Okay, I apologize if this thread is posted somewhere else on here, but this is my problem. I have a HTC Thunderbolt, rooted with the new update (1.70.605.0) prevent the frequent reboots. But now that I’ve put the update on there, if I flash a custom rom it automatically removes the update, putting me back with the rebooting issues again. So, to get to the point, is there a way to flash a custom rom but yet keep the new update?
You have to flash a ROM based on that update. Look in the descriptions of the ROM's to find out if it is or not.
I've been looking almost everywhere, and I don't think there's a rom that fits those specs out.
The very action of flashing a ROM is to replace the current one. To give some clarity: there are 3 pieces of software that the phone requires. A radio, hboot, and an OS; usually called a ROM. Your update included a radio which was the reason for the reboots. Any ROM that will work with That radio should yield performance equal to or better than what you have.
I'm sorry I'm kinda new to this all that's why I seem kinda lost. But basically all I need to do, is put the root in, den flash the radio that came with the update?
I'm sorry i worded that all wrong. The only thing that the rom with the update comes with is, busybox and deodexed. It also comes with the 1.70.605.0 radio. Say if i flashed the thunderbolt rom in my phone. After installing it, will it do away with that radio and update or will it remain in there. If not, if i flashed the updated radio with the thunderbolt rom will it pretty much be the same as the update and keep me from having unwanted reboots?
Radios are not included with a ROM. Only the kernel and the ROM change when you flash a ROM.
ROM's are flashed in recovery, Radio's are flashed from the root of your SD card using HBOOT. You get to hboot by powering off your phone, or just do a battery pull, then hold the Volume down button while powering on the phone.
Just make sure that the radio can be used on the ROM. The original post of any ROM thread will list the recommend radio(s) to use.
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Okay, thanks for all the help. Last question, after the putting a rom in with the ota update in. I flashed to another rom, but once i did that the ota update was no longer there, so i tried the update while running the custom rom and it wouldnt go through leaving me withe the old ota. is there a way to still put the update on after flashing?
I Have restorted to being the noob that signs up to ask a question...The other day I was driving (pre-root) and I look down to notice my phone had power cycled on its own. I thought it would come back one, boy I was wrong....
It spiralled into endless boot cycle. It would at first reboot get to the 4g screen and then back to the htc...over and over. I was able to get into Hboot, and atempt to do a factory reset that didnt help because it became a endless reboot that way as well.
Now before any of you say "why dont you warranty replace the phone" Im a VZW agent, alas we dont have a warranty on our phones when it comes to our concessions lines...
Now, at that point I said enough is enough and I delved into the world of rooting. I self taught everything within a few hours. I had my phone unlocked and ready to go. I picked Ineffabile (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420513) to use as a rom, I followed the procedure to a T it installed correctly, but then when it came back on everything seemed to work fine...for about 5 minutes and then it happened agian a power cycle all over again. and again...and again. It now comes on works for about 5mins and then reboots.
Im at a complete loss at this point I have gone back into the SD card and deleted the ph98 file etc.... I just dont know what to do. I need this phone to work.
Any help is appreciated Thank you so much!
I know you said it's not the wcdma problem but will your phone stay booted with the back cover off?
Else I'd ruu back to stock. Could try the different radios and see if it helps.
If you want to try the older radios and are on the OTA you'll have to hexedit you mainver. There's a guide if you look.
older radios? Im still new to this so I applogize...
A couple weeks ago there was an OTA (over the air update) that updated the radios - what controls the calls part of your phone and can affect reception and other stuff, I don't know everything it does. So if you wanted to try the older ones there's a thread somewhere, I think by con247, that has the older ones.
Here's a couple guides to help you get familiar with rooting stuff:
http://androidforums.com/evo-3d-all-things-root/389787-beginners-guide-rooting-android-devices.html
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/129648-quick-intro-rooting-those-new-rooting.html
You can try flashing the kernel again. Sometimes bootlooping is a kernel issue, although it doesn't seem to be the cause of your situation.
How about insurance? Do you have that? Can you still get it?
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A couple weeks ago there was an OTA (over the air update) that updated the radios - what controls the calls part of your phone and can affect reception and other stuff, I don't know everything it does. So if you wanted to try the older ones there's a thread somewhere, I think by con247, that has the older ones.
You can try flashing the kernel again. Sometimes bootlooping is a kernel issue, although it doesn't seem to be the cause of your situation.
How about insurance? Do you have that? Can you still get it?
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I dont have insurance =/ and cant get it either. Im trying to find the radios, and what kernal should I be flashing? because I cannot find the one that should match the rom im using.
What I dont understand is why the phone powers on, works for a few moments like nothing is wrong what so ever. Then freezes and reboots.
Oh, there's a new way of packing a ROM with a script that then installs the kernel so I guess it's all together now on Ineffabilis. Here's a link to the MikMik forum where they still have the stock rooted kernel as a separate download:
http://themikmik.com/showthread.php...-Beats-Tweaks-2-01-605-11&p=164906#post164906
Just take off the part of the name before PH98IMG.zip, put it on your external sd card. Do a battery pull, then reboot into bootloader by holding volume down + power. It will flash it and I think reboot. Then delete the PHzip file after that.
Don't know if it will help...
Oh... when you flashed Ineffabilis, did you restore any data from a backup? If yes, try flashing again and not restoring any data, just set up everything again manually. Also, if you restored any data from another phone's backup that could have caused problems. Basically you don't want to restore data from a different ROM.
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Oh, there's a new way of packing a ROM with a script that then installs the kernel so I guess it's all together now on Ineffabilis. Here's a link to the MikMik forum where they still have the stock rooted kernel as a separate download:
Just take off the part of the name before PH98IMG.zip, put it on your external sd card. Do a battery pull, then reboot into bootloader by holding volume down + power. It will flash it and I think reboot. Then delete the PHzip file after that.
Don't know if it will help...
Oh... when you flashed Ineffabilis, did you restore any data from a backup? If yes, try flashing again and not restoring any data, just set up everything again manually. Also, if you restored any data from another phone's backup that could have caused problems. Basically you don't want to restore data from a different ROM.
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This is a clean SD card, and I didnt create a backup because I couldnt get the phone past Hboot when it was doing boot cycles previous to the root. I re-ruu'd right now. And im starting from scratch. I used clockwork before, Im trying amon ra now.
Hello,
I upgraded my Samsung Vibrant to Froyo 2.2 with Samsung Kies Mini several months ago. I reverted to Eclair 2.1 with Odin in order to install ClockworkMod Recovery and unlock my phone. Now my phone is unlocked, rooted and with ClockworkMod Recovery installed.
1. I want to flash custom ROMs based on either Gingerbread or ICS. I tried to unlock my bootloader by following the instructions on addictivetips.com (when I typed "fastboot oem unlock" it only reboots the phone). Why is it not asking me if I want to unlock the bootloader?
2. I did a Nandroid Backup and I wonder if I need to backup the boot partition anyway. If so, is it OK to do it with RomDump?
3. Since I reverted to Eclair 2.1, does that mean I have an Eclair bootloader? Or do I still have the Froyo bootloader? Will Gingerbread bootloaders work on ICS based ROMs?
Last... Could you please recommend ROMs to flash with Odin? The one I found on CyanogenMod comes with problems when dialing 911
Thank you for your patience!
Your rooted, and you have CWM. Your making it more difficult that need be.
Flash the ROM in CWM, with install zip from SD. Follow flashing instructions in the OP of the ROM.
There are custom GB bootloaders, I have them, but some people don't use them.
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Your rooted, and you have CWM. Your making it more difficult that need be.
Flash the ROM in CWM, with install zip from SD. Follow flashing instructions in the OP of the ROM.
There are custom GB bootloaders, I have them, but some people don't use them.
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Hello again... Yesterday I was looking for some JB ROMs, and I found a tutorial on "How to upgrade the Vibrant T959 to Android 4.1.1 Jelly Bean via Helly Bean custom ROM" and it says it requires the GB bootloader (can I flash Helly Bean without it?). Then I went to CyanogenMod and the latest stable releases are CM7; for CM10 there are only nightly builds. I found a tutorial on how to install CM10 and it doesn't mention anything about the GB bootloader.
I was tempted to flash Helly Bean but the bootloader requirement confuses me. I don't know if I should keep looking for other ROMs, ignore the bootloader thing :silly: or settle with CM10.
Thank you for your patience!
As far as I know its not necessarily a requirement anymore, but maybe someone will post more detailed info for you. My buddy Samsgun357 has been on about every build of these JB ROMs you can think of, and has never flash GB bootloader.
On the other hand, I've been flashing around in the JB world, and I flash GB bootloader long ago. It's pretty painless and you only need to do it once. After you have GB bootloader its backward compatible, and so far forward compatible.
It takes about 30 seconds to actually Odin flash and its over. As long as you follow the guide to the letter, and you have a solid connection with Odin, you'll be fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117990
There's a link to the correct thread, if you end up choosing to flash GB bootloader.
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As far as I know its not necessarily a requirement anymore, but maybe someone will post more detailed info for you. My buddy Samsgun357 has been on about every build of these JB ROMs you can think of, and has never flash GB bootloader.
On the other hand, I've been flashing around in the JB world, and I flash GB bootloader long ago. It's pretty painless and you only need to do it once. After you have GB bootloader its backward compatible, and so far forward compatible.
It takes about 30 seconds to actually Odin flash and its over. As long as you follow the guide to the letter, and you have a solid connection with Odin, you'll be fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117990
There's a link to the correct thread, if you end up choosing to flash GB bootloader.
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I appreciate all the help you have given me... I wish I could say I'm enjoying my new ROM, but something went wrong (probably I messed up) and now my phone is done. It won't get past the "Vibrant" screen, it won't boot into recovery and to make matters worse, the computer won't recognize the device. Now I have to read threads about bricked phones
Did you flash new bootloader? If you did, you may be unaware that the button combo for download mode, and recovery mode has changed.
Your phone is more than likely not "done".
Try pulling battery and micro SD and sim all out, and now depending on which bootloader you have, hold your button and pop battery in, and plug USB cable in. One fluid swift motion.
We'll get ya straightened out
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Did you flash new bootloader? If you did, you may be unaware that the button combo for download mode, and recovery mode has changed.
Your phone is more than likely not "done".
Try pulling battery and micro SD and sim all out, and now depending on which bootloader you have, hold your button and pop battery in, and plug USB cable in. One fluid swift motion.
We'll get ya straightened out
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I didn't flash a new bootloader.
I could get the phone on Download Mode. I opened Odin and loaded the pit & tar files in order to get to stock JFD. COM is on and after hitting Start the first cell says "set partition" but the progress bar is empty. Is not doing anything now but I don't know if its safe to unplug and do it again or try to open Recovery and restore my Nandroid backup instead
Please bear with me
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I didn't flash a new bootloader.
I could get the phone on Download Mode. I opened Odin and loaded the pit & tar files in order to get to stock JFD. COM is on and after hitting Start the first cell says "set partition" but the progress bar is empty. Is not doing anything now but I don't know if its safe to unplug and do it again or try to open Recovery and restore my Nandroid backup instead
Please bear with me
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Nevermind... I'm back to stock with Odin. I'll keep on trying until I get it
Thank you for your help!
Let me start off by saying I have been reading these forums for a couple days and I am just getting more confused.
Currently I have root, S-On, and no other mods or ROMs. I am getting the popup notification to update literally every time I turn on the screen. I can select defer and set a date about a week in the future from whatever day it is, but the popup comes back within the hour. A few times it even began downloading on its own (while on 4G as well, ~100 mb of data used up every time).
All I would like to do is somehow get my phone to be as if I were complete stock and accepted the OTA, keep root, and not have to wipe any data (or be able to restore a full nandroid). I am getting very frustrated with everything and once I think I understand it, someone throws out something new to me.
If anyone is willing to take some time to help me with this I would gladly make a donation, either to them or another party of their choosing
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Let me start off by saying I have been reading these forums for a couple days and I am just getting more confused.
Currently I have root, S-On, and no other mods or ROMs. I am getting the popup notification to update literally every time I turn on the screen. I can select defer and set a date about a week in the future from whatever day it is, but the popup comes back within the hour. A few times it even began downloading on its own (while on 4G as well, ~100 mb of data used up every time).
All I would like to do is somehow get my phone to be as if I were complete stock and accepted the OTA, keep root, and not have to wipe any data (or be able to restore a full nandroid). I am getting very frustrated with everything and once I think I understand it, someone throws out something new to me.
If anyone is willing to take some time to help me with this I would gladly make a donation, either to them or another party of their choosing
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You can simply flash a stock rom that has the update & flash the newer stock kernel that goes with it but you wont be able to update the radios. You wont lose any info this way unless something goes wrong.(always backup everything just in case something goes wrong).
As for backup, you will only be able to backup aps & data with titanium backup or some sort of program like that because If you do a nandroid backup and then restore after applying the update, you would be restoring your old rom basically over the new one and lose most update enhancements.
You should just follow the thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155069 and go S-Off. I know you will have to restore everything because you will wipe your phone when you do this but its only gonna make things easier for you in the future.
Do a nan backup and save it in case you want to use it in the future and go back to what you had. Once you have S-Off, you can flash kernals, radios, & roms and put in any version you want.
Thanks for your response Jrocker,
So it looks like the best way to do this would be to backup my apps with Titanium, get S-off, install a stock ROM with the update, flash the kernel and radio, then restore from Titanium.
Step 1. Make nandroid
Step 2. Backup apps with Titanium, copy backup along with pics and video to PC
Step 3. Get S-off
Step 4. Flash Stock ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149095
Step 5. While still in recovery, flash stock kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149951
Step 6. Flash stock radio http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155915
Step 7. Restore apps and pics.
Does that look correct? Do I have to worry about flashing a boot.img or modules(don't know what those are)?
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Thanks for your response Jrocker,
So it looks like the best way to do this would be to backup my apps with Titanium, get S-off, install a stock ROM with the update, flash the kernel and radio, then restore from Titanium.
Step 1. Make nandroid
Step 2. Backup apps with Titanium, copy backup along with pics and video to PC
Step 3. Get S-off
Step 4. Flash Stock ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149095
Step 5. While still in recovery, flash stock kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149951
Step 6. Flash stock radio http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155915
Step 7. Restore apps and pics.
Does that look correct? Do I have to worry about flashing a boot.img or modules(don't know what those are)?
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Have you unlocked the bootloader? (this step is usually done in connection with rooting the phone at the htcdev.com website). If you have an ulocked bootloader, then you can flash an alternate recovery (eithe cwr or twrp) and do a nandroid backup.
Then follow the steps to get s-off. Note: the step where you have your data wiped is unlocking the bootloader, not obtaining s-off. If you already have an alternate recovery, and root, then s-off generally will not wipe your phone. But do an nandroid backup in cwr or twrp just in case Although a nandroid won't backup pictures etc.
Once you have s-off, flash the stock (but rooted) rom you linked to in step 4. This step SHOULD flash the stock kernel if the .zip file was prepared properly. If you boot into the rom and have flickering or wifi issues, then you will need to flash the stock 2.04 kernel (in fastboot). You can also verify if the new kernel was installed when the rom is booted by looking at the Settings:About:Software Information:More (baseband, kernel etc). You should see there kernel version 3.4.10. The baseband (radio) should be 1.01.01.0110 once you have updated the radio (see the step below). The kernel file is the boot.img file you were asking about. The modules will already be built into the stock rom.
While in fastboot (not recovery) you can flash the updated radio files (that will make the baseband referred to above be 1.01.01.0110.
The time when you need to worry about flashing a kernel (boot.img) and modules is if you are s-on, or if you are s-off and the zip file was prepared as you were s-on. When you flash a "kernel", it consists of a boot.img file, along with some extraneous files (the module). When you are s-off, these can both be flashed together while in recovery. When you are s-on, the boot.img file must be flashed from fastboot (or else an alternate method using an app like Flash Image GUI). Because until recently, most DNA's were s-on, the kernel developers prepared their files for s-on devices, with instructions for s-on devices.
When you flash a rom that uses a different kernel than the one you are using, if the .zip file is prepared for a s-off device, then there are no additional steps necessary.
You may want to do a factory reset when you flash the updated 2.04 rom. I think it would be wise. As I said earlier, you shouldn't lose your /sdcard partition UNLESS you haven't already unlocked your bootloader. s-off doesn't reset your device.
Wow, all I can say is thank you so much! That was an awesome, detailed answer. It makes so much more sense when someone fully explains everything all at once, instead of me trying to piece everything together myself from various threads.
Yes my bootloader is unlocked. So you are saying once the bootloader is unlocked wiping data won't touch the SD card partition, just as if I had an actual SD card? When I rooted my Thunderbolt and did subsequent factory resets on that, it never touched the SD card. When I rooted my DNA it wiped everything. Either way I will always make backups and copy those to my PC.
I will be trying this later today and I will report back with the results. Seriously, thank you so much.
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Wow, all I can say is thank you so much! That was an awesome, detailed answer. It makes so much more sense when someone fully explains everything all at once, instead of me trying to piece everything together myself from various threads.
Yes my bootloader is unlocked. So you are saying once the bootloader is unlocked wiping data won't touch the SD card partition, just as if I had an actual SD card? When I rooted my Thunderbolt and did subsequent factory resets on that, it never touched the SD card. When I rooted my DNA it wiped everything. Either way I will always make backups and copy those to my PC.
I will be trying this later today and I will report back with the results. Seriously, thank you so much.
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I was looking for this exact solution as well. This was before we had s-off. For a while my solution was to freeze a couple apps in TB so the OTA pop up would stop popping up. I think it was HTC DM 1.0.2219251543..... and HtcDm 1.0.221982913.... Looks the same but they are different.
I like stock but I eventually flashed ViperDNA. It looks like stock but you are able to customize the $h!!t out of it. Its an awesome ROM that I highly recommend. Although you might want to wait until he comes out with 1.2 (the new version with the latest firmware) becuase you have to wipe data. Data wiping isn't a big deal if you use TB.
Ether way you go - Stock ROM or ViperDNA - The recommended way to wipe your device is this way:
(I'm using TWRP but CR should be similar, might be in different menus)
Backup everything using TB
Backup Pics and other docs on internal SD card (JUST IN CASE)
Make Nandroid Backup in Recovery
Wipe Menu-> Wipe Dalvik Cache (some like to wipe 3 times others think its just a waste of time)
Wipe Menu-> Wipe Cache (Factory Reset wipes cache but I like to wipe cache anyway just for completeness )
Wipe Menu-> Factory Reset
Wipe Menu-> System
Don't Format Data and Don't wipe Internal Storage. You will loose SD card contents.
Once you install your ROMS, flash your kernals, flash radios...whatever you want to do...You can restore apps and data from TB
As always, follow the ROMS instructions on their page for more information.
Only Restore User Apps and Data
Never restore any system apps in RED. May not be compatible with new ROM
You can however restore system Data that is in Yellow or Green (DATA ONLY)
Thanks devilsaces
Once I get everything updated and get a good nadroid of the newest firmware with all my apps I will definitely give ViperDNA a shot. I tried a few custom ROMs on my Thunderbolt, and while they were great to customize, they weren't always stable. Like I said I use my phone for work all day so I really need something dependable, and so far stock hasn't let me down.
Thanks again everyone, a lot of great info in this thread. Hopefully this will be useful to others as well.
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Thanks devilsaces
Once I get everything updated and get a good nadroid of the newest firmware with all my apps I will definitely give ViperDNA a shot. I tried a few custom ROMs on my Thunderbolt, and while they were great to customize, they weren't always stable. Like I said I use my phone for work all day so I really need something dependable, and so far stock hasn't let me down.
Thanks again everyone, a lot of great info in this thread. Hopefully this will be useful to others as well.
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Yeah, I had the same problem on the Thunderbolt, nothing stable. Viper however feels great. I would definitely freeze the HTC apps in Titanium Backup to get rid of the annoying pop ups. I noticed Viper has them uninstalled.
About to start, few more questions. The stock ROM I linked to (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149095) says it doesn't have the new firmware, is that different from kernel or anything else? Do I need to flash that as well?
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About to start, few more questions. The stock ROM I linked to (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149095) says it doesn't have the new firmware, is that different from kernel or anything else? Do I need to flash that as well?
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I'm actually running that rom right now.
You don't need to flash the radio if you don't want. If you are happy with your cell reception, and battery life, as well as wifi, then you can stay on the original radio.
Or if you'd like to try the new radio, you can flash that (once you have s-off) with this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38197525
I'm not sure if there is a radio flash prepared to go back to the original radio. Generally speaking, once to are s-off, you can change radios at will.
From what I understand, if you flash the rom you linked to, and the radio above, then you will have everything from the update, except the updated hboot. I haven't bothered changing my hboot. changing hboot won't affect the day to day operation of the phone, but it can change the fast boot commands that are available. Until I see a good reason, I am not going to worry about my hboot.
FYI: about changing radios, from what I understand, the radio file is the code that tells the phone how to communicate with the towers. It tells the phone how to adjust the power output of the radio according to the strength of signal from the cell. This can be very aggressive, leading to better signal, at the expense of battery life (increasing power output of the phone radio takes more power from the battery), or it can be conservative, with a little lower quality signal, but conserving battery life.
It seems that the engineers at the carriers are constantly tweaking the radio code to find a sweet spot between signal quality and battery life. Different carriers may tweak the radio for the same phone with a different priority. Sprint may prioritize signal, while verizon prioritizes battery. So each carrier may have a different radio file for phone that is in the same phone family. And then each carrier may have multiple radios. On the thunderbolt there were about 6 or 7 I think, but it is generally believed that newer radios work better than older ones.
Some people on xda will often experiment to see which radio file works best for them, depending on where they live and work.
I always try to be careful to only flash redid that others have reported to work with my device, rather than experimenting personally. I would think that you can brick your phone flashing the wrong radio file.
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Is that ROM deodexed? Or would I be better off using this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2080200
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About to start, few more questions. The stock ROM I linked to (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149095) says it doesn't have the new firmware, is that different from kernel or anything else? Do I need to flash that as well?
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Firmware is the Android system. The Droid DNA is on on 4.1.1 (Jelly Bean). That version has not changed in the new OTA update so I don't know why that ROM even mentioned it.
The Kernal is the interface that alows the software to access the hardware. A more detailed explanation can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=ROM-VS-Kernel
HBOOT is 'kinda' like your BIOS in windows. It is the bootloader. It is the first thing that is loaded on your phone. This too I believe has not changed with the latest OTA update.
This is the change log for the 2.04.605.2 710RD update
Bluetooth connectivity and volume level for specific models have been improved
Enhanced reliability and stability of the Contacts List have been made
Enhanced Recent Apps functionality has been improved
Incoming messages display with the correct timestamp
Improvements to Hotspot connectivity have been made
Improvements to Audio Quality for wired headsets and earpieces have been made
Improvements to default browser for zooming capability have been made
User can load videos on HuluPlus
Wi-Fi Connectivity has been improved
As you can see it is mostly stuff related to your radio so the radio is the main part you would want. I personally just updated my radio and din't worry about anything else.
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Is that ROM deodexed? Or would I be better off using this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2080200
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I don't think it is deodexed otherwise it would tell you. I think deodexed is good if you want to theme.
I'm using the first one, which isn't deodexed. But I'm keeping my rom close to stock this week
Next week, when the Viper rom has been updated to 2.04, I'll be flashing that, and probably a theme.
You indicated that you aren't currently running any mods or themes. Unless you are looking to change, I would suggest you flash the first rom you linked, which is stock, except for the root capability being added to it.
The de-odexed rom you asked about will have been modified, deleting the .odex files so that the rom can further be customized by themes etc. When a phone boots a rom that is missing the .odex files, it will take longer to boot because it will essentially create the missing .odex files on the fly while booting. But when you are modding your rom, adding themes etc., existing .odex files get in the way, so that is why developers remove the .odex files, even though the rom will take longer to boot. Once the phone is booted, whether the rom was odexed or not becomes irrelevant.
For now, if you are looking to be on the latest radio and HTC rom, I suggest you get s-off, then flash the basic 2.04 rom (the one you linked to first), and the updated radios. Hopefully HTC will soon release the updated source files for the 2.04 kernel, and then we will have more customization.
If you are looking to customize now, I would get s-off, then flash the updated radios, but stay with a rom based on the original released rom and source (like Viper). The latest Viper rom (with updates to 1.1.3) has modifications so that you won't have to worry about getting bugged to update your ROM for 2.04. If you decided to go with Viper, it is a little confusing when viper is updating from 1.1 to 1.1.1 to 1.1.2 to 1.1.3, because it uses an over-the-air (OTA) update process similar to the stock OTA update. So you may see notices for updates - but the updates would be for Viper. Once you have gotten your phone s-off, you don't need to worry about updates causing problems.
Spaded21 said:
Is that ROM deodexed? Or would I be better off using this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2080200
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Ok so I have done everything, S-off, deodexed stock ROM, 3.4.10 kernel (it flashed with the ROM), and updated radio. I'm able to boot up but I don't have wifi.
Edit: Flashed the boot.img from the zip and it's working now.
Spaded21 said:
Ok so I have done everything, S-off, deodexed stock ROM, 3.4.10 kernel (it flashed with the ROM), and updated radio. I'm able to boot up but I don't have wifi.
Edit: Flashed the boot.img from the zip and it's working now.
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Congrats!
I think that rom you used wasn't set up properly to flash the boot.img from recovery, so that is why you had to do it manually. As time goes on (and there are more users with s-off), I think most new roms will be set up properly, so you shouldn't run into that again.
The whole process wasn't that hard, and using TiB made it really easy to get everything back.
So how do I go about removing bloatware now that I have S-Off and I am deodexed?
Although there are several ways to start removing bloatware, one of the easiest ways is to go into TiBu, and freeze apps. Make a nandroid backup first, and start slow.
Some apps have dependencies, you freeze one, and another might not work, like contacts and dialer.
After you have frozen an app, and are confident that it isn't necessary, you can delete it if you want.
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Spaded21 said:
Let me start off by saying I have been reading these forums for a couple days and I am just getting more confused.
Currently I have root, S-On, and no other mods or ROMs. I am getting the popup notification to update literally every time I turn on the screen. I can select defer and set a date about a week in the future from whatever day it is, but the popup comes back within the hour. A few times it even began downloading on its own (while on 4G as well, ~100 mb of data used up every time).
All I would like to do is somehow get my phone to be as if I were complete stock and accepted the OTA, keep root, and not have to wipe any data (or be able to restore a full nandroid). I am getting very frustrated with everything and once I think I understand it, someone throws out something new to me.
If anyone is willing to take some time to help me with this I would gladly make a donation, either to them or another party of their choosing
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I would highly recommend using the OTA blocking zip to kill the update messages. I'm not very handy with posting zips yet but search the threads for the disable OTA. I am on the Viper DNA rom also but I put the OTA blocking on just in case. If I were on my PC instead of my phone I could have posted the zip file for you. I'm sure with each rom the developer has added a file to make sure the OTA is killed but you can never be too sure.
Easiest way to get 2.04 OTA for rooted DNA phones
Hat-tip .Torrented from our discussion here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2152993&page=12
Get Facepalm S-Off: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155069
Download stock recovery from: http://goo.im/devs/Flyhalf205/DNA/dlx_recovery_signed.img
Flash the stock recovery using:
fastboot flash recovery dlx_recovery_signed.img
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Once you are on stock recovery, and assuming you're on stock kernel, it allows you to take the OTA update!
After you take the ota just flash the custom recovery of your choice again. CWM Touch is a good option: http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
Flash the superuser-busybox.zip to root.
This gives you a completely clean "factory" upgrade to 2.04, without losing any of your data (YMMV - so pls always take a backup before you do this).
It worked for me - yippee!!!
Software number: 2.04.605.2 710RD
Kernel version: 3.4.10-ga02d2c6
Baseband version: 1.01.01.0110
Whole procedure took less than 15 minutes
zanyguy said:
Hat-tip .Torrented from our discussion here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2152993&page=12
Get Facepalm S-Off: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155069
Download stock recovery from: http://goo.im/devs/Flyhalf205/DNA/dlx_recovery_signed.img
Flash the stock recovery using:
Once you are on stock recovery, and assuming you're on stock kernel, it allows you to take the OTA update!
After you take the ota just flash the custom recovery of your choice again. CWM Touch is a good option: http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
Flash the superuser-busybox.zip to root.
This gives you a completely clean "factory" up to 2.04, without losing any of your data (YMMV - so pls always take a backup before you do this).
It worked for me - yippee!!!
Software number: 2.04.605.2 710RD
Kernel version: 3.4.10-ga02d2c6
Baseband version: 1.01.01.0110
Whole procedure took less than 15 minutes
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Thanks zanyguy for the procedure and process outline. I have a question regarding my current format and was wondering if going to a stock rooted version would work for me. Since every end user is different then there are different things they want of course. For me the process is very simple. I like a very lean system. I also like to try and achieve many things to look as close to AOSP as I can get and keep functionality. My current setup has the phone unlocked, rooted, s-off and running Viper 1.1.3. My radio is the OTA update radio of 1.01.01.0110 and my kernel is the same 3.4.10-ga02d2c6. What I wonder is this. Should I even bother trying to flash the stock Rom? Is there any benefits to doing so? And if I do give it a spin should I just restore the Viper DNA rom or re flash anew?
Thanks