(Q) ParanoidKangDroid has piqued my curiousity. - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

Firstly, this question is in no way intended to insult JamieD81 and I apologize in advance for any insult unintentionally implied.
I am running Jamie's builds of ParanoidKangDroid and am impressed with it's stability, as I was with all of the previous ROMs that he has shared with us.
Due to my love of PA's Hybrid Tablet mode (Jellybeer's take on it leaves the clock too small and disproportionate for my tastes), and the desire to have the latest version of Android I was running the ROM that is banned here (from what I took to be due to the builder passing off other's work as their own).
A not too thorough glance through System Settings leads me to think that ParanoidKangDroid is the ROM that was being plagiarized.
Am I anywhere near correct? If not no big deal, I've got a ROM that is more stable than that one, and comes from a ROM builder of great reputation. If it is the properly credited & branded version of the plagiarized ROM, then it is great to see a PROPER version on here.

Its not plagiarized, its built from pk's sources which roms are on the d2 devices, reason the roms were taken off from my understanding is between manel and a mod, not anything to do with roms in this section.
Me and manel have both been heavily warned in the past *note my attitude change on xda for the last while? There is a reason for that, I took the mods serious
Hopefully that clears it up a bit for you.
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I think the OP might be speaking of JellyBam, not Vanilla Rootbox. Wasn't the JellyBam dev trying to pass off the work as his own?

JamieD81 said:
Its not plagiarized, its built from pk's sources which roms are on the d2 devices, reason the roms were taken off from my understanding is between manel and a mod, not anything to do with roms in this section.
Me and manel have both been heavily warned in the past *note my attitude change on xda for the last while? There is a reason for that, I took the mods serious
Hopefully that clears it up a bit for you.
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Jamie, I am in no way implying the you have plagiarized anything, ever. I don't even know what the deal is with Manel. As the poster above me had correctly supposed, the plagiarizer is the Jellybam team. Which I am reluctant to give any credence to.
Your PROPER build of paranoidkangdroid is very similar to the improperly branded works of those that I mentioned in the previous paragraph which led me to believe that they misappropriated that work as their own.
Again, i regret any and all negative implications that you have taken from my first post and have the utmost respect for your works and your activity here.
My Note would be next to useless without your efforts.

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Jamie, I am in no way implying the you have plagiarized anything, ever. I don't even know what the deal is with Manel. As the poster above me had correctly supposed, the plagiarizer is the Jellybam team. Which I am reluctant to give any credence to.
Your PROPER build of paranoidkangdroid is very similar to the improperly branded works of those that I mentioned in the previous paragraph which led me to believe that they misappropriated that work as their own.
Again, i regret any and all negative implications that you have taken from my first post and have the utmost respect for your works and your activity here.
My Note would be next to useless without your efforts.
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Maybe the term should be "alleged plagiarizer". AFAIK, only one Dev accused him.
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dparrothead1 said:
Maybe the term should be "alleged plagiarizer". AFAIK, only one Dev accused him.
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there is being politically correct... then there is just nonsense talk to fill space.
All it takes is 1 accusation FROM THE DEV HAVING HIS WORK STOLEN.
the ACCUSER is still on xda to release his roms as he wishes
the ACCUSED was BANNED from xda....
you can call an orange a "sweet and tangy citrus fruit that is the combination of red and yellow".... but that still makes it an orange.
jellybam was direct ripoff of P.A.C.man rom

Opinions vary.
Edit: Oh, and BTW....I'm live in Florida....so I definitely know what an orange is!
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Facts do not

Certainly did not mean to start a war and this is my last thought on this.
You are correct...facts are facts....but.....does anyone know ALL the facts?
Let's say, just for arguments sake, you have a set of 10 facts. All, of which, are true. When pondering on a solution you leave facts number 2, 4, 6 and 8 out of your equation. You are subject to reach an entirely different conclusion.
Had an old boss one time that would always tell me, "Son, just remember...there are always three sides to every story...yours, mine and the truth somewhere in the middle. Our job is to find that middle."
And as an arbiter for many years dealing with union negotiations, his advice served me well.
Go in peace, my Friend.....after all, it is just an electronic device!
Nexus 7 Running JellyBam v7

pTeronaut said:
Jamie, I am in no way implying the you have plagiarized anything, ever. I don't even know what the deal is with Manel. As the poster above me had correctly supposed, the plagiarizer is the Jellybam team. Which I am reluctant to give any credence to.
Your PROPER build of paranoidkangdroid is very similar to the improperly branded works of those that I mentioned in the previous paragraph which led me to believe that they misappropriated that work as their own.
Again, i regret any and all negative implications that you have taken from my first post and have the utmost respect for your works and your activity here.
My Note would be next to useless without your efforts.
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No worries was just clearing things up
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[TELUS ONLY] [ROM] FadedFroyo v0.01 for the Fascinate!

THIS LINE IS IMPORTANT! IF YOU ARE ON A VERIZON (Or any carrier besides TELUS in CANADA) THIS WILL NOT WORK FOR YOU AND WILL PROBABLY BRICK YOUR PHONE
This is in the Verizon forum because it is the best result on google.
Sorry the mad use of format tags.
IF YOU HAVE QUICK QUESTIONS, TWITTER ME!
https://twitter.com/FadedSpark
Release 2 in as many days. This time, beta 3! Thanks vibrant developers, you make life swell
CHANGES
--Fixed the home button problem! Search = HOME, Home and back are still back. I'll work on REALLY fixing it later.
--Market sync is behaving once again, Swype installs (I have the legit beta, still trying to learn how to package it in, if anyone can tell me how, PLEASE DO! because the stock SGS Swype does NOT work)
That's about it for this release.
THINGS IM WORKING ON
--Actually fixing the home button problem and not dodging it.
--Getting the old SGS camera app working. I'll do that tomorrow probably (12/08/10)
--Packaging swype in with the rom. Because it pwns.
--Theme maybe? Haven't thought that far ahead but I want one.
--DEAR GOD LAUNCHER PRO.
CREDITS! Since this is barely my work.
Developers:
cyanogen - http://twitter.com/cyanogen
codeworkx - http://twitter.com/codeworkx
dumdidum - http://twitter.com/dumdidum
coolya - http://twitter.com/coolya
finghin - http://twitter.com/finghin
eugene - http://twitter.com/eugene_373
and a lot more!
CyanogenMod is a free, community built distribution of Android 2.2 (Froyo) which greatly extends the capabilities of your phone.
Code:
#include <std_disclaimer.h>
/*
* Your warranty is now void.
*
* I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards,
* thermonuclear war, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed. Please
* do some research if you have any concerns about features included in this ROM
* before flashing it! YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if
* you point the finger at me for messing up your device, I will laugh at you.
*/
I told you so.
To install this, you need to know how to use Odin. I will not be giving lessons. I will not be responsible if you take your lessons from a bad youtube video, or a nerdy neighbour who isn't quite right. Be careful.
IF YOU ARE COMING FROM ANOTHER ROM, OBVIOUSLY WIPE FIRST! If you are updating, you should be okay. I'll change this if something changes.
1. -- Install clockwork recovery for the VIBRANT
2. -- Place the zip files in the package on either the internal or external SD, I recommend having an external around for back up purposes if your internal mounts as a CD Drive like mine does.
3. -- FLASH KERNEL FIRST! Use the files in the package through ODIN, have not tested clockwork for flashing, I'd rather not. Maybe later.
4. -- Install Current FadedFroyo version included in package.
5. -- (OPTIONAL) INSTALL GAPPS! You want these, obviously. But only the first time.
Enjoy?
@OP, I added my servers as the mirror for the download, much faster than Megaupload, cheers
FadedFroyo BETA v0.01 - Cyanogen 6.1
Reserved, Just in case.
Finally a working telus fascinate cm6 port!
I'll try this out when i finish my exams first.
Thanks!
This is good news for sure. Can this be ported to work on vzw fascinate?
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elkniwcire said:
This is good news for sure. Can this be ported to work on vzw fascinate?
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No. Don't even attempt to flash this.
Please.
Will be interesting to see how many phones go belly up from this...both Telus and the not too bright Verizon users who try it.
I understand this would turn my vzw fascinate useless, so I am staying away, but is the telus fascinate that drastically different that this rom can't be modified to work on vzw? Pardon, my lack of knowledge, but could some light be shed on this topic?
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elkniwcire said:
I understand this would turn my vzw fascinate useless, so I am staying away, but is the telus fascinate that drastically different that this rom can't be modified to work on vzw? Pardon, my lack of knowledge, but could some light be shed on this topic?
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CDMA vs HSPA
Totally different kernels
Not sure what else.
Ohhh didn't realize it used different network technology. Thanks
adrynalyne said:
Will be interesting to see how many phones go belly up from this...both Telus and the not too bright Verizon users who try it.
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I don't have an eye roll big enough for why my reasonable reply to your continued public threadcrapping was removed. And let's be clear: because you've made contributions, we're all expected to put up with your behavior, which is tacitly sanctioned by the moderators.
Interesting reply to my post from a user who no longer exists:
soba49 said:
That was an excellent post. The trouble with programmers is they forget their maturity so quickly. I don't know what it is, but I have seen enough grumbling hermits to be astounded at how good development does actually happen in teams, even in the open source arena. That and I hate sering negative stereotypes reinforced time and again.
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I'm a developer and I agree with the general sentiment.
In short: it's not necessary to carry a chip on your shoulder and justify it because you've made contributions. It's just as import to act politely and humbly, even when the original post doesn't necessarily warrant that. The world has enough entitled programmers with a voice on the Internet. I used to operate in the same manner, and I hurt more relationships than I fostered.
The IRC attitude that bleeds into these forums is turning away serious developers. We could all do without the aura of "cool" and incessant fawning; the era of the "l33t" developer is over, folks. I'm certainly not going to rush away from my other projects to delve into Fascinate development.
I'd PM this to adrynalyne personally as well, but I'm blocked. Go figure.
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I don't have an eye roll big enough for why my reasonable reply to your continued public threadcrapping was removed. And let's be clear: because you've made contributions, we're all expected to put up with your behavior, which is tacitly sanctioned by the moderators.
Interesting reply to my post from a user who no longer exists:
I'm a developer and I agree with the general sentiment.
In short: it's not necessary to carry a chip on your shoulder and justify it because you've made contributions. It's just as import to act politely and humbly, even when the original post doesn't necessarily warrant that. The world has enough entitled programmers with a voice on the Internet. I used to operate in the same manner, and I hurt more relationships than I fostered.
The IRC attitude that bleeds into these forums is turning away serious developers. We could all do without the aura of "cool" and incessant fawning; the era of the "l33t" developer is over, folks. I'm certainly not going to rush away from my other projects to delve into Fascinate development.
I'd PM this to adrynalyne personally as well, but I'm blocked. Go figure.
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And all of this whining has what to do with cm 6 for the fascinate?
Or are you just trying to ***** in reply to every one of adrynalyns posts?
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sonofskywalker3 said:
And all of this whining has what to do with cm 6 for the fascinate?
Or are you just trying to ***** in reply to every one of adrynalyns posts?
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I'd ask the same about his constant threadcrapping and negativity. Big fish, little pond.
It's OK, though, I think I get it - this is more of a club than a development community, and some individuals are above reproach. I'll act accordingly from here on out.
Carry on.
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jimmypopulous said:
I'd ask the same about his constant threadcrapping and negativity. Big fish, little pond.
It's OK, though, I think I get it - this is more of a club than a development community, and some individuals are above reproach. I'll act accordingly from here on out.
Carry on.
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Wow...you need to grow up kiddo. What I said was true...and an honest observation.
1. If you don't have a way to go back...someone will screw it up and break their phone.
2. If you post it in a forum for another phone, there will be someone who skips all reading and goes to the download link and tries it.
3. Why do you think dj05 was never posted publicly? No way to go back if needed. Now things have changed and I have provided a way to go back, but its not up to me to give the go ahead to release it on the forums.
4. When someone breaks their phone, they don't come to you to fix it, they come to irc, and usually me. I've been overwhelmed by so many private messages in here and irc, that I've been forced to turn them off here, and not answer all of them on irc.
So get off your moral high horse and stop stalking me through threads like a rabid groupy.
Thanks
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So how is this working for everyone so far?
kfernandes29 said:
So how is this working for everyone so far?
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Short story, well. I haven't found a single thing that doesn't work yet.
I agree with jimmy to an extent about the leet behavior and aire about some developers but I honestly believe adrynalyne didn't mean to come off in that manner and I don't think it's entirely fair to make adrynalyne a.whipping boy for every developer that was a **** to jimmy. Regardless, throwing stones isn't going to help anything. It's fine to vent but this is kinda the wrong forum for that
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I agree with jimmy to an extent about the leet behavior and aire about some developers but I honestly believe adrynalyne didn't mean to come off in that manner and I don't think it's entirely fair to make adrynalyne a.whipping boy for every developer that was a **** to jimmy. Regardless, throwing stones isn't going to help anything. It's fine to vent but this is kinda the wrong forum for that
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+1
Somebody who tried this rom please post something about it to get this thread back on topic.
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sonofskywalker3 said:
+1
Somebody who tried this rom please post something about it to get this thread back on topic.
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That would be me myself and I so far it seems, and please read the first post.
Not for the VERIZON fascinate.
[Farnsworth]GOOD NEWS EVERYONE![/Farnsworth]
Swype will be included by the end of the day. And working.

[Q] I have a few

Hello I'm a newb!
I'm sorry, but this is the unfortunate state I find myself in.
When I first found this site, what I was expecting to find was a ICS for my phone. I could not have guessed what I would learn here. I had no idea I had a counter in my phone to worry about when installing open sourced roms? Next after much more reading I am to learn the source code Google releases is not complete, and uses binary drivers? Now I am to learn about CIQ, and my phone is spying on me? Wow!
Before I say anything else I want to express my thanks to this community. This has been such a resource I had no idea that it would be when I started. Thank you!
Now on to my question that after learning about all of that I don't seem to have a clear answer to. What I wanted when I first considered getting an Android phone, was to build from source, and run my own rom. I still want this, even more so since I learned about CIQ.
1. Due to the counter on my phone
2. I am to understand multiple images that make the phone work (boot, firmware, system)
3. The binary drivers.
Is this at all a reasonable goal?
Are there more flash images that I haven't read about yet?
Would having a direct from Google rom even be desirable?
I own a stock SGH-I777, I have done nothing to it yet.
Lastly about this site:
Is there anything you think I should read about on the forums?
Any language I should know, as in what does hellraiser imply/mean?
Any Android experience you think might benefit a could be developer?
Counter can be reset and avoided all together.
Sorry I don't know much about AOSP building, but your better off starting with compiling CM and learn from there unless you are really experienced in coding.
Speaking of, the image used to not increment the counter does, or does not still contain CIQ? I suspect it does? I would like a phone at some point w/o CIQ, and fully open source. Ty for reminding me.
NEME5I5 said:
Speaking of, the image used to not increment the counter does, or does not still contain CIQ? I suspect it does? I would like a phone at some point w/o CIQ, and fully open source.
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AT&T Galaxy S2 SGH-I777 has never had CIQ.
LiLChris06 said:
AT&T Galaxy S2 SGH-I777 has never had CIQ.
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I'm shocked AT&T choose not to bug their customers? I assumed since I saw mention of it being on Samsung, that it was on all their phones?
NEME5I5 said:
I'm shocked AT&T choose not to bug their customers? I assumed since I saw mention of it being on Samsung, that it was on all their phones?
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No it was just some phones, I think the skyrocket had it at some point.
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Ok, so I rooted my first cell phone. It would seem heimdall latest has a bug that will brick your phone. (I'm on Mac OS Lion) I used the 1.3.1 instead, and it worked fine.
I saw many more sites, and this was quite easy. The way they showed it was very complex. Since I'm new at this should I wait to try out a ICS rom till after Samsung releases their source code, and the devs have had a chance to get it stable? How complete is the open source version of ICS? There was a note on the fsf.org page that linked me over here that some of the parts were still binary. Is it still true?
I think long term I want to get away from the official releases.
Well, you came this far, might as well flash an ICS rom now. If the leaks are any indication of status, the Samsung release will be pretty stable but the included kernel is problematic because it can cause hardbricking. Besides, you want to get away from stock, and all of the big roms released thus far are pretty darn stable; I don't know anything about binary parts or any of the coding, but plenty of people have no problem running CM or AOKP. Even the Samsung-based roms all look AOSP-like nowadays because they use Apex or Nova (not many devs like Touchwiz anymore). So take your pick, they're all good roms and most look like AOSP to some extent, with a few (mainly CM and AOKP) striving for pure AOSP.
Make sure to read and follow this guide carefully for flashing stuff, and have fun!
Ok here is where I have a problem. I have no idea about half of what you said? I know AOSP means "Android open source project" by inference of another reply. I even think CWM means "clockwork mod." (don't even know what this is yet) Saw a youtube video that mentioned it.
What is hard bricking, and what should I read to prevent it? I came here for a ICS rom, and it sounds like the two trying to be most open source are my preference.
NEME5I5 said:
Ok here is where I have a problem. I have no idea about half of what you said? I know AOSP means "Android open source project" by inference of another reply. I even think CWM means "clockwork mod." (don't even know what this is yet) Saw a youtube video that mentioned it.
What is hard bricking, and what should I read to prevent it? I came here for a ICS rom, and it sounds like the two trying to be most open source are my preference.
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Read, read, and read some more. If you don't understand the post above then there is no way you would be able to compile a rom for this phone, which is what I gathered from your op
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Yeh. Just give me the new thing! I want that shiny biscuit! Zomg! "Check MY device out. Its got AOKP on it. BAM.". "Oh cool how does that work?". "Pfft who cares. Its shiny!!!"
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NEME5I5 said:
Ok here is where I have a problem. I have no idea about half of what you said? I know AOSP means "Android open source project" by inference of another reply. I even think CWM means "clockwork mod." (don't even know what this is yet) Saw a youtube video that mentioned it.
What is hard bricking, and what should I read to prevent it? I came here for a ICS rom, and it sounds like the two trying to be most open source are my preference.
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Prother, by no mean to offense you, but seriously, if you don't know those fundamental technical terms, I strongly suggest you to hold off what you about to do and spend more time reading.
Let me go off and do a search the post for you, where you can get used to those terms.
Hang tight, prother.
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Read, read, and read some more. If you don't understand the post above then there is no way you would be able to compile a rom for this phone, which is what I gathered from your op
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So I will. To be honest I don't see the connection between the new jargon, and development I learn in school. There is definately much to learn here. I was expecting this to be like Zaurus development from back when I was active, it's very clear to me that this is a very different beast.
Here is one, I'm sure there is other thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466228&highlight=abbreviation
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Here is one, I'm sure there is other thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466228&highlight=abbreviation
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Thank you friend. I may not have my own rom at the end of summer, but I should be on my way to understanding what would be needed for one.
Well the terms I wanted are not present on that list, most of that I was familiar with. To be honest, some of it I have not seen before as well. What is hellraiser, and some of the other xda developed jargon? I do have a tab open to that part of the forums, I just hadn't made it over there yet. I started on the forums for my device, then Android OS, and lastly general. Is there any other place I should pay special attention to that would help me?
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Yeh. Just give me the new thing! I want that shiny biscuit! Zomg! "Check MY device out. Its got AOKP on it. BAM.". "Oh cool how does that work?". "Pfft who cares. Its shiny!!!"
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Ok? I'm not sure I understand, is there something you don't like about the aokp rom that doesn't work very well?
I want off of the carrier provided images based on personal conviction. Google's development practices smack of cathedral, as do all of the 3rd party companies. In a sense they are abusing the spirit of free software by using a signed kernel to impede (if not actually prevent) our right to modify hardware we own. Any normal user of the software provided by the community (bazaar) can only help the cause.
I plan to share what I personally learn with close friends who live in my area. The more people we liberate, the better for everyone else. I simply applaud the work done here.
You can safely ignore Phalanx's post, he's just mocking you and other new users for not reading carefully and being stupid. You're at least trying to read and understand stuff, so I don't see any reason you should be put down the way he's doing so.
Here are a couple other links I think you'll find useful (please click my thanks button if you agree!):
ROM vs Kernel
Odex vs Deodex
Make sure to read all of the links posted in the sticky at the top of this forum, too. But note that by no means is this everything you need to read.
Mind you, all this reading is meant mostly for end-users, so that we learn how to safely and smartly modify our phones. Actual original developing beyond using what's already provided by the devs is a whole different story, and I'm sure there's even more to read up on that.
Good luck, happy flashing, and if you plan to develop later down the line, good luck with that too!
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You can safely ignore Phalanx's post, he's just mocking you and other new users for not reading carefully and being stupid. You're at least trying to read and understand stuff, so I don't see any reason you should be put down the way he's doing so.
Here are a couple other links I think you'll find useful (please click my thanks button if you agree!):
ROM vs Kernel
Odex vs Deodex
Make sure to read all of the links posted in the sticky at the top of this forum, too. But note that by no means is this everything you need to read.
Mind you, all this reading is meant mostly for end-users, so that we learn how to safely and smartly modify our phones. Actual original developing beyond using what's already provided by the devs is a whole different story, and I'm sure there's even more to read up on that.
Good luck, happy flashing, and if you plan to develop later down the line, good luck with that too!
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Ty for all your help. I'm glad you're all so thorough, it was like peeling an onion. The more I was looking at rooting my phone, the more there was to learn. All of you have done an amazing job making this approachable to a brand new user.
Ah I don't assume anymore about what people are trying to say, not everyone is a native english speaker. So I try to be understanding.
Yup I'll be at this for a while, I'm happy to have made some introductions, and maybe some time down the road I can even hope to contribute in some small way.
From a relative noob:
Follow the directions in the " [GUIDE] How to Flash Custom Binaries Without Ever Incrementing the Flash Counter!! " thread. Then pick a rom you want to try and follow the CWM directions ... after that , find a ROM you like. If you don't want to void your warranty, wait for your carrier to provide the closest thing to what you want ... but, I'm happy with my flashed ICS ROM.
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Ty for all your help. I'm glad you're all so thorough, it was like peeling an onion. The more I was looking at rooting my phone, the more there was to learn. All of you have done an amazing job making this approachable to a brand new user.
Ah I don't assume anymore about what people are trying to say, not everyone is a native english speaker. So I try to be understanding.
Yup I'll be at this for a while, I'm happy to have made some introductions, and maybe some time down the road I can even hope to contribute in some small way.
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Just like everyone else has said. Read read read. Search for answers for your questions before you ask on forums. U will be fine as long as u can read and follow simple directions. Good luck to u. If u haven't flashed a rom yet I would recommend aokp. Awesome rom.
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Confused on newtoroot closure

I'm confused why this Rom was closed my understanding is that the tools are custom written for this Rom and don't understand how these are similar to any Rom on the rezound. Was it just that credit wasnt given? I'm sad to see this happen as newtoroot and hawknest roms were some of the best for the rezound. I hope those threads get reopened because they greatly improved this phone.
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I am too as Team Venom hasnt had an update in months and Newt has had CD ST in every release....
No disrespect to the other devs, but Newt WAS the first and ONLY one to figure out the RIL and Sense 4 for this device. If it wasn't for Newt, the others wouldn't have Sense 4. But I'm just saying what I've read here and there throughout the forums over time. I have not flashed his latest release, so I do not know what this CD Tools Suite thing is.
I just think this whole thing is ridiculous. one little tweak app without permission and they all go crazy. oh well. I never liked viper anyways. their 'dev' that promotes it in this section was always starting something. this is my opinion, remove if you want.
From the TeamVenom thread, the investigation is about whether CoreDroid tools is a kang, not Newt's ROM itself. But since the ROM uses the Coredroid tools, it is impacted.
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From the TeamVenom thread, the investigation is about whether CoreDroid tools is a kang, not Newt's ROM itself. But since the ROM uses the Coredroid tools, it is impacted.
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Whatever happened to Android being open source? or maybe I'm missing something here?
problem is you got some whinny developers who havent released anything in months, who like to stir up ****. Sucks that Admins here play along with it. I am trying to find the correlation between venoms tweaks and CD, there is some similarities, but nothing that any other tweak program has not done. Even the coding is different. Just a BS power play, and all it does is hurt this site as devs pull their stuff over it...
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problem is you got some whinny developers who havent released anything in months, who like to stir up ****. Sucks that Admins here play along with it. I am trying to find the correlation between venoms tweaks and CD, there is some similarities, but nothing that any other tweak program has not done. Even the coding is different. Just a BS power play, and all it does is hurt this site as devs pull their stuff over it...
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Agreed, open source means open source. People don't kang because of respect, but it's not a friggin law.
It's known in coding to piggy back existing code and not re invent the wheel every time.. that's the right thing to do. What's he supposed to do? Code a tweaks app that does the same things as core droid and expect the code to look different?
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No offense, and I love how the devs take their time to treat us with all this candy, but Venom has nothing on Newt's work, who has made I think for releases in the time Venom has been dormant. Also, what is this, Apple? OPEN SOURCE!! Just coz they're similar does not mean an idea was ripped off. It's like Samsung suing HTC for having capacitive buttons!!!
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]No offense, and I love how the devs take their time to treat us with all this candy, but Venom has nothing on Newt's work, who has made I think four releases in the time Venom has been dormant. Also, what is this, Apple? OPEN SOURCE!! Just coz they're similar does not mean an idea was ripped off. It's like Samsung suing HTC for having capacitive buttons!!!
Newt can still build his rom and use the apps that wants, and he's going to. It just want be posted here. And he wasn't the only one affected, the other roms running suite tools were too. However hawknest had the new revised code in his rom because he used the new app, and supposedly that was written to do away with the problematic code. I'm sure there's some similar situations other developers are facing. It's tough for all involved that's for sure.
Well I was never a flashaholic but thanks to Newt and Snuzzo I am completely happy with my Rezound. I can sit back patiently and wait for JB.
But sorry to hear of this development. Can't say I understand the implications.
While I respect the hard work all the devs put into delivering us with great options to keep our phone awesome, there is some seriously faulty logic at play here. Android is meant to be open source. If you dev for Android you should first accept that fundamental rule of the community. We get better by working together. Hissy fits and fingerpointing only hurts ALL development and innovation. Nearly all code is built on something already out there, even if just an idea on how to improve something. And the most honest truth...anyone developing a Sense ROM has in essence "kanged" HTC's work. So the moral to the story is grow up; and remember folks, sharing is caring.
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Xda exists purely because devs are able to many the work of HTC,Motorola, Samsung, Google etc. To pick and choose who gets to move forward here is a joke at best.
You want to lock down intellectual property then file for patents and protect your property..
Otherwise don't post it on a forum that exists purely because of other companies software. I don't see htc, Samsung, Motorola asking for threads to be closed.
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I have used Newts roms in the past and have found that he is a quality developer. With all due respect, I am sorely disappointed in the actions of the mods in their action today. I will follow Newt over at "the other forum".
Jackie
At least those whiny little b*stards gave me a reason to gtfo of xda for awhile. I love most of the people here and all the info but it's stuff like this that ruins it.
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Thread Closed, it was removed not because Newt had done anything, but because the team the team that made the thing he uses was taken from Team Venom.

Has Cyanogen 10 updates ceased?

Last update for CM10 is 29.12 ?
And it went straight from a nightly to "stable" build.
It is quite silly to abandon one project if yet to be completed abruptly for another.
So like 10.1 will only get three quarters completion and dumped when 4.2.2 aosp code is released?
This is quite frankly utter madness.
A very good enough reason perhaps why ios versions are better polished.
Sadly disappointing.
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nothing was abandoned. no stable release exists for this tab suite (until all bugs are squashed) as of yet. i purposefully switched to cm-10.1 for nightly on this tab suite (after various feedback/observations from people).
either move, or wait till the remaining bugs are squashed (first in cm-10.1, which i will then also try my best to apply to cm10) for a possible stable release.
if you want faster progress, start working on it. any help which re-mediates bugs which are device specific are welcomed. this is not closed source. all of this is out in the open. if you want it, make it happen.
your tab was abandoned at official ICS. anything greater is a plus and a gift as far as i'm concerned and is willed by my passion to keep working on it (when everyone else has bailed).
Serpentene said:
A very good enough reason perhaps why ios versions are better polished.
Sadly disappointing.
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Please go to ios if you expect things to be done for you. This is not constructive at all considering that you are bringing nothing to the table. As pershoot said, it is his passion is why we see anything past the gimped TW ICS that was official release by Samsung. Not only is Samsung done with our Tab, so is Google. pershoot worked his butt off to bring compatibility to the code that dropped support for us.
pershoot said:
nothing was abandoned. no stable release exists for this tab suite (until all bugs are squashed) as of yet. i purposefully switched to cm-10.1 for nightly on this tab suite (after various feedback/observations from people).
either move, or wait till the remaining bugs are squashed (first in cm-10.1, which i will then also try my best to apply to cm10) for a possible stable release.
if you want faster progress, start working on it. any help which re-mediates bugs which are device specific are welcomed. this is not closed source. all of this is out in the open. if you want it, make it happen.
your tab was abandoned at official ICS. anything greater is a plus and a gift as far as i'm concerned and is willed by my passion to keep working on it (when everyone else has bailed).
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I respect your skills and passions..but
The methodology used here is illogical at best and quite confusing at worst.
BY introducing 10.1 in the same chain of nightly sequences this too is causing a havoc as well.
Users are assuming by being led to assume..this is the continued CM10 build chain of updates.
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I respect your skills and passions..but
The methodology used here is illogical at best and quite confusing at worst.
BY introducing 10.1 in the same chain of nightly sequences this too is causing a havoc as well.
Users are assuming by being led to assume..this is the continued CM10 build chain of updates.
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think of it this way,
i enabled this tab to allow for the latest updates, one in which it would never see otherwise. this allows me to work on the latest and the not so latest, as it pertains to the device, in the public eye to allow for collaboration and feedback.
you don't want it, you do not have to flash. nothing is forced upon you.
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think of it this way,
i enabled this tab to allow for the latest updates, one in which it would never see otherwise. this allows me to work on the latest and the not so latest, as it pertains to the device, in the public eye to allow for collaboration and feedback.
you don't want it, you do not have to flash. nothing is forced upon you.
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You are absolutely right, I'm very pleased to have Your versions available to flash. We who are not so talented, should be grateful (and maybe also a little bit more humble ) Thank You! :good:
Just want to sat Thankyou to pershoot, with CM10.1 my tab is better than it has been in ages. Loads of respect for the talented people who keep our devices alive.
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The comment is not implied to be antagonistic but rather to question the logic and intentions set forth by the developer.
We all most certainly appreciate the passions of Pershoot and his work.
I personally thank him for answering.
When his fan base and other developers like him respect the work enough to adopt and invest in its contribution it then
Initiates itself into the hands of the global user community.
The community becomes dependant upon its completion. This is an ethical responsibility.
All reputation and notoriety is won or lost in this human principle.
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The comment is not implied to be antagonistic but rather to question the logic and intentions set forth by the developer.
We all most certainly appreciate the passions of Pershoot and his work.
I personally thank him for answering.
When his fan base and other developers like him respect the work enough to adopt and invest in its contribution it then
Initiates itself into the hands of the global user community.
The community becomes dependant upon its completion. This is an ethical responsibility.
All reputation and notoriety is won or lost in this human principle.
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Seriously...?
Pershoot,
Thanks a million for all the amazing work you and all the other developers are doing,
If you want to change version every week I'll just say "thank you". :good:
Serpentene said:
The comment is not implied to be antagonistic but rather to question the logic and intentions set forth by the developer.
We all most certainly appreciate the passions of Pershoot and his work.
I personally thank him for answering.
When his fan base and other developers like him respect the work enough to adopt and invest in its contribution it then
Initiates itself into the hands of the global user community.
The community becomes dependant upon its completion. This is an ethical responsibility.
All reputation and notoriety is won or lost in this human principle.
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Did you seriously just say this?
Read the post linked in my signature please.
One should never feel they become 'dependent' on whether or not a developer who is not being paid for his time and does this work for fun 'finishes' development on a ROM based on your personal standard. If you feel that way you should probably not be modding your devices in the first place. XDA does not exist so you can imply its users have an ethical responsibility to give you what you need to make your device cooler than someone else's... It exists to inspire you to learn how to do this stuff and give back. It is a hobby, not a responsibility, and you acknowledge that fact when you flash the work.
Honestly, if you want to see something done and don't feel like waiting for the developer to address your particular concern, you have two options:
1) be prepared to donate funds in the hundreds of dollars per hour to pay the dev's bills and maybe the dev will focus on your needs
2) do it yourself...no one's stopping you
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Really!? Really!?... And you wonder why we (developers) leave...
Pershoot has done more for this device the ANYONE ! instead of complaining, how about you say thank you and maybe send him a donation.
How to get souce code?
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nothing was abandoned. no stable release exists for this tab suite (until all bugs are squashed) as of yet. i purposefully switched to cm-10.1 for nightly on this tab suite (after various feedback/observations from people).
either move, or wait till the remaining bugs are squashed (first in cm-10.1, which i will then also try my best to apply to cm10) for a possible stable release.
if you want faster progress, start working on it. any help which re-mediates bugs which are device specific are welcomed. this is not closed source. all of this is out in the open. if you want it, make it happen.
your tab was abandoned at official ICS. anything greater is a plus and a gift as far as i'm concerned and is willed by my passion to keep working on it (when everyone else has bailed).
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I want to get the 10.1 source code to compile by myself. Can you tell me how to get total source code to compile and produce zip file to flash my tab?
Thanks.
wooxz said:
I want to get the 10.1 source code to compile by myself. Can you tell me how to get total source code to compile and produce zip file to flash my tab?
Thanks.
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http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/index.php?title=P4wifi_Info
This wasn't a complaint or rant. It is a simple question and answer of completing what the developer started.
I can ask without the need for stroking theatrics..
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This wasn't a complaint or rant. It is a simple question and answer of completing what the developer started.
I can ask without the need for stroking theatrics..
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you went from asking to a diatribe about philosophies and how I need to live up to one's expectations. put yourself in my shoes, then re-read what you wrote and the tact that was followed.
while i'm a very patient and passionate person, i only have one brain, two hands and only so much free time.
as stated prior, roll up your sleeves and start working on it. that is how you can make a difference and understand what a person like me goes through supporting X amount of users across X amount of devices.

[Q] new phone long wait?

i know i posted up earlier about the red border. Everything is good now. I just now have questions about this phone and its development stages. Since for some reason i cant post in dev page. I have to ask here.
So i was half tempted to not get this phone simply because i browsed the threads and saw no real roms or kernals that do anything fancy. I come from an evo 3d and could flash a rom every single day if i wanted because there were so many. I know this phone is new how new im still not sure upon. I see a real lack of any development on here. The best you can get is turning your og into a nexus 4 and than have cm 10.1 with the downside of only 8gigs of storage period. Well that was the whole reason i did not just pick up the htc one x was because there was no expandable memory and at most you had 10g of internal storage and thats it! so whats going on here? I know alot about the scene and though i have no coding experience myself nor rom building experience. I do love to test roms and i really want a not a stock feel to the phone. Where is the overclocking, where is the transperent status bar, where is anything to make this phone really stick out from stock? Hell i was running jb 4.2 on my evo 3d. Now im stuck being back on ICS? How is this possible that there is not stable jb port to this phone that is properly working. I have 14 days to return this phone. And with people releasing roms that the camera does not work, and storage is crap, and no overclocking support, is it because this is not the phone i thought it could be? Am i not doing enough research. Im currently rooted, unlocked, and running nocturnal limited, and i still feel stock and still 4.04.
Is this phone going to be heavily dev supported like the evo 3d is still today or should i return it and get a phone like the htc one that actually has dev support. All the roms i have seen for this phone is almost complete garbage interms of what this phone should be capable of. And the idea of turning into a nexus 4 is the most idiotic thing i ever heard.... let me change my phone to be another phone? Who wanted that and why did they just not go and get the nexus 4? I may be ranting but i could have got the htc one for .99 as opposed to the $100 i paid to sign a contract with att. I want to know if i am really getting jipped here. Is this not the phone plenty rave about? If your on this site there is no way you want a stock feeling phone and thats what i feel we are getting. I donated to get the freegee app to find out there is no good roms therefor no need to unlock the bootloader so i can flash roms that are not here..........
please dont come at me like a hard a$$ and talk crap, im simply expressing an opinion and asking questions. I loved my evo3d and if i have to carry both around because my 3 year old phone is 10 times better than this optimus im going to be upset. I would just like someone to explain what is in the works with this phone, and if and when there will be some real dev support and why there is almost non at the moment. It sad when devs are still all over the 3d posting new roms everyday, and this one has 5 that are garbage?
thank you for your actual intelligent responses, and cant wait for some nerd raging on me for blasting this out like this. Im simply being real.
Try reading this forum for the answers to your questions. Then maybe sell your OG to someone who appreciates it and knows what to do with it. Sounds like you'd be better off with a SG3. Good luck.
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Wow.... I'll take your OG if you don't want it. Seriously, I will.
This is why I like having iOS around. That way we can weed out the idiots from android. You should really check out the iPhone. I hear it can make phone calls. You should like it.
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exactly the responses i was expecting lol.....
Its clearly obvious i have read the forums as i am rooted, unlocked with twrp and nocturnal limited rom... so thank you for pointing out how much i have not read.
As for the sg3...... well thats is just an over priced piece of trash everyone i know hates them.... so thanks but piss off...
as for your iphone comment... only mainstream looooooosers have iphones as they are for the dumb...
no you may not have my optimus if i do anything with it , it will go back to att and ill get a htc one x+ at least people are doing things or at least talking of things they are doing.
HTC has huge dev support and this being my first LG i knew it was going to take some getting used to. I was just hoping for a little more out of this highly praised machine. It is a great phone, i will not say its not. I just was expecting from such a great phone a huge dev following of which i do not see. I see about 5 different roms, a custom cwm touch recovery, and hmmm..... turning your optimus into a nexus.. For you thinking that i am bashing on lg and should give it away.... there is people here pretending there phones are different phones... "hey look i know it says lg but is totally a nexus!" I can download a launcher that makes my phone look like a windows phone.... but hmmmm how dumb is that? At the end of this rant, i was curious as to what anyone knows about the future of the development on this phone. Clearly you do not have answers because that would take thinking, your idiotic comments and replys did nothing to offer any sort of answer nor did it show your IQ being anywhere near that of a 10 year old..
I clearly posted i await your nerd rage and therefore clearly enjoy it, however this thread was not started with the sole intent of it being a bickering fest. I wanted some serious answers, and I tried to express myself and thoughts on this phone along with questions that involved the future of this phone.
I am a flashaholic, i love to make my phones the best they can be. I love anything custom! So if you wanna cry about my thoughts on the phone cry, ill bring you a tissue, otherwise offer some real insight into what this phone is all about, and hopefully where this phone might be heading. Otherwise take your trolling, crying , butthurt comments somewhere else, as they are just absolutely humorous to me, and ill will reply accordingly.
Thanks and hope to hear some real comments...
btw: i cant wait for the grammer police comments cause it seems if no one has something good to say, they just like to correct your grammer, sort of like "your a tool" "no, your a tool" and we can definatly take this back to 1st grade if you like.
Joecascio2000 said:
This is why I like having iOS around. That way we can weed out the idiots from android. You should really check out the iPhone. I hear it can make phone calls. You should like it.
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look what i found... while i was busy not reading btw
"have the AT&T LGOG and it's rooted with unlocked boot loader and is running a custom ROM called The Base. Devs are working hard to build a way to easily port any Nexus 4 ROM. They have CM10 working but are still working out the kinks before releasing it. CM9 and a stock AOSP rom are also in the works. The Base is a stock, rooted, and debloated ROM and it is already out. Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. Since it is very similar to the Nexus 4, once all the hard work is done building the device tree, roms are gonna come flying out."
by joecascio2000
I do believe its a great phone, but heavily relying on nexus devs to do all the dirty work, granted they are practically the same. Again i wanted to know whats up with this phone.
Stop. Seriously, just stop right now.
If all of these features are important to you, and flashing a new rom everyday gives your life some meaning, then you made an idiotic move purchasing this phone.
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look what i found... while i was busy not reading btw
"have the AT&T LGOG and it's rooted with unlocked boot loader and is running a custom ROM called The Base. Devs are working hard to build a way to easily port any Nexus 4 ROM. They have CM10 working but are still working out the kinks before releasing it. CM9 and a stock AOSP rom are also in the works. The Base is a stock, rooted, and debloated ROM and it is already out. Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. Since it is very similar to the Nexus 4, once all the hard work is done building the device tree, roms are gonna come flying out."
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I do believe its a great phone, but heavily relying on nexus devs to do all the dirty work, granted they are practically the same. Again i wanted to know whats up with this phone.
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And...? Everything I said is true.
LGOG is rooted and has unlocked bootloader
Has stock roms (The Base, Slick, Noc)
Devs are still working on a way to port Nexus 4 roms (I believe it has to do with building a device tree and obtaining source for JB kernel)
CM10 (an actual ROM, not the N4 conversion) is "almost" done (About 3 weeks ago a dev said it booted and they could hear the lock screen but couldn't see the display due to driver issues.
A dev was working on CM9 but I believe they stopped because there was no point in releasing an outdated ROM.
Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. - Fact (Development is a slow process. They have made huge progress in only a few months. This phone isn't like samsung. They are working from a locked down system with no source code. They are amazing for what they do. They are some of the best devs on XDA.)
Once we have on bootable ROM, which will happen, Roms will be coming out quickly.
So I guess the real question is, "Do you actually know how to read?"
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And...? Everything I said is true.
LGOG is rooted and has unlocked bootloader
Has stock roms (The Base, Slick, Noc)
Devs are still working on a way to port Nexus 4 roms (I believe it has to do with building a device tree and obtaining source for JB kernel)
CM10 (an actual ROM, not the N4 conversion) is "almost" done (About 3 weeks ago a dev said it booted and they could hear the lock screen but couldn't see the display due to driver issues.
A dev was working on CM9 but I believe they stopped because there was no point in releasing an outdated ROM.
Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. - Fact (Development is a slow process. They have made huge progress in only a few months. This phone isn't like samsung. They are working from a locked down system with no source code. They are amazing for what they do. They are some of the best devs on XDA.)
Once we have on bootable ROM, which will happen, Roms will be coming out quickly.
So I guess the real question is, "Do you actually know how to read?"
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never said it wasnt true, just was in response to your ignorant iphone comment as well as the learn to read comment. Stop nerd raging for a minute, how hard is it to answer the questions? I already made a comment on the cm10.1 in my op.....all of the stuff you listed in your comment i already did... I asked what is next? What do you think the future dev is? Will this actually have a strong dev following? Will there be any decent , stable, overclocked, tweaked roms to come to this phone.
Thank you for finally giving me a little more of an answer than a mean spirited remark. I am no idiot, i did not post anywhere in this forum newb questions on how to root my lg, or unlock it, or flash a recovery, or install a rom..... I wanted to know what is really going on with this phone. So thank you joe for actually answering my questions.
gregk232 said:
Stop. Seriously, just stop right now.
If all of these features are important to you, and flashing a new rom everyday gives your life some meaning, then you made an idiotic move purchasing this phone.
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You sir..... Is your computer broken, are you stuck on my thread and only my thread which is preventing you from looking at anything else, instead of making a dumb rude comment? Stop trolling every thread and post that is on the site.... you talk about giving my life meaning and here you are telling me to stop it? Hmmmm who are you? I asked questions and my personal feelings on the phone thus far, and in no way bashed the phone or its following. I simply asked questions. I posted joes comment because as i read i actually found it useful. So thanks for peeking in this thread but your comments are best left in that pea sized thing rattling around in your giant head some might call a brain.. I asked questions in the Q and A forum......your comment was neither a q nor an a thus GTFO! XDA is where is got a lot of my EVO 3D questions answered and i respect this site. Its arseholes like you that make people scared to ask questions for fear of some ignorant jacka$$ trying to put them down.
I however can not and will not be intimidated, if i have done anything to violate the terms of this forum, please report me and have me banned. Your STOP IT attack was in no way useful.
SO..... STOP IT, JUST STOP IT!
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never said it wasnt true, just was in response to your ignorant iphone comment as well as the learn to read comment. Stop nerd raging for a minute, how hard is it to answer the questions? I already made a comment on the cm10.1 in my op.....all of the stuff you listed in your comment i already did... I asked what is next? What do you think the future dev is? Will this actually have a strong dev following? Will there be any decent , stable, overclocked, tweaked roms to come to this phone.
Thank you for finally giving me a little more of an answer than a mean spirited remark. I am no idiot, i did not post anywhere in this forum newb questions on how to root my lg, or unlock it, or flash a recovery, or install a rom..... I wanted to know what is really going on with this phone. So thank you joe for actually answering my questions.
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Wish I had better news. We are all eagerly and (in)patiently waiting for the first release of non-stock roms. Unfortunately, it's just a waiting game. Right now it's LG's move and they are taking their sweet little time. We do have a strong dev following. They are lurking in the shadows. We are very fortunate that we have both an international version of this phone and also the Nexus 4. That gives us two pools where ROMs can be ported from. Just like the Nexus S, i9000, and Samsung Captivate. All of which are still going strong. It took time to get things setup for those phones and like I said we are at a disadvantage because LG isn't as "helpful" as Samsung. Development will take off one way or another, we just have to wait.
IMHO though, nobody should be complaining because stock LG is amazing. And the stock ROMs are perfect.
Dude....
Your entire post sounds like one big vagina monologue.
"There is not enough dev support for this phone..... I can't believe we don't have a stable JB ROM..... I want to flash a new rom every day....."
Waaa waaa waaa :crying::crying::crying::crying:
No one is intimidating you.
Just making the point that you obviously did not act like a rational consumer by purchasing a product that does not meet your expectations, then complain about it in the QA section.
Not sure why you needed to create this thread. Return the phone and get something else if you aren't happy with it. It's not rocket science, lol.
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Oh look, it's this thread again
Guys, settle down please. Let's not turn this into the i777 forums. I'd rather not relive that.
This phone is too powerful to not be developed, but developing for ICS is pointless when JB is coming. There will be much more development. You must just be patient. But in all honesty, Samsung and HTC will probably always have more development, so if you are a flashaholic, I would go with the SIII.
"Ye best start believin' in troll threads... Yer in one."
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"Ye best start believin' in troll threads... Yer in one."
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Hahaha! F*****g brilliant!
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Hahaha! F*****g brilliant!
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Yes! In before thread closed!:banghead::banghead::banghead:
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They wouldn't close this thread, it has been nothing but honest, intelligent, mature, informative discussion.
But honestly, this has been asked a lot... We are hoping development will pick up after the source is released and JB hits our device.
But there are no guarantees, it is kind of your fault for picking up a device (great as it may be) that doesn't have 20+ ROMs out for it, you should have looked here first and shied away from the device if development was so important.
Based on what we have heard from devs, the work is being done, it is slow going with no source and nobody wants to work on ICS when JB is coming so soon.
Also, one of the biggest problems here, you called what development we have seen released "garbage," most likely (hopefully) the devs can dismiss that statement as the angry rantings of somebody with a bad filter, but it is still terrible motivation to spur development further.
Work has gone into the development we have seen, it may not have quite the shock and awe factor you are looking for, but they are solid works.
It sounded like you were very unappreciative and then demanded more, maybe not your intention, but that is how it can be construed.
I'm not trying to bash you in any way, but the community does better when there is less... negativity.
Also, no need to be so defensive, you knew you would get the responses you did, should have just let them slide.
chrisphoenix7 said:
Guys, settle down please. Let's not turn this into the i777 forums. I'd rather not relive that.
This phone is too powerful to not be developed, but developing for ICS is pointless when JB is coming. There will be much more development. You must just be patient. But in all honesty, Samsung and HTC will probably always have more development, so if you are a flashaholic, I would go with the SIII.
"Ye best start believin' in troll threads... Yer in one."
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dood i agree the i777 forums was a nightmare with all the immaturity attitude around
I get the feeling OP is the kind of guy that complains when he gets free stuff.
As for getting a new phone, good riddance. You really didn't need to make this thread. A lot of us are waiting on custom ROMs and CM10 and all that. You don't see us whining about it like a little girl (no offense ladies )

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