Just noticed that my S3 is using 2-3 times more memory for many processes/services as reported by system panel when compared to my Nexus 7. I wondered why the N7 used so little memory.... It's not that the N7 uses little memory, its the S3 using soooo much. I did notice ages ago that the S3 was using more memory for the same processes when compared to my galaxy s1.
Anyone got an explanation?
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Just noticed that my S3 is using 2-3 times more memory for many processes/services as reported by system panel when compared to my Nexus 7. I wondered why the N7 used so little memory.... It's not that the N7 uses little memory, its the S3 using soooo much. I did notice ages ago that the S3 was using more memory for the same processes when compared to my galaxy s1.
Anyone got an explanation?
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Compare stock ROM sizes. SGS3 uses much more features and processes (although most of it is bloatware...). I suggest you try to "debloat" your ROM.
gsw5700 said:
Just noticed that my S3 is using 2-3 times more memory for many processes/services as reported by system panel when compared to my Nexus 7. I wondered why the N7 used so little memory.... It's not that the N7 uses little memory, its the S3 using soooo much. I did notice ages ago that the S3 was using more memory for the same processes when compared to my galaxy s1.
Anyone got an explanation?
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that could be because of the built-in apps or the apps working in the background or because that nexus 7 has a bigger battery then it gets low for longer time...that's what i guess could be the reason why
You misunderstand, I'm looking at single processes such as android weather, maps service, gmail, apex launcher. The size of memory is much bigger on the s3 when running the same app/service etc
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You misunderstand, I'm looking at single processes such as android weather, maps service, gmail, apex launcher. The size of memory is much bigger on the s3 when running the same app/service etc
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oh i c, i got u now, then idk why is that so, but if that is true then im proud a lot of my SGSIII
Any dev explanations?
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is your ROM deodexed? this may be why
It's because of touchwiz, which is very inefficient, and the fact that you are using a phone that is actively connected to a network.
Nexus 7 is a pure android experience, no bloat will be wasting the ram.
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kofiaa said:
It's because of touchwiz, which is very inefficient, and the fact that you are using a phone that is actively connected to a network.
Nexus 7 is a pure android experience, no bloat will be wasting the ram.
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again, read what he means. He means the RAM usage of single processes, not the whole usage
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again, read what he means. He means the RAM usage of single processes, not the whole usage
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I understood what he wrote. The thing is he's trying to compare a pure android device, to a phone that is running the touchwiz interface over android.
Different processors, different hardware, all these factors need to be take into account. I doubt he will get another phone to match the nexus 7 ram usage unless.
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But why should GMaps in TW use more RAM than Nexus's GMaps?
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But why should GMaps in TW use more RAM than Nexus's GMaps?
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Tw is magic
But honestly I don't know why, I'll check some other android phones to find out why.
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I'm running apex on n7 and s3 not TW but that's irrelevant. Why does the same apk/service running on JB consume so much more memory on s3? Guess I need to look at the process memory map
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Hey guys. I am a bit worried. The phone seems to be running fine but my RAM is constantly bellow 250 MB... I am killing everything possible and constantly using advanced task killer but still. I even saw a point where I had 90mb ram left... sometimes I can see that temple run also runs choppy. I find this extremely strange ... any help would be appreciated ...
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damn dude just use the search button!!! there are a lot of same posts!
Stop using f*ckin advanced task killer.
It hasn't been needed since 2.1.
It does more harm than good.
250mb free ram is fine, touchwiz likes ram, deal with it.
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Stop using f*ckin advanced task killer.
It hasn't been needed since 2.1.
It does more harm than good.
250mb free ram is fine, touchwiz likes ram, deal with it.
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Hey guys. I am a bit worried. The phone seems to be running fine but my RAM is constantly bellow 250 MB... I am killing everything possible and constantly using advanced task killer but still. I even saw a point where I had 90mb ram left... sometimes I can see that temple run also runs choppy. I find this extremely strange ... any help would be appreciated ...
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Have you tried de-bloating your phone? It would also be good to disable application that auto-starts.
Hey. You don't have to worry about the available RAM being low. Android manages RAM usage differently than most other Operating Systems like OSX and Windows. Essentially, having RAM used up in Android is good because it caches apps in the background which allows you to have fluid multitasking.
If you are worried about performance then the best thing to do would be to install an app called Watchdog. This app will monitor the CPU usage of apps. These truly affect the performance of the phone. In general though don't worry about the RAM. And whatever you do, don't use a Task Killer for RAM purposes. This can be damaging because it can corrupt files and processes and inevitably cause more harm than good.
Hope that helps
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Yep, 3rd party memory management sw use more power than they save so uninstall it at your earliest convenience please As you know ICS handles memory beautifuly. IT clears memory as needed so don't waste your time on memory-peeping and enjoy your phone
Thanks for the fast reply guys . I just removed the task manager . Did not know that it actually does more harm than help. How can I stop applications from autorstarting? Also I can't remove the bloatware unless a root the phone which at this point I am not that interested in doing ...
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Thanks for the fast reply guys . I just removed the task manager . Did not know that it actually does more harm than help. How can I stop applications from autorstarting? Also I can't remove the bloatware unless a root the phone which at this point I am not that interested in doing ...
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You cannot stop apps from autostarting without root.
You do not need root to remove bloatware.
Go to settings and apps, and then click on what you don't want and disable it.
how about this, this is really worst, i don,t have much bloatware running, still ram is very low
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there are threads with options for this.
ROOTED anyway.
edit your build prop, change the delvik heap size to 128....freed up ram for me, though i honestly dont need it. i only have around 100mgb of free ram and my phone still multie tasks like a champ.
but there are options.
The story about ram management being different on android or linux is a common explanation used with regard to why ram consumption is not something to be worried about, but it is not entirely true. The truth is, ram and cpu speed work hand in hand. If your ram is full, then the cpu has to constantly open and close background processes, and this will slow the phone down if the cpu is slow. For example, on the Galaxy S, the phone starts to lag when ram falls below 100mb. However, there is no such problem on the Galaxy S3. This is due to the quad core cpu which is able to open and close processes fast enough that there is no noticeable lag. With that said, ram consumption is nothing to be worried about on multi-core phones, despite the fact that it was a problem on older single core phones. The only way the ram on the Galaxy S3 would be limited enough to cause problems is if a single app or process requires more than the 780mb available, which is extremely unlikely.
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The story about ram management being different on android or linux is a common explanation used with regard to why ram consumption is not something to be worried about, but it is not entirely true. The truth is, ram and cpu speed work hand in hand. If your ram is full, then the cpu has to constantly open and close background processes, and this will slow the phone down if the cpu is slow. For example, on the Galaxy S, the phone starts to lag when ram falls below 100mb. However, there is no such problem on the Galaxy S3. This is due to the quad core cpu which is able to open and close processes fast enough that there is no noticeable lag. With that said, ram consumption is nothing to be worried about on multi-core phones, despite the fact that it was a problem on older single core phones. The only way the ram on the Galaxy S3 would be limited enough to cause problems is if a single app or process requires more than the 780mb available, which is extremely unlikely.
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This is assuming that what the cpu is processing is not in RAM, which is the point of it anyway
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I also think that RAM is not the issue, although I just read that Samsung is planning to increase RAM to 2GB even for the European Models because of Jelly Bean consuming more RAM than expected...
T.
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I also think that RAM is not the issue, although I just read that Samsung is planning to increase RAM to 2GB even for the European Models because of Jelly Bean consuming more RAM than expected...
T.
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That is false. The US versions have 2GB of RAM because of their processor using more RAM. Jellybean runs just fine on the Galaxy nexus with 1GB of RAM and only a dual core processor.
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I also think that RAM is not the issue, although I just read that Samsung is planning to increase RAM to 2GB even for the European Models because of Jelly Bean consuming more RAM than expected...
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That's bull****.
People need to stop spreading this retarded rumour from the verge.
Your version of the story is after taking on new facts as well, this is like Chinese whispers.
The nexus s is getting it, the nexus s has 512mb of ram of which 360mb is usable.
End. Of. Story.
I have JB on my gnex and its using 300mb ram with 400 free and I have loads of apps open.
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That's bull****.
People need to stop spreading this retarded rumour from the verge.
Your version of the story is after taking on new facts as well, this is like Chinese whispers.
The nexus s is getting it, the nexus s has 512mb of ram of which 360mb is usable.
End. Of. Story.
I have JB on my gnex and its using 300mb ram with 400 free and I have loads of apps open.
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The nexus s is also single core.
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The nexus s is also single core.
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Exactly!
JB will be absolutely fine on the S3.
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Unused ram is wasted ram
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Unused ram is wasted ram
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This.:good:
I see many people on xda posting ridiculous methods of freeing up Ram and frying the phone
I was once one of them, but its too much nuisance to tolerate when its again and again repeated, I found this very cool thread for noobs:
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Hi,
LOL...
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Re,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904023
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
And there are a bunch of others like these...
This is the placebo effect, you see more free RAM (oooh a high number !!!) and you think it is better so you feel it's better.
Sometimes higher is not better...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812620
But... wait... Another thread about memory management... ouch, do you think that the noobs will read it or use it?
In before lock.
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In before lock.
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Absolutely pointless post. ^^
Interesting article. Thanks op.
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Thanks for post. Many users don't know this
I'm waiting for someone to come in to this thread and try to tell us why you need 50 gigs of Ram and how his US variant with 2 gigs of RAM is far superior to the international, I own both so before this even comes to light lets be clear,clean,cut and dry the international version is smoother than the US variant no matter how many of you RAM fanatics want to tell me that 2 gigs is master race. Further Android manages RAM very well on it's own you can probably run just about anything with 512mb of RAM, but a whole gigabyte that's just butter on my toast. I hope people will actually read this thread and learn how their devices work instead of just yelling about how they need more RAM and wonder why they have no battery life when a task manager constantly clears the cache. I would appreciate it if one of the more informed members of XDA can make a simple write up of how Android manages RAM and why more free RAM is not always better :highfive:
Whilst I agree with the comments here it sometimes helps by not being rude to people who aren't as knowledgeable with android as some of us and who are asking questions like I have seen in some threads.
Whilst the adage free RAM is wasted RAM is generally correct with android there is no harm in freezing of uninstalling apps that you know you don't use.
For example I never use svoice and chat-on so there is no harm in freezing those or preventing them from loading if they will never be used.
Whilst unused RAM IS wasted RAM,,, RAM used by unused apps is also wasted ram
Go easy on the noobs and have a good weekend.
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Whilst I agree with the comments here it sometimes helps by not being rude to people who aren't as knowledgeable with android as some of us and who are asking questions like I have seen in some threads.
Whilst the adage free RAM is wasted RAM is generally correct with android there is no harm in freezing of uninstalling apps that you know you don't use.
For example I never use svoice and chat-on so there is no harm in freezing those or preventing them from loading if they will never be used.
Whilst unused RAM IS wasted RAM,,, RAM used by unused apps is also wasted ram
Go easy on the noobs and have a good weekend.
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While I do agree with this post no one here was implying that you shouldn't uninstall or Freeze bloatware, best wishes.
Ram, that's made by Dodge right?
I was cursing sammy for not providing 2 gigs in s3 (int)but now it seems fine. But since ram is cheaper what in the world would had hapnd if sammy had provided 2 gigs.
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imranb_001 said:
I was cursing sammy for not providing 2 gigs in s3 (int)but now it seems fine. But since ram is cheaper what in the world would had hapnd if sammy had provided 2 gigs.
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If I'm not mistaken the architecture of the version supporting HSPA does not support 2gb, that's why the Korean variant is slightly different and has 2 gigs of RAM, essentially It wouldn't have made any difference, the 32nm a9 process is about as far as it's going to go. (also I think the Korean version has 2 gigs of Ram due to LTE taking up more resources)
op, maybe it is not the issue of free-ing up RAM.. it also save up some battery...
eg: before you went to slp... make sure all are shut down.. and hv a minimal prog open for sync/phone..
of course now all OS have RAM optimism, but then sometime/some of the OS are not so profession on this.
most of the time due to the OS rooted/JB, which will have different methodology for optimizing the RAM.
Well, you can't deny the fact that more ram equals better multitasking. With less than 200mb of free ram after several days of use, my browser has to reload whenever I minimise it to check messages. But that wouldn't be the case if I had more free ram, ie when I've just rebooted the phone.
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Hi,
LOL...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812620
But... wait... Another thread about memory management... ouch, do you think that the noobs will read it or use it?
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I hope they do
If 2gb is not necessary on a phone, then explain having a quad core phone?
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quattro_rs said:
If 2gb is not necessary on a phone, then explain having a quad core phone?
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Apparently, you've never met the Joneses and don't know how hard it is to keep up with them, let alone surpass them...
quattro_rs said:
If 2gb is not necessary on a phone, then explain having a quad core phone?
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Will your car also have more performance when you go to the gas station and fill it at max rather than half? Thats what this thread is about
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If more RAM doesn't matter, then why do I get booted out of Tintin and other heavy gameloft games whilst having had to run other program before the games were started? The only way to play without the game crashing is first be clearing cache. Would it be low RAM, Samsung's fault(no good optimizations), or gameloft's fault(no good optimizations)?
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If more RAM doesn't matter, then why do I get booted out of Tintin and other heavy gameloft games whilst having had to run other program before the games were started? The only way to play without the game crashing is first be clearing cache. Would it be low RAM, Samsung's fault(no good optimizations), or gameloft's fault(no good optimizations)?
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I would say both in my experience games from gameloft are always having poor support for samsung devices, and many other also
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I'm just saying having more ram would make the gs3 more future proof especially when games and apps get bigger and better and more resource hungry, plus ram is cheap and it wouldn't hurt adding 1 more gb......
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Okay so I have five days uptime but have noticed this since two days uptime. I dont ever restart my phone because im an uptime junkie. But when I use stock task killer and remove everything from the list im still using 1gb which doesnt help me at all. Any thoughts? I know if I reboot itll be fine but I dont want to.
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Okay so I have five days uptime but have noticed this since two days uptime. I dont ever restart my phone because im an uptime junkie. But when I use stock task killer and remove everything from the list im still using 1gb which doesnt help me at all. Any thoughts? I know if I reboot itll be fine but I dont want to.
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also forgot to mention stock unrooted locked, etc, just high ram hog. sometimes randomly when i end all tasks i can get it to go down to like 600-800mb usage. but lately no matter how many times you end it, its at like 1gb, and it sucks because phones 1.75gb ram, and when i open a few things it starts to get really slow because theres not much free to play with.
what does it matter? you have 1.75gb available and your using 1.11 so it leave you with 640mb free... No matter if there is 1gb free or 640mb you wont be able to tell the difference performance wise since you have more than enough ram to cover it. If you want about bunch of extra ram just laying around not being used then try a aosp rom, but you will lose all the fancy touchwiz features.
I use fast reboot. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greatbytes.fastreboot it works pretty good for me
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Okay so I have five days uptime but have noticed this since two days uptime. I dont ever restart my phone because im an uptime junkie. But when I use stock task killer and remove everything from the list im still using 1gb which doesnt help me at all. Any thoughts? I know if I reboot itll be fine but I dont want to.
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Touchwiz is a pig.
That app doesn't do anything for me. Stock killer works the same. Kill and 1gb in use
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As I said before, Touchwiz is a pig. You can clear ram in task manager all day long and literally watch the usage climb as it restarts services and apps you killed (and shouldn't have).
Touchwiz is a bigger pig than even Sense. We literally have 1gb less of internal storage than the Droid DNA, and they have the same amount of carrier crapware.
You have 2gb of ram, so I don't see the issue. Unused ram is wasted ram. You clearly aren't running out of ram, so what does it matter? The same amount of electricity powers unused ram as used.
I say this because I notice when using snote with spen its really laggy sometimes because I have like no ram available and gotta kill apps.
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I say this because I notice when using snote with spen its really laggy sometimes because I have like no ram available and gotta kill apps.
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The thing is, according to the task mangler you aren't out of ram, per this thread.
My ram usage at any given time is close to 1.3gb and higher. I have no lagginess in the s-pen. So if you are sitting at 1gb free and having issues with the s-pen, I'd look elsewhere to your problem.
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The thing is, according to the task mangler you aren't out of ram, per this thread.
My ram usage at any given time is close to 1.3gb and higher. I have no lagginess in the s-pen. So if you are sitting at 1gb free and having issues with the s-pen, I'd look elsewhere to your problem.
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your use is that high because the rom itself is, same as on a computer. wanna lessen it rom the phone, ive never seen my phone lag.
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your use is that high because the rom itself is, same as on a computer. wanna lessen it rom the phone, ive never seen my phone lag.
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I never said I saw phone lag???
So I'm coming from a Samsung Infuse, and honestly, this phone cannot piss me off even more than I already am. I'm talking about constant resets (stuck power button), terrible GPS reception, UNBEARABLE LAG even with the latest paranoid android, and finally, messed up APN settings which bares the phone useless since I can't have any service on it! So now you understand of my struggles with my current phone. I'm in search for something that I can rely on and won't have even the slightest bit of lag after 2+ years of owning it.
Now, I've been doing some research on some phones (gs3, htc one x, htc one, gs4) And I come here to find out your honest opinion on the GS3 since the time you've owned it. Should I save some cash buying a GS3 or a One X, or are there some sort of problems with these phones that have ticked you off that I should consider paying the extra buck and looking at the 2013 flagships instead?
I would suggest the SIV over the SIII..
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I would suggest the SIV over the SIII..
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The S4 might will not have CM support in anytime soon...
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OP, if I were you, I'd wait until the S4. Not because the S4 is a good phone, we don't really know. But because I'd like to know if the S3 sources are to be released. Otherwise, stay away from exynos.
You'll thank me later.
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The S4 might will not have CM support in anytime soon...
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Neither will the SIII have stable CM..
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If you really want an S3, what about the I9305? 2G RAM! If you can afford a G4 go for that instead, if cash is tight perhaps a second hand G3. Should be a few out there soon cheap, when people have upgraded.
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Sv: Should I get a Galaxy S III??
If you can get the S3 for a gooood price, get it and install SlimBean no lag at all stable as rock. Faster then a n4
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I'd recommended waiting for the S4. The S3 is a great phone but at least you'll be future-proof with the Galaxy S4 (in terms of updates, camera, display, and RAM). That's quite a lot of things!
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Buy yourself a Nexus 4 and enjoy aosp in its best form! ^^
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Buy yourself a Nexus 4 and enjoy aosp in its best form! ^^
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I agree with you Nexus is always the best option.....in terms of performance as well as design and latest updates but only drawback 16gig mem
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I agree with you Nexus is always the best option.....in terms of performance as well as design and latest updates but only drawback 16gig mem
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Yeah it's a drawback, one I would find myself very hard to live with, but I would make compromises. I love that my S3 is capable of reading sdcards but I would easily give up that for something that runs lovely aosp as awesomely as the Nexus
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Yeah it's a drawback, one I would find myself very hard to live with, but I would make compromises. I love that my S3 is capable of reading sdcards but I would easily give up that for something that runs lovely aosp as awesomely as the Nexus
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I would be probably on Nexus 4 already if it supports USB OTG to mount external drives.
S3 have bad multitasking management, huge delay when you open dialer, mms and galery app.
I have spent lot of hours to fix these issues thanks to xda devs. It is a good phone (huge battery removable, good screen, ext sd card, powerfull) with a bad programmation.
I advise you a nexus one or a htc.
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S3 have bad multitasking management, huge delay when you open dialer, mms and galery app.
I have spent lot of hours to fix these issues thanks to xda devs. It is a good phone (huge battery removable, good screen, ext sd card, powerfull) with a bad programmation.
I advise you a nexus one or a htc.
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I knew the s3 software was bad, but it's worst than a nexus one
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All i'm saying is to get a phone with 2Gb of ram. S4 or even the S3 with 4G is fine. The N4 is subject to different considerations (do you want an sdcard, etc) but it's a powerhouse too.
While the S3 nearly doesn't lag at all, not having multitask isn't fun and you'll definitly have a better experience if your apps aren't closing all the time due to lack of memory. This annoys me to no end and i'm replacing it whenever an oportunity arrises.
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I advise you a nexus one or a htc.
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I am glad that I wasn't the only person to see that about the N1.
Moved to Q&A
Yes you should
Fredo13127 said:
S3 have bad multitasking management, huge delay when you open dialer, mms and galery app.
I have spent lot of hours to fix these issues thanks to xda devs. It is a good phone (huge battery removable, good screen, ext sd card, powerfull) with a bad programmation.
I advise you a nexus one or a htc.
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U mean HTC ONE OR NEXUS :what::what::what:
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Well syay away from s3. I am selling my s3. And going for optimus g. My s3 is not having any issues but reading/listening to others issues with their s3 like sudden death I am getting possed off. Lol.
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Hi guys;
I don't like Themer for 2 request.
1. I don't is economic for the battery.
2. I use many ram.
Sorry for my English,but I'm not English :/
It doesn't use THAT much ram! Your phone must be old or cheap if that's an issue.
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version support for 2.3+ plz
It required 4.1+.
But my phone is still at 2.3+.
The stable version for my phone is 2.3.6.
So sad for this :crying:
pandacookie said:
It doesn't use THAT much ram! Your phone must be old or cheap if that's an issue.
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I would consider 60+ MB of ram quite a lot. It actually slows down my phone using Appsi together.
SGSIIIUser said:
I would consider 60+ MB of ram quite a lot. It actually slows down my phone using Appsi together.
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The newer phones have a gig or two, though. 60mb? You sure you don't mean 600mb? Because 60mb really isn't much at all.
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SGSIIIUser said:
I would consider 60+ MB of ram quite a lot. It actually slows down my phone using Appsi together.
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That's not a lot.
The way I have my phone set to look as it dose =
themer 69mb ram used
Uccw 35mb ram used
Widget locker 5.6mb ram used
And my phone still is fast and smooth.
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I haven't been using my phone much over the past few days because I have been at home, but my phone has been dying in the early afternoon. Massive increase in power use since installing themer. I'm using a DHD (ace) which is pretty old and hacked together so it may not be themers fault. But definitely has me thinking about going back to Nova until i get my new phone (Nexus 5 come out already!)
pandacookie said:
It doesn't use THAT much ram! Your phone must be old or cheap if that's an issue.
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Well it does use a huge amount of RAM (depending on selected theme). I have seen 250+MB usage for most of my favorite themes.
uchihas said:
Well it does use a huge amount of RAM (depending on selected theme). I have seen 250+MB usage for most of my favorite themes.
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For some phones, that is a lot of RAM. Not for phones like the HTC One or Galaxy S4.
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pandacookie said:
For some phones, that is a lot of RAM. Not for phones like the HTC One or Galaxy S4.
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Yeah, I know, but it should try to aim as much devices as possible, and the most usual configuration right now is 1GB RAM (as low/mid-range devices are the vast majority of devices out there). A launcher is not an app to be aimed for high-end devices as themer is just a compilation of widgets/icons & wallpapers, and there are not so many to have that usage, as for example Action Launcher takes about 100MB RAM having 4 widgets on screen with much more information than for example the text or image widgets of Themer.
uchihas said:
Yeah, I know, but it should try to aim as much devices as possible, and the most usual configuration right now is 1GB RAM (as low/mid-range devices are the vast majority of devices out there). A launcher is not an app to be aimed for high-end devices as themer is just a compilation of widgets/icons & wallpapers, and there are not so many to have that usage, as for example Action Launcher takes about 100MB RAM having 4 widgets on screen with much more information than for example the text or image widgets of Themer.
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But even for a device with a gig of ram, 250mb is just 25% of the ram used. The other 75% is for whatever. It's still not enough to significantly slow down a phone. What the heck are you doing with 75% of ram?
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But even for a device with a gig of ram, 250mb is just 25% of the ram used. The other 75% is for whatever. It's still not enough to significantly slow down a phone. What the heck are you doing with 75% of ram?
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Well, Android is a resource-hungry OS, and some apps do get a good amount of RAM too, I usually have about 200-300MB free, using Action Launcher, but as soon as I get Themer, RAM goes low like hell ( < 50MB). You know, system optimization makes a lot, and system-apps too. With a clean phone mine has about 400MB used.
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Well, Android is a resource-hungry OS, and some apps do get a good amount of RAM too, I usually have about 200-300MB free, using Action Launcher, but as soon as I get Themer, RAM goes low like hell ( < 50MB). You know, system optimization makes a lot, and system-apps too. With a clean phone mine has about 400MB used.
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Okay.
What phone do you use, if you don't mind me asking?
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pandacookie said:
Okay.
What phone do you use, if you don't mind me asking?
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Mlais MX58 Pro, mt6589 quad core 1.5ghz with android 4.2.1, 1gb ram. ROM is almost AOSP.
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Mlais MX58 Pro, mt6589 quad core 1.5ghz with android 4.2.1, 1gb ram. ROM is almost AOSP.
Enviado desde mi Mlais MX58 Pro
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Not bad specs-wise. I've never heard of that brand, though. What carrier is that on?
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Not bad specs-wise. I've never heard of that brand, though. What carrier is that on?
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It is a chinese phone, it is not on any carrier (as most chinese phones with MTK hardware).
uchihas said:
It is a chinese phone, it is not on any carrier (as most chinese phones with MTK hardware).
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Ahhhh okay. Cool.
Perhaps MyColorScreen could do some tinkering with Themer to work better with mid-range phones. I've kind of forgotten what mid-range phones are like. I haven't had one in almost two years.
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I have a galaxy SII and no slowing down here
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try battery widget
I dong get what all the fuss is about if you don't like it uninstall.
I have no issues with it nor does my phone
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