Hello,
I've purchased 2 Lumia 920s now and both times the camera sensor had lots of hot pixels. If you could, would you please perform a test?
Set camera to 'Night mode'
Set exposure to '2'
Set ISO to '800'
Switch off auto-focus light
Switch off flash
Then:
Lock yourself in the bathroom and turn off the light.
Take a picture in the dark (as close to pitch black as possible)
Upload the photo to your computer
Turn off the lights around you and your monitor
View it on your computer and zoom way in
Look for any bright spots/dead pixels
Describe/upload what you see
My results:
Regular resized for display.
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Zoomed in to the lower left-hand corner.
you first.
It is not uncommon for cameras to display hot pixels under those conditions. Even high end cameras can do it.
Now take a picture in conditions like everyone else and see if you see them.
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chikoo said:
you first.
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Yeah let me do some cropping and zooming. The regular picture is too large to display.
Mr Patchy Patch said:
It is not uncommon for cameras to display hot pixels under those conditions. Even high end cameras can do it.
Now take a picture in conditions like everyone else and see if you see them.
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I've realized that, but my unit seems to be worse than others. My friend doesn't have hot pixels on hers at all : (
hawc1506 said:
Yeah let me do some cropping and zooming. The regular picture is too large to display.
I've realized that, but my unit seems to be worse than others. My friend doesn't have hot pixels on hers at all : (
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What im saying is it happens to the best of the best. Take pictures normally like everyone else. You wont see them then and they wont effect your picture quality. Nothing to be concerned about. You can take 2 identical cameras and one might do it while the other doesnt. And its only usually gonna happen under longer exposures. You shouldn't be worried. And it doesn't surprise me that a few of your pixels went retarded based on the shooting conditions you described above. Take it easy partner..
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Those pixels absolutely ruin that photo of nothing!!
I experienced the event horizon looking at your pictures.
Honestly, my screen has more dust specs than the hot pixels on your screen.
I hope you're not kidding with this thread. That's definitely normal... I first thought it was a prank.
You should need a minimal amount of light. I've seen many videos on the internet where a DSLR camera was used to record videos @1080p with minimal amount of light and you can definitely see random hot pixels every while or so. As long as it's not always the same pixel it's nothing to worry about.
I know DSLRs have hot pixels. I wouldn't be worrying if it didn't show up in normal pictures, but my unit has hot pixels in normal night-time pictures and they're consistently in the same place. It was similar to this (not quite as many though).
http://www.neilcamara.com/WP_20121123_097.jpg
I've attached a photo (everything in auto settings) from my first unit. It only had 1 hot pixel. I would've kept it if it weren't for flexing/clicking polycarbonate. My second one had 7.
I took a black picture just to show the pixels.
I'm not trying to annoy anyone, but none of my friends' units have hot pixels as bad as mine, even under the same testing conditions.
Either way, that unit is now on its way back.
Thanks for your help.
hawc1506 said:
I know DSLRs have hot pixels. I wouldn't be worrying if it didn't show up in normal pictures, but my unit has hot pixels in normal night-time pictures and they're consistently in the same place. It was similar to this (not quite as many though).
http://www.neilcamara.com/WP_20121123_097.jpg
I've attached a photo (everything in auto settings) from my first unit. It only had 1 hot pixel. I would've kept it if it weren't for flexing/clicking polycarbonate. My second one had 7.
I took a black picture just to show the pixels.
I'm not trying to annoy anyone, but none of my friends' units have hot pixels as bad as mine, even under the same testing conditions.
Either way, that unit is now on its way back.
Thanks for your help.
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If your unit has hot pixels close to the one you linked then it's another story. It should not happen.
Hot pixels happen on any DSLRs regardless the price range. What those DSLRs do is when you shoot anything with over 1 second, they automatically (can be turned off) take another picture with equal time but without letting any light in. Then they subtract the frames to remove those hot pixels as those pixels are always on the same location. It is by no means defective unless you see them in pictures exposed within a second.
Xeon said:
If your unit has hot pixels close to the one you linked then it's another story. It should not happen.
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Not as many, but the ones on my pictures were slightly bigger, even in regular auto-mode pictures.
foxbat121 said:
Hot pixels happen on any DSLRs regardless the price range. What those DSLRs do is when you shoot anything with over 1 second, they automatically (can be turned off) take another picture with equal time but without letting any light in. Then they subtract the frames to remove those hot pixels as those pixels are always on the same location. It is by no means defective unless you see them in pictures exposed within a second.
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Yeah mine were showing up in auto-mode. I also set exposure to 0 and ISO 400. They still showed up.
Oh well, hope you guys don't have this problem! Thanks for the comments.
It is about how long the shutter opens, nothing to do with modes and isos.
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how the hell did u discover this "problem"??? lol
u make it a habit of taking pictures in rapist grade darkness?! lol lol
lol i appreciate your concern for the camera quality.. but seriously.. there is absolutely no reason to be taking a photo of darkness! lol lol
hawc1506 said:
I know DSLRs have hot pixels. I wouldn't be worrying if it didn't show up in normal pictures, but my unit has hot pixels in normal night-time pictures and they're consistently in the same place. It was similar to this (not quite as many though).
http://www.neilcamara.com/WP_20121123_097.jpg
I've attached a photo (everything in auto settings) from my first unit. It only had 1 hot pixel. I would've kept it if it weren't for flexing/clicking polycarbonate. My second one had 7.
I took a black picture just to show the pixels.
I'm not trying to annoy anyone, but none of my friends' units have hot pixels as bad as mine, even under the same testing conditions.
Either way, that unit is now on its way back.
Thanks for your help.
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Here is mine. Is this good or bad?
Puff1911 said:
how the hell did u discover this "problem"??? lol
u make it a habit of taking pictures in rapist grade darkness?! lol lol
lol i appreciate your concern for the camera quality.. but seriously.. there is absolutely no reason to be taking a photo of darkness! lol lol
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LOL I discovered it when I accidentally took a dark picture in a completely dark room. Then when I took normal night-time pictures, I noticed that the hot pixels were there too.
chikoo said:
Here is mine. Is this good or bad?
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Looks fine to me. You don't have any bright spots lol
I had photos like this in the dark and sent it back:
I took the photo with night mode and i think everything else was set to auto.
I hope they will fix it.
Axefield said:
I had photos like this in the dark and sent it back:
I took the photo with night mode and i think everything else was set to auto.
I hope they will fix it.
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Mine was similar except with bright red dots as well.
I wonder if the Portico update contains hot-pixel filtering. My friends on AT&T don't have this problem.
I experienced this issue on my first 920 and promptly exchanged it for a new one which does not suffer from this issue. Unfortunately the new one seems to suffer from the rapid random battery drain ...
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I'm also the proud owner of a samsung galaxy s2. However, when it comes to new devices, everything i buy, i want to know if everything is correct!
Now i came across these pics on another forum i visit. But I appreciate this forum more(was only reading untill now), as I can see alot of the people are like me here. Exploring every little thing that could be wrong with the phone and not saying it's annoying to ask a lot of questions.
Now this is the problem i came across, haven't seen it anywhere else here, tough i read somewhere else abouth a blue-ish tint on the screen.
These next pictures have the same brightness, and all the same display settings too! So no lcd automatic power management(i don't know the right english word).
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As you can see here the right picture has slightly "harder" colours. But it seems like the left had more contrast. The yellow lines stay yellow on the left one, on the right it's orange allready.
Left one clearly blue ish shine.
Now as I hold my own phone in the same positions as the picture standpoints, i can see mine is also like the blue-ish one with whole white screens.
Can anybody check this on their phone, as I now am worrying wich one is the one Samsung intended it to be?
Also a little other question, does this "automatic screenpower adapting" also changes the whites more to grey on your phones? When i turned it off it changed alot.
I've also seen those pics on Tweakers and checked my screen but I don't see any blueish hue on my screen. However it's hard to check because I don't know how the "other" screen looks like in real life.
Most people won't be able to notice the blue-ish hint on their screens without having another non blueish screen for reference. But I've had 4 Galaxy S2's pass through my ownership, and all of them have this blue-ish tint.
drm111 said:
Most people won't be able to notice the blue-ish hint on their screens without having another non blueish screen for reference. But I've had 4 Galaxy S2's pass through my ownership, and all of them have this blue-ish tint.
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Yeah i know, wouldn't have noticed it myself. But just by comparing my phone to the blue ish one, i could see mine was like the blue ish one immediatly.
The other one has more of the pink hue like more of the lcd screens is guess...
What causses the difference, is it just some little layer?
Do you think we can talk abouth one of them being broken?
very large keyboard which one is it .
One on the left looks like wrong display settings from the pictures .
But the pictures are not good enough to clarify .
jje
JJEgan said:
very large keyboard which one is it .
One on the left looks like wrong display settings from the pictures .
But the pictures are not good enough to clarify .
jje
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I can tell you that, in real life, mine looks like like the blue-ish one from those angles. However when i look straight on to the phone it's not like that, it's pretty white, like the 3rd picture but without the blue in the left corner.
It's taken with a good camera.
It's not broken. I'm convinced it's a software problem. The colour temperature is set incorrectly, it's too 'cold'.
If you load up a video in the stock video player app, then go into the settings menu, and make a mental note of the white colour of the menu, then go into colour tone, and set it to 'warm', notice the menu now has a much more neutral white and isn't as blue? Unfortunately the colour tone settings set in the video player isn't saved for else where on the phone.
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It's not broken. I'm convinced it's a software problem. The colour temperature is set incorrectly, it's too 'cold'.
If you load up a video in the stock video player app, then go into the settings menu, and make a mental note of the white colour of the menu, then go into colour tone, and set it to 'warm', notice the menu now has a much more neutral white and isn't as blue? Unfortunately the colour tone settings set in the video player isn't saved for else where on the phone.
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Thanks, but doesn't change much. It's just a sort of coating. When i just turn it to idle, and i reflect in in outdoor light, I can see some sort off the same blue ish hue on it... You can test it like this...
So very strange what it is...
Ah yeah I see.
Well my other theory is that due to the way AMOLED displays work, as we all know they die out over time, getting increasingly dull with age. But with AMOLEDs, blue pixels have a much shorter lifetime than the Red/Green pixels.
SO my theory is that either there is blue 'cast/coating' over the screen or that the blue pixels have simply much boosted 'intensity', so that over time as the blue pixels age quicker than the other pixels over time, this blue cast/coating/boosted intensity will mean that the blues will still match the other pixels as they age much slower.
Didn't Supercurio release a color fix in his Voodoo kernel for SGS ? I guess you'll need to wait for a similar fix for the SGS 2 series .
JJEgan said:
very large keyboard which one is it .
One on the left looks like wrong display settings from the pictures .
But the pictures are not good enough to clarify .
jje
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Looks like Swype
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Theres supposed to be a setting called Background Effect where you can choose between dynamic, standard and movie. Maybe thats the difference
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Theres supposed to be a setting called Background Effect where you can choose between dynamic, standard and movie. Maybe thats the difference
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I tried that personally, changing it from Standard to Movie helped the problem a fair bit, but it's still there. Dynamic didn't seem to make much difference.
Hmm. Could it be a software problem? Have you tried reflashing it? Or maybe its the problem with the Gorilla Glass.
Does anyone know if the phones in those comparison pictures are both retail? Maybe one is a proto
erazer007 said:
Hmm. Could it be a software problem? Have you tried reflashing it? Or maybe its the problem with the Gorilla Glass.
Does anyone know if the phones in those comparison pictures are both retail? Maybe one is a proto
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Phones from a couple from holland. Posted on tweakers.net.
Anybody compared their phone from those viewing points? And see if the blue ish hue is visible?
Hmm it seems the difference is there. My phone is with my friend and his phone is less brighter than mine. This maybe because he has used his phone while mine is new.
Gutted...
I hadn't heard about this but my SGS2 is definitely Blue-ish compared to a white screen on my laptop LCD :-(
Can you take them back and get replaced on this? (I have also put a small but deep scratch in mine, so hoping this would be basis for a replacement)
boch501
Well I brought mine back to the store for a refund, it's just too annoying for me.
Especially when you put it to an angle. The screen of my galaxy s 1 is far superior in this respect
I will wait for a newer batch to see if the problems are solved. I do read very little about this problem, does that mean it's just a problem with few devices or most people just don't care/notice it?
Any news about not-blueish displays?
Is there any possibility to find a near white perfect display, or all display suffers of the same bluish issue? (yesterday I've checked a pair of samples here in Italy, and both were quite blu in my opinion)
I've read that blu oled pixel lifetime is lower than other colors, so Samsung could intentionally push blu pixel in order to compensate color balance in the long term.
Also Gorilla Glass is a bit bluish, so it could contribute to increase the overall blue dominant.
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Any news about not-blueish displays?
Is there any possibility to find a near white perfect display, or all display suffers of the same bluish issue? (yesterday I've checked a pair of samples here in Italy, and both were quite blu in my opinion)
I've read that blu oled pixel lifetime is lower than other colors, so Samsung could intentionally push blu pixel in order to compensate color balance in the long term.
Also Gorilla Glass is a bit bluish, so it could contribute to increase the overall blue dominant.
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No news anymore.
But I am deffinatly sure that my blue tint is not coming from the screen. When i turn my screen off and reflect it in some light and play with it, i can clearly see that it still is blue...
Here are some pictures taken from engadget... You can see it here.
This one shows it....
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This one does not. So look carefully.
I'm just re-writing this post to compile all the examples I've found so far.
I have found a common fault (despite what some of you think, it's not right!) with the right camera on the phone.
1) it goes in and out of focus on video
2) some photos the right image is way out of focus
3) the worst one, during videos the image from the right camera moves!
4) the right camera shows photos and videos in different colour!
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Video showing the same out of focus problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk86jp4Ws60 (press the 3D button below the video and choose "side by side")
Another where the right goes out of focus in the middle, it's also displaying everything as a slightly different colour
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zikwaWnPYnc
another one with different colour on the right and the right camera moves after around 3-5 seconds!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ2G8q5MRIE
look at the colour of the back of the chairs around 8-10 seconds, they go blue on the right camera!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_akMqqpfWE
another one, waych right camera move at 53 seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=TL1f8zvl6LY#t=52s
yet another really bad and obvious right camera move at 9 seconds that lasts 5 seconds, again at 1.15 and 1.50 as well as the camera moving (wobbling) all the way through it compared to the left which stays still!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MExk2CcsLJU
have a look at this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kICxot_r9-s
you can see when something like a wall or door is straight in one side, it's at a slight angle in the other, like the right camera is twisted slightly
Keep in mind the right camera is more likely to get a smudge or finger print on it since its closest to the side the button/hand is.
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Keep in mind the right camera is more likely to get a smudge or finger print on it since its closest to the side the button/hand is.
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true, but you can clearly see on the dog one that it's out of focus and not a "smudge", both camera's should be the same focus/white balance etc for the 3D to work.
If they focus or do anything independent of the other then that's a major oversight by HTC
Yeah, I noticed the same thing about 20 minutes ago when i was trying to stream it from my phone to my 3d tv before i converted the side by side image to 3d.
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Yeah, I noticed the same thing about 20 minutes ago when i was trying to stream it from my phone to my 3d tv before i converted the side by side image to 3d.
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hmmm, doesn't look good then, unless it is related to the smudging?!
could be a common fault (though an ota update could fix it if HTC know about it)
Another where the right goes out of focus in the middle, it's also displaying everything as a slightly different colour
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zikwaWnPYnc
look at the colour of the back of the chairs around 8-10 seconds, they go blue on the right camera!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_akMqqpfWE
this isn't good!
I don't know how to check the details but here's a youtube video that I recorded with my 3vo on wednesday.
Let me know if you see the problem?. I tried to view it on my screen but it looks fine side by side?
http://youtu.be/saUqENC3LCI
Its definately not a smudging issue, I made sure i cleaned it with a microfiber cloth because i wanted it to be as clear as possible before I tried watching it on my tv.
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I don't know how to check the details but here's a youtube video that I recorded with my 3vo on wednesday.
Let me know if you see the problem?. I tried to view it on my screen but it looks fine side by side?
http://youtu.be/saUqENC3LCI
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Looks fine to me
however, I've seen some people have put up 3 or 4 photos and the problem is only there in 1 photo or video
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Its definately not a smudging issue, I made sure i cleaned it with a microfiber cloth because i wanted it to be as clear as possible before I tried watching it on my tv.
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yeah, just found some more videos where the right goes in and out of focus
Maybe some 3vo's had different ccd sensors placed in the left and right eyes? <-this would really make things complicated or if your evo was one of the unfortunate ones where the right eye was the last of batch x and the left eye was the first of batch y.
Or maybe the software still needs some kinks ironed out.
my left camera wasn't focusing and even the 2d pictures were turning out blurry. i am now on my second evo3d
you need to remember that the device is an optical aid free device, so it wont use your typical stereoscopy picture methods, i believe with the glasses free approach one camera takes the real image and other takes it out of focus to give you depth.
Ie left camera takes the picture focused with background and all
the right camera takes a close up of the main object to give it a 3d appearance
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you need to remember that the device is an optical aid free device, so it wont use your typical stereoscopy picture methods, i believe with the glasses free approach one camera takes the real image and other takes it out of focus to give you depth.
Ie left camera takes the picture focused with background and all
the right camera takes a close up of the main object to give it a 3d appearance
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no, the right camera takes an image for your right eye, the left for your left eye so you get 2 images (same focus etc) as you do in real life
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no, the right camera takes an image for your right eye, the left for your left eye so you get 2 images (same focus etc) as you do in real life
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Autostereoscopy is any method of displaying stereoscopic images (adding perception of 3D depth) without the use of special headgear or glasses on the part of the viewer. Because headgear is not required, it is also called "glasses-free 3D" or "glasses-less 3D". The technology also includes two broad approaches used in some of them to accommodate motion parallax and wider viewing angles: those that use eye-tracking, and those that display multiple views so that the display does not need to sense where the viewers' eyes are located.[1] Examples of autostereoscopic displays include parallax barrier, lenticular, volumetric, electro-holographic, and light field displays.
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Autostereoscopy is any method of displaying stereoscopic images (adding perception of 3D depth) without the use of special headgear or glasses on the part of the viewer. Because headgear is not required, it is also called "glasses-free 3D" or "glasses-less 3D". The technology also includes two broad approaches used in some of them to accommodate motion parallax and wider viewing angles: those that use eye-tracking, and those that display multiple views so that the display does not need to sense where the viewers' eyes are located.[1] Examples of autostereoscopic displays include parallax barrier, lenticular, volumetric, electro-holographic, and light field displays.
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The Evo 3D uses the right camera for the right eye and the left for the left eye. Most photos are correct [both in focus] (proving your theory wrong) where as some are incorrect and some videos are going in and out of focus (how do you explain this one?)
this is in reply to your post before you completely changed it btw because your explanation you have changed it to agrees with what I'm saying
"display multiple views" (L & R)
seen a few more now, it's about 25% of the photos I've seen. Bad blur/focus and discoloured, all from different users/phones
Looks fine on your phone/3D monitor/3DTV (your eye adjusts because your brain knows what you should see), but if you close one eye then the other you'll see it in the right eye
i think one is 2d and the one that looks blurry is 3d. if you are not looking at it on a 3d compatable device it will look smudged.
although i could be wrong
Did anyone ask HTC about this LOL I know 3D is suppose to somewhat blurry on one side its weird and hard to explain I think the issue is normal. Dunno tho I would check with HTC and ask . I am not having issues.
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i think one is 2d and the one that looks blurry is 3d. if you are not looking at it on a 3d compatable device it will look smudged.
although i could be wrong
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one is left eye, one is right eye. Not every photo by everyone is blurred, just some of them.
Has anyone noticed the picture quality on the EVO LTE comes out a little fuzzy and less sharp when you compare the actual taken shot with the preview screen? The objects in the picture seem to have a glow effect. The preview screen seems so much sharper. My settings are Exposure 0, Contrast 0, Saturation -1, Sharpness +1. ISO and White Balance are set to AUTO.
It won't look bad for most of you, but if you compare it to the preview screen before the pic is taken, it is a lot worse.
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androofoo said:
WHOA. Everyone stop. Forum threads end up being like that game "telephone". One message slowly turns into a runaway interpretation.
Let me clarify. I am aware of the phone's screen quality and that when compared from the phone screen vs. another monitor, there may be significant quality loss. During low light, the camera is sensitive because of the longer exposure, therefore you have to hold the camera still or else it will pick up the slightest movement, resulting in blurred images. What I am talking about is none of that. There is a significant quality loss once the picture is taken. Here is a SS of the camera preview screen and an actual captured photo. Camera settings were exactly the same. Distance/zoom area was exactly the same. This one does not show so much of the "blur" or "glow" I talk about in post 1, but there is a big difference in picture. Bad compression? I'll post a better example tomorrow.
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I have noticed this also. It's quite a significant difference that leaves me saying, "Why doesn't the photo look as good as the preview did?!?"... [frustrated]
I'm wondering if a screenshot would preserve the preview resolution as opposed to snapping a pic. Is a screenshot possible while in the camera app? But then you'd have all the on-screen buttons & whatnot in the image. Hmm...
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I'm wondering if a screenshot would preserve the preview resolution as opposed to snapping a pic. Is a screenshot possible while in the camera app? But then you'd have all the on-screen buttons & whatnot in the image. Hmm...
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I gave it a try.....
Here is my original photo
and the Screenshot photo
The screenshot is clearly inferior.
if you wan't my honest opinion id say they both look like s**t
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if you wan't my honest opinion id say they both look like s**t
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It's a big improvement over the camera in my old 3D. I have already given that phone to my mom or else I would have taken the same photo with that phone to show the comparison.
I'm no professional photographer and I rarely over-analyze photos so as long as I can take a picture of something with my phone and it comes out decent...I'm happy. If I was into photography I would definitely use a dedicated camera but this phone's built in camera is more than enough for me.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33502795/IMAG1402.jpgno issue for me http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1111948&stc=1&d=1339034601
So I'm just gonna ask . @ ticklemepink, are you really hot chick on this forum ?
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coffeehandle said:
So I'm just gonna ask . @ ticklemepink, are you really hot chick on this forum ?
Sent from my EVO using XDA
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hot...anyone opinion.... chick?? i prefer being called a woman... lolz
I have noticed this also in regards to the photos being nice in quality in my phone but looking washed when i view them on my Laptop/PC
Very disappointing
i was about to pull the trigger for this phone but nah this thread really helped with the decision thanks
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i was about to pull the trigger for this phone but nah this thread really helped with the decision thanks
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it's not that the pics are washed out, it's that our screen is so good it makes the picture look better, brighter and all that jazz, you could turn up saturation if you want it to look more colorful, it has been said in mini reviews, if you sent the pic to another evo lte it will look just as good, I have no problem with it, the camera is great so to the guy who said he's not gettin it, please believe it looks good and there are ways to make it look brighter...
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i was about to pull the trigger for this phone but nah this thread really helped with the decision thanks
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Your loss
example:
stock vs saturation +2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1112060&stc=1&d=1339039437
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well get a god damn slcd display on your computer if you want it to look as good as the phone...I mean seriously,are we really saying "hey this photo looks different when i look at it on a totally different lcd screen"
same as the galaxy S phones..Everything looks poppy and colorful on the OLED display untill you load that Issh up on your PC monitor or view it on your TV and it looks dull and boring..
Peace out
^ see and on my phone the second one looks wayyy to colorful but on my computer it looks vibrant... (on macbook pro)
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^ see and on my phone the second one looks wayyy to colorful but on my computer it looks vibrant... (on macbook pro)
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this is my point,and if i take all the beautiful shots i have taken with this phone and load them up on the LCD display on the deck in my truck,Its going to look like donkey crap...Also that nice shot i took and shared on facebook that im so proud of for my little nephew.Guess what,its going to look like crap because hes viewing it on a damn HTC Hero..
Just take your damn pictures and be Happy or return the phone,or in the other guys case dont pull the trigger and go get something else that will only disappoint you in one way or another.
I noticed this at first as well. But I found that if I used the on screen shutter button instead of the physical button it wasn't fuzzy. Also noticed that if I immediately went to burst shots with the physical button the first one was fuzzy while the subsequent pics were okay. Finally attributed it to the pressure required to fully depress the physical button was jarring the phone just enough to cause it to be blurry. That is if you take a single shot with the physical button without using the half press to focus first they usually come out a tad blurry.
As long as I use the half press to hold the focus before taking the shot it seems fine or I use the on screen button.
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I noticed this at first as well. But I found that if I used the on screen shutter button instead of the physical button it wasn't fuzzy. Also noticed that if I immediately went to burst shots with the physical button the first one was fuzzy while the subsequent pics were okay. Finally attributed it to the pressure required to fully depress the physical button was jarring the phone just enough to cause it to be blurry. That is if you take a single shot with the physical button without using the half press to focus first they usually come out a tad blurry.
As long as I use the half press to hold the focus before taking the shot it seems fine or I use the on screen button.
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I actually stopped using the shutter button for this very reason..Did the same thing on the Evo 3D.. Pointless shutter button unless you burst your shots.
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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33502795/IMAG1402.jpgno issue for me http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1111948&stc=1&d=1339034601
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I will say that the macros are the best of ANY phone I've seen & many dedicated cameras. Really, really good. Great shot here! :thumbup:
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dsEVOlve said:
I noticed this at first as well. But I found that if I used the on screen shutter button instead of the physical button it wasn't fuzzy. Also noticed that if I immediately went to burst shots with the physical button the first one was fuzzy while the subsequent pics were okay. Finally attributed it to the pressure required to fully depress the physical button was jarring the phone just enough to cause it to be blurry. That is if you take a single shot with the physical button without using the half press to focus first they usually come out a tad blurry.
As long as I use the half press to hold the focus before taking the shot it seems fine or I use the on screen button.
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LOL this is because you don't have steady hands and you pressing down with one finger makes ur hand shake a bit as u take the picture.... which is expected.... it's not the fone is human error hun...
Apologies but the search is down. Can someone tell me how the camera is with this fella?
Quite excellent, very fast in low light and extremely fast during the day when the sun is strong.
But since it's 4mp, it has some noise issues but not bad at all. Go check this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2238529
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Quite excellent, very fast in low light and extremely fast during the day when the sun is strong.
But since it's 4mp, it has some noise issues but not bad at all. Go check this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2238529
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Apologies but the search is down. Can someone tell me how the camera is with this fella?
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There are a lot of folks that have had problems with the camera on this model too. Google "HTC One camera focus", and you will see what I mean. Also, there are issues with many people having blue and purple graininess in low-light conditions. Supposedly, HTC is working on a "software fix" for both issues, but I am not holding my breath.
I have the G2 right now and I came from HTC one. I believe HTC one has a much better camera in low light. G2 over processes the pictures and night pictures are horrible. I have yet to see a phone that takes better pics than HTC one at night. I'd rather have a good night camera since most of my pics are indoors over something like G2 that is just not working for me. Wide angle lens has me kind of spoiled too.
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There are a lot of folks that have had problems with the camera on this model too. Google "HTC One camera focus", and you will see what I mean. Also, there are issues with many people having blue and purple graininess in low-light conditions. Supposedly, HTC is working on a "software fix" for both issues, but I am not holding my breath.
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If you're up for it run a custom ROM and never fret about manufacturer updates again. Stock software problems become non-issues.
Quite simply, the images themselves are not bad, but the lens distorts horribly. It's too wide and people look silly.
Since you specifically asked about the camera... I honestly couldn't recommend this phone any less (due to the camera.) The phone itself? Excellent. Mine has minor build quality defects, but I don't foresee them to be detrimental to the livelihood of the phone over the next few years.
The camera, however, is incredibly unreliable, and not up to snuff with the standards set in smart phones over the past few years. My Galaxy S2 took marginally better photos than this camera is capable of. Good shots from this shooter are, quite literally, 1 out of 100. It only adds insult to injury that these good shots are pretty damn good. Not once have I managed to whip the phone out and point-and-shoot my way to a great shot on the first attempt, either. Here's a few examples of what I consider to be worthy shots from this camera. Each one took around 4-5 attempts to remedy focusing/white balancing/ISO issues. Finally, here's an example of a point-and-shoot situation. This pretty accurately represents the kind of photos I get from this phone in everyday usage; decent color representation, but poor white balancing, and poor detail in anything more than 5 feet away -- notice there's no distinguishable focal point -- everything is out of focus.
Barring the sub-standard photo quality, mine is useless in low light situations, due to the purple/pink discoloration of images, and poor focusing. Check out this thread about the issue -- it's pushing 300 pages of replies in just over 4 months.
On the flipside, if you give this lens the tons of natural light that it needs, you're bound to get some excellent shots. I noticed that trend pretty quickly in the photo thread linked above -- outdoor shots are mostly great, indoor shots are mostly terrible (no offense to any of you who contributed to that thread!)
If you were to say you wanted an awesome smart phone that just so happened to take pictures, I'd probably have much better things to say about the device. Since you asked about the camera, I encourage you to avoid it like the plague. It's such a disappointment to me, a guy who has had a lifelong appreciation for cameras and photography, that I began considering my other options only a month into owning the phone. I'm even curious about the Nexus 5, and no one even knows how that camera behaves yet.
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I have the G2 right now and I came from HTC one. I believe HTC one has a much better camera in low light. G2 over processes the pictures and night pictures are horrible. I have yet to see a phone that takes better pics than HTC one at night. I'd rather have a good night camera since most of my pics are indoors over something like G2 that is just not working for me. Wide angle lens has me kind of spoiled too.
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If you need a good camera phone for low light (Night) situations then you need a Lumia 92x or above. They are excellent on that department.
The camera is awesome. Just make sure you get a phone with a properly functioning sensor and you'll be blown away. Seriously.
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All taken with the HTC One. All by me. I hate seeing people put blame on something when really they just don't take the time to thoroughly learn and use it properly. I mean, It's not a magic box guys, you do have to do some work and learn the settings and different modes and what works best for the situation you're in.. Cheers!
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I'm going to post this thread here which extensively (300 pages) covers the issues surrounding this camera. I hope you don't get scared by this and determine that you should avoid the phone, because as @mrrick said, if you get a properly functioning one the results are excellent.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317507
Things to keep in mind:
Around 85% of launch units have this problem.
It seems very unlikely at this point that a software fix will solve the problem and lead to normal pictures.
The only way people have fixed it is by getting a new phone or sensor.
More recent batches may not be affected. The June one I just got as a replacement is excellent.
Try to check the serial number of the phone before hand and look for HT36... or maybe 35 onwards, just not 32,3, or 4 (the second number is the month of manufacture). Of course try the camera before you leave the store too by putting it down on the table - if it has the problem, the screen will turn red.
Other than this, I don't think there are any problems with the camera.
Don't let this put you off, it's an amazing phone you won't regret buying!
I just bought a LG G2 as well and the One takes much better pictures especially in low lighting. The bad thing about it is only 4mp, so when the picture is blown up on a larger screen, the quality of the photo lowers. Not a lot of detail and also sometimes grainy. But on the phone itself, it looks spectacular.
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Xerro-Five said:
I'm going to post this thread here which extensively (300 pages) covers the issues surrounding this camera. I hope you don't get scared by this and determine that you should avoid the phone, because as @mrrick said, if you get a properly functioning one the results are excellent.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317507
Things to keep in mind:
Around 85% of launch units have this problem.
It seems very unlikely at this point that a software fix will solve the problem and lead to normal pictures.
The only way people have fixed it is by getting a new phone or sensor.
More recent batches may not be affected. The June one I just got as a replacement is excellent.
Try to check the serial number of the phone before hand and look for HT36... or maybe 35 onwards, just not 32,3, or 4 (the second number is the month of manufacture). Of course try the camera before you leave the store too by putting it down on the table - if it has the problem, the screen will turn red.
Other than this, I don't think there are any problems with the camera.
Don't let this put you off, it's an amazing phone you won't regret buying!
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That explains so much!! Whenever I try taking pictures in low light I get a red looking blotch on the screen(always wondered why it was there)...didnt notice any reduction in quality though, but thats probably because i didnt get to take photos on a more recent One..got mine in May
It's funny how people feel the need to lie about taking pictures with a certain camera. The camera with the One is not bad but a lot of other devices are better in this department.
I have one of those early production models (I got mine in May) and have the same problems with the camera. This is my 4th HTC Phone and I have exchanged 2 out of the 4 at this point for design flaws, with this about to be the 4th. They have given me crap (being AT&T) for exchanging the phone for "minor" feature problems that aren't critical to the function of the phone, being the ability to send/receive communications.
If I take my phone to AT&T with proof, are they going to give me crap for trying to exchange it for a replacement? I'm just trying to see if anyone else has this experience, since I'm tired of missing out on shots of my kids. My wife can just whip out her iPhone and take a perfect picture on the first try and it pisses me off.
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the camera is really good but the only flaw is when you zoom in images get blurry and if taking pictures outside the sunlight destroys the picture
I love my phone, but I hate the camera. When I was on a GPE ROM I was better off describing things I wanted to take pictures of in 100 words or less. Now that I'm back on a sense ROM people can make out what I'm taking pictures of, but there's so much to be desired.
the screen gets bluish when viewing at an angle like those cheap old tv's that you have to watch directly in front. Anybody else notice this? is this normal?
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the screen gets bluish when viewing at an angle like those cheap old tv's that you have to watch directly in front. Anybody else notice this? is this normal?
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first thing i notice about the screen the notice the grainy part at low light. coming from a note 8 it was bothering me like hell the blue tint shifting but now i dont even notice it. i just enjoy the phone and think the screen looks great.
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first thing i notice about the screen the notice the grainy part at low light. coming from a note 8 it was bothering me like hell the blue tint shifting but now i dont even notice it. i just enjoy the phone and think the screen looks great.
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Never had this bluish tint on any phone before. Is there a setting for this? Im gonna wait for more replies to see if this is normal. I have 13 more days to return.
Mine has it but I don't find it to be extreme. I prefer the slight blue hue to some other devices that are slightly pink or yellow at an angle. I have to put my device at an angle I'd rarely (if ever) use to see the blue tint.
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Never had this bluish tint on any phone before. Is there a setting for this? Im gonna wait for more replies to see if this is normal. I have 13 more days to return.
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Actually is "normal".
All reviewers I read in my country (Italy) said something about blueshing whites with different angles, so I think that it's a common issue with the P-OLED technology ATM, so if it's a problem for you change phone and avoid the Pixel XL2 and the V30.
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the screen gets bluish when viewing at an angle like those cheap old tv's that you have to watch directly in front. Anybody else notice this? is this normal?
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No, looking at your phone from an angle is not normal. Most people look at their phones head on.
Settings-Display-Screen Color. If it's on Normal you will see more blue hue. I changed mine to Photo and that reduced the blue significantly. There is a custom setting. Don't know if you tried this yet. If you did and still have an issue, then I don't know what to add...
Take Care!!
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Never had this bluish tint on any phone before. Is there a setting for this? Im gonna wait for more replies to see if this is normal. I have 13 more days to return.
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i guess u never had an amoled screen phone. galaxy s6 and s7 suffer from color shifting but samsung has better quality control over their screen since only a few devices has this. LG probably didnt care much about this issue and my guess is that most v30 have this problem. is lg first attempt on oled screen since the flex serious but they really need to work on their panel issue. dont bother exchanging.l since u probably going to get anothe device with same or even worse color shifting. if u cant live with it and want an lg phone, wait for lg g7 and wait for review to pops up.
this issue does not bother me and i already own a s8, s8 plus and note 8. v30 screen might not be good compare to those but to me it still a beautifull screen
on the side note. lg gave us 2 year warranty. maybe a new batch a few month ahead fix this issue and we can do a warranty replacement
This seems relatively widespread, although may be to differing extents, as there are reports of the same blue tint on angle for the pixel 2 xl which also have oled panels by lg
having the phone lying on a table makes me look at it at an angle all the time. this is an issue. Samsungs display are quite advanced over the LG displays it seems.
But I don't change the angle all the time while looking at the screen, so I don't notice it too much.
Also, whenever I don't have a uniform or white background, I hardly notice (although the tint is strong).
e.g. when holding looking from the bottom, which I do often (when it is laying in the table)
Any Ideas, if this will be fixed next year, or is this technology based and remains? (samsung has redish tint, e.g. IphoneX)
You can try these color settings. It seems to help lessen the blue tint. https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/v30-screen-colors-achieving-d65-white-t3695617
"Screen Color:*
Select Custom and hit the gear icon
Color Temperature: Cooler (slider all the way to the left).
RGB Levels:
Red: maximum
Green: maximum
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Result: x=.285, y=.325
If this is too green for you and you're ok with a little more blueness, decrease green until you're happy."
carlaron said:
having the phone lying on a table makes me look at it at an angle all the time. this is an issue. Samsungs display are quite advanced over the LG displays it seems.
But I don't change the angle all the time while looking at the screen, so I don't notice it too much.
Also, whenever I don't have a uniform or white background, I hardly notice (although the tint is strong).
e.g. when holding looking from the bottom, which I do often (when it is laying in the table)
Any Ideas, if this will be fixed next year, or is this technology based and remains? (samsung has redish tint, e.g. IphoneX)
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hardware limitation. Samsung's have it too just much less. i notice it sitting on a table also, so try to angle it right. aside from that it's a nice clean panel. it's 1 of only 2 complaints i have, this and no led. no big deal over here. nicer than my htc10 display, that's for sure. better phone, too.
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hardware limitation. Samsung's have it too just much less. i notice it sitting on a table also, so try to angle it right. aside from that it's a nice clean panel. it's 1 of only 2 complaints i have, this and no led. no big deal over here. nicer than my htc10 display, that's for sure. better phone, too.
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Non-issue.
I look at my display straight on, when it's unlocked.
If I'm not actually holding my phone -- if it's on a table or on tilted Qi wireless charging pad -- then the display is LOCKED and the black & white "Always On Display" is showing me notifications. There's NO blue tint on AOD.
But if I'm holding my own phone and looking at it, reading emails, I couldn't care less about OTHER people not being able to read my screen due to some off-angle, slightly blueish tint. It's none of their business.
Maybe someone will yell at me, "Hey, tell LG to get rid of that off-angle blue tint so I can read YOUR emails better!"
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I actually like that other people standing to the side probably can't read my emails or texts...
When my display is unlocked, I don't hold my phone sideways with the volume buttons pointing towards my eyes. So, I never see any blueish tint...
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ChazzMatt said:
Non-issue.
I look at my display straight on, when it's unlocked.
If I'm not actually holding my phone -- if it's on a table or on tilted Qi wireless charging pad -- then the display is LOCKED and the black & white "Always On Display" is showing me notifications. There's NO blue tint on AOD.
But if I'm holding my own phone and looking at it, reading emails, I couldn't care less about OTHER people not being able to read my screen due to some off-angle, slightly blueish tint. It's none of their business.
Maybe someone will yell at me, "Hey, tell LG to get rid of that off-angle blue tint so I can read YOUR emails better!"
I actually like that other people standing to the side probably can't read my emails...
When my display is unlocked, I don't hold my phone sideways with the volume buttons pointing towards my eyes. So, I never see any blueish tint...
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Agreed. It can be pretty severe but doesn't affect me at all as there's no need (for me at least) to look at such a small, handheld device from an angle. Would be an issue if it was a TV obviously. I guess some people might disagree if they need to look at their screen from an angle often for whatever reason, but if that's the case they should definitely go with another model.
Don't call a bug/quality issue a feature... that is just too lame. Of course Samsung has the issue, it tints red, but at a way lower rate. IPS is greater in many ways. Of course not in rich blacks.
Does anybody know if there are any display revisions within the V30? Some reports about the pixel (TheVerge) say that newer phones may be less affected.
The blue tint bothers me, but I really like the phone. Just wish there was a litte less tint.
Anybody know if there are different display versions? qualityise?
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Don't call a bug/quality issue a feature... that is just too lame. Of course Samsung has the issue, it tints red, but at a way lower rate. IPS is greater in many ways. Of course not in rich blacks.
Does anybody know if there are any display revisions within the V30? Some reports about the pixel (TheVerge) say that newer phones may be less affected.
The blue tint bothers me, but I really like the phone. Just wish there was a litte less tint.
Anybody know if there are different display versions? qualityise?
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So the Pixels are now equal to the V30? Because theirs was even bluer than the V30.
I don't see it because I don't look sideways at either of my LG V39/V30+. phone. My wife hasn't said a word about hers either.
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So the Pixels are now equal to the V30? Because theirs was even bluer than the V30.
I don't see it because I don't look sideways at either of my LG V39/V30+. phone. My wife hasn't said a word about hers either.
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take 5 pixel2xl and 5 v30, they are all different in screen quality... that is what bothers me.
maybe they come from several production batches, but technically they are the same.
does anybody know if there are any screen hw revisions on either pixel2xl or v30?
I know that different people have different opinion about quality. some use pc monitors with TN panels... not because they are so nice to look at, but because they are gamers and the panels switch fast.
oled is a promising technology, but LCD is way more mature... If you don't see the tint or if it does not bother you, that is ok for me. but I see it alot, and it bothers me. because I use several devices all day long; and if my personal device looks inferior/different, then I don't like that for the price paid...