So, I flashed the official and stable CM 9.1.0 on my girlfriend's Xperia mini. Everything works perfectly and smoothly. The only problem is that background data don't work as expected. They are activated, Wifi is set to always on during standby. Here is what happens (Wifi ON): When the screen is off, the device seems to partly deactivate background data (?). It receives emails/WhatsApp messages on an irregular basis, instead of being connected all the time. At least that's how it seems. I checked for it the following way: I sent messages with my phone and then checked how long it takes the mini to receive the message. It took between 2 and 14 minutes, most of the time around 4-6 minutes. So it seems like it either has connectivity issues or issues with the background data. But that is only with the screen off. When the screen is on, none of that seems to happen. I don't know if that happens with 3G as well, yet, as I didn't have the chance to grab the phone to do more testing.
Does anyone have a hint what the reason for this might be? I can do more testing in the next days but as it is not my phone I don't know when this will be (probably Friday).
Edit: I forgot to mention that this was not the case with the official Sony 4.0.4 ROM that was on the phone before.
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Has anyone else noticed their Lumia using 3G when it shouldn't be e.g. at home with a working wifi access point?
Mine has done this a few times and because WP7 is so clean and simple it's pretty hard to see what's actually going on - there's no data counter. And to make it worse the data icon shows in the status bar even when wifi is on. Ideally it would show one or the other.
Yes, I notice that too. It could be a bug.
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Has anyone else noticed their Lumia using 3G when it shouldn't be e.g. at home with a working wifi access point?
Mine has done this a few times and because WP7 is so clean and simple it's pretty hard to see what's actually going on - there's no data counter. And to make it worse the data icon shows in the status bar even when wifi is on. Ideally it would show one or the other.
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Yup, I think it uses 3G when the phone is locked, as the phone seems to disconnect from Wi-Fi when you lock the phone. Another bug that probably needs addressing.
Yes! This affects me too.
It switches to 3G randomly when I'm on wifi and kills my data without me realising (or shows failed page loads when I have full wifi reception).
It also turns off wifi whenever I lock phone which seems to disrupt/cancel all push messages! Push messaging just isn't working.
So is this problem unique to Lumia 800?
i've noticed this too. it'll also present me with wifi hotspots to connect to, including ones it should be connected to.
as of now, i don't know whether it's an issue with locked or unlocked handsets. my handset was bought unlocked with no branding, but i've noticed some of the bugs i'm having don't seem to happen on network locked/branded handsets.
It's not a Lumia thing, it's just how WP works. Turning off wifi to save on battery use I guess. Android has the same default setting, although it allows you to change it.
I can understand it using 3G for background processes, like you say Android does the same thing.
What I can't understand is it using 3G when I am using the web browser on the phone, and the Wifi icon is lit at the top of the screen.
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It's not a Lumia thing, it's just how WP works. Turning off wifi to save on battery use I guess. Android has the same default setting, although it allows you to change it.
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That's not the case actually, before the firmware update I used to get my notifications, after the update, I don't, I think Nokia did it on the firmware update.
Which firmware was this working in btw?
Oh and turning off WLAN when you have an active connection does NOT save power. It only saves power when there isn't an active connection because the 3G uses more for retrieving background data (eg. regular email, social networking updates) and *much* more for retrieving heavy data. I have tested this on numerous Nokia phones.
^ i got the opposite result - normally i have WLAN turned on at all times, because it always connects to wifi at home and at work. my battery lasted much longer (it lasted the night with 39% left, as opposed to going flat sometime in the night) with just the 3g turned on.
I noticed that wi-fi only stays on after you lock the screen if the phone is charging. Otherwise it cuts the conncetion. Very annoying indeed if you are downloading big games over wi-fi. However I get my notifications and emails just fine in any case. Remeber though, windows phone doesnt support proper push, hence why they cant get skype to recieve calls in the background. Facebook and whatsapp push always comes about 3-4 minutes later than needed.
Another thing that i have been testing for a while on various phones (nokia n9 included, not the lumia because it's too unreliable) and also got mentioned in this tread is wi-fi vs 3g consumption.
So my results are:
with 3 emails 15-30 mins sync or push for one, at least one push service eg, facebook, vkontakte whatsapp etc (where possible)
i concluded that if you just leave the phone there for a day in standby and dont use it, it drains quicker with wi-fi on. Everytime. Every phone.
However when using the internet eg. browsing for half an hour etc. wi-fi uses a lot less battery than 3g.
So only use the wi fi when you need it and switch it off for background tasks. (WP7 does that anyway, for a reason)
I have had my Xperia P for about a week, and I've noticed on multiple occasions that the signal notification fluctuates quite often. It goes from 0 bars to 4 or 5 and back to zero quite a bit.
Also it tends to not receive data via mobile connection unless you go into airplane mode and go back to mobile data.
This is not a "death grip" issue because it will do this on the table even.
Any thoughts?
it gets kind of annoying.
I'm probably stating the obvious, but have you tried a reboot / other phones?
My Xperia also shows some fluctuation in the signal strength, but no different than for instance my old HTC Hero. However, I never have to go into airplane mode or anything to receive data.
Hey,
Im having kind of the same problem with my Xperia S. When I set the data trafic on, the "3g" sign on the very top of the screen pops up, but dissapears after just 1 second and I dont get any internet connection. The phone has done this before, but then the connection comes back after 10 seconds or so, but now its been gone for 2 days. I know I have full coverage where I am, so its not that.
I've tried and turn the phone off and on again but it didn't help. I have also tried turning data off and on again but nothing seems to help. Is anyone having the same issue as me?
Please help!!
Also going via airplane mode
Hi!
Having exactly the same issues as brdl04. Going via airplane mode is needed like twice a week.
Using Xperia P with firmware 6.0.B.1.564, Swedish operator Telenor.
Wondering if this is limited to specific apps/situations, as I mostly (and nearly always) need to activate/deactivate airplane mode when I need Spotify in online mode. Other apps seem to work fine, sometimes.
I hope Sony will release minor updates too. Seems like they are fully focussing on ICS. Looking forward to it.
// Andreas
Hi!
I have a few very annoying problems I want to get rid of.
The first is that all sorts of push notifications are often (if not always) very delayed. For example, when someone's played Wordfeud and it's my turn it can take up to 20 minutes before the phone alerts me. Same thing with Whatsapp and other apps. I did a factory reset recently and the problem seemed solved but after just a few hours the delays began to appear again. Both with 3G and Wi Fi.
It is the same thing with the built in FB-chat. Sometimes messages are also delayed for up to an hour. Occationally when I enter the Message hub and swipes to Online tab the messages arrives but it's rare. It could at first appear as work when two or maximum three messages arrives but then the conversation just dies and I must go to the Facebook app to view and continue the chat. Also after the factory reset it worked somewhat fine but just like with Push notifications it didn't work long enough... Same here, both over 3G and Wi Fi.
Does anyone have a single clue of what the issue is here?
Is the phone checking for new notifications in a certain pattern, like every 30 minutes?
I'm not completely sure if this is the right forum for this but I'm beginning to be kind of desperate. Notifications on iOS and Android works like a charm and I don't think the Lumia with WP should be behind in this matter.
Extremly thankful for answers.
Regards
Mikael Ivarsson
Nokia Lumia 800
OS version: 7.10.8773.98
Zune: Latest available
its not a problem of software, its a wanted feature of microsoft, wp7 doesnt have any multitastking, so if you turn of wifi and whatsapp is running, wifi is turned off for some minutes and if you turn on screen, wifi connects and whatsapp gets your messages, thats what i realized..
next phone wont be wp. :/ nice OS but the little things like this are annoying
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its not a problem of software, its a wanted feature of microsoft, wp7 doesnt have any multitastking, so if you turn of wifi and whatsapp is running, wifi is turned off for some minutes and if you turn on screen, wifi connects and whatsapp gets your messages, thats what i realized..
next phone wont be wp. :/ nice OS but the little things like this are annoying
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Thanks for the reply!
But that's the strange thing, even if i don't turn off the screen and keep the phone "awake" there are no toast. The push notifications were instant for a few hours after the factory reset so there must be something that is "blocking" push messages. Same thing with the fb-chat. The chat should also work without problems even when the screen is turned off.
Me too are also considering walking out of Microsoft on this one. The OS is very beautiful and everything is so thought through but they still have som work to do.
Yes, background agents run every 30 minutes
thats why i wont buy a wp phone anymore. its really annoying and not SMARTphone like!
But shouldn't push messages be pushed through nearly instant?
it should be popup in the second it arrives
Exactly. Even if the screen is unlocked and wifi 3G is connected and all that it still is a delay.
The problem seem to have solved itself! I don't know what I've done but one morning I woke up and everything worked smoothly. Let's hope the issue doesn't return!
Data connection should be enabled for Push notifications to work. Maybe you went above your data cap or sometimes the 3G reception got lost.
Also, are you sure that app uses Push notifications and not regular Toasts sent by a background agent ?
Hey guys,
I have a "little" problem with my S2. Whenever I leave wifi on and let the screen go off, my phone will get into SoD (sleep of death) and I can't wake it up. This will happen sooner or later.
I have this problem with every ROM I can think of. It's been a long time since I used a stock ROM, so I don't know if this only happens on Custom-ROMs.
Finding out that wifi (or my data connection) was causing those problems was a long process with a lot of frustration and trial and error (catlog won't work or doesn't show anything regarding the problem).
I tried to get rid of this problem with the APP "PNF - Push Notification Fixer" by reducing the heartbeat intervall of the wifi and mobile to 5 and 6 minutes (15 and 28 before) this seemed to reduce the frequency of the SoDs, but they are still happening.
I can get rid of the problem almost all the times with deactivating wifi when I let the screen go off or lock the phone myself. I get the same result when I turn off "Wifi optimization" in advanced wifi setting, but this is draining my battery pretty fast.
So basically I can use my wifi only when the phone is on the charger (no deep sleep at all) or if I turn it off when I lock the phone (something like 30 seconds can sometimes be enough to get the phone into SoD).
With data on and the screen locked I only experienced one SoD and this seemed to happen when I lost my signal at all.
So my conclusion is, that whenever I lose my data connection (might it be wifi or mobile) my phone does seem to get stuck in deep sleep at that moment or the moment it tries to reestablish the connection (the problem most propably got less after using PNF, because my router would kick my phones connection after a few minutes (10 would be my guess) of inactivity and this prevented a long enough inactivity. But they still happen (SoDs)). When I turn both wifi and mobile off and let it go into deep sleep this is no problem and no SoDs happen.
The SoDs were less but also happened when I were on CM11 M11 official, but got really frequent when I switched to Markox89's version of CM.
This is no rant or anything, I just want to get to the core of this problem and wanted to see/ask if there is something different in the Wifi module or wifi settings in this build and what could cause this very annoying problem.
Maybe someone else has this problem, too. Maybe my hardware is just faulty and I have to live with this :/
If it wasn't for this problem this ROM would run pretty smooth and flawless.
Does anybody else have the same problem or somehow knows how to get rid of it? This would get a lot of frustration out of my everday life :victory:
My setup right now:
- Markox89's CM11 Mod (22.11) (4.4.4)
- Lanchon's TRIM Kernel for CM 22.11 (same problem before using TRIM)
- Lanchon's Music bug fix (same problem before using Music bug fix)
- Modem: XXMS4
EDIT:
- XPosed with Xprivacy
- common apps like Threema, Telegram, whatsapp...
Tl;dr: my phone gets stuck in deep-sleep (SoD) if I leave wifi on when my screen turns off. no problem with mobile on or both data connections off. Halp?
@xhoster try to clean flash a rom and try it without all those apps you are using and then you can see or its app related or rom related. If it's rom related then I think some people already posted before there.
Also maybe try a custom kernel.
Try these things, I can't help you further then this atm.
Also mybe logcat the issue so you can read where it goes wrong.
FINAL EDIT: The problem seems to be the wifi driver all along!
Flashed the Apolo Kernel and this solved my SOD problem only had two since then and those seemed to be APP related!
Happy right now
It's seems to be the xposed framework! Tried it with a fresh installation after RomNuke and the phone was sleeping for 45 minutes and nothing happened, installed xposed and 10 minutes later I got a SoD. Tried it with the 2.7 beta 1 and the 2.6.1 stable version. Both gave me a SoD when I left wifi on...
Is this a known problem or has anybody ever had this problem?
When I tried it, I didn't even installed any modules, just the framework.
EDIT: I am going to test a bit more to see if it really is xposed or just the phone hanging whenever a connection is lost.
Hello everyone,
Sony Xperia 1 III (QX-BC52)
I found two problems or bugs:
1. PROBLEM WITH MOBILE DATA:
This problem does not occur on the wifi network, but only when the phone uses mobile data. I will also send you a couple of different videos that I recorded with the screen record application so you can see exactly how the problem occurs.
First, for about ten days, I noticed that the icon from 4g was disappearing from time to time, and then I tried for days to find the problem and to see when and why it disappears at times and somehow I succeeded in that. This problem is present in all applications when a video is played and the sound is turned up to maximum, as soon as the sound is reduced to about half of the icons with mobile data (4g) do not disappear and the mobile data transfer works normally without interruption, or only press pause for fix this bug.
I will upload one or two videos in link bellow with situation when I show this bugs:
https://www.reddit.com/r/SonyXperia/comments/vyc7r3
I will share list with all the applications in which this problem occurs that I have personally tested:
- Viber during video calls (occasionally)
- YouTube (every time)
- Facebook (every time)
- Instagram (every time)
In addition to this problem, I noticed that when downloading applications on the 4g network, sometimes the applications are downloaded quite slowly if we keep in mind that the phone downloads them on the 4g network. Sometimes it takes a few seconds to download a 20mb application and sometimes ten seconds, in both situations the signal is full.
2. PROBLEM WITH MOBILE NETWORK:
It also occurs frequently in areas where the phone mainly uses the 2G network, then the connection is often interrupted during the conversation, and therefore also during that period the phone cannot establish a connection, it throws out the message that there is no network even though the area is covered by the network.
I am noticing the same problem, so looks like its a problem with this update. Nothing to do with a particular region or carrier it seems.
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I am noticing the same problem, so looks like its a problem with this update. Nothing to do with a particular region or carrier it seems.
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My Sony Xperia 1 III is a model for the European market, and a friend has the same phone, but his model is for the Asian market. Both mine and his phone have the same android version and the same software version and he has the same problem, so it doesn't matter what market the phone is made. I tried with another operator's sim card, but the problem is still there. The problem is obviously in the software.
Yea i notice that too. i thought my sim card was bad. f###K after i just made the decision to say on a12..
My XQ-BC62 does it too. When there's loud midrange, LTE drops and the cell indicator flickers. Logcat is so junked up during playback that I don't even know what to look for.
If I output a square wave 22Khz sound, the audio power scales up and down and cellular cycles on and off. It seems like part of the phone is out of power and it's not managed well.
This is an incredibly stupid fault but good to know about. The last thing this phone needs is even more cellular drops.
Im having a problem right now, not entirely sure what exact market my Xperia 1/iii (XQ-BC72) is from, i think Oceanic? As i live in New Zealand but at the moment and for the last week and a half or so i havent been able to make calls and texts either fail a few times then send or take forever to send, its really annoying me cos i also have to use my phone for work, and when i cant make or receive calls most the time it sucks! Aswell as it will say "Calling" when i have Signal Bars, but wont make dail sound/go through or it'll just fail!