So I stumbled across this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2087129
GPU performance seems to be similar to N10.
Discuss.
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Well, those are great news, if we sort out the throttling problem we should be able to play all of the Tegra 4 games, I thought the difference would be bigger given that we can't decode 4K videos and the T4 can.
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First Tegra 4 GLBenchmark . Discuss.
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What's to discuss? According to Nvidia, Teg4 is now scheduled to appear in a hand-held game console "mid-year." That's six-months later than "Q4 2012" given for “Wayne” when they provided their last update. And they’ve been three to six months late for every SoC they’ve ever released. There's also been no mention of its appearance in tablets or phones. Vizio had a 10" "manufacturing concept" tablet at CES running Teg4 and 4.2 that reporters weren't allowed to use but were shown a 1080P movie playing back. Vizio said they haven’t even committed to building it yet so it’s not a real device.
So by the time Teg4 ships in some form Teg3 will be eighteen months old which in "chip years" is a decade. It has become the go-to SoC for cheap tablets. Exynos 5 Quad and Krait v3 (an enhanced S4 Pro) will both be out in Q1. LG and HTC used Teg3 in one phone each and have both moved on to Qualcomm. Samsung's on record as saying "we have no relationship with Nvidia" so there goes 70% of the Android market. So by the time Teg4 finally arrives will any of the OEM's care? And Nvidia's funky proprietary graphics and low-level power control drivers screwed up the launch of both Asus tablets and the Teg3 One X. Unless it's cheap what problem is it solving for anyone? Nvidia’s so under-resourced and so far behind Qualcomm and Samsung (who now has extra capacity since Apple’s moving to TSMC) that I think they’re bordering on irrelevant in mobile devices.
Here's what the press said about Nvidia's launch event today. They weren't impressed.
http://www.zdnet.com/nvidias-ces-2013-clunker-its-not-easy-going-cloud-7000009470/
Barry, would it be fair to say that the reason nVidia is 'late' may be due to their release cycle being meant for OEMs, not consumers?
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...if we sort out the throttling problem we should be able to play all of the Tegra 4 games
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Unless said Tegra 4 games are THD/Tegra-exclusive, in which case, the N10 won't be able to run them :/
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Unless said Tegra 4 games are THD/Tegra-exclusive, in which case, the N10 won't be able to run them :/
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With a small game files edit all Tegra exclusives run on other chips.
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Barry, would it be fair to say that the reason nVidia is 'late' may be due to their release cycle being meant for OEMs, not consumers?
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Possibly but regardless they are late to the game with tegra as the other chip makers are moving on to their next thing. Nvidia isn't up to speed when it comes to the mobile space which right now is advancing rapidly like desktop space did years ago before things settled down. Mobile space these days if you don't get out first or second then your screwed, the mobile space is making small leaps every 8-12 months not the 12-18 nvidia is use to.
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Considering nVidia's history of hyping their below average GPUs like hell months before it's release, this doesn't really surprise me..
Tegra 2 only lasted for 6-9 months and now Tegra 3 has to hold for like 20 months. What's really bugging me is that they get their chip out 6 or more months after Exynos 5 Dual, yet they are similar on GPU performance. Exynos 5 Quad will absolutely destroy it and maybe even the upcoming Snapdragon 800.
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At least T4 finally has dual-channel memory ^^.
Nvidia is always late to market with their Tegra chips. 2 and 3 were both waaay overhyped, especially 2, being the laggy piece of junk that it is. Can't even decode 720p video properly without skipping frames. I'll stick to my awesome Exynos 5.
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Nvidia's Quad Core Tegra 3, dubbed "Kal-El", processor is being released sometime this fall, with Motorola likely being the first to ship out Kal-El tablets. It's supposed to be 5 times better than Tegra 2 and still be battery friendly... If you have not yet heard of it, and are still unaware of its epicness, check out this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBvaDtshLY8&feature=youtube_gdata_player , this is a video of a game demonstrating the awesome powers of Kal-El. It's AMAZING, and supposedly, the final production model of the chip will be some 30% faster...
C'mon technology, take a break for a bit...
So seeing that our Galaxy Tab 10.1 will soon be old news, what do you think about Kal-El?
Here we go again ...... lots of opinions on this in the TF forums.
There will always be something new around the corner and I'm not falling for the numbers game any more
first it was ghz war for processors
Then how many cores can fit on a cpu yet most software failed to take any advantage
Then cameras and the megapixel wars which went up while sensor size stayed the same and pix quality got worse
Software needs to be streamlined well before any real use advantage will be seen.
However apart from the odd game who really needs a quad core tablet, yes its nice to have but not essential
If I want to photo edit I'll use photoshop I'm my pc, if I want to video edit I'll goto the pc, if I want to watch hd video I'll do it via my media streamer
If I want to browse the web or view emails or play the odd game or watch a short film I'll use my dual core tablet or hell my single core galaxy s they both manage it extremely well.
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I will wait to see what Asus and Samsung have in store before considering upgrading my galaxy tab.
I agree, there really isn't much of a point in having a quad core tablet, at least in MY opinion... It is pretty impressive though.
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I'll wait until there's a fantastic price on the next-gen tablet (like the staples $100 off coupon). Once it hits the sweet spot (@$150 difference between the sale price on a next-gen and the craigslist value of my GT10), I'll buy. I'm guessing it will be around January or February. Until then, I really hope I don't have to see too many more of these threads asking if I need to upgrade already...
This soon is just too far away for me. If this soon would mean this month then i would start thinking about it.
As no manufacturer hasn't even announced any kal el tablets, it's very long wait until we see them in shops.
You'll see it first from Amazon, imho, by the end of the year.
But who cares? The heavy lifting on these devices is media and you dont need more cores for that and it'll always be handled by dedicated silicon. So what do more cores get you? Not every one faps to quadrant.
When I upgraded from the nexus one to my htc sensation i did so for the qhd display and better media and camera capabilities. Two cores, not a big deal.
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Man I just bought the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and found out there is going to be a quad core cpu in a few months. Well I will definitely want this and probably sell my Tab 10.1 on craigslist for hopefully 350-400. I will wait till Samsung comes out with their Tab version on Kal-El.
im still trying to figure out how to bypass the stupid SIM activation screen on my LTE verizon tab and or root it but its a pain.
quad is nice to have... but right now even with the dual core tabs out there is hardly any apps out that take full advantage of the hardware, only few. Now we're dealing with quad when devs are just starting to focus on dual.
Quad core would be even nicer with more ram, 1GB ram still doesnt seem to cut it.
The galaxy nexus is getting a very old powervr sgx 540 gpu, all htc's phones cant run a decent game smoothly, not to mention motorola's phones.
Nvidia is not really serios about it's gpu's, i feel that even the kal-el is going to be a failure.
Not to mention qualcomm or any other chip manufacturers.
what really bothers me is that if i want the most recent gaming i have to buy an apple device, iphone/ipad and im really not going to trade android for ios.
the powervr 543mp2 outclassed every gpu and will be better than the upcoming gpus.
And just before a new and better gpu is released, apple will build the a6 architecture including a new powervr chip with better graphics for at least a year.
Can anybody explain this situation?
Doesn't bother me one bit, the GPU could go to better use eg rendering the launcher and aiding with video playback, but as for gaming I couldn't care less, have my PSP and PC for that.
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Bro.. galaxy nexus using powervr540 with 384mhz clock! Normal device using 200mhz. If you overclock your graphic, the max it can go is 240mhz.
HTC normally using Qualcomm with adreno gpu. That's why it is slow. A galaxy nexus s using arm (optimize for battery with full speed) and powervr.
If a developer develop a game only for superhigh end devices, I don't think he will gain income. No one is going to play the super high end game that only applicable in dual core device.
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thats not true, most developers will develope it for the ipad and then port it over to android, while it still stuttering as hell, or decrease the quality of the textures.
its true that the powervr540 is now clocked at 380mhz but you forgot that it has so much more pixels to render, so its actually the same thing.
i still cant understand why i dont get to choose to have the best gpu with android, why is only apple buying the best gpus in the market? are the other manufacturers stupid or they just want us to replace our phones faster?
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just to prove my thoughts about the galaxy nexus:
http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare....Samsung GT-i9100 Galaxy S2&D4=Apple iPhone 4S
I suppose apple are lucky they,ve only 1 os to push out to the 3 items, and apple are just 1 company, is it maybe the gpu makers respect apple more, as for android, u hav so many phones, so many companies, so maybe that amounts to less quality, i own a htc desire and a asus tf, the games i hav on my transformer are amazing, so if its not running to its full capacity, then im scared to think how much better it could be, tho didnt they say ics will take advantage of the gpu.
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umm doesnt Samsung make Apples chips?
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umm doesnt Samsung make Apples chips?
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Yes, and Apple was stupid enough to try to sue them.
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Yes, and Apple was stupid enough to try to sue them.
Posted or Swyped from either my SGS or Optimus T
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I swear the Captivates GPU is one of the most powerful ones out there.! i love it
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I suppose apple are lucky they,ve only 1 os to push out to the 3 items, and apple are just 1 company, is it maybe the gpu makers respect apple more, as for android, u hav so many phones, so many companies, so maybe that amounts to less quality, i own a htc desire and a asus tf, the games i hav on my transformer are amazing, so if its not running to its full capacity, then im scared to think how much better it could be, tho didnt they say ics will take advantage of the gpu.
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"If it's not running to ots full capacity"?
Its not getting 1/3 of what the ipad 2 gets, not only with fps, but with the quality of the texures and more.
I see that you've never seen a game running on the ipad.
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"If it's not running to ots full capacity"?
Its not getting 1/3 of what the ipad 2 gets, not only with fps, but with the quality of the texures and more.
I see that you've never seen a game running on the ipad.
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You should go back to apple if you are interested in it. What iPhone can play = what we can play.
What ipad can play = what we can play.
But what we can play, ipad can't play. We can play playstation game on android, but apple can't.
And pure Google phone is different from dirty Google phone. You should find out more on pure Google phone that FULLY optimize for ICS or Google Rom
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Your right and i dont want too either, i love android and dont want to pay over the odds just for a silly apple logo, my days off being cool are over, i,d much rather pay 500 less for something that does as just a good job, forget apple, android is grounfbreaking and kicking apples ass, and they dont like it
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Not true Motorola have plenty of android powerful with powervrchip .Droid 1, 530 Droid 2, Droid x and droid 2 global. All 3 had 535 same as iphone 4. Droid 3 which was first arm 9 and powervr chip @540. Droid x2 and atrix runs tegra 2. It depends on your taste. Samsung only have galaxy s and galaxy s2 as it gaming phone.
Droid 1 was the first gaming device and powervrchip 530/arm8 on android to compete with the iphone in 2009. First to be overclock to 1ghz speed in feb 2010 and first 1.4ghz speed in July 2010. Beside Nexus One having 1ghz speed as default. Fyi my htc g2 doesnt lag on gaming i think sense ui, make the lag on the os. As my phone near pure google.
Dont forget Sony have its Xperia Play run adreno 205 like on my htc g2 , phone with adreno will as fast as manufacture or you mod want it to be.
Wow,in 2011 there were only crap gpus compared to today's mali t604 and powervr SGX 544mp3...
Android gaming evolved incredibly fast past year.
Well my moms buying me a tablet for my birthday/Christmas present and idk if I should get this one I have it preordered on newegg but idk convince me please
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I say you should wait for Wayne.
What can kal-el+ bring that you missing in Prime?
When it's come to electronic there are always better things around the corner. If you want a tablet now you buy Prime.
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I figured as much!
Yeah then later i will get a new phone as i have an upgrade waiting im just waiting for sprint to release new phones!
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I'd say get the prime and sit on it for 2 years till 2014. That's when the latest ultimate Nvidia chipset will be released called Stark. Even more powerful than Wayne. Nvidia showed there future chart of chips and officially announced the Stark chip. It comes after Wayne. It's said it will be 100x more powerful than Tegra 2. They said that's the equivalent to having 4 Pc cores over clocked to 3.5GHz or faster. Now that's the power I want n will wait for once I get my hands on a prime. I believe in the apple gpu is better thread there is a link someone(jeewong) posted to this info Nvidia revealed. Nvidia has big plans to take over high powered mobile chipsets. Can't wait to see what the future will bring.
There's no real point in waiting for Kal-El+ if you ask me. This time next year, the Cortex A15 processors will drop by, bringing out-of-order execution and ARM's bigLITTLE technology (which uses low power A7 cores much like Nvidia's companion core, but a more sophisticated implementation). After that, processors based on the 64-bit ARMv8 will arrive (my guess is that Stark will be ARMv8, but it's just a guess).
New tech will arrive all the time. If you need a tablet now, buy it now.
i think you should wait
until i get my prime, and then you can order one for yourself.
but as with all tech, there's always something better on the horizon, you need to find something you like, and bite the bullet and enjoy it at some point, and so far the prime looks to be a great tablet.
I'm sure this news will be frustrating to hear from many Nexus 10 owners, I am still going through replacements to get a good screen without light bleed and dead pixels and then I hear about this.
Thoughts ??
The popular tablet already features a decently fast 1.7GHz dual-core Exynos processor alongside a Mali-T604 GPU. However, new rumors suggest that it will soon beef up with a quad-core processor and a brand new 8-core Mali-T678 GPU.
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Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/490480/google-nexus-10-to-receive-major-upgrades-more-power/
Wow...
mattzildjian said:
I'm sure this news will be frustrating to hear from many Nexus 10 owners.
The popular tablet already features a decently fast 1.7GHz dual-core Exynos processor alongside a Mali-T604 GPU. However, new rumors suggest that it will soon beef up with a quad-core processor and a brand new 8-core Mali-T678 GPU.
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/490480/google-nexus-10-to-receive-major-upgrades-more-power/
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I hate to be "that guy" but I'm going to be "that guy".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2111301
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2109422
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108875
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I hate to be "that guy" but I'm going to be "that guy".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2111301
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2109422
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108875
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I am surprised none of these are on the front page of general, none of them even showed up in the similar posts when I was making this thread.
because next to no one else is really reporting it. so complete rumour/potential bs at this point.
this wont come out till the fall anyway... 1 year life cycle is typical isnt it?
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this wont come out till the fall anyway... 1 year life cycle is typical isnt it?
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Very typical. The problem is the terrible source story is written like Google is going to have a girl in a bikini pop out of a cake and deliver this new device on the shelves of Walmart in a few weeks with a card in the package telling early adopters to eat crap.
Fourth thread to say the exact same thing with absolultely no credible sources for any of the info stated.
"New rumors suggest" = flimsy puff piece. And do you guys typically get breaking Android news from sites like "thebrightsideofthenews.com" and the "inquisitr.com?" I sure don't. And like styckx said above, use the friggin search button or at least take time to review the front page because all three other threads discussing this very same issue are on it.
Wow im happy finally that I didn't go with nexus 10 mali t 678 would be a beast somewhere 3 times powerful than current nexus 10s gpu mali t604
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Wow im happy finally that I didn't go with nexus 10 mali t 678 would be a beast somewhere 3 times powerful than current nexus 10s gpu mali t604
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Maybe, but the market will pretty much always be like this. I wouldn't get too bogged down in those specs for a tablet.
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Wow im happy finally that I didn't go with nexus 10 mali t 678 would be a beast somewhere 3 times powerful than current nexus 10s gpu mali t604
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...and 3-4 months after that there will be rumors of the next big thing. Such is the mobile tech market. If your constantly waiting for the next best one, you will never have anything.
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...and 3-4 months after that there will be rumors of the next big thing. Such is the mobile tech market. If your constantly waiting for the next best one, you will never have anything.
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^ So much this.
I used to work for Circuit City and I'd have to deal with this constantly. I was there for two years and I saw some of the same few customers two years later still "shopping" for a new TV that I saw shopping for a new TV my first month with the company. It got to the point I didn't even acknowledge them anymore and my boss didn't comprehend they were in the redundant technology chasing black hole. They'd constantly come in with notebooks (the worst customers are notebook customers) full of specs and charts and graphics and comparisons, print outs from the internet of reviews etc etc etc.. Holy crap I'm just annoyed even reminiscing about it.
I truly respect anyone who can make a living selling technology because it's one of the worst sales jobs next to selling mattresses. Which I've also done.
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Maybe, but the market will pretty much always be like this. I wouldn't get too bogged down in those specs for a tablet.
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Sure you can run Starcraft II HOTS on your tablet, or Skyrim, or DmC...
oh wait you will be running Shadowgun at most, like any other...
Not going to be that person to brave the waters of this new Nexus 10. It could prove to be disasterous. Take the Transformer Infinity for example. The Transformer Prime was great in terms of processing and smoothness, but Asus messed up the Infinity tablet to the point that it had major I/O / lag issues. I owned the Prime and not the Infinity so I'm basing the Infinity performance on what people has said in these forums.
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Take the Transformer Infinity for example. The Transformer Prime was great in terms of processing and smoothness, but Asus messed up the Infinity tablet to the point that it had major I/O / lag issues. I owned the Prime and not the Infinity so I'm basing the Infinity performance on what people has said in these forums.
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Damn I really needed a laugh today, as a former owner of both the 201 and 700, between the two I had, C1/C6 there was no comparison in which was better. Wifi/BT/GPS was horrendous on my C1 not to mention the screen upgrade. Doesn't really matter though, both have pitiful I/O performance which has been well documented I'm only going to link a few but man LOL
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...hmark-11-modern-devices-compared-in-13-tests/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1595531
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1757765
Even if they upgrade the hardware in 6 months, I'd still take my N10 over my old 201 & 700 any day of the week!
More recently users have been noticing very poor performance with ASUS Android tablets whenever there's substantial background IO going on, particularly multitasking while writes are taking place (e.g. downloading a torrent and browsing the web). The slowdowns range from multi-second long pauses to sluggish response time.
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So what, tech gets updated fast, you will never have the best in the market for a very long time.
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I was an early adopter of the Nexus 7 (8GB), and it ended up being discontinued shortly after I bought it and then the 16GB takes its place with the same price...
Really hoping a new Nexus 10 doesn't surface this quickly :/
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I was an early adopter of the Nexus 7 (8GB), and it ended up being discontinued shortly after I bought it and then the 16GB takes its place with the same price...
Really hoping a new Nexus 10 doesn't surface this quickly :/
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Same here I was a little irked getting the 16 at $250 then the 32GB was out but what can you do, I highly doubt we'll see a hardware revision until at least Google I/O
Such is the technology world. Don't get to upset over rumors of a beefier n10. I'd be inclined to guess that this won't happen until late 2013, if it happens at all. If a new and amazingly better n10 comes out q4 2013, it will be very easy to sell your current n10 and grab the new one. Just my .02.... BC this is what I would do. This happens (as a poster stated before) with electronics. Not big news.
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Could Google be announcing the next Nexus 10 at Mobile World Congress?
CES 2013 has just come to an end and there are already rumors about for Mobile World Congress 2013. Among them is potential news for the next generation of Google’s Nexus 10.
Google did very well in the tablet market in 2012 by producing good tablets at a decent cost. More people could afford them and their specs helped them work well. The Nexus 10 second generation could be a lot more interesting.
The rumor comes from Theo Valich from Bright Side of News. If the rumors prove true, then the Nexus 10 second gen is going to be a beast of a tablet. At a quick glance, here are some of the rumored specs.
Mali T678 GPGPU
2GB RAM
Support for OpenCL 1.1, OpenGL ES 1.1/2.0/3.0, and Google’s Renderscript Compute
As you can see, there isn’t a lot there. However, if these rumors prove to be true, the Nexus 10 2 could be the most powerful tablet produced so far. Things like screen resolution, storage sizes, CPU, and other specs haven’t been mentioned yet, so there is still room for a pitfall or two when the final design comes out.
Are any of these Nexus 10 2 rumors true?
It’s hard to say. Theo Valich has claimed to have played with an unfinished version of the Nexus 10 2. However, the specs so far have been a mix of rumor and speculation. So, as usual, take it as it is since it is an unconfirmed rumor. It’s nice to daydream about such things. However, the 2GB of RAM should prove true as it’s the current standard for Android devices.
One thing for sure is that we’ll know more about it eventually. With Google I/O coming up soon, it’s hard to imagine Google announcing a Nexus device at another tech conference. Do you think MWC 2013 will hold some new Google magic or will Google be saving it for Google I/O? More importantly, are any of these specs believable or possible? Let us know your thoughts.
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What do you think? I just ordering my Nexus 10, should I cancel it? :crying:
I very much want a nexus 10, but I am wondering how the performance compares to say tega 3 and 4? If I bought one will it be pretty much useless a year from now? I am especially worried because its only dual core. (and I have no idea how the graphic chip compares). Its already been out 6 months and while its still the current tablet, history shows after a year a tablet is pretty much obsolete.
Also is it responsive? I've looked up videos but is it better than a nexus 7 atleast? (currently I have a nexus 7 but want a bigger tablet).
Do you guys feel its worth $400+?
it s not worth it .
the problem its with the 2gb ram ( 400 mb free true ) this i think its related with the frequent restarts and freeze .
this is not for you ... wait for something better if you want future .
go here next time http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2267362
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From N7 to N10 you can feel the difference. (I use Gnex, N4, N7 & N10)
It is all depends on your usage pattern. For me, it is fast enough (browsing, reading, movies) others might not think the same.
The point is, you need to identify what you really need in 10 inch tablet in reference of your usage.
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The tegra chips aren't that good actually. They are mostly hyped up by Nvidia.
The only plus for them are the exclusive games.
If the Tegra 4 will be better is something which we don't know yet.
Actually, I think the hardware is quite capable, it's the software that I think needs improvement. Before I got my N10, I had an Asus Transformer, like the grandpappy of tablets. The N10 blows it out of the water. I replaced my Asus after 1.5 years, I can see me keeping the N10 a lot longer.
samwheat said:
it s not worth it .
the problem its with the 2gb ram ( 400 mb free true ) this i think its related with the frequent restarts and freeze .
this is not for you ... wait for something better if you want future .
go here next time http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2267362
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Dumbest thing I've ever read. Although not surprising from reading your previous comments.
This thing has a dual core A15 processor, nothing like the quad core A9s that people seem to think are better. Plus, the GPU is nothing to scoff at either. This thing will be around for a long time. I mean, hell, look at the XOOM. That thing has been around forever and even got JB.
Don't forget about the granddaddy of them all...the moto xyboard!
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Don't forget about the granddaddy of them all...the moto xyboard!
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Xoom was first - Xyboard followed. Xoom introduced Honeycomb to the world (which thankfully was very short lived). And yes the Xoom is still cruising along on 4.2.2, and performs far better than when it was right out of the box. I'm waiting for an updated N10 in the fall (or N11 as the rumours go) to finally replace the Xoom.
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Absolutely. Technology always changes and gets better. The only time I experience any lag on this tablet is when the app itself is poorly designed. Web browsing has never lagged once, even on the stock ROM.
It does everything I want it to and more. I'm also happy to know I'll be receiving the latest OS updates lightning fast.
why people get upsad when others are saying their opinions and they dont come with arguments in compare ?
Sorry kids ! i was wrong ... our candy Nexus 10 has 4gb ram . It s planty for the future . It was an error from me and Its not lagging its just freeze and restarts .
Another problem that i thought its that it have only 32gb ... it haves 64 in reality..
Sorry again ! please fogive me !
Better ? please don t cry !
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beware of tegra 4 ... better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiIL-RjLUMw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
search before talk
the only little future of this tablet stays in the developers work ... if they want to
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That "comparison" between the Nexus 10 and Tegra 4 is wrong on so many levels...heck they are not even using the same browser. NVIDIA hype machine is in full swing...
In addition the demo is from Nvidia. AFAIK there aren't any unbiased benchmarks out yet.
firesoul453 said:
I very much want a nexus 10, but I am wondering how the performance compares to say tega 3 and 4? If I bought one will it be pretty much useless a year from now? I am especially worried because its only dual core. (and I have no idea how the graphic chip compares). Its already been out 6 months and while its still the current tablet, history shows after a year a tablet is pretty much obsolete.
Also is it responsive? I've looked up videos but is it better than a nexus 7 atleast? (currently I have a nexus 7 but want a bigger tablet).
Do you guys feel its worth $400+?
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From my perspective, if you can wait, I strongly recommend you wait. The next nexus 10 will surely pack a quad core A15 chip alongside a much improved GPU. While the T604 GPU is no slouch, the next iteration is going to be better.
Given the mixed bag I've seen in terms of hardware quality (e.g., freezing, restarts, etc), it also makes me question Samsung's reliability for producing these things.
With all things, my preference is to always try and skip the first generation, if you can withhold the temptation. =)
It's already May. It's about 5 more months till the next announcement of the N10 is out. Every day you spend pondering the question is definitely another day that makes picking up the current N10 less worthwhile.
You can always wait for the next big thing which most of the time will be much better. The question you have to ask yourself is if you need the hardware now or not. If you DO need it, there is no point in waiting. You said it yourself, 5 months till the announcement and who knows how long till the next tablet will be availalbe to buy. In tech world that is a long time to wait.
In my opinion right now is a good time to buy mobile hardware (phone or tablet). Current hardware can run anything that's existing on the web and in the media world (HD streams, HD movies, etc etc). I do not see a dramatic web/content development coming that will push current hardware beyond its limits. It was very different a few months ago before current quad core chips and potent dual cores (in the case of the Nexus 10) made an appearence.
Gaming may be a different animal, but then again this depends on how you plan to use your tablet.
mrruin said:
You can always wait for the next big thing which most of the time will be much better. The question you have to ask yourself is if you need the hardware now or not. If you DO need it, there is no point in waiting. You said it yourself, 5 months till the announcement and who knows how long till the next tablet will be availalbe to buy. In tech world that is a long time to wait.
In my opinion right now is a good time to buy mobile hardware (phone or tablet). Current hardware can run anything that's existing on the web and in the media world (HD streams, HD movies, etc etc). I do not see a dramatic web/content development coming that will push current hardware beyond its limits. It was very different a few months ago before current quad core chips and potent dual cores (in the case of the Nexus 10) made an appearence.
Gaming may be a different animal, but then again this depends on how you plan to use your tablet.
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In my mind, many of us don't need a tablet. We justify wanting a tablet, but definitely not needing it. This is why I told OP, if he can wait, wait it out.
The next iteration is likely going to see improvements in the screen as well (e.g., maybe higher contrast ratio), etc.
5 months isn't too long. Just stop visiting the N10 forums. Problem solved.
samwheat said:
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beware of tegra 4 ... better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiIL-RjLUMw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
search before talk
the only little future of this tablet stays in the developers work ... if they want to
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Why would you post such a horribly done comparison? All you do is hate on the nexus 10 and yet you use one all the time apparently.
but anyway
Thanks everyone. I definitely don't need a 10" tablet (especially since I do have a nexus 7) but am certainly wanting one. but I guess I better wait for the next tablet to come out. I was hoping for a new tablet announced at google IO but am not surprised to not see one announced. I'm just impatient lol.
I bought one last week and will get it today. I couldn't decide for a long time and it out of stock here anyway. Atm there's nothing better in the market. And even though the Tablet Z is tempting as well it's not a Nexus.
I own an N7 as well by the way but I wanted a 10" tablet again because it works better for certain things (e.g. PDF)
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I don't understand why people are saying there's going to be an announcement in 5 months. Just because the thing will have been out for a year doesn't equal a refresh, and there were tons of rumors floating around for a new Nexus 7 at Google I/O and that never happened.
If you tell yourself you can wait, you'll be waiting for the rest of your life because technology moves and keeps moving. There's always going to be something better, and better is always in the eye of the beholder. Just because a new version of a tablet gets released doesn't all of a sudden make your perfectly good tablet any less great, and it certainly doesn't break it in any way.
If you can utilize a bigger tablet and want it now, just get it. Your circumstances and needs are way different than people here, and the people here are always going to tell you there's another one coming around the corner. Which there's absolutely no proof of anyway.
samwheat said:
bla bla
i hate liers
i want to see 2gb ram free ... to use it with my programs that i open .. not 300mb and boom ... restart
got it ?
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Free RAM is wasted RAM.
http://www.slimroms.net/index.php/faq/slimbean/238-why-do-i-have-less-memory-free-on-my-device