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theyre charging us $2 now just to pay a bill online or over the phone. We now literally have to pay verizon to pay them. This **** is getting out of control.
Verizon Wireless To Begin Charging "$2 Convenience Fee" For Online and Phone Payments http://phandroid.com/?p=78467
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Yea, that is a little ridiculous. Petition time again?
im gonna stop paying online. then i'll call them and flip ****, and of course threatening to leave... maybe they'll throw me some goodies, seeing as I've been with them since oh 96? lol
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jayochs said:
im gonna stop paying online. then i'll call them and flip ****, and of course threatening to leave... maybe they'll throw me some goodies, seeing as I've been with them since oh 96? lol
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Not a bad idea. Sounds like the retention department just got the job of collecting our payments.
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They really are getting out of hand with this already. Granted they have the best service by far, especially for me coming from Sprint, who had no 4g at all here, but come on already. Opinions seem to indicate that this is a result of people paying late, and Verizon is trying to force them to enroll in autopay, but come on. If someone's more than a day or two late, turn their phone off. Don't punish everyone for the actions of a few.
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They really are getting out of hand with this already. Granted they have the best service by far, especially for me coming from Sprint, who had no 4g at all here, but come on already. Opinions seem to indicate that this is a result of people paying late, and Verizon is trying to force them to enroll in autopay, but come on. If someone's more than a day or two late, turn their phone off. Don't punish everyone for the actions of a few.
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I have never been late, my first year I didn't want to be late because I didn't want to be screwed and lose my deposit, lol.
I heard this a few days ago. It really seems crazy to me, but this decision was far above my pay grade. I have auto payment set up so it doesn't matter to me, but still seems a bit much. One thing I did see though, and we will see if it is true when this rolls out, but if you have auto payment you can pay early with a different payment method and it will not take out of the account you have set up for automatic payment or charge the fee. Again, we will see if it really is that way once this rolls out.
Makes a lot of sense, the one method that must cost Verizon the most manpower to process, that's the free method. I understand that they have to make money, but it's far less insulting to just jack up the bill by 2 dollars and say "look, we need more revenue". Rather than say "hey, the two ways that we've been trying to encourage you to pay for the last few years is now going to cost you unless you give us unrestricted access to your credit card or bank accounts, but hey that really inconvenient and wasteful method is still free". Right, so when there's a billing error or some other problem with charges, they can take the money regardless and then you can fight with them to get it back if you're lucky. No thanks.
Most business charge a fee to pay online or over phone, nothing new. Use snail mail or online banking and save yourself the fee. They are only charging if you pay on their site or use phone or my Verizon.
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They keep finding ways to nickle and dime us to death these days...
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Most business change a fee to pay online or over phone, nothing new. Use snail mail or online banking and save yourself the fee. They are only charging if you pay on their site or use phone or my Verizon.
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Most business' use a third party to receive their payments, this is why they charge.
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Most business change a fee to pay online or over phone, nothing new. Use snail mail or online banking and save yourself the fee. They are only charging if you pay on their site or use phone or my Verizon.
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I guess I must be lucky. None of the businesses I deal with charge a fee to pay online...phone maybe, but not online. I haven't used a check to pay a bill in as long as I can remember (years). I don't even know if I still have any.
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I guess I must be lucky. None of the businesses I deal with charge a fee to pay online...phone maybe, but not online. I haven't used a check to pay a bill in as long as I can remember (years). I don't even know if I still have any.
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Online banking works great for me, all my bills on one page.
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I refuse to keep stored payment info with verizon. 2 months ago, they processed a payment I didn't authorize a week before it was due. They couldn't explain it, said that I made the payment in the store. I've never made an in store payment. Guess I'll start sending them checks...
Online bill pay with Chase works great. It takes 5 days for them to receive payment Fyi.
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Online banking works great for me, all my bills on one page.
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online is the way to go, I have paid VZ that way for a couple years now.
I don't have it pay automatically, as I dont totally trust VZ to always get the bill right and I want to check it first, but it takes about 20 seconds to pay the bill online when it comes.
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Yeah, everyone who said online banking rocks tha house is right. I can pay my 17 or so different bills in about 3 minutes. It used to take an hour and a half at least when I mailed them. Plus I'm saving loads of paper which always makes me feel good.
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Trolling and agreeing
Online bill pay is the way to go with anything. Its free, normally done electronically for fast and on time processing, easy payment tracking on One secure site, proof payment was made on a third party system and last but not least can also set as automatic payments using your banks system.
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I'm filling a complaint because of this. I get paid once a month, one day before my bill is due. If they force this autodraft restriction it will cause me to overdraft my account as most autopay scenarios take the money out 3-5 days before the bill is due. I've already had Verizon move my billing date up once, I doubt they will do it again. This is just wrong of them.
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Lol same here! I dont wanna miss a day of paying
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I have never been late, my first year I didn't want to be late because I didn't want to be screwed and lose my deposit, lol.
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Just Pre-ordered EVO LTE from Wirefly (Upgrade Price) for $139
Was $119, sorry ladies & gents, deal was limited time only.
I started a thread in the OG EVO forum before this forum existed, thought I would pass this along to the XDA community.
I have used Wirefly before, I was very happy with them, so they will continue to get my business.
http://www.wirefly.com/eCommerce/SpecialOffer.aspx?cid=26987_79339e2c60224c9291f2ee5cbbfc6cb8
Will wirefly bill your sprint account or do you have to pay cash?
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You pay upfront. Just like other pre-orders.
When does it say you should receive your phone?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25855839&postcount=1440
Just a friendly warning, the sale seems to be linked to specific zip codes. The link in the OP is setup for Garfield NJ, 07026 and the one I actually used was for Spring TX. If I updated the zip to my real zip code, the sale price is $149. Their system will also AUTOMATICALLY make your City, State, zip that of which the link takes you to.
Now I placed my order, realized the address issue and will contacted them tomorrow to modify my address. Not sure if that will effect the price I pay BUT one thing is for sure, its not going to cost me $217 either way.
I'll update here after I get the address corrected and confirm my price after. I figure I'll give it a day in their system to get to stick and then update the address.
I ordered yesterday for $149.99
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It should be noted that there is a $37 activation fee from Sprint.
I changed the zipcode to mine (here in chicago) and it kept the $119.99 price. And yes, there is a $36 activation fee, but this is still cheaper than $150 if you figure in the $10 google wallet credit...
$119.99
$36
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$145.99
Not bad at all. Not the $10 I paid for my evo a few days before christmas (price match + rebate), but flipping that, I should net under $50 or less for the whole thing.
EVO for $99.99 if you have Bank of America
Log into your bofa account and click on the add it up link. click on cell phone deals and bofa will credit your account $50 if you buy using their link. I tried getting the $119.99-$50 add it up, but it won't work.
One or the other.
By the way, to get the $119.99 deal, do a google search for "wirefly friends and family" and click on the first non-ad link.
So to summarize, $119.99 if you don't have bofa
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$99.99 if you have bofa using the add it up link.
gl
i want to use an upgrade on 1 line to get it on my other line but i heard wirefly gets a lil pissy if you take it off the upgrade line. will i run into issues with this?
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i want to use an upgrade on 1 line to get it on my other line but i heard wirefly gets a lil pissy if you take it off the upgrade line. will i run into issues with this?
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I wouldn't see why they would, if you are worried activate it on the line you used to upgrade, then switch the phone over to the line you want it on.
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I wouldn't see why they would, if you are worried activate it on the line you used to upgrade, then switch the phone over to the line you want it on.
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thats what i would do but ive heard they get a lil iffy on it
Ive upgraded and swapped numbers two or three times. It not that bad. It just takes a bit longer when your activating thats all
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i want to use an upgrade on 1 line to get it on my other line but i heard wirefly gets a lil pissy if you take it off the upgrade line. will i run into issues with this?
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How will they know? You don't activate through them. You buy from them, tell them it's for the upgradable line, then when you get it, you activate through Sprint and have them so the switch. Wirefly is out of the picture once you have the device.
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Why is there an activation charge?
How is this any different than buying a phone off of Craigslist and getting it activated?
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Does Sprint charge $37 activation even if you get it from them anyway?
(If so, then this isn't an issue. Gotta pay it either way, right?)
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Why is there an activation charge?
How is this any different than buying a phone off of Craigslist and getting it activated?
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Does Sprint charge $37 activation even if you get it from them anyway?
(If so, then this isn't an issue. Gotta pay it either way, right?)
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Because you need to "activate" it on the carrier and it's no different, you would be paying the same charge no matter where you get the phone. Now, the activation fee did double but that puts Sprint in line with the other carrier's activation/upgrade fees and adds more cash to the "fix the network" pot.
*Activation is $36
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I wouldn't see why they would, if you are worried activate it on the line you used to upgrade, then switch the phone over to the line you want it on.
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I had this same intention. I called Wirefly and they do NOT let you use another line's upgrade for your own (idk why thats what he said). You would have to swap the upgradeable line with yours like others have said. Part of the reason is because their policy is to activate it themselves (I asked them if they could hold off on the activation, the guy said no) so its running by the time it gets in your hands
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25855839&postcount=1440
Just a friendly warning, the sale seems to be linked to specific zip codes. The link in the OP is setup for Garfield NJ, 07026 and the one I actually used was for Spring TX. If I updated the zip to my real zip code, the sale price is $149. Their system will also AUTOMATICALLY make your City, State, zip that of which the link takes you to.
Now I placed my order, realized the address issue and will contacted them tomorrow to modify my address. Not sure if that will effect the price I pay BUT one thing is for sure, its not going to cost me $217 either way.
I'll update here after I get the address corrected and confirm my price after. I figure I'll give it a day in their system to get to stick and then update the address.
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Just wanted to check back in and confirm that I did call and update the address for shipping and everything is right on track, price is set at $119.
Now just hoping we do get ours before the 18th but if not, so what, this was a great deal.
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I had this same intention. I called Wirefly and they do NOT let you use another line's upgrade for your own (idk why thats what he said). You would have to swap the upgradeable line with yours like others have said. Part of the reason is because their policy is to activate it themselves (I asked them if they could hold off on the activation, the guy said no) so its running by the time it gets in your hands
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This doesn't entirely make sense. If you're upgrading, that would mean your existing device stops functioning when they activate the new one. This is obviously not acceptable. I'm quite confident you actually have to call in and activate it once you receive the device. THEN your old device stops functioning. Now if you're buying a new line of service then it may arrive activated (though past purchases from amazon for tmobile did require activation AFTER receipt of device).
ymmv.
Wirefly has a ad on its front Page saying free activation wheb adding a line or doing a new activation.
Food for thought to make it a even better deal...
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I have to wait a little while until my current contract with Sprint is up before getting the Evo LTE. But I see them on ebay for about the same money as one would cost me in the store once I'm upgrade elegible. I'm wondering how the ebay phone process works to get it working on the Sprint network? I've only bought phones from Sprint and BB in the past. I know I need a clean ESN, but what I'm wondering is about activation and insurance. Does it cost me money to activate an ebay phone or can I just do it through the website tools? Is it possible to get insurance for the phone (aftermarket I'd assume)? If so, who do you recommend? Anything else to know about getting it working?
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I have to wait a little while until my current contract with Sprint is up before getting the Evo LTE. But I see them on ebay for about the same money as one would cost me in the store once I'm upgrade elegible. I'm wondering how the ebay phone process works to get it working on the Sprint network? I've only bought phones from Sprint and BB in the past. I know I need a clean ESN, but what I'm wondering is about activation and insurance. Does it cost me money to activate an ebay phone or can I just do it through the website tools? Is it possible to get insurance for the phone (aftermarket I'd assume)? If so, who do you recommend? Anything else to know about getting it working?
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no it doesnt...if you have the phone just call sprint and ask them to activate the phone and theyll ask you for the serial number and such and activate it in a few mins and your good to go with a new evo and still out of contract
not sure about the insurance but there are places that sell insurance that you can buy i just dont know of them
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not sure about the insurance but there are places that sell insurance that you can buy i just dont know of them
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just tell them to turn on the insurance when you activate or they will "forget" to say anything. I bought an OG EVO from e-bay as long as the seller is reputable you will be ok.
I think that technically there's an activation fee, but from what I've seen before it's not that hard to bypass. If you're finding a phone on ebay that costs the same as the subsidized price, then I'd think very hard about what I was doing. These phones are normally 2-4x the price you pay when you get a subsidy; you're putting yourself up for some real risk if an unsubsidized phone costs as little as a subsidized new phone.
If you do buy it though and it does turn out to be a clean ESN/MEID, then first off congrats since you just dodged a massive bullet and saved tons of money, but also go and sign up for TEP, at least for a few months. The only reason I recommend this is because I'm still not 100% sure that the great deal you got is without a hidden problem that could jump out at you and eat your savings.
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I think that technically there's an activation fee, but from what I've seen before it's not that hard to bypass. If you're finding a phone on ebay that costs the same as the subsidized price, then I'd think very hard about what I was doing. These phones are normally 2-4x the price you pay when you get a subsidy; you're putting yourself up for some real risk if an unsubsidized phone costs as little as a subsidized new phone.
If you do buy it though and it does turn out to be a clean ESN/MEID, then first off congrats since you just dodged a massive bullet and saved tons of money, but also go and sign up for TEP, at least for a few months. The only reason I recommend this is because I'm still not 100% sure that the great deal you got is without a hidden problem that could jump out at you and eat your savings.
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Activation fee is charged on a new line or upgrade...not an ESN swap
Plus one for hidden issues/bad ESN.
I would seriously question an EVO on the second hand market for $200-300
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Activation fee is charged on a new line or upgrade...not an ESN swap
Plus one for hidden issues/bad ESN.
I would seriously question an EVO on the second hand market for $200-300
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We're definitely on the same page as far as second-hand devices go. That said, I would love clarification on the fee for hidden issues. It's not something I've ever heard of. I'm not discounting it as a falsehood by any means, I really am just very surprised to see such a thing and would love details. Screenshots work best IMO.
I've seen them go for 300-350 but less than that is a bad phone
Thanks for the input so far. I don't think I can get TEP from Sprint on a phone I did not buy from them. I've found SquareTrade offers a warranty, though. We have used them before, so that is probably the way I'd go there.
There are a lot of these phones on ebay for under $250 right now. I figure $250 is about the break even point when I include the activiation fee and almot 10% sales tax we pay around here. I can't imagine they are all scams. I appreciate the concern, though.
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Thanks for the input so far. I don't think I can get TEP from Sprint on a phone I did not buy from them. I've found SquareTrade offers a warranty, though. We have used them before, so that is probably the way I'd go there.
There are a lot of these phones on ebay for under $250 right now. I figure $250 is about the break even point when I include the activiation fee and almot 10% sales tax we pay around here. I can't imagine they are all scams. I appreciate the concern, though.
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you can totally get TEP from sprint on a phone you did not buy from them, I have got it on the last phone I bought. I just asked and they turned it on, it was that simple.
you can totally get TEP from sprint on a phone you did not buy from them, I have got it on the last phone I bought. I just asked and they turned it on, it was that simple.
Same here
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Cool. Good to know.
I look at Craigslist and Ebay almost daily to see what they're selling for. I have one and also the GSIII. One must go soon and if its the EVO, I don't think I'll get more than $300 for it. Some are selling brand new EVO's, well suppose to be, for $250 on CL. My opinion, which means nothing, thinks that maybe the EVO has a bad reputation right now from the people that swapped them out for the GSIII. Not sure.
Seems like the S3's are going for much more money. Could be it's because they work for every carrier?
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Seems like the S3's are going for much more money. Could be it's because they work for every carrier?
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Yes they are.
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We're definitely on the same page as far as second-hand devices go. That said, I would love clarification on the fee for hidden issues. It's not something I've ever heard of. I'm not discounting it as a falsehood by any means, I really am just very surprised to see such a thing and would love details. Screenshots work best IMO.
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misread, seperation indicated different subject. I was agreeing (plus 1) with the chance of bad phone
popper668 said:
you can totally get TEP from sprint on a phone you did not buy from them, I have got it on the last phone I bought. I just asked and they turned it on, it was that simple.
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There are ways, but it isn't the norm. And is against policy
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Seems like the S3's are going for much more money. Could be it's because they work for every carrier?
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S3's are offered by all 4 but do not have interchangeability . A sprint s3 will not work on Att etc.
It's more of a Flagship, heavily advertised phone that more people want. Simply supply vs demand
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misread, seperation indicated different subject. I was agreeing (plus 1) with the chance of bad phone
There are ways, but it isn't the norm. And is against policy
S3's are offered by all 4 but do not have interchangeability . A sprint s3 will not work on Att etc.
It's more of a Flagship, heavily advertised phone that more people want. Simply supply vs demand
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I bought new evo lte from ebay seller. When I called sprint to activate on my line the agent even asked do you want to keep TEP and I said yes. No problem at all and it is there looking on sprint's website in my profile.
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I bought new evo lte from ebay seller. When I called sprint to activate on my line the agent even asked do you want to keep TEP and I said yes. No problem at all and it is there looking on sprint's website in my profile.
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i have bot multiple phones/devices on e-bay. have not had any issues with activation.
one time i bricked a device and the guy i originally bot it from was able to fix it for a small fee.
The activation fee is only on new phones. It is only when the esn is first activated on sprint. So if I bought a new phone and activated the esn but left it new in box and then sold it to you there'd be no activation fee as the esn was already in sprints system
Eip payments owed in two phones by two different people.
Curious if this is how it could work by default or request to tmobile.
If two people have new lines both making Eip payments and owe I. Each phone , and you trade devices with them does the payme rd you make go toward the device that is now registered in your SIM card since when u put SIM In any phone that becomes the device that shows up in your account .Or do the Individuals that traded pay for there original phone even tho it is now registering on your sin and account .
And if not is it possible for the both to call tmobile and say they want the swapped phones to become the phones they want to pay for .Just to safeguard each others now swapped phones from non Eip payments and Imei block.
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Eip payments owed in two phones by two different people.
Curious if this is how it could work by default or request to tmobile.
If two people have new lines both making Eip payments and owe I. Each phone , and you trade devices with them does the payme rd you make go toward the device that is now registered in your SIM card since when u put SIM In any phone that becomes the device that shows up in your account .Or do the Individuals that traded pay for there original phone even tho it is now registering on your sin and account .
And if not is it possible for the both to call tmobile and say they want the swapped phones to become the phones they want to pay for .Just to safeguard each others now swapped phones from non Eip payments and Imei block.
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I get a headache just thinking about it. Call a T-Mobile store or dial 611 from a phone that is NOT one of the two phones in question.
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I get a headache just thinking about it. Call a T-Mobile store or dial 611 from a phone that is NOT one of the two phones in question.
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It was more of a question for the good experienced xda folks who would know right off top ...rather than fighting with tmo about it.
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It was more of a question for the good experienced xda folks who would know right off top ...rather than fighting with tmo about it.
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I think you would get more accurate info from T-Mobile. I haven't seen any threads with this sort of issue or question.
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I think you would get more accurate info from T-Mobile. I haven't seen any threads with this sort of issue or question.
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Ok
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To transfer or trade phones both devices need to be paid off in full
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ihyln said:
To transfer or trade phones both devices need to be paid off in full
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But if both people are on TMO, and they both continue to pay their EIP and they just swap SIM cards, will TMO even care?
Yes. This is to safeguard you or the other guy if one of you decide to default on the payments.
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The point is if both devices are being paid on and cost the same . What's the difference if you trade and both people continue to pay on the eip towards the NOW Device that is in the account since the trade so you aren't subjected to a imei cut off cause the idoiot other guy defaults ...it should default and shut off his phone which would be the one that that you traded him and he is now using not the one he traded u .
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Eip payments owed in two phones by two different people.
Curious if this is how it could work by default or request to tmobile.
If two people have new lines both making Eip payments and owe I. Each phone , and you trade devices with them does the payme rd you make go toward the device that is now registered in your SIM card since when u put SIM In any phone that becomes the device that shows up in your account .Or do the Individuals that traded pay for there original phone even tho it is now registering on your sin and account .
And if not is it possible for the both to call tmobile and say they want the swapped phones to become the phones they want to pay for .Just to safeguard each others now swapped phones from non Eip payments and Imei block.
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Confusing.
But here is how it works.
Your person A is buying a phone and paying on it, then sell it to person B.
Person B will be out of luck if person A stops paying.
Tmobile really doesn't let you transfer payments of a phone. The way they see it is that it's not your phone till it's paid for.
Trust me on this. A friend got burnt on this and end up with a blacklisted phone for $300
I imagine they won't let you do this until you pay off your current phone.
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I imagine they won't let you do this until you pay off your current phone.
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I certainly think it would be advisable to pay off the phones first, even if TMO allows the practice. It is simply cleaner for all involved.
You pay your eip and other guy pays his. Tmobile doesn't care what phone you are using. For eg..I had an S4 which I bought on eip, but sold it. I'm still paying the eip for that even though I am using the One which I bought for full price. If you buy a phone thru eip, you will pay the $20 for the next 24 months irrespective of you keep, sell, trade or throw your device.
Bottom line T-Mobile doesn't care what phone you use as long as your eip payments are made properly. The only issue happens when you trade and the other guy stops paying his eip. I believe T-Mobile can blacklist that imei. So the answer to your question, the payment you make always goes to the original phone you bought on eip, not the phone your SIM is in. Think about it, if you put your sim in a device which was paid off full, will T-Mobile stop taking the $20 eip from you? No.
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Think of EIP as a credit card (with $0 fee & 0% interest)
You are responsible for what you purchase and what you do with it afterwards is your business. (Trade, sell, etc)
That does not alleviate you from paying off your balance for what you purchased.
An IMEI can be blacklisted if the account goes into canceled status and the balance is not paid; or if the device is reported lost/stolen (this can be done by either Tmo or Assurion)
There is a high risk of getting a blacklisted (or soon to be blacklisted) device when buying on CL or just off a street corner.
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Confusing.
But here is how it works.
Your person A is buying a phone and paying on it, then sell it to person B.
Person B will be out of luck if person A stops paying.
Tmobile really doesn't let you transfer payments of a phone. The way they see it is that it's not your phone till it's paid for.
Trust me on this. A friend got burnt on this and end up with a blacklisted phone for $300
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I can confirm this post as being correct. I am a tmobile rep.
Tmobile will not transfer or trade eip from one account to another. For any reason.
The money you owe on eip is attached to the account not the phone itself.
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I can confirm they will not transfer an eip under any circumstances. I just had a friend take an assumption of liability on my account. I specifically asked the rep (who spoke very poor English) if this could be done, if not there was no reason to go through. She said yes it could. Well apparently not I called back several times and what ended up happening is my friend ended up with both my lines and no phone, he was not happy . It was a giant mess and they wouldn't even let me keep doing the installment plan, only pay the device off immediately. Thank goodness I was still under the Buyers Remorse period so I just mailed it back, but my friend missed out on a one week old GS4 with the down payment and taxes made. As a good gesture I did take back over the line and termed it out myself.
Simply put if im correct...your balance is your balance and his balance is his balance. If something goes south on your end ...the phone your using at that time is blacklisted and vice versa. EIP just is a extra curveball ib the trading game
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EIP clarification
The EIP payment stays on whatever account it was purchased on, regardless of which line or which account it is being used on. The only way to make EIP go away is to pay it off early or ride out all installments. Example: You could buy phone X, make one installment payment, then sell the phone. Person A is now using that phone. You still have 23 installment payments remaining on your account even if person A is using that phone. The smart thing to do would be to take whatever money you made from selling the phone and put it towards your remaining EIP balance. That will free up EIP availability towards your next purchase. You could either do that or simply put that extra money down on a new device. Bottom Line: regardless of who owns the phone or is using it, EIP stays on the account from which it was purchased.
Hope that clears it up. I went round and round with my local store to finally come to this understanding. Thanks!
I bought a phone off someone from Craigslist. The EIP program was new and I had just switched to T-Mobile so I didn't even think of this happening. Needless to say, I'm out money and I have a shiny new coaster instead of a smartphone. All because that person stopped paying their EIP.
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Bottom Line: regardless of who owns the phone or is using it, EIP stays on the account from which it was purchased.
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THIS. it doesn't matter if the IMEI/ESN is clean at the time of purchase like it is on Sprint/Verizon. the IMEI and really the phone are tied to the original buyer forever. it doesn't matter if he never activated the phone because they scan the IMEI on the box at the time of purchase.
there is no way to transfer ownership of the phone in T-mobiles eyes, ever. I once asked it i could report a phone stolen that i had sold to a guy over 2 years ago and have that IMEI blocked. answer was yes without question.
Be safe buying used phones people. demand a receipt or proof the phone has been paid off in full or walk away. Deals can be too good to be true.
Ok about a month ago, I wanted to switch from T-Mobile because the rural coverage was pretty garbage. Edge speed was so slow, it would not load a single page.
I walked into the AT&T store with my unlocked HTC One, and wanted to sign up for service. At first they were cool with it, and then the balked... "If you trade in this phone and pay an additional $26, you can have the black one which is guaranteed to work on this network". Now, I was ANIMATE at the time about not signing a 2 year contract. I brought my own phone, so there was NO REASON to sign up. At no point did he indicate that I was required to sign up for a 2 year contract to receive this black phone, when I just traded in the exact same phone in perfect condition which was only 2 weeks old.
After I got my first bill, I was on the website checking out my features. It says I am eligible for upgrade in 2015... meaning, I am on a 2 year agreement. I did NOT want to be on any agreement like this, so I need to know what my options are.
Thanks.
EDIT/UPDATE: This was an authorized dealer, not an AT&T corporate store. I honestly did not know they were different - they look exactly the same. Either way, I got a refund, and was allowed to keep the phone even though I canceled service immediately. I went back to T-Mobile as they were always pretty awesome (just the coverage in rural areas is still going to burn).
Have you called anyone at AT&T to verify your suspicion?
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Ok about a month ago, I wanted to switch from T-Mobile because the rural coverage was pretty garbage. Edge speed was so slow, it would not load a single page.
I walked into the AT&T store with my unlocked HTC One, and wanted to sign up for service. At first they were cool with it, and then the balked... "If you trade in this phone and pay an additional $26, you can have the black one which is guaranteed to work on this network". Now, I was ANIMATE at the time about not signing a 2 year contract. I brought my own phone, so there was NO REASON to sign up. At no point did he indicate that I was required to sign up for a 2 year contract to receive this black phone, when I just traded in the exact same phone in perfect condition which was only 2 weeks old.
After I got my first bill, I was on the website checking out my features. It says I am eligible for upgrade in 2015... meaning, I am on a 2 year agreement. I did NOT want to be on any agreement like this, so I need to know what my options are.
Thanks.
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Yea, you got taken to the cleaners on that one.
Your only option of getting out of the contract is to return the device and cancel service before the trial period ends. That means porting out to save your number if you came from T-Mobile with the line.
As far as getting your old device back... well, good luck:cyclops:
Was it unethical by AT&T, yes.
However, you were a bit gullible there, the portion of trading in your phone was a HUGE red flag:silly:
You never get an AT&T device subsidized without ending up in contract, period.
The point made about even exchange is simply mute.. When taking advantage of the trade in, you only get trade in value, not the $600+ MSRP. And the trade in value 'may' have cancelled out the AT&T branded device, however, you still got taken to the cleaners on this deal.
The sales people in stores get paid by signing up people to contracts. I don't think it was At&t as a whole that screwed you but that particular salesperson F'd you good to get paid.
Just check your paperwork and make sure you didn't sign anything showing a contract. Your best bet is to raise holy hell in the store with the manager and single out this salesperson. If that doesn't work move on to corporate. Good luck.
You didn't get swindled. If they gave you a device at a subsidized priced (which they did) you physically signed a 2 yr agreement. Did you not read what you signed?
I can't say I feel bad for you at all. Common sense.
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You didn't get swindled. If they gave you a device at a
The only thing I signed was a touchpad thing asking permission to port my number. The guy said they waved my activation fee because I brought my own phone.
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Now you say you were animate about bot signing up for a contract. Does that mean you informed the sales rep that you weren't interested in a contract? If so then yes, the sales rep screwed you hard for not explaining that you would be entering a 2 year agreement if you traded for the black one.
However, you should have asked more questions about the deal to get a better understanding. But it does sound like the guy was trying to get you on a contract without you knowing, seeing that he tricked you into it by offering a simple color change.
If this was less than 14 days ago go into the store and raise hell on earth, you will garuanteed be able to return the phone. As for getting your old phone back, I'm sure you signed something about it saying all trade ins are final. If it's been over 14 days....good luck. Trying to return a phone after that to AT&T is near impossible..good luck!
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Jeez , at worst you could have sold your tmobile one for like $450 and bought the black one on contract for $199 like normal.
ATT def screwed you on this one.
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Ok about a month ago, I wanted to switch from T-Mobile because the rural coverage was pretty garbage. Edge speed was so slow, it would not load a single page.
I walked into the AT&T store with my unlocked HTC One, and wanted to sign up for service. At first they were cool with it, and then the balked... "If you trade in this phone and pay an additional $26, you can have the black one which is guaranteed to work on this network". Now, I was ADAMANT at the time about not signing a 2 year contract. I brought my own phone, so there was NO REASON to sign up. At no point did he indicate that I was required to sign up for a 2 year contract to receive this black phone, when I just traded in the exact same phone in perfect condition which was only 2 weeks old.
After I got my first bill, I was on the website checking out my features. It says I am eligible for upgrade in 2015... meaning, I am on a 2 year agreement. I did NOT want to be on any agreement like this, so I need to know what my options are.
Thanks.
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Fixed
CraigP17 said:
You didn't get swindled. If they gave you a device at a subsidized priced (which they did) you physically signed a 2 yr agreement. Did you not read what you signed?
I can't say I feel bad for you at all. Common sense.
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This! You messed up... Just think. Why would they do that?
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The Project said:
This! You messed up... Just think. Why would they do that?
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The AT&T store admitted guilt to me, however, they said they could do nothing since I am past the 14 day return policy. Basically the guy had me sign a 2 year contract while masking it as a phone SWAP and not a subsidy purchase.
So ya, to the above posters - AT&T was at fault. The credited my account with the value of the phone, minus the 2 year agreement price.
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This! You messed up... Just think. Why would they do that?
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Why would THEY do that?! You serious? The lady on the phone at AT&T said this was not a corporate store, and they were commission hungry. Case closed.
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Why would THEY do that?! You serious? The lady on the phone at AT&T said this was not a corporate store, and they were commission hungry. Case closed.
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Everybody knows that when you receive a device at a lower price = conract. You do understand that the contract is what gets them their money back that they lost on the phone.
Do you honestly think they would stay in business if they did what they did for OP every time?
OP ya blew it, don't go blaming that sales rep. He knows he is right, and if you have ever worked in customer service you know that arguing with the customer is a waste of time.
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Everybody knows that when you receive a device at a lower price = conract. You do understand that the contract is what gets them their money back that they lost on the phone.
Do you honestly think they would stay in business if they did what they did for OP every time?
OP ya blew it, don't go blaming that sales rep. He knows he is right, and if you have ever worked in customer service you know that arguing with the customer is a waste of time.
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I won't go blaming the sales rep who was fired for doing this to multiple customers in the last 2 months. Gotcha. Ok buddy You know everything. He was masking a 2 years subsidy with a phone swap, claiming the phones wouldnt work on AT&T. When a sales rep says its a swap and would not require a 2 year contract, you tend to believe him. The phones worked fine on AT&T, and he was just cashing commission checks at the expense of the customers. A few people figured it out in the 14 day return period, but I did not think to look at my bill.
So basically you are wrong
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I won't go blaming the sales rep who was fired for doing this to multiple customers in the last 2 months. Gotcha. Ok buddy You know everything. He was masking a 2 years subsidy with a phone swap, claiming the phones wouldnt work on AT&T. When a sales rep says its a swap and would not require a 2 year contract, you tend to believe him. The phones worked fine on AT&T, and he was just cashing commission checks at the expense of the customers. A few people figured it out in the 14 day return period, but I did not think to look at my bill.
So basically you are wrong
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You are assuming he was fired. You think he did something wrong, he really didn't. They just want you to feel like a big boy that didn't get tricked bye
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psufan5 said:
The AT&T store admitted guilt to me, however, they said they could do nothing since I am past the 14 day return policy. Basically the guy had me sign a 2 year contract while masking it as a phone SWAP and not a subsidy purchase.
So ya, to the above posters - AT&T was at fault. The credited my account with the value of the phone, minus the 2 year agreement price.
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Are you saying that even after them admitting guilt, you still ended up with a 2 year contract?
There's a sucker born every minute. OP deserves what he got.
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There's a sucker born every minute. OP deserves what he got.
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Deserved what I got? Are you retarded?!
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Deserved what I got? Are you retarded?!
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Hell no you don't. A phone swap pretty much implies he shouldn't be getting a contract. Why would someone think "oh if I give them my phone for a phone gaurenteed to work on this network, esentially buying it at full price, it's a contract?" Some people here need to not be such jerks about this.
OP, I'm glad they credited your account and you got it sorted out. Good for you
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Hell no you don't. A phone swap pretty much implies he shouldn't be getting a contract. Why would someone think "oh if I give them my phone for a phone gaurenteed to work on this network, esentially buying it at full price, it's a contract?" Some people here need to not be such jerks about this.
OP, I'm glad they credited your account and you got it sorted out. Good for you
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Pro-tip: OP might be lying
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