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Sometimes when I fling a page down like Engadget, the scrolling seems smooth until it slows down and lags for a couple frames before stopping. Is there anyway to stop this? I have flash content turned off. The same page on my Nexus just seems so much smoother. I figured a Tegra 3 would be able to handle web page rendering a bit better.
The same thing happens for Nova Launcher, when I hit the apps drawer button, sometimes my Prime will be a little choppy rendering my apps. On my Nexus, it's always super smooth.
I'm running Jermaine's AOKP build, but it happens on any ROM I've tried to flash. Is there any particular reason why this is happening?
BrianMigs said:
Sometimes when I fling a page down like Engadget, the scrolling seems smooth until it slows down and lags for a couple frames before stopping. Is there anyway to stop this? I have flash content turned off. The same page on my Nexus just seems so much smoother. I figured a Tegra 3 would be able to handle web page rendering a bit better.
The same thing happens for Nova Launcher, when I hit the apps drawer button, sometimes my Prime will be a little choppy rendering my apps. On my Nexus, it's always super smooth.
I'm running Jermaine's AOKP build, but it happens on any ROM I've tried to flash. Is there any particular reason why this is happening?
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I wonder the same thing. I use AOKP on my droid Razr and it runs like a champ (and we aren't even using an ICS kernel yet LMAO!) but I have similar issues on my prime, even clocked at 4x1.8ghz.
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benefit14snake said:
I wonder the same thing. I use AOKP on my droid Razr and it runs like a champ (and we aren't even using an ICS kernel yet LMAO!) but I have similar issues on my prime, even clocked at 4x1.8ghz.
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Yeah, I don't think it should be necessary to overclock a quad-core Tegra 3 to 1.8Ghz just for that. I have my max clock set at 1.3Ghz, or 1.5Ghz if I'm feeling adventurous
Have you guys tried another other ROM to see if the browsing is better?
I am unable to try that as I am stuck with a locked bootloader (stupid unknown s/n that never got fixed properly in the RMA).
I've seen others complain about Internet browsing and just haven't experienced problems. My only complaint with browsers on the Prime and my GNex for that matter is poor flash performance and being forced to view web pages in mobile mode. I absolutely hate that. The hardware in my GNex and especially this Prime is more than capable of rendering full HTML. This tablet is faster than my daughters Netbook and faster than one of my laptops. I wish Google and developers would get with the program and deliver a full browser experience. I've been using Dolphin with my Prime and it seems to be the better browser I've tried so far. I can at least set it up so that it operates in "desktop mode" giving me full HTML browsing; however, it's still not as good as it should be. I like Chrome. I wish Google would give us tablet users the full Chrome experience. There's no reason not to have the full and complete browser at our disposal.
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I'm beginning to think it is the Tegra 3/Nvidia optimizations. Not a good example but the HTC One X sure has a lot of browser issues.
Even though it doesn't have flash, Safari on the iphone/ipads sure are fast considering its many cores and mhz down. Software can make a big difference.
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Saw this over on the One X forum. http://eu.blizzard.com/en-gb/
The fire in Diablo ad is smooth on my exynos Galaxy S2 while its slow mo on the Prime. Just like phonearena's video of the Galaxy Nexus(fast) vs One X(slow).
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I'm beginning to think it is the Tegra 3/Nvidia optimizations. Not a good example but the HTC One X sure has a lot of browser issues.
Even though it doesn't have flash, Safari on the iphone/ipads sure are fast considering its many cores and mhz down. Software can make a big difference.
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Saw this over on the One X forum. http://eu.blizzard.com/en-gb/
The fire in Diablo ad is smooth on my exynos Galaxy S2 while its slow mo on the Prime. Just like phonearena's video of the Galaxy Nexus(fast) vs One X(slow).
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Is this something that can be fixed in future updates from Asus since they're the ones with access to the proper Tegra 3 drivers?
opera mobile solved all previous browser issues for me. smooth & fluid as a mofo. plays flash with no problems. loads pages the fastest. lag free scrolling. And all of this is on stock 1.2Ghz
It's not so bad for me. This is engadget full site. Taken with my phone camera so not the greatest and shows distortion and choppiness while recording. Overall very smooth browsing.
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demandarin said:
opera mobile solved all previous browser issues for me. smooth & fluid as a mofo. plays flash with no problems. loads pages the fastest. lag free scrolling. And all of this is on stock 1.2Ghz
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I would tend to agree with you but Opera has been crashing on me. I'll be browsing then bam....crash lol.Pisses me off.Also has problems running YouTube videos all the way thru too.I even uninstalled & reinstalled but no dice.It does load pages insanely fast though.
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opera mobile solved all previous browser issues for me. smooth & fluid as a mofo. plays flash with no problems. loads pages the fastest. lag free scrolling. And all of this is on stock 1.2Ghz
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well, the reason for lag isn't the Prime or the browser. it is ics 4.03. memory intensive tasks like javascript are performed in the main thread rather then in several threads in the background. running in the main thread in the foreground (i think single core) means it locks up your machine. the other processes have to wait until the one foreground process is done. and it doesn't help the prime that its internal memory/sd card is rather slow (cheap).
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running opera mobile with page rendering on a server means you skip the javascript handling on your device. that is why opera is / looks faster. I think Sony's engineers have solved the problem on their machines and I think it will be solved in ics 4.04
BrianMigs said:
Sometimes when I fling a page down like Engadget, the scrolling seems smooth until it slows down and lags for a couple frames before stopping. Is there anyway to stop this? I have flash content turned off. The same page on my Nexus just seems so much smoother. I figured a Tegra 3 would be able to handle web page rendering a bit better.
The same thing happens for Nova Launcher, when I hit the apps drawer button, sometimes my Prime will be a little choppy rendering my apps. On my Nexus, it's always super smooth.
I'm running Jermaine's AOKP build, but it happens on any ROM I've tried to flash. Is there any particular reason why this is happening?
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Could be the browser, have you tried other browsers instead of the stock one?
I found that on previous versions (.21 seems better) if i had too many icons on my homescreens scrolling between screens was slow, different launchers were faster.
The same way you can notice a difference running chrome and IE on a desktop you can notice differences in different apps on android. Its just a matter of finding ones that work how you want. Maybe nova launcher isnt for you, have you tried others? Maybe in your custom rom they tweaked something, maybe more adjustments need to be made.
You can't compare your Nexus and your Prime, they are two different beasts. One is a motorcycle and one is a car. Different processors, different GPU's, different screen sizes, Different browsers, differen launchers, hell even different versions of ICS. Yes they both run the same apps, and run genereally the same way, but they are very very different.
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well, the reason for lag isn't the Prime or the browser. it is ics 4.03. memory intensive tasks like javascript are performed in the main thread rather then in several threads in the background. running in the main thread in the foreground (i think single core) means it locks up your machine. the other processes have to wait until the one foreground process is done. and it doesn't help the prime that its internal memory/sd card is rather slow (cheap).
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running opera mobile with page rendering on a server means you skip the javascript handling on your device. that is why opera is / looks faster. I think Sony's engineers have solved the problem on their machines and I think it will be solved in ics 4.04
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I'm talking about opera mobile, not opera mini. opera mini is the one sent through severs and compressed in all that to be extra fast. Opera mini is a stripped down non flash version of opera mobile. I run opera mobile with flash on and still does everything fast. I don't cut on the Turbo mode or anything so its the straight browser working. Regardless, for me, its by far the best. I hardly ever run into sites it doesn't display properly. I have like 6 of the top browsers. no matter how many times I switch to compare, opera mobile comes out on top.
So even if its true that opera servers handle page rendering. more kudos to them. less work for my prime to do and is probably a factor into why opera mobile also uses the least amount of battery out of all the ones I have. plus opera mobile is the only browser to let you upload files and pix from it. when downloading or uploading through it, its the only one that brings up a mini file explorer to let you choose which folder you want to save to. Im not talking about others where you have to go thru settings and choose a folder and every time it downloads to that folder. opera mobile brings up a file explorer that you can choose whatever folder you want for each individual download or upload. Plus opera mobile is the only browser that doesn't hang on huge downloads or mess them up by improperly labeling them. I've downloaded plenty of big movie and rom files(FPse) with no issue.
IMO, no browser is touching Opera mobile right now. they definitely know what their doing when it comes to making a great browser. I rarely get any pop up messages telling me to wait or crashing.
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Funny, but when I continuously scroll page, or scroll with right bar – no lag or freeze. When i use standard finger swipe scrolling with timeouts (1 sec more than enough) - every new swipe starts with lag. I think cpu is drop down to sleep phase in browser somehow.
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Funny, but when I continuously scroll page, or scroll with right bar – no lag or freeze. When i use standard finger swipe scrolling with timeouts (1 sec more than enough) - every new swipe starts with lag. I think cpu is drop down to sleep phase in browser somehow.
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Ditto. Finger scroll is so stuttery for me as if I'm running single core.
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Which you probably are, since ninja core is supposed to take care of simple tasks like browsing.
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I noticed that scroll bar vs finger scrolling too.
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Which you probably are, since ninja core is supposed to take care of simple tasks like browsing.
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Web browsing is not a simple task.
demandarin said:
I'm talking about opera mobile, not opera mini. opera mini is the one sent through severs and compressed in all that to be extra fast. Opera mini is a stripped down non flash version of opera mobile. I run opera mobile with flash on and still does everything fast. I don't cut on the Turbo mode or anything so its the straight browser working. Regardless, for me, its by far the best. I hardly ever run into sites it doesn't display properly. I have like 6 of the top browsers. no matter how many times I switch to compare, opera mobile comes out on top.
So even if its true that opera servers handle page rendering. more kudos to them. less work for my prime to do and is probably a factor into why opera mobile also uses the least amount of battery out of all the ones I have. plus opera mobile is the only browser to let you upload files and pix from it. when downloading or uploading through it, its the only one that brings up a mini file explorer to let you choose which folder you want to save to. Im not talking about others where you have to go thru settings and choose a folder and every time it downloads to that folder. opera mobile brings up a file explorer that you can choose whatever folder you want for each individual download or upload. Plus opera mobile is the only browser that doesn't hang on huge downloads or mess them up by improperly labeling them. I've downloaded plenty of big movie and rom files(FPse) with no issue.
IMO, no browser is touching Opera mobile right now. they definitely know what their doing when it comes to making a great browser. I rarely get any pop up messages telling me to wait or crashing.
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when i try opera mobile i always get a very stuttered scroll. is there a way to get rid of that? it loads the page fast and so forth, but the scrolling just sucks.
I have no problems of this kind. Browsing is very smooth for me, I used to have those lock ups, but it seems Boat browser solved my problems. I'm stock and I have forced 2d acceleration enabled.
Hey guys. I am creating this thread to assist Asus in identifying the apps related to the I/O issues, and how to resolve them. The majority of the Asus beta testers are not having the same issues that some are having, so it is not easy for Asus to come up with a fix to resolve the problems such as screen flickering, SOD, browser/general lag and gaming issues. The issues seems to stem from how the I/O scheduler allocates cpu usage for each app that requires background processes, so it's harder for Asus to solve this issue as not all Primes are running the same apps/system "enhancers'. Please take a few seconds to take a screenshot and/or list all your running processes, and list the current issues that you are having with your Primes. Also, as requested, please also go to settings/apps, running. Then after grabbing a screenshot, select the "Show cached processes" in upper left corner as this information can also prove to be very useful to Asus. Once we can determine the common app(s) running for those who are having issues, the easier it would be for Asus to pinpoint the problems. Since Demandarin is in direct contact with Gary, he can forward this info to him. This will be extremely helpful.
Also, please don't post how you shouldn't have to do this, as it should work already. If you don't want to help fix your Prime, then dont post here. There are some with real issues, and there are some who while they do have issues, also like to troll just to keep the flames burning. Instead of us continually posting about the issues we are having, let's take two minutes to try and resolve them. It will also be great for those with NO issues to also post here, so we can see what processes they have running compared to those WITH issues.
For my Prime, I do not have ANY flickering, rebooting or gaming issues anymore. My running apps according to my Prime are as follows-
-Settings (of course)
-Apex launcher
-Volume+
-Rotate
-NVCPL Service (Android process)
-com.asus.keyboard(android service)
-Google Services
-Google maps
-Asus Sync
640mb of free memory
Hopefully this thread can be made into a sticky, thank you all for your time.
PM sent to Demandarin to pass on the info posted here to Asus
I read your pm. once this gets rolling, ill forward it.
demandarin said:
I read your pm. once this gets rolling, ill forward it.
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Thanks Demandarin. This would be great for not only Asus, but all of us. Besides Assisting Asus in identifying the I/O issues, if there are a few misbehaving apps(which I bet is a BIG cause of some issues), this thread can help pinpoint it.
Here is a screenshot of all the processes/apps running in the background on my Prime.
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Hey guys. I am creating this thread to assist Asus in identifying the apps related to the I/O issues, and how to resolve them. The majority of the Asus beta testers are not having the same issues that some are having, so it is not easy for Asus to come up with a fix to resolve the problems such as screen flickering, SOD, browser/general lag and gaming issues. The issues seems to stem from how the I/O scheduler allocates cpu usage for each app that requires background processes, so it's harder for Asus to solve this issue as not all Primes are running the same apps/system "enhancers'. Please take a few seconds to take a screenshot and/or list all your running processes, and list the current issues that you are having with your Primes. Once we can determine the common app(s) running for those who are having issues, the easier it would be for Asus to pinpoint the problems. Since Demandarin is in direct contact with Gary, he can forward this info to him. This will be extremely helpful.
Also, please don't post how you shouldn't have to do this, as it should work already. If you don't want to help fix your Prime, then dont post here. There are some with real issues, and there are some who while they do have issues, also like to troll just to keep the flames burning. Instead of us continually posting about the issues we are having, let's take two minutes to try and resolve them. It will also be great for those with NO issues to also post here, so we can see what processes they have running compared to those WITH issues.
For my Prime, I do not have ANY flickering, rebooting or gaming issues anymore. My running apps according to my Prime are as follows-
-Settings (of course)
-Apex launcher
-Volume+
-Rotate
-NVCPL Service (Android process)
-com.asus.keyboard(android service)
-Google Services
-Google maps
-Asus Sync
Hopefully this thread can be made into a sticky, thank you all for your time.
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Running process... this changes routinely depending the app being used. Also, if you go that route, you should basically ask everyone to list ALL apps that each individual has installed.
Also, you should ask for static data on background process & app that are causing each issue. As far as I understand.. with absolutely diverse behavior of Transformer Primes... it's nearly impossible to obtain such static data. That & with .28 update... it isn't easy to replicate all the issues. They happen sporadically... and randomly.
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Here is a screenshot of all the processes/apps running in the background on my Prime.
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Thank you for your assistance. Can you also list the issues that you are having?
Thanks again
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Running process... this changes routinely depending the app being used. Also, if you go that route, you should basically ask everyone to list ALL apps that each individual has installed.
Also, you should ask for static data on background process & app that are causing each issue. As far as I understand.. with absolutely diverse behavior of Transformer Primes... it's nearly impossible to obtain such static data. That & with .28 update... it isn't easy to replicate all the issues. They happen sporadically... and randomly.
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They do, but their are some apps that are constantly running and/or restarting. Also, apps that are not running are not required as they are not using cpu or being allocated in the I/O Scheduler.
I understand what you are saying, but again, since Asus is not using a large beta testing group, it will help them to see what issues each poster is having, and the apps that they are currently running. This really takes not time to post, but if it helps, then we cll can enjoy our $500+ tablets right?
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They do, but their are some apps that are constantly running and/or restarting. Also, apps that are not running are not required as they are not using cpu or being allocated in the I/O Scheduler.
I understand what you are saying, but again, since Asus is not using a large beta testing group, it will help them to see what issues each poster is having, and the apps that they are currently running. This really takes not time to post, but if it helps, then we cll can enjoy our $500+ tablets right?
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You should ask for background process as soon as they reboot (but most likely, all the basic ones will be shared by all).
After that... background process after the initial reboot once those "few" apps that restart & changes and etc... I for one.. have no idea how you will obtain this information nor how credible it actually will be.
Also, to capture background process when "issues" do arise...
And since they are sporadic, you will need "data" from over a long stretch of period for all "data" & information on all APPs installed.
BCO, .28, not rooted, 32gb, keyboard dock
Do not have any flickering, ANR's, rebooting, plays hd movies great (mp4), about 5 hours of battery life with constant use (tablet only, no dock). I do have an occasional pause when scrolling internet (Opera Mobile).
Running apps:
Settings
Lookout
Tripit
NvCPL Service
com.asus.keyboard
Google Services
Maps
Asus Sync
Ram: 358MB used, 631MB free
dalew729 said:
BCO, .28, not rooted, 32gb, keyboard dock
Do not have any flickering, ANR's, rebooting, plays hd movies great (mp4), about 5 hours of battery life with constant use (tablet only, no dock). I do have an occasional pause when scrolling internet (Opera Mobile).
Running apps:
Settings
Lookout
Tripit
NvCPL Service
com.asus.keyboard
Google Services
Maps
Asus Sync
Ram: 358MB used, 631MB free
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Thank you! Seeing the running processes for people with NO issues as well as people who do is great as the different processes can be compared.
Also, thing to note is that I also have the same amount of free memory as you do.
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You should ask for background process as soon as they reboot (but most likely, all the basic ones will be shared by all).
After that... background process after the initial reboot once those "few" apps that restart & changes and etc... I for one.. have no idea how you will obtain this information nor how credible it actually will be.
Also, to capture background process when "issues" do arise...
And since they are sporadic, you will need "data" from over a long stretch of period for all "data" & information on all APPs installed.
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no, we need the background processes that have been running, there is no need to only request processes after a fresh reboot as the app(s) in question might not be running at that time.
While I appreciate your info, let's keep this thread on topic of what is requested. If you do not want to provide the info, then there is no need to post here. XDA is about solving issues, not just complaining about them.
Thanks
I'm not sure if you understand how I/O scheduler works. Here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I/O_scheduling
To get some "credible" data... you should ask for "factory reset" & background process info. after that... & how it performs.
And after that, I/O performance of each "app" & how it gets prioritizes in the background process... & how it effects the system.
But with extremely diverse behavior of each Prime from BK/BC batch to whatever C batch that it is released...
Simply getting background process of one "period" isn't going to do anything.
Edit: And I won't post anymore in this thread.
Why doesn't ASUS just buy the problem Primes from us and replace them? Then they solve two birds with one stone: they have Primes to test and the people with problems get a new prime.
Of course, if it is truly just a problem with certain apps then replacing the Prime won't help the end user, other than let them know that ASUS is taking this seriously.
CurrentWidget aint worth a damn otherwise but it does do a good job of logging all applications if you set up the log correctly.
com.android.email;com.manor.currentwidget;com.android.systemui;com.android.phone;com.nuance.xt9.input;com.google.process.gapps;system;android.process.acore;com.asus.filemanager;com.android.launcher;com.nvidia.NvCPLSvc;com.dropbox.android;com.google.android.apps.maps:NetworkLocationService;com.asus.DLNA;com.asus.pcsynctool:auth;com.asus.keyboard;com.mobisystems.editor.office_registered:search;youtube.download.helper.v1;com.facebook.katana;
since .28 I have been introduced to
screen flicker
google search will just crash on occasion if I start typing on my keyboard
taskbar hopping
all can be fixed with a soft reset until whatever happens to offend my prime starts up again.
I will post a log from current widget if my prime gets the shakes again.
By the way: I have never seen an anr on any app since browser2ram
Might I suggest that looking for specific apps causing / having issues may not be the correct course of action for Asus?
Most of the research done by fairly knowledgeable end users points to a common issue - the extremely slow write performance of the main device storage.
I'm sincerely hoping that this isn't headed down the workaround road. If the I/O were fixed, the app lag issues would be fixed, and Asus would have a lot of very happy and content Prime users.
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TBacker said:
Might I suggest that looking for specific apps causing / having issues may not be the correct course of action for Asus?
Most of the research done by fairly knowledgeable end users points to a common issue - the extremely slow write performance of the main device storage.
I'm sincerely hoping that this isn't headed down the workaround road. If the I/O were fixed, the app lag issues would be fixed, and Asus would have a lot of very happy and content Prime users.
Sent from my DROID RAZR using XDA
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I agree with the first sentence but am pretty sure its not slow write causing screen flicker
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I agree with the first sentence but am pretty sure its not slow write causing screen flicker
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Agreed - and that issue needs to be resolved.
The lags and hesitations, however, are affecting everyone to some degree, in a way that more heavily impacts productivity and enjoyment. I would venture that it's the biggest current issue.
Surely Asus can run read / write tests internally and track down a cause. They just need to be properly motivated....
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Its good to see initiatives to send stuff to asus, i will wait for problems to occur, and will make a screenshot when it happens. Although i dont see relation to background apps.
- One of my issues is that the stock browser is slow as hell, crashes and gives ANR messages.
The fact that CFQ IO scheduler improves the browser and the fact that browser2RAM resolves it in total , combined with the really bad benchmark results on writes to internal sd, to me makes clear that this is caused by the slow internal memory. This is a structural problem, it does not matter what background process is running.
- Further CFQ io scheduler improves overall stability, less ANR, less lockups while installing Apps. I guess ASUS is able to install an app and browse the web at one time? Also i am pretty sure that there are asus employees who have old android flagship phones to compare.
Again i see no relation to which apps are running in the background.
Asus needs to look at what people in these forums all ready achieved. Motley with his kernel, wooky with his ROM, the sqlite thread, browser2ram and so on.
There isnt an App that causes all this! Problem lies at OS/driver/hardware level!
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Edit: removed rant/concerns as correctly identified by op
OP, as long as we are trying to identify what currently running/in memory, could we ask that people go to settings/apps, Running. Then after grabbing a screenshot, select the "Show cached processes" in upper left corner (this is new to .28, is it not?) In any event, it could prove useful, and people are right there anyway.
Here are my 2: First is running apps, second is cached processes
My issues are ANR's from Browser, SOD (None yet on .28 ) and Games that stutter and freeze (even with the OPS Destroying all activities) as I leave them, and Background Process Limit) I DO have BETTER results with Background Processes limited to 1, but search fails and a few apps will not run. I have compromised with 2 and sometimes 3 background processes for a "decent" improvement, in most cases.
Has anyone else had issues of running out of memory? I often have 500+MB being used at any given time. A couple of days ago, I was using my GPS, listening to iHeartRadio and texting and my phone slowed to a crawl. Once I finally got task manager open, I had about 10MB free. I've had this happen with stock and custom ROMs.
It seems like I constantly stand at having over 400MB used.
So, how's it look for everyone else?
i've never had an issue and it should be warning you way before you get 10mb that you are low on resources
Welcome to HTC Sense.
Today, I was in a pickle because I was in a part of town I had no idea about, I was driving to and from about three places with important documents that needed to be delivered where people were waiting on me to close on a house.
Meanwhile, I'm trying to get my phone brightness up via the notification menu quick settings, open maps and find a location and navigation to there, long pressing to multitask, and text, and I was just going to fast for the phone. It was bogged down and in that hectic moment, it was just frustrating. I forgot I could have used task manager. I wonder if that would've helped me.
I love the phone. It feels great in my hand and looks sexy both physically and in its display, but this phone should not perform like the EVO 4G. I'm an HTC fanboy, but I am not above calling out a flaw. If I were an android developer wizard, I would try to fix it. But no.
I'm just trying to relate and say, I get you. ^_^
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Task manager helped in that it simply exited EVERYTHING. It kicked me out of navigation, stopped the music and brought me down to about 450MB used. Odd thing was that even though nothing was listed as running, everytime I hit refresh the memory usage was increasing.
It probably is because of sense, but it just looks so nice!
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Task manager helped in that it simply exited EVERYTHING. It kicked me out of navigation, stopped the music and brought me down to about 450MB used. Odd thing was that even though nothing was listed as running, everytime I hit refresh the memory usage was increasing.
It probably is because of sense, but it just looks so nice!
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If your rooted, try AutoKiller Memory, it tweaks the OOM settings of the kernel making it more efficient while managing your dormit and active memory cycles.
The dev has a great resource page you can learn much about what happens in the Android world when it comes to memory utilization.
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If your rooted, try AutoKiller Memory, it tweaks the OOM settings of the kernel making it more efficient while managing your dormit and active memory cycles.
The dev has a great resource page you can learn much about what happens in the Android world when it comes to memory utilization.
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Out of curiosity what are your OOM levels set at and does it help with multitasking on our devices?
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Out of curiosity what are your OOM levels set at and does it help with multitasking on our devices?
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First, in the Development options I keep the Backgroud process limit the Standard and I set the AutoKiller Memory to Strict profile, which has given me good results so far, but you can play around with your settings because I know we don't have the same amount of apps or configuration overall.
Keep in mind also that I am not running a custom ROM, I'm STOCK rooted only without bloatware removed or any major changes.
I have always wondered if improved anything but it seems the same speeds and battery. Is this actually working at all?
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I think it forces the gpu to do all the rendering and takes some of the load off of the cpu. It can make a lot of apps quicker and your home screen transitions are generally smoother, that i have noticed. but i would think that if any of the apps you use don't support hardware acceleration it will cause them to glitch.
i dont know to much, but after i was having some issues and using this seemed to fix them i looked around to see what it actaully does. i can see it more used for developers so they can force the GPU when testing apps and settings.
I have not had problem with any app using gpu
What matters here is if user is able to tell the difference. I've never noticed difference. Probably is only related to developers when they test their apps.
Forced GPU tends to keep the CPU at lower frequences and thus save power while reacting qicker.
However it gobs up an additional MB or so per App, which causes unused apps to be removed even quicker from the cache - if you are one of the people complaining about multitasking you should turn it off.
Hi, I have a 4.2 and my RAM always gets used up. I try my best to close background programs, but yet I still have barely any left. I always have to force restart the player. This problem started happening out of nowhere. I didn't install any apps or anything either... I've been using ADW Launcher EX and ics keyboard for a while. Any help?
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You could try Go launcher EX. That seems to manage my RAM better. Also, if you are not already doing so, turn off your Wi-Fi when you are not using it or it is not around. Also once you turn off your Wi-Fi, try rebooting, that usually will stop any apps that stay open and require Wi-Fi in various ways that somehow are still active. You could also try a custom kernel, I use Terrasilent and my 64 emulator run smoother and I seem to have more RAM. On top of that to you could try a custom governor, which controls your RAM. Just stay away from task manager apps, they add to the problem instead of solving it.
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actually, its not bad that your ram is filled up.
Consider this -- Jerry did/said/thought something that made his wife mad (yes, she can read my thoughts), so he bought flowers from the 7-Eleven and wants to make a mix CD of her favorite Rod Stewart songs to give to her and get his ass out of the doghouse. It could happen. Consider which is more efficient:
Burn 20 songs to a CD, give to wife, and smile while she plays it.
Burn one song to a CD, let her listen, then erase it and burn the next song.
That's what your phone (or tablet) has to consider. Loading Google Talk to RAM once, and having it there to open almost instantly is far better than loading it each and every time you want to use it. So why kill it off? It's not like you'll never use it again, and nothing else is going to use that RAM while it's sitting empty -- at that point, it's wasted space. You will also use a lot more battery power re-opening Talk every time you get a message than you will by having the zeros held as ones on your RAM. The folks who built Android really did know what they were doing when it comes to memory management. After the parameters are set, and the amount the OS can use to "swap" for it's normal operations, the rest is simply wasted if we're not using it. What is cached in RAM is just sitting there, not using any CPU cycles, but ready to get pushed to the front and appear on the screen as fast as it can, and not use the extra battery needed to start it up from disk again.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Thanks! I'm just waiting for software to be developed so I can get a faster device.
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