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Hi Guys,
I would have tacked this onto the back of an existing thread, but the only relevant ones I could find were in development (I’m still under 10 posts) – and this is more of a general usage question anyway.
I’m running CM7.0.2 and been I’ve been using Apps2SD (darktremor) for a month or so. The onboard memory for apps on the Legend is abysmal, so freeing space up and being able to have more than half a dozen apps is great. I was looking to take up Data2ext too. I’m still S-ON (I haven’t found a serious need for S-OFF yet, and I figure the less access I have to the bowels of my phone, the less likely I’m gonna brick it), so still using CWM2.x and obviously not running EXT4 yet.
Just wanted to ask a couple of stupid n00b questions before I try anything (I’d rather ask this now, then be posting “help I ****ed up my phone” later on).
- Am I right in believing that that data2ext only moves app data, not the apps themselves to the SD car so I need to continue using apps2sd as a companion script?
- Does data2ext need its own additional partition setting up prior – or does it create its own partition/utilize an existing partition? If there needs to be a preconfigured partition, any recommendations on how much space to allocate?
- Is there anything in particular that I need to know before I run through TGF’s guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=902395)?
Thanks for the help guys!
data2ext will use the partition that darktremor currently uses, and you don't want to have dark tremor and data2ext on at the same time, funny things happen.
Data2ext remounts the entire data partition to a partition on the SD card. So anything that gets written to /data (apps, app data etc) goes to the SD card instead.
You need to know that this could go wrong, but I think the first post covers most of it.
That makes sense. I previously wasn’t sure if data2ext only moved app data only, and apps2sd still needed to be used to move the actual apps themselves. As that’s not the case, it’ll make things much easier not having to **** around with 2 different scripts to hopefully get them to play nicely.
I did actually end up stepping up to Blayo’s fake-flash CWM 3.0.1.3 yesterday; though I’m still trying to work out partitions/file systems with it – creating partitions in CWM recovery defaults to EXT3 with no option to set EXT4, and after manually creating an EXT4 partition in GParted CWM wouldn’t let me mount /sd-ext. As your initial post already details formatting /sd-ext to EXT4 anyway, it’ll be interesting to see how nicely this plays with 3.0.1.3.
Thanks for the disclaimer on the risks involved. Without intending to sound patronising; I’m well aware there is the ever present potential to really **** things up, and that I do only have limited knowledge compared to a lot of people posting on xda – which is why I try and get any/all information available before hand, and follow instructions given closely.
Coo'. Just shout if you need help, I'm subscribed to this thread so I should see it
Seems to have worked like a charm.
One question though – I know you can confirm data2ext is successfully running by launching "data2ext --enable" a second time after the final reboot, but is there any means to monitor the used/available space on /sd-ext?
Both Titanium Backup and a2sdGUI allowed me to keep tabs on this, but Ti is unable to see the /sd-ext partition now (I haven’t bothered installing a2sdGUI, not really any point).
It might be a small thing, but if possible I would like to be able to see it fill up, just to give me piece of mind all is OK.
*edit* scratch that last part, just noticed Android and Ti now sees the Internal Memory as a total combined capacity the internal memory + /sd-ext. Eitherway, I'm up and running
i no my question is noob but still.....i m using CM7 nd CWM 2.5.0.7....if i use d optioned partition ur sd card....is dat data to ext ? ndnd wat is swap size ? also how to check what claSS SDCARD I HAVE... I HAVE 16GB KINGSTON SDCARD!
I've a noob question too, if the sd card is partitioned to allow some internal apps to run on this special partition what is currently the safest procedure to do this?
tushar_beriwal said:
i no my question is noob but still.....i m using CM7 nd CWM 2.5.0.7....if i use d optioned partition ur sd card....is dat data to ext ? ndnd wat is swap size ? also how to check what claSS SDCARD I HAVE... I HAVE 16GB KINGSTON SDCARD!
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The Class should be written on the Card.. in a circle..
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I got mine up and running last night... created a 1 gig partition for data... data2ext is active, but my phone is now SLOW as molasses. SD card is Class 10 and tests on a computer reveal it to be fast.
I'm at a loss.
Konowl said:
I got mine up and running last night... created a 1 gig partition for data... data2ext is active, but my phone is now SLOW as molasses. SD card is Class 10 and tests on a computer reveal it to be fast.
I'm at a loss.
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The card probably doesn't handle small files very well. Class 4 seems to be the best bet for data2ext
You're kidding. Ugh! Maybe it was the method I used to format?
TheGrammarFreak said:
The card probably doesn't handle small files very well. Class 4 seems to be the best bet for data2ext
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Seriously?
So are you using a class 4 with your own cm data2ext script and in ext2 or ext4?
Serious.. It is mentioned several times before by Blay0. Even a fast card will work very slow with data2ext. Why do you even need data2ext? Are you a developed? If not app2ad should beer enough for you... NInge really needs data to be on as i they are not often changing system files..
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whitetigerdk said:
Serious.. It is mentioned several times before by Blay0. Even a fast card will work very slow with data2ext. Why do you even need data2ext? Are you a developed? If not app2ad should beer enough for you... NInge really needs data to be on as i they are not often changing system files..
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easy man, i was just asking out of curiosity
i'm already using apps2ext and dont need data2ext, but it thought data2ext was slow on all card classes thats why i asked his setup just so i know
Hi,
Since this is a noob thread I'm feeling free to ask for help.
Somehow without any knowledge I've managed to Root my Legend, Flash roms numerous times, make my Legend S-Off, twig and play with different options like splash screen and all sorts of stuff that you need a bit or more of development knowledge. I'm a psychologist - I have no knowledge whatsoever.
Now that I've flashed ogo2's rom found here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=987251, I have cut down internal space to about 20MB+-.
I need help with this whole data2ext, ext2/ext4 and all the commands I've never met in earlier development stuff I've done to my Legend.
Where do I start? Is there anywhere I can read a noob guide for these issues?
Please help!
reupugi
edit: Oh I forgot - I have 8 GB class 4 card.
What help do you need? Understanding what it is and how it works? Or just setting it up.
Are you planning on using the data2ext found in my thread, or somewhere else?
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Hi TGF,
I need help mainly with setting it up. I have no intention learning developing through trying here and there to implement different things others created.
My intention was to use the data2ext you created.
At the moment I've changed back to the nightly builds of CM7 (currently #153), since I had sync problems with ogo2's ROM. So I'm not so pressured space wise, but I'll still be glad to go through with the Data2ext.
Thanx,
reupugi
Ok, well the guide in the first post covers most of it, is there a specific bit you're stuck on?
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It assumes I understand how to create ext2 or ext4, or to choose between the two. DO I have to backup my SD card when I create an ext2/4 partition?
Where do I use the commands in your post of data2ext?
reupugi said:
It assumes I understand how to create ext2 or ext4, or to choose between the two. DO I have to backup my SD card when I create an ext2/4 partition?
Where do I use the commands in your post of data2ext?
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You do need to backup your sd card, our you lose all your data. Rom manager has an option for creating ext partitions on your sd card, and I'd go for ext4, as it's safer. There's a section in that thread on upgrading from the ext2 version. Create your position with rom manager, then follow that section through. The commands can be executed on the phone using a terminal emulator, or from the pc using adb.
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hi people!! im impressed one more time with the new rom 2.1.9!! but i have a question related to one of its new features which i dont understand very well... i hope some one has a little time to explain it with details to help me and other people who may have these same questions...
first of all whats partition and swap? i suppose partition is to take a part of ur sd card for aps and all this stuff, but swap?
second... i dont have any partition and i always move lots of aps to sd card without problem,then,why should i do a parition? is there any advantage in doing it?? in that case, is there a guide around here to do it in an easy way?
and finally.. swap! what is it for? is there advantages in doing it? in that case what are them and how could i do it in an easy way?
i hope some one could have a moment to explain it a little bit but please as clear as possible,taking into account im a full noob in this topic... and if anyone have more questions related to this topic post here if u want...
i would just like fully understanding all the functions, possibilities and goods of my x10 mini and this incredible rom...
thanks everybody who wants to help!!!
About swap and partition, actually I've tried it both, but it just makes my device slower (even on class 10 SD card)... Maybe, the explanation of this issue is because our phone already use up speed reading files and programs installed on SD card, so swap just makes it any harder...
I tried partitioning my sd card with swap file, using swapper, swapper2, but the best result is when I don''t partition my sd card at all..
Then, the next question perhaps : then why are there swap availability ? That I can't answer...
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StardustGeass said:
About swap and partition, actually I've tried it both, but it just makes my device slower (even on class 10 SD card)... Maybe, the explanation of this issue is because our phone already use up speed reading files and programs installed on SD card, so swap just makes it any harder...
I tried partitioning my sd card with swap file, using swapper, swapper2, but the best result is when I don''t partition my sd card at all..
Then, the next question perhaps : then why are there swap availability ? That I can't answer...
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thx for ur answer!! at least u can talk from experience... the fact is that i feel my phone runs amazingly without these swap and partition things... but as u say, taking into account they are available i wanted to know if it would be even better for my phone to try them.
however watching ur results i will stay without swap and partitions, because i have all i need in my phone and still free space
thank u buddy!
Hey there everyone,
I've got a question that im impatient to know if its possible or not :
The Xperia U has a total of 6GB for personal use. 2GB for apps and 4GB for Data.
Can we trade between those 2 sections ? What i mean is :
Can i configure the phone (somehow) to have 1GB for apps and 5GB for Data ?
For me,2GB for apps is excessive and 4GB for Data is a bit low so tradeing 1GB between them would make it perfectly balanced.
Anyone know if its possible ?o.o
Respect
xtrmshadow said:
Hey there everyone,
I've got a question that im impatient to know if its possible or not :
The Xperia U has a total of 6GB for personal use. 2GB for apps and 4GB for Data.
Can we trade between those 2 sections ? What i mean is :
Can i configure the phone (somehow) to have 1GB for apps and 5GB for Data ?
For me,2GB for apps is excessive and 4GB for Data is a bit low so tradeing 1GB between them would make it perfectly balanced.
Anyone know if its possible ?o.o
Respect
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should be possible if the partition can be edited...have been digging on the same doubt for quite a while now....i think it can be done.
Rom manager app has an option for partitioning sd card but never used it
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Thanks for making this question.
It would be really cool if someone helps out on this.
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I tried a few apps like Rom Manager ,andromizer and more but nope,its not gonna work.
I've been reading around tho that people who needed to enlarge the App internal memory ,could do it by repartitioning the Data partition and use a few scripts.
Also there is another solution which is copy the files to /system/app and "Directory Link" them to a false one on the SD card,but thats a pain.
Problem is none of those seem to work ,i tried linking directories but nope wont work. Also repartitioning the Data Partition means formatting the current ROM which i cant really do as i need my phone intact with all the info/apps/config that it has atm,not to mention we dont even know if that would work because all of those reparitioning use SDCard's and its ment to EXPAND/Enlarge the App Internal Memory...not reduce it (which is what we want).
*confused*
Somebody please throw light in here!
@DevSwift @jatinrungta @DroidModderXtreme
Please Help! regarding this
You need a kernel with a partition editor in the ramdisk (the Ace 2 CM10.2 has parted, I'd prefer (also) having gdisk as it isn't limited to creating partitions in order -- that's sufficient on the Samsung, can't say if it could work on the Sony without seeing a partitions dump first), a ROM in zip format (if you want to resize /system too), a computer with ADB and a calculator
xtrmshadow said:
Hey there everyone,
I've got a question that im impatient to know if its possible or not :
The Xperia U has a total of 6GB for personal use. 2GB for apps and 4GB for Data.
Can we trade between those 2 sections ? What i mean is :
Can i configure the phone (somehow) to have 1GB for apps and 5GB for Data ?
For me,2GB for apps is excessive and 4GB for Data is a bit low so tradeing 1GB between them would make it perfectly balanced.
Anyone know if its possible ?o.o
Respect
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You can using partition resizer program posted by munjeni somewhere in forum just note do not touch 1-9 partition just mmcblk0p10 (this one is system,then goes data,cache etc) and after you find what you need,delete them and make new ones.
Not problem really.
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I saw a thread on this last week, before I'd rooted the tablet, and can't find it any more. Please feel free to point me if my question's already been answered!
I have an A101It, so gen 8. I've just rooted it with the '-rw' method on here. Thing is, I can still only use the SD card for file storage - can't even move apps onto it - and would really like to know how to get the system using it as extra 'internal' memory. I might possibly be looking to use it as a swap file, I'm not clear on the terminology. At the very least I should be able to install apps to it, shouldn't I?
Can you do this with the root method I've used, or should I undo that and use uruk droid instead? Has anybody posted working instructions on getting some performance advantage from an SD card? (Or shall I just fill it up with 32gb of pointless home videos that nobody will watch?)
Not sure if i can help but ill try it anyways , did u try the ''app 2 sd'' apps?
I used them when my internal storage was full so i could move my apps to my SD card so i had enough space again.
Hope this helps!
Hi guys, so I've got this tablet for free with my new contract and I want to root it to play a bit with it . Do you guys have any idea how to do it ? I haven't managed to find any tutorials on the web .
Vonino Onyx QS root request
+1 on this issue.
I too have a Vonino Onyx QS tablet running on Android 4.4.2. The device is decent enough, but storage management is awful! Despite being advertised as an 8 GB tablet in terms of storage, the Onyx QS runs aground at about 900 MB of installed apps (including related data and cache) and starts yelling that there is "Insufficient storage available". This renders the tablet virtually unusable after installing just a few essential apps. Emails stop working, apps will no longer update and data-intensive apps such as Google Earth will simply refuse to run. The 32 GB external SD card I've added makes no difference. It's almost like the OS has no clue what to do with it.
I suck at Android. However, after a lot of digging for pieces of information I've come to undersand that these devices use separate partitions for the apps and other files. Some folks have also hinted towards the fact that the puny 0.9 GB app partition can be resized on a rooted device by means of a partition management app. Or apps could at least be moved to the SD card right before their installation (making use of an app such as Link2SD and, again, a rooted device).
This bring us full circle back to the OP's request: could someone please create and explain a rooting method for this tablet?
Just so you know, these are fresh screenshots of this fresh factory reset configuration. Thought it would fix the problem, but it didn't.
SilentGTX said:
Hi guys, so I've got this tablet for free with my new contract and I want to root it to play a bit with it . Do you guys have any idea how to do it ? I haven't managed to find any tutorials on the web .
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Muravey said:
+1 on this issue.
I too have a Vonino Onyx QS tablet running on Android 4.4.2. The device is decent enough, but storage management is awful! Despite being advertised as an 8 GB tablet in terms of storage, the Onyx QS runs aground at about 900 MB of installed apps (including related data and cache) and starts yelling that there is "Insufficient storage available". This renders the tablet virtually unusable after installing just a few essential apps. Emails stop working, apps will no longer update and data-intensive apps such as Google Earth will simply refuse to run. The 32 GB external SD card I've added makes no difference. It's almost like the OS has no clue what to do with it.
I suck at Android. However, after a lot of digging for pieces of information I've come to undersand that these devices use separate partitions for the apps and other files. Some folks have also hinted towards the fact that the puny 0.9 GB app partition can be resized on a rooted device by means of a partition management app. Or apps could at least be moved to the SD card right before their installation (making use of an app such as Link2SD and, again, a rooted device).
This bring us full circle back to the OP's request: could someone please create and explain a rooting method for this tablet?
Just so you know, these are fresh screenshots of this fresh factory reset configuration. Thought it would fix the problem, but it didn't.
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try with Kingo ROOT. You do it at you'r own risk.
Successful rooting of Vonino Onyx QS tablet
Paget96 said:
try with Kingo ROOT. You do it at you'r own risk.
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Hi, Paget96! Thank you so much for the solution!
I'm writing this to let you, the OP and everybody else know that Kingo Root did it! I have succesfully rooted the tablet and the process itself was quick and merely a matter of installing the software on my PC, connecting the tablet via USB and clicking my way through.
Afterwards I installed Link2SD Plus to manage the transfer of apps from internal storage to the external SD card (32 GB in my case). The app is dirt cheap and truly what you need, because the free version does not allow you to move app data, only the app itself and its libraries. As I've come to know, data and cache build-up is what ends up killing storage space.
Before installing Link2SD however, one must prepare the SD card by means of a partitioning program. Highly recommend you do this via card reader on an actual PC. Use MiniTool Partition Wizard, it seems to be very popular these days. Delete whatever's already on the card and make two PRIMARY partitions: the first one will be FAT32 and will store the media you consume (like music, photos, videos etc.), while the second partition has to be ext4 (ext2 did not work for me on this tablet) and will hold the apps and their data. You can go ahead and name them "Media" and "Apps" respectively to avoid confusion. Remember: both must be primary partitions, the first one is FAT32 for media, the second is ext4 for apps. I made my app partition 10 GB big. Overkill, you say? Hey, I'm done with insufficient storage space errors, ok? :silly:
While you're at it, you might want to add a third partition for swap space to add more RAM to your device. There are tutorials for it on the web.
Once you're done formatting the card, reinstall it in the tablet, open up Link2SD and choose ext4 at the script mounting prompt. From there on, moving apps from internal to SD card space should be intuitive.
Prior to all this fiddling I suggest you perform a factory reset on your device so you can start clean. Can't tell you anythihg about custom ROMs or stuff like that because I didn't have a need for them. This thing works fine apart from that silly storage limitation.
Phew! I can finally enjoy using my tablet... :fingers-crossed:
Muravey said:
Hi, Paget96! Thank you so much for the solution!
I'm writing this to let you, the OP and everybody else know that Kingo Root did it! I have succesfully rooted the tablet and the process itself was quick and merely a matter of installing the software on my PC, connecting the tablet via USB and clicking my way through.
Afterwards I installed Link2SD Plus to manage the transfer of apps from internal storage to the external SD card (32 GB in my case). The app is dirt cheap and truly what you need, because the free version does not allow you to move app data, only the app itself and its libraries. As I've come to know, data and cache build-up is what ends up killing storage space.
Before installing Link2SD however, one must prepare the SD card by means of a partitioning program. Highly recommend you do this via card reader on an actual PC. Use MiniTool Partition Wizard, it seems to be very popular these days. Delete whatever's already on the card and make two PRIMARY partitions: the first one will be FAT32 and will store the media you consume (like music, photos, videos etc.), while the second partition has to be ext4 (ext2 did not work for me on this tablet) and will hold the apps and their data. You can go ahead and name them "Media" and "Apps" respectively to avoid confusion. Remember: both must be primary partitions, the first one is FAT32 for media, the second is ext4 for apps. I made my app partition 10 GB big. Overkill, you say? Hey, I'm done with insufficient storage space errors, ok? :silly:
While you're at it, you might want to add a third partition for swap space to add more RAM to your device. There are tutorials for it on the web.
Once you're done formatting the card, reinstall it in the tablet, open up Link2SD and choose ext4 at the script mounting prompt. From there on, moving apps from internal to SD card space should be intuitive.
Prior to all this fiddling I suggest you perform a factory reset on your device so you can start clean. Can't tell you anythihg about custom ROMs or stuff like that because I didn't have a need for them. This thing works fine apart from that silly storage limitation.
Phew! I can finally enjoy using my tablet... :fingers-crossed:
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10gb is too big, you will broke your sd.
Better use 512mb.
Paget96 said:
10gb is too big, you will broke your sd.
Better use 512mb.
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Could you expand on that one, please? Why am I at risk of ruining the SD card?
Muravey said:
Could you expand on that one, please? Why am I at risk of ruining the SD card?
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Brcause sd work without stop, that is not good.
SD prob
Hi, i have the same tablet ... and i managed to root it ... but i cant manage to increse the storage . l've done the exact stepts ... installed micropartition deleted my sd card (2gb micro sd samasung) i did the first partition fat32 primary with a size of 800 gb and when i try to make the second one ext4 the program says that windows cant see the second partion on a removable device but i continuued anyways ,,, and created the second one with ext2 and then with ext4 as primary ... my windows and my tablet cant see the second partion ... need a little help ... thx
I heave installed the drivers, and nothing happens. Its not connecting to my pc. I changed the pc too. I heave the error: Unfortunately, Mobile data has stopped. I tryed to repair this with recovery -- Wipe data, factory reset. Not working.