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I have a NS4G, and am switching from Sprint so I'll need a new phone. I'm looking into either the Amaze 4G, Sensation, or Galaxy S II. I want a phone that has a good developer community, as the two previous phones I had were fairly active in that regard.
I saw that the Amaze 4G Dev forum is looking like all the roms are Sense based. Is this an temporary thing or is the dev support just not there? (Or is the phone locked down enough to make it difficult?)
Anyway I would greatly appreciate some I put on this!
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Go for the sensation. I have a galaxy s two and the amaze and the dev community is almost non existent. Had a sensation and they got lots of stuff over there.
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Hello, I am new to the forum but do have the HTC Amaze 4G. While HTC does provide the tools for unlocking the bootloader, they do not allow for S-OFF (Security OFF). And it is because of this (for the most part) that developing for the HTC Amaze is limited ATM.
mrmylanman said:
I have a NS4G, and am switching from Sprint so I'll need a new phone. I'm looking into either the Amaze 4G, Sensation, or Galaxy S II. I want a phone that has a good developer community, as the two previous phones I had were fairly active in that regard.
I saw that the Amaze 4G Dev forum is looking like all the roms are Sense based. Is this an temporary thing or is the dev support just not there? (Or is the phone locked down enough to make it difficult?)
Anyway I would greatly appreciate some I put on this!
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the amaze is not for u then.
mrmylanman said:
I have a NS4G, and am switching from Sprint so I'll need a new phone. I'm looking into either the Amaze 4G, Sensation, or Galaxy S II. I want a phone that has a good developer community, as the two previous phones I had were fairly active in that regard.
I saw that the Amaze 4G Dev forum is looking like all the roms are Sense based. Is this an temporary thing or is the dev support just not there? (Or is the phone locked down enough to make it difficult?)
Anyway I would greatly appreciate some I put on this!
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Temp - hopefully.
Dev support - we only have one developer that actually has the phone. To top it off he's only 16 and still in high school.
We have the source but not the entire kernel source (thanks to HTC and their technicalities)
Still don't have s-off so we can't flash kernels via recovery thus makes flashing roms that much more difficult.
So if you want a good phone to use as a daily driver and don't care about tweaking and boosting... this is the phone for you!
If you immediately want fully working ICS, Sense 3.5, CM9, AOSP, etc then go with another device.
Do we see this happening in the future? If more developers were to pickup the device then maybe. But not anytime soon.
Bottom line if you want a device that has a HUGE selection of roms that you can do pretty much anything with... this isn't the phone for you. Not yet anyway.
Anyone know if there's any word on whether S-Off is coming? I thought I heard HTC announcing the days of S-On being forced are over.
I'd rather get the better phone. Hope that dev support comes.
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Agreed with Binary.
From what you've posted this doesn't sound like the phone that will suit you. However, in the long-run it could suit you better maybe?
I doubt this forum will ever pick up. Most people who wanted a phone like this bought the sensation, and this phone is not a big enough of an upgrade from that. So most will just wait till the next gen.
Thanks for the responses. I think I am going to go with the Amaze after all, and deal with Sense. Apparently it'll get ICS at some point regardless, which will be nice. I am pretty good with Linux so I might work on my own development if I get some free time (going back to college to finish up my bachelors degree so I'm not so sure about that part).
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I doubt this forum will ever pick up. Most people who wanted a phone like this bought the sensation, and this phone is not a big enough of an upgrade from that. So most will just wait till the next gen.
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I definitely agree. Everyone that I know that bought this phone after having the Sensation ended up having buyers remorse. The phones seem very similiar to eachother and we all expected them to be pretty much the same. However we later found out that they are nothing alike on the inside. Different partitions, different software, different securities, etc. This phone is actually kind of a PITA for developers despite how HTC claims to be "developer friendly" and all that other nonsense.
If you stick with the Amaze then try beast, its pretty damn close to AOSP, or at least as close as we can have for now
Binary100100 said:
I definitely agree. Everyone that I know that bought this phone after having the Sensation ended up having buyers remorse. The phones seem very similiar to eachother and we all expected them to be pretty much the same. However we later found out that they are nothing alike on the inside. Different partitions, different software, different securities, etc. This phone is actually kind of a PITA for developers despite how HTC claims to be "developer friendly" and all that other nonsense.
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This is the first phone where I had to use the htc unlocking method and am SHOCKED that is not as open as they made it out to be. Keeping s on? What the hell was the point then? I can see where it would benefit developers, but as far as supporting xda type communities, its an epic fail while giving us false hope in all those press releases how they "heard" the enthusiast community and wanted to be more open.
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i hated always have 150mb of RAM or lower, but your ns4g has 2xxmb less so you are probably used to it.
Yeah I have been less of an enthusiast lately since the dev community sorta dried up on the NS4G the past couple weeks.
Its fine. I have less free time now than I used to anyway
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well i think we will be getting aosp ics with the team of people im working with its just a matter of when
xboarder56 said:
well i think we will be getting aosp ics with the team of people im working with its just a matter of when
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as borat would say:
high five!!!! i like!!!
xboarder56 said:
well i think we will be getting aosp ics with the team of people im working with its just a matter of when
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqf1BmN4Dag&feature=related
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqf1BmN4Dag&feature=related
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hahaha
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xboarder56 said:
well i think we will be getting aosp ics with the team of people im working with its just a matter of when
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Excellent news! I saw that almost all the active development threads are by you, you're keeping mighty busy it seems! Looks like a lot of work, that's really cool of you.
mrmylanman said:
Excellent news! I saw that almost all the active development threads are by you, you're keeping mighty busy it seems! Looks like a lot of work, that's really cool of you.
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That would be because he's the only developer that has the phone.
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Which roms are able to run on a 4G lte 10.1? Im very confused. Also, where do I get these trendy hubs?
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CreationArt said:
Which roms are able to run on a 4G lte 10.1? Im very confused. Also, where do I get these trendy hubs?
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I went through the same thing... it appears as if none of the ICS roms support LTE..
If you are in need of your mobile data because you are on contract with Verizon there is NO ROM that you can use. At best all you can do is root it, install pershoot's kernel and customize manually. Those of us on contact are all in the same boat, many for nearly a year now waiting for ICS drivers that support the modem. If you don't need the modem then use one of the CM9 or AOKP ones that specify vzw.
Even after drivers are oficially released dont expect a lot in terms of custom ROM support for the SCH-i905 though, there simply arent any developers building for it. AOKP should be all we need though when drivers do come.
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Op... You don't get Hubs... You build it yourself...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16935458
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As for hubs, in my opinion they are more trouble than they are worth since creating them requires multiple widgets and customizations that ultimately take more memory and cause more lag. To each their own. Its fun to tinker and I did dabble a bit into trying to create my own but decided agaist it after wanting to slit my wrists rather than deal with minimalistic text's awful settings UI a moment longer LOL. Props to those with the time and patience to do it, I lack both.
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Thank you all, That answers everything. Hubs do seem like a ungodly amount of work. So I will be making my own approach at customization. Who knows what Ill end up with. And I am on contract and use my mobile data all the time. So its a necessity for me.
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muzzy996 said:
If you are in need of your mobile data because you are on contract with Verizon there is NO ROM that you can use. At best all you can do is root it, install pershoot's kernel and customize manually. Those of us on contact are all in the same boat, many for nearly a year now waiting for ICS drivers that support the modem. If you don't need the modem then use one of the CM9 or AOKP ones that specify vzw.
Even after drivers are oficially released dont expect a lot in terms of custom ROM support for the SCH-i905 though, there simply arent any developers building for it. AOKP should be all we need though when drivers do come.
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that is a very disappointing thing.. I really wish the device more closely resembled the other units.. but oh well.. its still a good tablet.
Agreed, for me this is a race between the release of ICS for this tablet or another LTE tablet on Verizon with ICS on it being released but with better hardware. would love to see the transformer infinity get LTE.
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Questions go in the Q&A section
This is the Q&A...
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I can't decide between an S3 a One X or a Nexus, the Nexus is great I love the idea behind it but the specs are too outdated, and a new nexus is just around the corner. The One X is nice, nice screen nice specs, but not completely open (Romming is VERY important to me), the S3 is a beast, massive screen, totally awesome, but how "hackable" is it, I remember reading about some developer raging at the exoynos chipset?. So I'm just wondering, do the roms all work 100% or are there missing drivers and all that crap that we android fanatics hate. And is the romming process nice and easy, root, install cwm, flash roms (From what I've read yes it is like that). S3 owners, please chime in, I need to make a decision by tonight.
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I can't decide between an S3 a One X or a Nexus, the Nexus is great I love the idea behind it but the specs are too outdated, and a new nexus is just around the corner. The One X is nice, nice screen nice specs, but not completely open (Romming is VERY important to me), the S3 is a beast, massive screen, totally awesome, but how "hackable" is it, I remember reading about some developer raging at the exoynos chipset?. So I'm just wondering, do the roms all work 100% or are there missing drivers and all that crap that we android fanatics hate. And is the romming process nice and easy, root, install cwm, flash roms (From what I've read yes it is like that). S3 owners, please chime in, I need to make a decision by tonight.
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Exynos source is bring released so the s3 is obviously the best option in terms of romming and with exynos sources due to be released they can only get better
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Are there any major problems I should know about. I know I probably sound silly but it's a lot of money for a phone
EDIT: Specifically: Camera (Video and picture), FM radio(does spirit fm work).
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JDogg1329 said:
Are there any major problems I should know about. I know I probably sound silly but it's a lot of money for a phone
EDIT: Specifically: Camera (Video and picture), FM radio(does spirit fm work).
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Read the OP of some roms to find out i myself am on paranoid android and it runs perfectly
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JDogg1329 said:
I can't decide between an S3 a One X or a Nexus, the Nexus is great I love the idea behind it but the specs are too outdated, and a new nexus is just around the corner. The One X is nice, nice screen nice specs, but not completely open (Romming is VERY important to me), the S3 is a beast, massive screen, totally awesome, but how "hackable" is it, I remember reading about some developer raging at the exoynos chipset?. So I'm just wondering, do the roms all work 100% or are there missing drivers and all that crap that we android fanatics hate. And is the romming process nice and easy, root, install cwm, flash roms (From what I've read yes it is like that). S3 owners, please chime in, I need to make a decision by tonight.
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If roms are very important to you get the new Lgnex. There's no phone like a Nex. If you like Aosp, go Nex. I have a Gnex, GS3 and a N7 and I will be selling my S3 to grab LGnex soon as its available! If you like tw or sense then go w/ others but they will never have the amount of aosp roms that a Nex has. (Kernels too) You ever own a Nexus you will get confused as to what to flash. You also have a device compatible w/ the Android Sdk , fastboot, adb which are not available on any other device and make things much easier and 100% safe. I like my S3 but im Nexus all the way!!:thumbup:
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http://androidheadlines.com/2012/10/google-and-lg-officially-announce-the-lg-nexus-4.html
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Hi, Tech Guys here!
I don't know if I'm posting in the correct category but I thought it would be the best way to decide here which device to buy. Yes, I've looked on various sites and reviews for the best mobile device out there. Surely, most of them would suggest any one of the Samsung Galaxy S4, HTC One and Xperia Z. Well, I've not found any review considering the development of the devices and I don't think I'd. Thus, I decided to post a thread here on XDA where I can easily get recommendation for it and can have my priorities considered by the techies here. At the moment, I own a Samsung Galaxy S II. The only reason I still love it is the continuous development for it. So, my kind request to all of you here is to help me decide the best phone out there - the budget is INR 40,000 ($ 800). Here are the priorities (decreasing order):
Obviously, Android! I don't want restrictions for using my own device. I want the possibility to tweak the settings. I want Custom ROMS, Apps or you can say everything what this site is made for.
The best development support - I think Samsung and Google are the best for it, no?
Battery Backup. It's fine if I can improve it noticeably with tweaks.
Storage
Hell outta performance. I was very disappointed for the reviews that said though having the best performance, S4 noticeably lags a much.
Screen with good contrast and colors. Size also matters.
I don't want to pay much for bloat.
I don't know why my heart is not letting me go against the S4. But I can make the same understand if I've your points here.
Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. Thanks to everyone.
I've also added a poll to vote for your choice.
s4 is great but one x is better suited for developing Android roms. Many roms are available for one x but s4 doesn't even have a official cyanogen
balajithegreat said:
s4 is great but one x is better suited for developing Android roms. Many roms are available for one x but s4 doesn't even have a official cyanogen
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One doesn't have a memory card slot and removable back.
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try SIII
I would wait a month, and get the S4 google edition when it comes out. You can't go wrong buying from google, and the S4 is an amazing device.
wdouglass said:
I would wait a month, and get the S4 google edition when it comes out. You can't go wrong buying from google, and the S4 is an amazing device.
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If I'm not wrong, it's S4 minus bloat?
That's what I can do with the help of xda! It would have been a cool deal if its price was less than the S4's
Correct me if I'm wrong
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Get the nexus if it is for development. It is the only line that is fully supported by AOSP.
Wayne Tech Nexus
Paras Lehana said:
If I'm not wrong, it's S4 minus bloat?
That's what I can do with the help of xda! It would have been a cool deal if its price was less than the S4's
Correct me if I'm wrong
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True, i'm just pissed at AT&T for my locked-bootloader-s4
That problem will sort itself out soon though...
zelendel said:
Get the nexus if it is for development. It is the only line that is fully supported by AOSP.
Wayne Tech Nexus
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Not released in India yet. :/
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Paras Lehana said:
Not released in India yet. :/
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Well I have had a recent dealings with some of the devices from India and to be honest if it is for Development you may end up importing. Avoid Micromax and any of the OEM that import from China. Maybe the S3 maybe a good one or the S4 If the Nexus line is not available to you. Oppo Is also working hard with developers.
zelendel said:
Well I have had a recent dealings with some of the devices from India and to be honest if it is for Development you may end up importing. Avoid Micromax and any of the OEM that import from China. Maybe the S3 maybe a good one or the S4 If the Nexus line is not available to you. Oppo Is also working hard with developers.
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Yeah, I mean the device should've nice development support but the other stuff I've mentioned in the list also matters. I'll be comparing Nexus 4 with S4 (i.e. Researching...)
it is just a question to see if there is still work and people developing the at&t version
i'm sadly saying this that i regret getting this phone, so much power yet limited development due to crappy manufacturer and carrier
Sure there is.
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ive had this phone since december and ive been following it...just recently flashed the viper rom and am pretty happy with the performance. As for AOSP and such development, it got pretty close before the dev had to abandon the device because it was taking too much of his time. hopefully the dev he sent the phone to can figure it all out soon, and hopefully if we get the Sense 5, 4.2.2 update it will help!
I bought this phone after "Exploring" the Windows Lumina phones. And STILL bought a Nexus 4 because of the development. I agree, hopefully there will be a Dev who will show mercy on us AT&T customers and port Sense 5 and 4.2. to our beloved and much hated AT&T HTC One X+ . Even though I don't use the X+ much I still check the 2 roms out there for us and use them daily for a week or two. I miss Sense *Hint Hint*
As far as I know, Steve is the only one who's been working on it. Turge has been working on the one and lloir shipped his off to a new dev but I haven't heard any updates about that but his team is still making progress on aosp
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