constantly broken?
My phone is a communication device primarily, a personal organizer and music source for my truck, and sometimes light gaming device.
It'll never replace my desktop, and it'll never replace my HTPC + 55" Samsung LED SmartTV. I just can't stand watching video on such a small screen.
I like all the advanced things my phone can do, I just want every feature to always work, 100% of the time.
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1.) Flashing ROMs doesn't mean one's device doesn't work. It simply means they want a change from stock/whatever they decide to change from.
2.) Flashing ROMs doesn't disable your device as a communication platform. AOSP based ROMs (With ICS, at least) have a better calendar, camera application, and are compatible with virtually every app you currently have now.
3.) Not trying to sound like a ****, but if you just want it to work and aren't concerned with flashing the ROM or anything, why are you on XDA Developers?
I hate it, is fugly,, I love touchwiz
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I hate it, is fugly,, I love touchwiz
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This is the first time I've ever head of anyone liking the look of TouchWiz over the Holo theme for ICS...
Hey now. TWlauncher grew on me too. When I got my new phone launcherpro didn't make it back on.
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I hate it, is fugly,, I love touchwiz
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absolutely agree 100%
I want ics with ics colors, ics lock, ics wallpapers, rings and sounds that don't list twice, and functional camera. no one can fix music quality so forget that. I don't think I'm asking much but some disagree.
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I want ics with ics colors, ics lock, ics wallpapers, rings and sounds that don't list twice, and functional camera. no one can fix music quality so forget that. I don't think I'm asking much but some disagree.
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You don't stop do you? These devs work for FREE and they work as hard as they can, not everything is easy to fix just be patient and stop disrespecting the devs
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What do I have to do to get rid of the Samsung and att crap. Keep spen features and benefits and get tweaks from aokp and other various roms. The only reason I stay stock is because hybrid is messy and aosp loses all the features I bought the phone for. Any takers? I know its complicated if not impossible but can you explain what would need to happen here?
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What do I have to do to get rid of the Samsung and att crap. Keep spen features and benefits and get tweaks from aokp and other various roms. The only reason I stay stock is because hybrid is messy and aosp loses all the features I bought the phone for. Any takers? I know its complicated if not impossible but can you explain what would need to happen here?
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Not to sound like a butt. But be pateint there are a lot of great devs and app biilders working on getting spen working properly on aosp and cm9. But in the mean time there are plenty of great roms that are debloated att crap gone and have all the spen features working.just need to read the op and pick which one sounds like what you want Flappjaxxx has a great rom out its le2 based debloated and spen features work.
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What do I have to do to get rid of the Samsung and att crap. Keep spen features and benefits and get tweaks from aokp and other various roms. The only reason I stay stock is because hybrid is messy and aosp loses all the features I bought the phone for. Any takers? I know its complicated if not impossible but can you explain what would need to happen here?
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Im no developer but Im pretty sure once official ICS is released and source is out it wont be long before that is possible but we'll see but yea like fezzy said there are plenty of great ROMS here already Flappjaxxx and Appdroid both have great stock ROMS that are debloated with all the touchwiz features available check em out
im using Papyrus and Memo for spen tw apps, image editing im using snaptastic on Paranoid android. I thought i would really miss some functionalities but so far so good, note running like a champ
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I was under the impression that Samsung had released source for.the spen so im wondering when we will see custom shortcuts for the spen and the ability to use like stock Rom on aosp. Im just wondering if the day will ever come.
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I was under the impression that Samsung had released source for.the spen so im wondering when we will see custom shortcuts for the spen and the ability to use like stock Rom on aosp. Im just wondering if the day will ever come.
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They have to release te source for ICS thats what the developers need
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I was under the impression that Samsung had released source for.the spen so im wondering when we will see custom shortcuts for the spen and the ability to use like stock Rom on aosp. Im just wondering if the day will ever come.
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The S-Pen app has nothing to with having source or not. The problem is those apps from the stock rom need the TouchWiz framework.
So we would need to rebuild framework compatible cross launcher for aosp?
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I bought my father the note (he had the s2 before) a fee weeks ago. I had installed aokp on his s2 before but when now, I installed black star which has all the stock touch wiz features that me and my dad remember from when we first got our phones. I want him to run the aokp jb ROM but he loves that ROM too much (but its too laggy)
I was able to install one of those touchwiz themes... but that's not what I'm looking for I'm looking for the specific apps especially the phone. Sammy really did a great job with the phone. I'd love the built in task manager but that's probably too much to ask for.. any idea his I can get the touchwiz apps on a aokp rom? Phone, messaging.. music maybe..
Thanks a million
They don't work on aokp roms. Must be a touchwiz based rom. There are replacements for the apps such as gnote for smemo or memo beta from the play store.
As for black star being laggy I think you should check how you flashed and be sure you followed the proper flashing procedures in the OP of that thread. It is a very good rom. It runs fast for me and many others.
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Some how a dev in the N7000 thread has managed to put snote premium suite on his miui rom so maybe in the future we will have it for other TW phones like the i717.
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I figured it was only a matter of time before someone figured out how to put the s-pen apps on non TW roms. I woukd think that would make them more appealing to many other people that stick with stock because of the apps.
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yea I hope we see it on our note soon they have it with miuirocket rom which is a asop derivative.
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I bought my father the note (he had the s2 before) a fee weeks ago. I had installed aokp on his s2 before but when now, I installed black star which has all the stock touch wiz features that me and my dad remember from when we first got our phones. I want him to run the aokp jb ROM but he loves that ROM too much (but its too laggy)
I was able to install one of those touchwiz themes... but that's not what I'm looking for I'm looking for the specific apps especially the phone. Sammy really did a great job with the phone. I'd love the built in task manager but that's probably too much to ask for.. any idea his I can get the touchwiz apps on a aokp rom? Phone, messaging.. music maybe..
Thanks a million
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I tried blackstar rom and it really wasnt my cup of tea also not saying its bad just wasn't for me. Anyhow If ur looking for an stock tw features rom that not laggy I would try the Padawan Rom very fast very smooth, its running Ics u still get to keep your premium suite but also have aokp/jb apps n features like Google now, awesome beats and Apollo...
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Good morning all youz. I am receiving my Gnote2 (verizon) today from swappa. OK, it is rooted and unlocked. It has Keen put back to stock but still rooted and unlocked. Couple of different things. I thought about taken Tibu files I have on my gnex save them on laptop and then transfer it to gnote. Is that 'correct thinking'?
Also,since it is on stock and I have been reading in all the forums about NOT taking the OTA. I am a crackflasher so I get that the roms have the ota in them. So what is the best rom 'in someones opinion's (winkwink)out there. I definitely need wifi wireless hotspot (not detected) so I can use my tablet anywhere.
Thanks.
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Good morning all youz. I am receiving my Gnote2 (verizon) today from swappa. OK, it is rooted and unlocked. It has Keen put back to stock but still rooted and unlocked. Couple of different things. I thought about taken Tibu files I have on my gnex save them on laptop and then transfer it to gnote. Is that 'correct thinking'?
Also,since it is on stock and I have been reading in all the forums about NOT taking the OTA. I am a crackflasher so I get that the roms have the ota in them. So what is the best rom 'in someones opinion's (winkwink)out there. I definitely need wifi wireless hotspot (not detected) so I can use my tablet anywhere.
Thanks.
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From what I understand you can take the folders from Tibu and move them to a new phone, but I dont know if everything will work. Its always best to just download all the apps, from the Play Store or whatever other app stores you use, in my opinion. Some apps may not work and may cause issues on your rom, ultimately its your choice though. If you have problems you could go back to a nandroid and then download the apps from the app market.
As for good roms.... Well that depends on if you want to stay on TW, for the S-pen and various other features, or if you want AOSP.
If you want TW I would suggest CleanRom ACE or Beans, CR is always updated to the latest update with a crapload of features packed in and has an Aroma installer so you can choose exactly what apps and mods you want. Beans is a AOSP themed TW rom with a crapload of stuff packed in too and has a bunch of mods that you can flash after the rom. I prefer Scotts CleanRom ACE but it is really up to you as to whether you would have the AOSP theme or go with the way stock TW looks.
As for AOSP I would suggest Vanilla Rootbox or ParanoidAndroid. Those are my 2 favorites and the list of new stuff on them is huge so I am not going to type that out. The downside with AOSP is you lose the special S-pen features and the special apps like S-note. You can add the majority of S-pen features back to AOSP with an app name GMD Spen Control from the Play store, its a little pricey but is most definitely worth it because it even adds new S-pen features to TW.
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WOW!
Thank you very much for A LOT of information. More information then I thought I would receive. Thanks again.
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WOW!
Thank you very much for A LOT of information. More information then I thought I would receive. Thanks again.
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No problem at all. I hope you have fun!
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I recently bought a Gs4 on verizon running the latest 4.3 mk2 software and I hate touchwiz. Its just so packed with useless stuff that makes the phone slow. Since I cannot install a custom recovery on this phone I was thinking of trading it for an lg g2 and wiping the os and installing kit kat on it from cyanogen mod. What do you guys think should I do the trade?
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I recently bought a Gs4 on verizon running the latest 4.3 mk2 software and I hate touchwiz. Its just so packed with useless stuff that makes the phone slow. Since I cannot install a custom recovery on this phone I was thinking of trading it for an lg g2 and wiping the os and installing kit kat on it from cyanogen mod. What do you guys think should I do the trade?
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You'll have to define "slow." My S4 on the stock unrooted ROM was not what I'd consider to be slow. Rooted on Hyperdrive, it is not slow. I had a Blackberry Storm. That was slow.
KitKat is scheduled to be released this month or next for this phone. I would imagine that our devs will have custom ROMS fairly quickly afterward, if there's not a leak released before.
You might be better posting your question in the G2 forum. You'll probably find more people there with experience on both phones.
There are a lot of nice ROMS for safestrap users... I'm on MK2 ..currently running foxhound diamond dogs and eclipse. Both are pretty close to a aosp experience ( I also despise touchwiz)
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There are a lot of nice ROMS for safestrap users... I'm on MK2 ..currently running foxhound diamond dogs and eclipse. Both are pretty close to a aosp experience ( I also despise touchwiz)
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I agree with charliepan69. I would safestrap flash a ROM before making the switch
I would keep my S4. LG sucks. The LG g2 looks nice but I'm sure there isn't much development for that device. Pretty soon I'm sure someone will figure out how to flash aosp roms. I remember running safestrap when I had the DROID RAZR and devs made aosp roms compatible with safestrap
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I would keep my S4. LG sucks. The LG g2 looks nice but I'm sure there isn't much development for that device. Pretty soon I'm sure someone will figure out how to flash aosp roms. I remember running safestrap when I had the DROID RAZR and devs made aosp roms compatible with safestrap
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I'm with you there... I had the RAZR too. I've thought about the g2 a few times as well and just couldn't do it. By the sounds of it kexec for SafeStrap may be close to coming out and that would change everything. There were a ton of aosp ROMs for the razr I'm sure the s4 will have even more. I couldn't wait myself that's why I just got rid of the mj7 s4.
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Touchwiz does suck
Just throw a different launcher on it. I'm running Apex pro. It's quick... usually have between 700 and 800 megs free memory. Not exactly what I'd call a slow phone. I looked at getting the G2 when I got this S4. Very happy with the choice.
Another good point. I use Nova on any an all ROMs I use. I'd say apex an Nova would be the two to choose from in my opinion
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Definitely safestrap it and stick with the S4 for now.....
S4 slow? You must've been using Nova, apex, or whatever launcher people use nowadays. My stock unrooted is screaming fast...
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S4 slow? You must've been using Nova, apex, or whatever launcher people use nowadays. My stock unrooted is screaming fast...
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Nova launcher flies. Faster than stock I think many would agree
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Nova launcher flies. Faster than stock I think many would agree
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No way, there's a huge delay in touch response when tapping an icon. I guess I'm one of the only ones who can notice that. I even bought the prime version a while back and don't use it because I can't stand the lag.
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No way, there's a huge delay in touch response when tapping an icon. I guess I'm one of the only ones who can notice that. I even bought the prime version a while back and don't use it because I can't stand the lag.
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I do not experience that with nova. Although I'll agree stock launcher is faster just because it was optimized for the phone, especially with animations off, but nova is plenty fast and worth having real control over the lajncher
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No way, there's a huge delay in touch response when tapping an icon. I guess I'm one of the only ones who can notice that. I even bought the prime version a while back and don't use it because I can't stand the lag.
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Well I really think it depends on the ROM... and the settings etc. As well.
I'm running Liquid Smooth with Nova right now. and I have no delay at all with touch response and it was so fast I ended up slowing things down a little so I could enjoy the animations from xuimod as well.
Like I said it depends if u ask me.
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You must have too much apps running, hold down on the home button for like 3 second and then let go. Close all of the apps you don't need by swiping them to the side. Then see how fast your s4 is. I had my s4 for at least 3 month now, still as fast as out the box (until i rooted and flashed it, now it's even faster with greenify).