Last update for CM10 is 29.12 ?
And it went straight from a nightly to "stable" build.
It is quite silly to abandon one project if yet to be completed abruptly for another.
So like 10.1 will only get three quarters completion and dumped when 4.2.2 aosp code is released?
This is quite frankly utter madness.
A very good enough reason perhaps why ios versions are better polished.
Sadly disappointing.
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nothing was abandoned. no stable release exists for this tab suite (until all bugs are squashed) as of yet. i purposefully switched to cm-10.1 for nightly on this tab suite (after various feedback/observations from people).
either move, or wait till the remaining bugs are squashed (first in cm-10.1, which i will then also try my best to apply to cm10) for a possible stable release.
if you want faster progress, start working on it. any help which re-mediates bugs which are device specific are welcomed. this is not closed source. all of this is out in the open. if you want it, make it happen.
your tab was abandoned at official ICS. anything greater is a plus and a gift as far as i'm concerned and is willed by my passion to keep working on it (when everyone else has bailed).
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A very good enough reason perhaps why ios versions are better polished.
Sadly disappointing.
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Please go to ios if you expect things to be done for you. This is not constructive at all considering that you are bringing nothing to the table. As pershoot said, it is his passion is why we see anything past the gimped TW ICS that was official release by Samsung. Not only is Samsung done with our Tab, so is Google. pershoot worked his butt off to bring compatibility to the code that dropped support for us.
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nothing was abandoned. no stable release exists for this tab suite (until all bugs are squashed) as of yet. i purposefully switched to cm-10.1 for nightly on this tab suite (after various feedback/observations from people).
either move, or wait till the remaining bugs are squashed (first in cm-10.1, which i will then also try my best to apply to cm10) for a possible stable release.
if you want faster progress, start working on it. any help which re-mediates bugs which are device specific are welcomed. this is not closed source. all of this is out in the open. if you want it, make it happen.
your tab was abandoned at official ICS. anything greater is a plus and a gift as far as i'm concerned and is willed by my passion to keep working on it (when everyone else has bailed).
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I respect your skills and passions..but
The methodology used here is illogical at best and quite confusing at worst.
BY introducing 10.1 in the same chain of nightly sequences this too is causing a havoc as well.
Users are assuming by being led to assume..this is the continued CM10 build chain of updates.
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Serpentene said:
I respect your skills and passions..but
The methodology used here is illogical at best and quite confusing at worst.
BY introducing 10.1 in the same chain of nightly sequences this too is causing a havoc as well.
Users are assuming by being led to assume..this is the continued CM10 build chain of updates.
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think of it this way,
i enabled this tab to allow for the latest updates, one in which it would never see otherwise. this allows me to work on the latest and the not so latest, as it pertains to the device, in the public eye to allow for collaboration and feedback.
you don't want it, you do not have to flash. nothing is forced upon you.
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think of it this way,
i enabled this tab to allow for the latest updates, one in which it would never see otherwise. this allows me to work on the latest and the not so latest, as it pertains to the device, in the public eye to allow for collaboration and feedback.
you don't want it, you do not have to flash. nothing is forced upon you.
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You are absolutely right, I'm very pleased to have Your versions available to flash. We who are not so talented, should be grateful (and maybe also a little bit more humble ) Thank You! :good:
Just want to sat Thankyou to pershoot, with CM10.1 my tab is better than it has been in ages. Loads of respect for the talented people who keep our devices alive.
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The comment is not implied to be antagonistic but rather to question the logic and intentions set forth by the developer.
We all most certainly appreciate the passions of Pershoot and his work.
I personally thank him for answering.
When his fan base and other developers like him respect the work enough to adopt and invest in its contribution it then
Initiates itself into the hands of the global user community.
The community becomes dependant upon its completion. This is an ethical responsibility.
All reputation and notoriety is won or lost in this human principle.
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The comment is not implied to be antagonistic but rather to question the logic and intentions set forth by the developer.
We all most certainly appreciate the passions of Pershoot and his work.
I personally thank him for answering.
When his fan base and other developers like him respect the work enough to adopt and invest in its contribution it then
Initiates itself into the hands of the global user community.
The community becomes dependant upon its completion. This is an ethical responsibility.
All reputation and notoriety is won or lost in this human principle.
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Seriously...?
Pershoot,
Thanks a million for all the amazing work you and all the other developers are doing,
If you want to change version every week I'll just say "thank you". :good:
Serpentene said:
The comment is not implied to be antagonistic but rather to question the logic and intentions set forth by the developer.
We all most certainly appreciate the passions of Pershoot and his work.
I personally thank him for answering.
When his fan base and other developers like him respect the work enough to adopt and invest in its contribution it then
Initiates itself into the hands of the global user community.
The community becomes dependant upon its completion. This is an ethical responsibility.
All reputation and notoriety is won or lost in this human principle.
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Did you seriously just say this?
Read the post linked in my signature please.
One should never feel they become 'dependent' on whether or not a developer who is not being paid for his time and does this work for fun 'finishes' development on a ROM based on your personal standard. If you feel that way you should probably not be modding your devices in the first place. XDA does not exist so you can imply its users have an ethical responsibility to give you what you need to make your device cooler than someone else's... It exists to inspire you to learn how to do this stuff and give back. It is a hobby, not a responsibility, and you acknowledge that fact when you flash the work.
Honestly, if you want to see something done and don't feel like waiting for the developer to address your particular concern, you have two options:
1) be prepared to donate funds in the hundreds of dollars per hour to pay the dev's bills and maybe the dev will focus on your needs
2) do it yourself...no one's stopping you
Sent from my Infamous Tab.
+1
Really!? Really!?... And you wonder why we (developers) leave...
Pershoot has done more for this device the ANYONE ! instead of complaining, how about you say thank you and maybe send him a donation.
How to get souce code?
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nothing was abandoned. no stable release exists for this tab suite (until all bugs are squashed) as of yet. i purposefully switched to cm-10.1 for nightly on this tab suite (after various feedback/observations from people).
either move, or wait till the remaining bugs are squashed (first in cm-10.1, which i will then also try my best to apply to cm10) for a possible stable release.
if you want faster progress, start working on it. any help which re-mediates bugs which are device specific are welcomed. this is not closed source. all of this is out in the open. if you want it, make it happen.
your tab was abandoned at official ICS. anything greater is a plus and a gift as far as i'm concerned and is willed by my passion to keep working on it (when everyone else has bailed).
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I want to get the 10.1 source code to compile by myself. Can you tell me how to get total source code to compile and produce zip file to flash my tab?
Thanks.
wooxz said:
I want to get the 10.1 source code to compile by myself. Can you tell me how to get total source code to compile and produce zip file to flash my tab?
Thanks.
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http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/index.php?title=P4wifi_Info
This wasn't a complaint or rant. It is a simple question and answer of completing what the developer started.
I can ask without the need for stroking theatrics..
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Serpentene said:
This wasn't a complaint or rant. It is a simple question and answer of completing what the developer started.
I can ask without the need for stroking theatrics..
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you went from asking to a diatribe about philosophies and how I need to live up to one's expectations. put yourself in my shoes, then re-read what you wrote and the tact that was followed.
while i'm a very patient and passionate person, i only have one brain, two hands and only so much free time.
as stated prior, roll up your sleeves and start working on it. that is how you can make a difference and understand what a person like me goes through supporting X amount of users across X amount of devices.
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Wondering if someone want's to throw up a complete listing of kernels, roms, etc. like all the other Galaxy S variant forums have.
wait.
damn.
nvm.
I really, really miss my Nexus, but at least I have service now.
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Wondering if someone want's to throw up a complete listing of kernels, roms, etc. like all the other Galaxy S variant forums have.
wait.
damn.
nvm.
I really, really miss my Nexus, but at least I have service now.
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im not the flaming type....but this is really unnecessary.
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im not the flaming type....but this is really unnecessary.
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Isn't that like saying "I'm not the racist type, but...."
Of course it's unnecessary. But there's nothing else to do at the moment on here. It's a little frustrating to see the work in the other variant forums, and to hear crickets and hopes in here.
I KNOW incredible people are hard at work right this minute to fix it, but....
It's looking like we will be last to see Voodoo, last to see Froyo, and last to see CM.
I'm not the whining type, but.....
I'm growing restless. lol.
If you're (the general you, not calling anyone out) interested in development, I suggest joining the IRC channel #samsung-fascinate on freenode. This is where you'll get the most up to date information. (For example, we were testing CWM recovery with Koush long before the first post showed up here).
If you'd like a small project to get you in the swing of things, and you're slightly familiar with linux and can get a VM up and running, you could always download the source from Samsung and learn how to compile your own kernel. I've seen a few people in the channel go from knowing pretty much nothing to getting their kernels compiled. Even if you can't get a linux VM up and running, maybe someone in the channel could help you with that.
Obviously thanks to Samsung, the kernel won't boot, but going through the process will help broaden your knowledge and give you some insight into Android and Linux in general. There's plenty to learn, and there's a wide range of people there with varying levels of expertise.
There are a number of us who have been at this since day 1, and since we "know" each other a little better, we often communicate directly between ourselves. If you pop in the IRC channel and don't see anything, don't take that to mean that no work is being done.
There are some major obstacles to be overcome here, and Samsung didn't do us any favors. We're working a number of things right now, getting the kernel source fixed, AOSP, voodoo, etc.. It will take time, but we're getting there.
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Isn't that like saying "I'm not the racist type, but...."
Of course it's unnecessary. But there's nothing else to do at the moment on here. It's a little frustrating to see the work in the other variant forums, and to hear crickets and hopes in here.
I KNOW incredible people are hard at work right this minute to fix it, but....
It's looking like we will be last to see Voodoo, last to see Froyo, and last to see CM.
I'm not the whining type, but.....
I'm growing restless. lol.
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if you notice i did not flame you... I could have, but i respect you as a xda member... I just said this was unnecessary, because it is. Like namebrandon said, join the irc channel, but starting a topic like that, then just saying some nonsense, really doesnt need to be done... Your a senior member, we need to be a good influence for the new people. Like i said, i've seen you help out and i respect that; but lets try to keep the Android Development to Android Development. If it's something like this atleast file it in general.
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If you're (the general you, not calling anyone out) interested in development, I suggest joining the IRC channel #samsung-fascinate on freenode. This is where you'll get the most up to date information. (For example, we were testing CWM recovery with Koush long before the first post showed up here).
If you'd like a small project to get you in the swing of things, and you're slightly familiar with linux and can get a VM up and running, you could always download the source from Samsung and learn how to compile your own kernel. I've seen a few people in the channel go from knowing pretty much nothing to getting their kernels compiled. Even if you can't get a linux VM up and running, maybe someone in the channel could help you with that.
Obviously thanks to Samsung, the kernel won't boot, but going through the process will help broaden your knowledge and give you some insight into Android and Linux in general. There's plenty to learn, and there's a wide range of people there with varying levels of expertise.
There are a number of us who have been at this since day 1, and since we "know" each other a little better, we often communicate directly between ourselves. If you pop in the IRC channel and don't see anything, don't take that to mean that no work is being done.
There are some major obstacles to be overcome here, and Samsung didn't do us any favors. We're working a number of things right now, getting the kernel source fixed, AOSP, voodoo, etc.. It will take time, but we're getting there.
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I'm one of those people... First kernel i've ever compiled.
and/or you could harass samsung for the kernel signing keys, no coding ability required.
Jesus people. I'll post a ROM if it'll stop all these nonsense threads.
Voodoo kernel is the works also. Coding helps development, not complaining and being sarcastic.
jt1134 said:
Jesus people. I'll post a ROM if it'll stop all these nonsense threads.
Voodoo kernel is the works also. Coding helps development, not complaining and being sarcastic.
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really?
you have the signing key for the kernel?
signing key? don't need no stinking signing key. bootloader'll boot any (working) kernel I've tried
HUMAN!!!! YEAH!!! U R EVERYWHERE I LOVE IT!!!
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All fair enough. I know the work is being done, and my lack of dev skills makes it unfair for me to complain. My due apologies for the thread, I think I'm just going through flash withdrawals.
I'll make up for it in feedback, assisting, and donation when we get rolling.
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signing key? don't need no stinking signing key. bootloader'll boot any (working) kernel I've tried
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my bad.
I was misinformed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796171
ksizzle9 said:
HUMAN!!!! YEAH!!! U R EVERYWHERE I LOVE IT!!!
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it's wasup_with_u_man....DAMNIT!!!
Yes jt1134, but as your post says, no customer kernel.
Sent from your mom's house via my fascinate.
Not to jack this thread but,....
I LIKE COOKIES!!!
(Will probably make my way onto IRC at some point)
While I suck at Java I debug like kirwoodd's mother in a flea bath.
Daswolven said:
All fair enough. I know the work is being done, and my lack of dev skills makes it unfair for me to complain. My due apologies for the thread, I think I'm just going through flash withdrawals.
I'll make up for it in feedback, assisting, and donation when we get rolling.
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I know what you mean about flashing withdrawls...my Droid 1 i would seriously flash on a weekly base...
Terror_1 said:
Not to jack this thread but,....
I LIKE COOKIES!!!
(Will probably make my way onto IRC at some point)
While I suck at Java I debug like kirwoodd's mother in a flea bath.
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See, now THATS funny.
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I know what you mean about flashing withdrawls...my Droid 1 i would seriously flash on a weekly base...
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Lol, I had it so bad on my N1 I would test every fourth nightly CM release with four different kernels for performance and battery. I think I had about 200 advanced quadrant screenshots to delete.
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or does anyone else feel like we dont have enough aosp love? I mean we have miui, cm7, had decks(went ghostbusters on us) and empiire(heard he got grounded for molesting his hard drive.) I understand theirs still kinks to be worked out but everything is Sense. Just wanted to see who else felt this way. PLEASE DONT COME IN AND START A PARAGRAPH WAR, I read enough in high school.
Temari x Shikamaru
Evervolv exists.
il Duce said:
Evervolv exists.
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Link please. Ive been hunting it.
Temari x Shikamaru
Talked to shift on twitter yesterday, he said CM7 is being worked on. I honestly think what it is that people are happy with their phones just the way they are, so it brings less crowd. While it is smaller than the original Evo, there is still a pretty big following. Plus, this is just a US phone, so when comparing the Sensation with us is like apple and oranges. We just got mike and androidrevolution! Which is great.
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Talked to shift on twitter yesterday, he said CM7 is being worked on. I honestly think what it is that people are happy with their phones just the way they are, so it brings less crowd. While it is smaller than the original Evo, there is still a pretty big following. Plus, this is just a US phone, so when comparing the Sensation with us is like apple and oranges. We just got mike and androidrevolution! Which is great.
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Its not just US. Theres gsm models for overseas.
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The problem is, most AOSP ROM's(99.99%) are based off CM kernel source, so with no update to CM, there's no update to other AOSP ROM's. Many devs might want to wait until a few more bugs are worked out of CM before they start kanging. Once we get an RC1 or a stable CM release, you may see more AOSP love.
Can the gsm users get some aosp love? Any roms?
Sent from my Evo 3D GSM...bring on the AOSP!!!
housry23 said:
The problem is, most AOSP ROM's(99.99%) are based off CM kernel source, so with no update to CM, there's no update to other AOSP ROM's. Many devs might want to wait until a few more bugs are worked out of CM before they start kanging. Once we get an RC1 or a stable CM release, you may see more AOSP love.
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This man is right. Most AOSP is done by Cyanogenmod devs and kanged from there. I can guarantee you when they come out with a CM7 RC, there will magically be other AOSP roms.
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The problem is, most AOSP ROM's(99.99%) are based off CM kernel source, so with no update to CM, there's no update to other AOSP ROM's. Many devs might want to wait until a few more bugs are worked out of CM before they start kanging. Once we get an RC1 or a stable CM release, you may see more AOSP love.
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Your right. I forgot about that.
Temari x Shikamaru
housry23 said:
The problem is, most AOSP ROM's(99.99%) are based off CM kernel source, so with no update to CM, there's no update to other AOSP ROM's. Many devs might want to wait until a few more bugs are worked out of CM before they start kanging. Once we get an RC1 or a stable CM release, you may see more AOSP love.
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I have complained about this over and over, and will continue to complain in multiple threads until more people see the point I make and support that. Using someone else's kernel and/or ROM as a base for their "new" ROM isn't all bad all the time. It is analogous to game development on a PC using another developer's graphics/game engine (only with permission and proper credit of course!!). It saves time, and in some cases help that particular engine to advance, but it slows down new technological advancement in the industry as a whole.
Developers need to start honing their skills, start attempting to bring a ROM to the public that they built from the ground up, that includes a kernel build from the ground up too. Doing this eliminates such a large collection of ROMs that are all essentially the same, and because of the open source nature of Android it brings new technological advances to the public faster. It also raises the bar, the standard. The public will begin to expect more out of Android, and this in turn creates more motivation for a newer, better Android.
I think some developers have lost sight of the purpose and nature of open source information and products. Instead of hijacking someone's source code, and using it as a base for a new ROM with a new name, and small amount of new features, development should be done that conforms to the original intent and purpose of open source. Work together with a developer that has created a ROM [from the ground up] that is most similar to the product you want to create. Improve the ROM as a team, make bug fixes and enhancement to the existing ROM. That is what open source was meant to do. This will prevent a forum list of 32 half assed roms, and replace it with 10 really good yet unique roms.
If you can't find an existing ROM, a Dev team that has different ideas of what make a ROM good, or there is no ROM that exists that is similar enough to your vision of the product then, and only then should you develop something new.
I realize my views aren't going to match up with everyone else, but I am sure a happy medium could be found that produces a situation better than what we have now. Thanks for letting me rant, and for reading my thoughts!
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I have complained about this over and over, and will continue to complain in multiple threads until more people see the point I make and support that. Using someone else's kernel and/or ROM as a base for their "new" ROM isn't all bad all the time. It is analogous to game development on a PC using another developer's graphics/game engine (only with permission and proper credit of course!!). It saves time, and in some cases help that particular engine to advance, but it slows down new technological advancement in the industry as a whole.
Developers need to start honing their skills, start attempting to bring a ROM to the public that they built from the ground up, that includes a kernel build from the ground up too. Doing this eliminates such a large collection of ROMs that are all essentially the same, and because of the open source nature of Android it brings new technological advances to the public faster. It also raises the bar, the standard. The public will begin to expect more out of Android, and this in turn creates more motivation for a newer, better Android.
I think some developers have lost sight of the purpose and nature of open source information and products. Instead of hijacking someone's source code, and using it as a base for a new ROM with a new name, and small amount of new features, development should be done that conforms to the original intent and purpose of open source. Work together with a developer that has created a ROM [from the ground up] that is most similar to the product you want to create. Improve the ROM as a team, make bug fixes and enhancement to the existing ROM. That is what open source was meant to do. This will prevent a forum list of 32 half assed roms, and replace it with 10 really good yet unique roms.
If you can't find an existing ROM, a Dev team that has different ideas of what make a ROM good, or there is no ROM that exists that is similar enough to your vision of the product then, and only then should you develop something new.
I realize my views aren't going to match up with everyone else, but I am sure a happy medium could be found that produces a situation better than what we have now. Thanks for letting me rant, and for reading my thoughts!
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Damn. Such a long read. It was good though.
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knowledge561 said:
Damn. Such a long read. It was good though.
Temari x Shikamaru
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I'm sorry, I originally had hoped for a much shorter post. I always try to get the thoughts in my head out "on paper" in the shortest, most efficient and least complex manner. This is my vision of a more free, "open source" world though. I think the freedom of information could be applied to many facets of society that would create a better future for all of us, and still preserve the competition that drives a more peaceful, better, cheaper, faster world. Sorry again!
Sad Panda said:
I have complained about this over and over, and will continue to complain in multiple threads until more people see the point I make and support that. Using someone else's kernel and/or ROM as a base for their "new" ROM isn't all bad all the time. It is analogous to game development on a PC using another developer's graphics/game engine (only with permission and proper credit of course!!). It saves time, and in some cases help that particular engine to advance, but it slows down new technological advancement in the industry as a whole.
Developers need to start honing their skills, start attempting to bring a ROM to the public that they built from the ground up, that includes a kernel build from the ground up too. Doing this eliminates such a large collection of ROMs that are all essentially the same, and because of the open source nature of Android it brings new technological advances to the public faster. It also raises the bar, the standard. The public will begin to expect more out of Android, and this in turn creates more motivation for a newer, better Android.
I think some developers have lost sight of the purpose and nature of open source information and products. Instead of hijacking someone's source code, and using it as a base for a new ROM with a new name, and small amount of new features, development should be done that conforms to the original intent and purpose of open source. Work together with a developer that has created a ROM [from the ground up] that is most similar to the product you want to create. Improve the ROM as a team, make bug fixes and enhancement to the existing ROM. That is what open source was meant to do. This will prevent a forum list of 32 half assed roms, and replace it with 10 really good yet unique roms.
If you can't find an existing ROM, a Dev team that has different ideas of what make a ROM good, or there is no ROM that exists that is similar enough to your vision of the product then, and only then should you develop something new.
I realize my views aren't going to match up with everyone else, but I am sure a happy medium could be found that produces a situation better than what we have now. Thanks for letting me rant, and for reading my thoughts!
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The problem is that people don't always give credit where credit is due, which is one of the reasons some people don't like sharing stuff. I mean, let's say I made this awesome mod and let everybody use it. Then some kitchen dev comes along, kangs the **** out of it, doesn't mention me in his rom, and slaps a gigantic DONATE button at the bottom of his signature. It's frustrating.
Now I'm all about open source. I won't use a rom that doesn't post the source. That's the exact reason I won't use MIUI.
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The problem is that people don't always give credit where credit is due, which is one of the reasons some people don't like sharing stuff. I mean, let's say I made this awesome mod and let everybody use it. Then some kitchen dev comes along, kangs the **** out of it, doesn't mention me in his rom, and slaps a gigantic DONATE button at the bottom of his signature. It's frustrating.
Now I'm all about open source. I won't use a rom that doesn't post the source. That's the exact reason I won't use MIUI.
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I fully understand your frustration. I am a software engineer too so I know what you are going through. I have not yet begun developing for Android, but will. There is a little bit of a problem here that could easily be solved, and the community has a responsibility to protect the intellectual property rights that you and every other developer like you is entitled to. In fact it is a right that is protected by the integrity of the constitution of the united states, and many other countries and law enforcement around the world. This is a failure that not just developers, mods, and admins have, but a responsibility and failure that every user at xda shares no matter who they are.
First off; not to offend any MIUI developers that may be watching, but if you are developing for Android you need to be using a license that is open, and your source needs to be open too. This is especially true if you are using xda as a distribution medium, but sadly while xda has said they encourage, and want every development to be open source they are not forcing the matter. This is a failure I think. It also makes MIUI look suspicious too, as there isn't a way to verify if their source is uniquely theirs'. I personally believe xda should not allow software that is not open source to be distributed. If google didn't keep the open source principle when they acquired Android roms like MIUI would NOT exist! It is highly unethical to take the base ROM from google because it is open source, and then close the source. That is wrong wrong wrong! It is also illegal! You can not redistribute the Android OS even if you have made changes and then close the source and not maintain the software license google has on place.
Second; I believe as a user of xda it is your duty to maintain the integrity of the principles of xda, and Android. Don't support closed source works, voice your disgust so that xda sees the will of its users, that the over whelming majority wants things to remain open source. Tattle your ass off if someone has broke the copyright law and used someone's work without permission and credit.
It is important to keep both xda and Android running on the same principles it started with. Don't let this keep happening guys! This is very serious, a lot of developers are breaking the law doing what they are doing!
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I have complained about this over and over, and will continue to complain in multiple threads until more people see the point I make and support that. Using someone else's kernel and/or ROM as a base for their "new" ROM isn't all bad all the time. It is analogous to game development on a PC using another developer's graphics/game engine (only with permission and proper credit of course!!). It saves time, and in some cases help that particular engine to advance, but it slows down new technological advancement in the industry as a whole.
Developers need to start honing their skills, start attempting to bring a ROM to the public that they built from the ground up, that includes a kernel build from the ground up too. Doing this eliminates such a large collection of ROMs that are all essentially the same, and because of the open source nature of Android it brings new technological advances to the public faster. It also raises the bar, the standard. The public will begin to expect more out of Android, and this in turn creates more motivation for a newer, better Android.
I think some developers have lost sight of the purpose and nature of open source information and products. Instead of hijacking someone's source code, and using it as a base for a new ROM with a new name, and small amount of new features, development should be done that conforms to the original intent and purpose of open source. Work together with a developer that has created a ROM [from the ground up] that is most similar to the product you want to create. Improve the ROM as a team, make bug fixes and enhancement to the existing ROM. That is what open source was meant to do. This will prevent a forum list of 32 half assed roms, and replace it with 10 really good yet unique roms.
If you can't find an existing ROM, a Dev team that has different ideas of what make a ROM good, or there is no ROM that exists that is similar enough to your vision of the product then, and only then should you develop something new.
I realize my views aren't going to match up with everyone else, but I am sure a happy medium could be found that produces a situation better than what we have now. Thanks for letting me rant, and for reading my thoughts!
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Or learn to code yourself and create roms from the ground up. Most devs do what they do for themselves first, and allow us to ride on their coattails. Not a bad ride if your like me and have no coding skills. Otherwise, I doubt your plea is going to convince a dev to do anything more or less then they do now, unless it interest them personally.
I do agree with you though. I'm coming from Android on the Touch Pro 2 where a small group of devs are building EVERYTHING from scratch. From the modems to the light sensor. It's a huge job done out of love for the hardware, for fun, and a passion for coding.
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Link please. Ive been hunting it.
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he links only via twitter posts and in his IRC, send him a tweet. iirc still in beta, but he does some nice ROMs
Serren said:
Or learn to code yourself and create roms from the ground up. Most devs do what they do for themselves first, and allow us to ride on their coattails. Not a bad ride if your like me and have no coding skills. Otherwise, I doubt your plea is going to convince a dev to do anything more or less then they do now, unless it interest them personally.
I do agree with you though. I'm coming from Android on the Touch Pro 2 where a small group of devs are building EVERYTHING from scratch. From the modems to the light sensor. It's a huge job done out of love for the hardware, for fun, and a passion for coding.
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Thank you for your comment and support. I don't disagree with you. If you steal a loaf of bread to feed yourself, is it any less of a crime than to steal a loaf of bread to feed you and your family and friends? Or is it the same or worse?
I think either way it isn't ethical. People need to think less about themselves I think. I must reiterate and clarify so I am not misunderstood. I don't think it is inherently bad to be using a ROM as your base, but it is wrong to then close the source of a previously open piece of work and/or not maintain the original license, and give credit in every spot it should be given in. That would include its distribution, the license, the source code itself, and any where else that you put your own version, app info, and copyright notice. Am I wrong?
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I fully understand your frustration. I am a software engineer too so I know what you are going through. I have not yet begun developing for Android, but will. There is a little bit of a problem here that could easily be solved, and the community has a responsibility to protect the intellectual property rights that you and every other developer like you is entitled to. In fact it is a right that is protected by the integrity of the constitution of the united states, and many other countries and law enforcement around the world. This is a failure that not just developers, mods, and admins have, but a responsibility and failure that every user at xda shares no matter who they are.
First off; not to offend any MIUI developers that may be watching, but if you are developing for Android you need to be using a license that is open, and your source needs to be open too. This is especially true if you are using xda as a distribution medium, but sadly while xda has said they encourage, and want every development to be open source they are not forcing the matter. This is a failure I think. It also makes MIUI look suspicious too, as there isn't a way to verify if their source is uniquely theirs'. I personally believe xda should not allow software that is not open source to be distributed. If google didn't keep the open source principle when they acquired Android roms like MIUI would NOT exist! It is highly unethical to take the base ROM from google because it is open source, and then close the source. That is wrong wrong wrong! It is also illegal! You can not redistribute the Android OS even if you have made changes and then close the source and not maintain the software license google has on place.
Second; I believe as a user of xda it is your duty to maintain the integrity of the principles of xda, and Android. Don't support closed source works, voice your disgust so that xda sees the will of its users, that the over whelming majority wants things to remain open source. Tattle your ass off if someone has broke the copyright law and used someone's work without permission and credit.
It is important to keep both xda and Android running on the same principles it started with. Don't let this keep happening guys! This is very serious, a lot of developers are breaking the law doing what they are doing!
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Let me preface this by saying that I agree with you..
However android is meant to be open source, the license that they use (Apache) does not require it.. The reason they chose the Apache license was to give people the freedom to choose (their words). So technically people like miui don't have to post source for anything other than kernel (which is GPL).
This link has some good info on it.
http://source.android.com/source/licenses.html
But even CM doesn't have to provide source, which in recent history they haven't while starting builds.. We can't demand source, when the licensing doesn't demand, but that doesn't mean we still can't prove direct kang. The reason I have android over anything else is the freedom it gives and the open nature of it.
Edit: and you should always credit someone if you are using their work, and also have their permission. I was referring to general source from android itself, not from each other.
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The problem is, nobody wants to start a ROM from the ground up, and the people that do are already involved into team projects (CM/MIUI). It takes a long time to create a ROM from the ground up that utilizes all of a phone's hardware properly. Look how long it took CM to get 4G onto the EVO 4G, and that was a team of highly skilled individuals practically reverse engineering code to do it.
Now imagine all of the copy and paste kitchen users here trying to accomplish that. It just won't happen lol.
That's why we have pretty much the same thing in different colors. It kind of sucks, but hey, HTC did the majority of the work, and if something already works good enough, the average person will be fine with and use that.
Yeah, it does slow down the evolution and innovation of Android as a whole, but you have to put some of the blame on OEMs for pushing out 45 different phones a year. Nobody is going to be encouraged to create something from the ground up for a phone that will be replaced and obsolete by the time they're finished.
The G1 is the prime example of a great phone that got tons of developer support, tons of new things, and tons of unique ROMs. But that was the beginning, and I doubt that's ever going to happen again.
HTC all but pushed this EVO 3D out, and forgot about it. They've released a good 19 phones since then at the rate they're going, most of us will have moved on to the next one in a few months. Sad but true.
That is why I have stuck with and will probably continue to use a Stock ROM, modified to my liking and stripped. There isn't much else you can hope for. 3D has failed to really take off like HTC and the rest of us wanted. There is no motivation for any of the teams out there to focus on reverse engineering their ROMs to use 3D. MIUI to this day hasn't bothered with WiMAX and with good reason. Sprint all about blatantly announced its slow death in favor of LTE. It would have been a waste of time for the MIUI team to implement it. Kudos to Team Win and CM for gracing us with it on the EVO 4G. But, hindsight has probably made people mad that all of their time and energy went into something that's getting canned.
Alot of good points freeza. These are paragraphs I like to read.
Temari x Shikamaru
http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/10/26/ubuntu-core-on-the-nexus-7/
Looks like we might have a good chance at a good stable build of ubuntu.Since the nexus 7 shares almost all the main components with our prime.
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http://www.jonobacon.org/2012/10/26/ubuntu-core-on-the-nexus-7/
Looks like we might have a good chance at a good stable build of ubuntu.Since the nexus 7 shares almost all the main components with our prime.
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Fingers crossed !!
Lilstevie has been working on a version but its very very secretive and i'm not sure he has much time to do it now.
sounds good. can't wait to have it :fingers-crossed:
that would be great to have Ubuntu running naively on the prime!!
I can't wait. Running with chroot and vnc is not the same and it gets sluggish
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Fingers crossed !!
Lilstevie has been working on a version but its very very secretive and i'm not sure he has much time to do it now.
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you are confusing secretive with lacking in time. Some things don't get shared, because otherwise everyone bugs me about it, and the little time I do have for things ends up being eaten up by those people. Other things don't get shared because they are simply tests that may or may not even pan out.
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you are confusing secretive with lacking in time. Some things don't get shared, because otherwise everyone bugs me about it, and the little time I do have for things ends up being eaten up by those people. Other things don't get shared because they are simply tests that may or may not even pan out.
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Naa i appreciate your busy matey, i know your at uni and doing other things its just whenever anyone asks about the Ubuntu project its usually met with silence.
I honestly think you should start your own thread about your project and update whenever you have the time etc ... i know there are some members that just want want want, but theres plenty that would support your work and be greatful that your just trying your best ... hey no one else can do it !
My comment wasnt ment to be a flame, i'm patiently waiting myself for anything you can come up with, its just sometimes i'd love to know how far your getting etc
tbh i've been desperate to get ubuntu on this thing since i bought it... now i've bought a new laptop, i barely use it anymore.
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Naa i appreciate your busy matey, i know your at uni and doing other things its just whenever anyone asks about the Ubuntu project its usually met with silence.
I honestly think you should start your own thread about your project and update whenever you have the time etc ... i know there are some members that just want want want, but theres plenty that would support your work and be greatful that your just trying your best ... hey no one else can do it !
My comment wasnt ment to be a flame, i'm patiently waiting myself for anything you can come up with, its just sometimes i'd love to know how far your getting etc
tbh i've been desperate to get ubuntu on this thing since i bought it... now i've bought a new laptop, i barely use it anymore.
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I didn't interpret what you said as a flame, I was just "going on record" so to speak The development cycle is rather unique due to the device specificities so I have been avoiding creating a new thread so I can keep focused on that. I will be creating a thread soon(tm) for a preview build though (no eta).
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I didn't interpret what you said as a flame, I was just "going on record" so to speak The development cycle is rather unique due to the device specificities so I have been avoiding creating a new thread so I can keep focused on that. I will be creating a thread soon(tm) for a preview build though (no eta).
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This shouldn't be too hard I hope. Considering the prime and n7 share almost everything. The rear cam/keyboard and microsd might be issues. But the kernel may just pickup the cam/microsd.
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This shouldn't be too hard I hope. Considering the prime and n7 share almost everything. The rear cam/keyboard and microsd might be issues. But the kernel may just pickup the cam/microsd.
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no, they are not similar devices, they share a cpu/gpu combo, that is pretty much the end of it.
One question it always bug me. When canonical first started to talk about their project some people mention it would be like an app you download out of the market. But if a new kernel is needed, that's not possible, right? The pad would even need to be unlocked.
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One question it always bug me. When canonical first started to talk about their project some people mention it would be like an app you download out of the market. But if a new kernel is needed, that's not possible, right? The pad would even need to be unlocked.
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Most likely yes. Most users looking for Ubuntu are probably unlocked considering that usually flashing anything besides an update requires unlocking.
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One question it always bug me. When canonical first started to talk about their project some people mention it would be like an app you download out of the market. But if a new kernel is needed, that's not possible, right? The pad would even need to be unlocked.
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Canonical said no such thing, ubuntu-on-android is something entirely different to this, it works much like splashtop does on the atrix. They also never said that end users would be able to access it from the play store, it requires being integrated by OEMs.
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Canonical said no such thing, ubuntu-on-android is something entirely different to this, it works much like splashtop does on the atrix. They also never said that end users would be able to access it from the play store, it requires being integrated by OEMs.
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I wasn't clear, what I meant is that after canonical's anoncement I heard rumors from random people talking about that. And that always bugged me cuz I couldn't figure out how would they pull that off. But what u said makes more sense.
Firstly, this question is in no way intended to insult JamieD81 and I apologize in advance for any insult unintentionally implied.
I am running Jamie's builds of ParanoidKangDroid and am impressed with it's stability, as I was with all of the previous ROMs that he has shared with us.
Due to my love of PA's Hybrid Tablet mode (Jellybeer's take on it leaves the clock too small and disproportionate for my tastes), and the desire to have the latest version of Android I was running the ROM that is banned here (from what I took to be due to the builder passing off other's work as their own).
A not too thorough glance through System Settings leads me to think that ParanoidKangDroid is the ROM that was being plagiarized.
Am I anywhere near correct? If not no big deal, I've got a ROM that is more stable than that one, and comes from a ROM builder of great reputation. If it is the properly credited & branded version of the plagiarized ROM, then it is great to see a PROPER version on here.
Its not plagiarized, its built from pk's sources which roms are on the d2 devices, reason the roms were taken off from my understanding is between manel and a mod, not anything to do with roms in this section.
Me and manel have both been heavily warned in the past *note my attitude change on xda for the last while? There is a reason for that, I took the mods serious
Hopefully that clears it up a bit for you.
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I think the OP might be speaking of JellyBam, not Vanilla Rootbox. Wasn't the JellyBam dev trying to pass off the work as his own?
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Its not plagiarized, its built from pk's sources which roms are on the d2 devices, reason the roms were taken off from my understanding is between manel and a mod, not anything to do with roms in this section.
Me and manel have both been heavily warned in the past *note my attitude change on xda for the last while? There is a reason for that, I took the mods serious
Hopefully that clears it up a bit for you.
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Jamie, I am in no way implying the you have plagiarized anything, ever. I don't even know what the deal is with Manel. As the poster above me had correctly supposed, the plagiarizer is the Jellybam team. Which I am reluctant to give any credence to.
Your PROPER build of paranoidkangdroid is very similar to the improperly branded works of those that I mentioned in the previous paragraph which led me to believe that they misappropriated that work as their own.
Again, i regret any and all negative implications that you have taken from my first post and have the utmost respect for your works and your activity here.
My Note would be next to useless without your efforts.
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Jamie, I am in no way implying the you have plagiarized anything, ever. I don't even know what the deal is with Manel. As the poster above me had correctly supposed, the plagiarizer is the Jellybam team. Which I am reluctant to give any credence to.
Your PROPER build of paranoidkangdroid is very similar to the improperly branded works of those that I mentioned in the previous paragraph which led me to believe that they misappropriated that work as their own.
Again, i regret any and all negative implications that you have taken from my first post and have the utmost respect for your works and your activity here.
My Note would be next to useless without your efforts.
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Maybe the term should be "alleged plagiarizer". AFAIK, only one Dev accused him.
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Maybe the term should be "alleged plagiarizer". AFAIK, only one Dev accused him.
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there is being politically correct... then there is just nonsense talk to fill space.
All it takes is 1 accusation FROM THE DEV HAVING HIS WORK STOLEN.
the ACCUSER is still on xda to release his roms as he wishes
the ACCUSED was BANNED from xda....
you can call an orange a "sweet and tangy citrus fruit that is the combination of red and yellow".... but that still makes it an orange.
jellybam was direct ripoff of P.A.C.man rom
Opinions vary.
Edit: Oh, and BTW....I'm live in Florida....so I definitely know what an orange is!
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Facts do not
Certainly did not mean to start a war and this is my last thought on this.
You are correct...facts are facts....but.....does anyone know ALL the facts?
Let's say, just for arguments sake, you have a set of 10 facts. All, of which, are true. When pondering on a solution you leave facts number 2, 4, 6 and 8 out of your equation. You are subject to reach an entirely different conclusion.
Had an old boss one time that would always tell me, "Son, just remember...there are always three sides to every story...yours, mine and the truth somewhere in the middle. Our job is to find that middle."
And as an arbiter for many years dealing with union negotiations, his advice served me well.
Go in peace, my Friend.....after all, it is just an electronic device!
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pTeronaut said:
Jamie, I am in no way implying the you have plagiarized anything, ever. I don't even know what the deal is with Manel. As the poster above me had correctly supposed, the plagiarizer is the Jellybam team. Which I am reluctant to give any credence to.
Your PROPER build of paranoidkangdroid is very similar to the improperly branded works of those that I mentioned in the previous paragraph which led me to believe that they misappropriated that work as their own.
Again, i regret any and all negative implications that you have taken from my first post and have the utmost respect for your works and your activity here.
My Note would be next to useless without your efforts.
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No worries was just clearing things up
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Edit: I will not be participating in this bounty any longer because I have pre-ordered the Note 3. I don't know if there is a way to transfer control of this thread to another user, if there is, please PM me if you want to take the responsibility. In addition, @mse_uk is also withdrawing from the bounty and can no longer provide the Note II demo unit, although he is maintaining his monetary pledge. I will also hold to my pledge as well. I hope you guys get root and a decent ROM very soon.
Why are we creating this bounty?
Coming from a T-Mobile Galaxy Note, I know how sad it can be when there is very little development for our phones. The Galaxy Mega 6.3 is a very good phone, but it needs some development to make it a great phone. We love our phones, but would love them that much more if we had the latest Android version. So what we need is a stable version of CyanogenMod for the Galaxy Mega 6.3. It must be CM 10.2 (Android 4.3) After considering the responses to this thread, it has been agreed that either a stable 10.1 or 10.2 ROM would be welcome. As an added bonus, member mse_uk has graciously offered his Galaxy Note II demo unit (i.e. fully functional, but minus the radio) to be added to the bounty provided that the developer provides a source repository for his work so that future development can be continued on the project.
What qualifies as a 'stable' ROM?
By stable, I mean the following must be working properly:
Calls
Data (including 3G/4G or LTE where available)
Camera (back and front)
Audio (speakers and earpiece)
Bluetooth
Wifi
GPS
Vibration
Rotation
Auto Brightness
Notification and LED (back/menu) lights
Android Keyboard
USB connection
What are the criteria for collecting the bounty?
In order to collect the bounty, the following conditions must be met:
1. Post in this thread that you are interested in the bounty and that you are working on getting it done (this will help avoid problems later).
2. Post your final version of the ROM in this thread so that pledgers can test and verify the stability of the ROM.
3. Provide the source repository for the ROM so that further development can continue.
Once these three conditions are met, the developer will be paid through their Paypal account and the Galaxy Note II will be shipped.
What can you do to make this a reality?
If you want to add to the bounty (and lets face it, you all do, lol) then post in this thread with your pledge, which I will add to this first post and the total. Any support that this gets is good, so even if you can only pledge a little, please do it. (As of now, I am leaving out pledges who are asking specifically about the AT&T version, because i'm not sure that their phone will be able to take advantage of any ROMs because of the current state of the bootloader. If that changes, I will include them in the total).
I will update this thread to keep everyone informed of the total pledged.
Pledges
Techngro.....$25
mse_uk........$25
Warnahly.....$25
Krijs............$25
ponglenis.....$15
Frogimus.....$25
marcdunn82..$25
Pledges from those with AT&T I527 version (not included in total)
Gotroot............$25
ga88352006.....$25
Hi Tech,
I'll match your $25.
If this is for the I527 I will throw 25 np
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If this is for the I527 I will throw 25 np
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To be honest with you, I didn't consider the different versions. The international versions (i9200 and i905) have been out for a few weeks, so that is the one that most of us have been dealing with, but I know that the AT&T version (i527) was just announced and will be in stores soon (if not already).
I am pretty sure that the internals of all of the versions are the same, so it may be that one ROM will be good for all phones (except for the radios/modems). But we'll need a dev to actually confirm that.
I'll leave your pledge off until we can figure that out. Thanks for showing interest anyway.
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To be honest with you, I didn't consider the different versions. The international versions (i9200 and i905) have been out for a few weeks, so that is the one that most of us have been dealing with, but I know that the AT&T version (i527) was just announced and will be in stores soon (if not already).
I am pretty sure that the internals of all of the versions are the same, so it may be that one ROM will be good for all phones (except for the radios/modems). But we'll need a dev to actually confirm that.
I'll leave your pledge off until we can figure that out. Thanks for showing interest anyway.
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The i527 is locked tighter than ****'s hat band!
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How about this....
I'll offer a Galaxy Note 2 GT-N7100X store demonstrator, fully functional except it can't be used to make calls. But I'd want access to the source to be able to carry on building.
Would this be of interest to any experienced dev's?
Sent from some dark corner of my imagination from my Mega (or) Note.
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How about this....
I'll offer a Galaxy Note 2 GT-N7100X store demonstrator, fully functional except it can't be used to make calls. But I'd want access to the source to be able to carry on building.
Would this be of interest to any experienced dev's?
Sent from some dark corner of my imagination from my Mega (or) Note.
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@mse_uk: Thanks for making this available for the bounty, i'm sure it will peak a few dev's interest.
@everyone else: I wonder if there's a way to advertise our bounty on XDA. Dev's probably won't know about it until they come to this forum, which they probably won't do if they don't have a Mega or aren't thinking about getting one.
Maybe i'll tweet at XDA about the bounty with a link to this thread.
I think this bounty is unrealistic and the responses or lack of from developers will tell. The bounty is asking for a fully functional 10.2 rom with everything working. Right now, 10.2 is still in beta for the Note 2 and even when it gets out of beta and becomes a daily driver rom, there will still be some stuff that needs to be ironed out (Bluetooth, camera, low in call volume, etc...) if the past rom development is any indication.
Basically what I'm saying is I highly doubt any dev would take on the above requirements which is not realistic to complete and all for $75 and a phone that can't make calls.
You may want to revise the bounty for whoever can get CM to boot on the Mega 6.3 first. Then we should be able to get roms ported over. Then god willing, with the Megas going to the US, more devs get interested and develop for this phone.
At present only three people have pledged to a bounty, next week we could still have three, similarly we could have twenty which would be more appealing to somebody with the skills. I'm contributing towards a bounty because I just don't have the skills to do it myself even though i am giving it my best shot.
My latest failure after starting from scratch (again):
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error: /home/mark/cm10.2/out/target/product/meliuslte/system.img+ too large (298913472 > [283041792 - 2838528])
make: *** [/home/mark/cm10.2/out/target/product/meliuslte/system.img] Error 1
make: *** Deleting file `/home/mark/cm10.2/out/target/product/meliuslte/system.img'
Please root
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I think this bounty is unrealistic and the responses or lack of from developers will tell. The bounty is asking for a fully functional 10.2 rom with everything working. Right now, 10.2 is still in beta for the Note 2 and even when it gets out of beta and becomes a daily driver rom, there will still be some stuff that needs to be ironed out (Bluetooth, camera, low in call volume, etc...) if the past rom development is any indication.
Basically what I'm saying is I highly doubt any dev would take on the above requirements which is not realistic to complete and all for $75 and a phone that can't make calls.
You may want to revise the bounty for whoever can get CM to boot on the Mega 6.3 first. Then we should be able to get roms ported over. Then god willing, with the Megas going to the US, more devs get interested and develop for this phone.
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The Mega is still a fairly new device, and a niche device at that. But I don't see any problem with having a bounty for CM 10.2, even if all you say is true. The same time/effort that would be dedicated to any other device could be dedicated to this device as well. And the sooner we get someone working on the latest version, the less time we have to wait to get a stable version. I would rather have the effort put towards the latest version with slow progress, than someone quickly porting CM 9.
But perhaps your suggestion of having bounties for different stages does make sense. we could have a small bounty for getting 10.2 to boot, and then a larger bounty for a test version and a stable version. If people think that is a good idea, I can set it up that way.
As for the current level of the bounty, yeah it's small, but as I said, the Mega is still a fairly new device, and is just hitting US carriers now. It might take a few weeks, but as more people get their devices and seek to expand its capabilities, they will come here and hopefully pledge something towards the bounty. I think everyone who is participating knows that this won't be an overnight effort.
Edit: btw, did you come here because you have a Mega and were just browsing the forum, or did you see my tweet about this bounty?
I have a mega and note 2 so I switch back and forth. Unfortunately time is not on our side. The note 3 will be coming out next month and devs will be moving on the the latest and greatest. What we need is for devs to have a vested interest in developing for the mega even though it isn't popular. I personally love slimbean ROMs. They are well programmed *and* they support older devices as they continue to do great things for new devices.
What I'm trying to say is that for the mega to have a chance of getting custom roms , one of the devs would have to have the phone to maintain it.
So instead of waiting until a dev does all the work getting a working ROM and collecting the bounty, we should contact one of them eg. Slimbean lead dev asking if he could include the mega among supported devices and send him enough money to buy one himself.
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n1tro said:
I have a mega and note 2 so I switch back and forth. Unfortunately time is not on our side. The note 3 will be coming out next month and devs will be moving on the the latest and greatest. What we need is for devs to have a vested interest in developing for the mega even though it isn't popular. I personally love slimbean ROMs. They are well programmed *and* they support older devices as they continue to do great things for new devices.
What I'm trying to say is that for the mega to have a chance of getting custom roms , one of the devs would have to have the phone to maintain it.
So instead of waiting until a dev does all the work getting a working ROM and collecting the bounty, we should contact one of them eg. Slimbean lead dev asking if he could include the mega among supported devices and send him enough money to buy one himself.
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We have a dev that has the device and he is working hard at rooting. Keep in mind, the Note III will also be locked.....at least from ATT.
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Thanks for the update
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I just found this thread for unlocking the bootloader maybe maybe and I hope it helps you on the way
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2396819
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n1tro said:
I have a mega and note 2 so I switch back and forth. Unfortunately time is not on our side. The note 3 will be coming out next month and devs will be moving on the the latest and greatest. What we need is for devs to have a vested interest in developing for the mega even though it isn't popular. I personally love slimbean ROMs. They are well programmed *and* they support older devices as they continue to do great things for new devices.
What I'm trying to say is that for the mega to have a chance of getting custom roms , one of the devs would have to have the phone to maintain it.
So instead of waiting until a dev does all the work getting a working ROM and collecting the bounty, we should contact one of them eg. Slimbean lead dev asking if he could include the mega among supported devices and send him enough money to buy one himself.
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15 days back i sent a PM to Indie but no response from him. Missing Omega , Criskelo and Android Revolution Badly... Only these developers with NEAK or perseus Kernel could remove little Touchwiz and other Lag .
Would be nice to see some love for this phone.
Pledging $25 as well.
I would happily toss in 15$ for a cm 10.1 or cm 10.2 that boots!!
Many a mickle makes a muckle, right?