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Just wondering if this can be done please so I don't risk my warranty
Also what are the main advantages to rooting please? ( I am not thick, but I have just come from a jailbroke i4, so i would just like some quick opinions )
Thanks
jameslfc5 said:
Just wondering if this can be done please so I don't risk my warranty
Also what are the main advantages to rooting please? ( I am not thick, but I have just come from a jailbroke i4, so i would just like some quick opinions )
Thanks
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Moved to General. Please don't open threads to ask questions in development.
You can unroot. Stock ROMs exist here which can be flashed via ODIN, and which will remove root. If you are on O2 UK branded ROM, it is also available.
To reset the number of "unsigned" ROMs flashed though, you need to use a USB Jig (which is a resistor and a USB plug).
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064894 for re-branding and unrooting an O2 model, and another thread is somewhere for restoring the stock firmware for a non branded one.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068522 to reset the counter in download mode.
jameslfc5 said:
Just wondering if this can be done please so I don't risk my warranty
Also what are the main advantages to rooting please? ( I am not thick, but I have just come from a jailbroke i4, so i would just like some quick opinions )
Thanks
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Current problem with rooting is that there is a counter for number of flashed custom kernels inside the phone. When you root, that number goes up. No info yet on how to reset the counter, so it's possible that it could affect your warranty. (Unlikely, but possible) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068522 - Kind of difficult though, hopefully an easier way comes along!
Unrooting would be done by flashing back a stock Samsung kernel/rom.
Advantages to rooting are currently:
1) Removing system apps that you can't remove normally.
2) Run certain apps that require root. (Not many of these, really)
3) Modify the framework.apk which let's you do things like skin some of the UI, such as changing battery meters and that.
RyanZA said:
Current problem with rooting is that there is a counter for number of flashed custom kernels inside the phone. When you root, that number goes up. No info yet on how to reset the counter, so it's possible that it could affect your warranty. (Unlikely, but possible)
Unrooting would be done by flashing back a stock Samsung kernel/rom.
Advantages to rooting are currently:
1) Removing system apps that you can't remove normally.
2) Run certain apps that require root. (Not many of these, really)
3) Modify the framework.apk which let's you do things like skin some of the UI, such as changing battery meters and that.
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Eh? You can reset the counter now mate
Shove a USB Jig from an SGS 1 into the USB port and it should reset and remove the yellow warning, even telling you that a custom kernel is an original binary... See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068522
Thanks for your replies everyone
What is the best method to use to root, which is the easiest to reverse?
Thank you so much!
jameslfc5 said:
Thanks for your replies everyone
What is the best method to use to root, which is the easiest to reverse?
Thank you so much!
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One method to root. Thread is stuck on development area.
One method to unroot. Thread is in development. You flash stock rom via odin and then reset counter with a jig
pulser_g2 said:
One method to root. Thread is stuck on development area.
One method to unroot. Thread is in development. You flash stock rom via odin and then reset counter with a jig
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Cheers, can you quickly explain with a jig is please?
Also what level of difficulty would you give it?
jameslfc5 said:
Cheers, can you quickly explain with a jig is please?
Also what level of difficulty would you give it?
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You can buy a jig online or make one. It's a single resistor and a usb connector. Solder them together correctly and done
Difficulty to someone with the slightest electronics experience is zero. I'm going to pop one together tomorrow and it will likely take about 4 minutes, most of which waiting on soldering equipment to heat up.
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Cheers, can you quickly explain with a jig is please?
Also what level of difficulty would you give it?
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I can't find the unroot thread?
Also what is the method to stop Samsung from knowing it has been rooted?
Sorry for all the questions, I am coming for an iPhone and a jailbreak and understand all that perfectly fine, just trying to get my head around android
jameslfc5 said:
I can't find the unroot thread?
Also what is the method to stop Samsung from knowing it has been rooted?
Sorry for all the questions, I am coming for an iPhone and a jailbreak and understand all that perfectly fine, just trying to get my head around android
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Unroot - just flash one of the stock ROMs.
Stop samsung knowing of the flash? It's the "reset counter" thread.
Just a Question...
If i just Root the Stock ROM without flashing any other Custom roms as I can live with stock.. will that have any effect on Flash Counters?.. I dont want to void warranty ...So i can flash stock rom again..
If I flash stock roms.. counters will run or will not be effected?
will not be affected.
I have a question,
I rooted my device and now i have to send it in for service.
I have flashed in a stock rom and reseted the counter but when i check my info in settings it says
[email protected]#2
I have tried with super one click but i only get
Getting model...
GT-I9100
OK 0,03s
Getting version...
XWKF3
OK 0,02s
Not supported!
FAILED
Any ideas how to get rid of the [email protected] in the end of the info?
ringe123 said:
I have a question,
I rooted my device and now i have to send it in for service.
I have flashed in a stock rom and reseted the counter but when i check my info in settings it says
[email protected]#2
I have tried with super one click but i only get
Getting model...
GT-I9100
OK 0,03s
Getting version...
XWKF3
OK 0,02s
Not supported!
FAILED
Any ideas how to get rid of the [email protected] in the end of the info?
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That has nothing to do with root on your phone
I'm not sure but I think it is related to the build machine used to build the kernel.
You unroot by downloading the latest official firmware for you region/carrier. If that is done then you're fine.
Ok, since i downloaded the KF3 rom from this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278 thread it should be fine to turn the phone in for service, without they come back to me and say my root ruined my menubutton which have stopped working
ringe123 said:
Ok, since i downloaded the KF3 rom from this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278 thread it should be fine to turn the phone in for service, without they come back to me and say my root ruined my menubutton which have stopped working
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well, there is a counter counting how many insecure kernels have been downloaded, you need the USB-jig to reset that, but in many cases the service centers doesn't check this at service.
I have already reseted the counter with a usb-jig and i have no yellow triangle or anything like that so it looks like everything is stock exept the kernel version.
hopefully they won´t even check it and repair it under warranty.
Sorry to bump thread. I flashed to stock firmware with odin3 but I think it is still rooted because the unlock tool, which requires phone to be rooted, still works. How do I unroot?
Flash full stock firmware = unroot if used the Chainfire CWM and Root method .
jje
What is "flash one of the stock roms"?
I already rooted my Galaxy S2 now I would like to unroot it (I add certain programs for superuser, so that I would be able to run them as root while unrooted).
What rom should I get? Considering my kernel is XWKDD-CL16 ...
Hi, I got my galaxy s2 in the post a week ago, but it was second hand, apparently unwanted upgrade. Anyway, is this an official kernal please, as I haven't seen it on any other device on YouTube when watching a meriad of reviews. So I have attached a screen shot of the kernal version. By the way this should be a sim free UK modal. I know this is random, but I have stupidly got my self a bit worried, could someone help me please? Thanks very much
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It looks like they've possibly upped the kernel, but definitely rooted it. I very seriously doubt there's anything to worry about though. Looks like someone did the work for you
Nothing wrong there, you're rooted. If you're worried you could flash a different kernel! Easy as pie if you follow the threads available
Hi, but root checker says that I don't have root same with set cpu. Also, can i update it ota, to the new 2.3.4 when it comes out officially please? Also, I rooted my old htc desire, and then I wanted to root my galaxy s2 when ever here was a stableish nightly for ice cream sandwich, but will the fact it hasn't got an official kernel obscure me from flashing using odin to flash roms, other kenels and installing custom recovery, or because it says it isn't rooted, will it obscure be from rooting. Also are there any risks please? I am new to galaxy s2, I am used to the simplify of rooting the desire. thanks, also how do you know it's rooted?
Thanks very much for your help
johncmolyneux said:
It looks like they've possibly upped the kernel, but definitely rooted it. I very seriously doubt there's anything to worry about though. Looks like someone did the work for you
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Also, could you please be able to tell be, where in the procedure of rooting is my phone to be able to root, flash if someone has started the work for me please? I am just scared that if I start to mess around with trying to root it, and if someone has started the rooting the process, I might brick it. I don't know if I have explained this very well.
I should have done this before, but when it is so long I didn't think it would work, but I typed in the kernel in the search box and it came up with this, I think it may be stock and completely normal after all: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14593753
I got mine from Orange and the kernel was KE2. I think that KE7 is an official firmware, but the "root" in the name suggests it's already been rooted. Have a look in your apps for CWM or Superuser. If they're there then it's probably Chainfire's root that has been applied. If not then maybe they just flashed a stock kernel before sending it to you.
Either way, following the instructions in Chainfire's root thread will not brick your device (as long as you do follow the instructions )
It's actually quite hard to brick it. You really need to start pulling cables or stopping odin when you're flashing to do that.
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I got mine from Orange and the kernel was KE2. I think that KE7 is an official firmware, but the "root" in the name suggests it's already been rooted. Have a look in your apps for CWM or Superuser. If they're there then it's probably Chainfire's root that has been applied. If not then maybe they just flashed a stock kernel before sending it to you.
Either way, following the instructions in Chainfire's root thread will not brick your device (as long as you do follow the instructions )
It's actually quite hard to brick it. You really need to start pulling cables or stopping odin when you're flashing to do that.
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Or if you start flashing Samsung Galaxy S 1 files onto your Samsung Galaxy S 2 like some people...
my brand new phone from vodafone australia was kernel dukf4 with [email protected] in the title, but it was most certainly not a rooted device.
I am now on ke7, rooted, no dramas. dont have cwm or rom, phone does not seem to need it for my lifestyle.
hey guys,
i just bought a samsung galaxy s2, rooted it with odin/superoneclick... works fine but i need to go back to a regular, vanilla galaxy s
i used super one click to unroot the phone, but i still get that yellow warning triangle every time i start up my phone. so i think it has something to do with that odin thing or whatever... again, super illiterate... i just really need to go back to a normal, no root, nothing regular old galaxy s 2! i'd really appreciate it guys. thanks so much!
There is (currently) no way to return to stock Bell i9100m. The firmware just hasn't been released. For future reference, do a little more reading before you flash anything as this has been mentioned in almost any thread flashing a Bell Galaxy S2 is mentioned.
Why do you want to go back anyway? Are you having some sort of problem? Is it for warranty service? If it's just the yellow triangle that's bothering you there are ways to get rid of that, use the search. Since you're still on the original firmware, at this time you will be able to get everything back to stock except the kernel.
Yep, as the poster above me mentioned theres no way to completely go back to "bell stock." Though if you just want unrooted samsung stock, flash any of the plethora of official samsung odin updates out there (kg3,kg6 etc) imo they are better anyway, no bloat and they perform better. Plus they will get rid of that pesky triangle thats bothering you so much.
Regards
could you provide a link please?
avneetsidhu said:
could you provide a link please?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1194550&highlight=xxkg6
thats the thread for one of the MANY updates available for the SGS II, look around you'll find tons of roms. Research how to work odin before you flash though (if thats what you are going to do) odin can easily brick your phone if you don't know what you are doing.
while i have you here... i did the odin thing, i figured, **** it, might as well just use these custom kernel things.. i have no idea what they are or do. i just flashed ninphetamine or something... what exactly does it do? also, how come titanium back up etc say that it is not rooted. do i need to do the superoneclick?
Before you continue i would suggest you start reading before flashing/doing anything more. Its scary when people flash stuff without gaining the minimum knowledge to understand whats involved and the consequences. We could hold your hand and tell ya this and that but its been said many times before in this very forums.
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Searched around a lot about this, and just really need some clarification.
When connecting to Kies I'm prompted about the latest firmware PDA:KG5 / phone:KG1 / CSC:KG1 (XSG.) Is this the official release of 2.3.4 or 2.3.5? and what is the proper term to call this update by, KG5 or KG1 (not sure if you use the PDA # or the phone/CSC # to state which firmware Im using during online conversation.)
Also I am currently rooted on PDA:KF3 / Phone:KF1 / CSC:KF2 (XSG.) Which is 2.3.3. I know I will loose my root / super user status if I do the firmware update via Kies.
If I do update to the KG5 firmware listed above, what is the best method to root? If the firmware update I listed above is 2.3.4, Can I use the same method as listed all over the place to root the leaked version of 2.3.4 that came out in early July (I believe it was KG3?) The method is pretty much Orion & super one click.
If the firmware update I listed above is 2.3.5, what is the best way to root it? All in all, I'm not sure if you can root a stock release from Samsung the same way as a leaked version.
Thanks in advance everyone, this is my first Android phone after years in IOS so I apologize in advance if my question makes no sense. I'm doing my best!
Don't get too much confused.
It's an official release and you should update. No way it will be 2.3.5. Then you could use Chainfire's kernel for root. Normally we quote the PDA version as firmware, so you could quote it as KG5.
Link to CF kernel thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
Regards.
Thank You very much for the clarification.
I will try that out.
I would flash with odin, kies might brick your phone. by the way, you can flash cf kernel again, but first install original firmware. It must be three parts and a pit file,
Repartition box should be checked.
You will lose your data, secure your phone with titanium backup then you can restore you apps and give them back their memories.
hope it helps.
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SupraN0va said:
kies might brick your phone.
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Hold on mate, Kies would brick your phone?
Well well well, I haven't heard this ever and I don't think it is true. Bricking a device is not an easy thing. Well I like Odin too, that's because of it has some other connection/drivers problem sometimes, but 'Bricking'? Nah, Negative.
The other thing is, I'd always recommend update via Kies if the user is new comer and have less idea about upgradation, he could do some mistakes in Odin, but never in Kies.
Regards.
ithehappy said:
Hold on mate, Kies would brick your phone?
Well well well, I haven't heard this ever and I don't think it is true. Bricking a device is not an easy thing. Well I like Odin too, that's because of it has some other connection/drivers problem sometimes, but 'Bricking'? Nah, Negative.
The other thing is, I'd always recommend update via Kies if the user is new comer and have less idea about upgradation, he could do some mistakes in Odin, but never in Kies.
Regards.
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Thanks ithehappy. I looked hard to find this thread and glad for it. I was about to flash from KF2 to the new one offered by the updated Kies software - firmware version KG5 in my case. Atm I have a rooted phone and replaced the stock XXKF2 kernal back using ODIN successfully using the one offered here somewhere on XDA. (got rid of the yellow triangle issue on boot).
Do you think if I flash using Kies all will be right??? Just got nervous from what the other poster said... I am not overly interested in rooting again, It was mere experimentation that made me do it in the first place. Cheers & thanks for your time.
To mooksy
if you have replaced the unofficial firmware or kernal back to the original everything will be fine.The only problem you will have is that if you havent replaced all the non-official with official then kies wont recognise your phone anyway and you wont be able to update that way.
KF2 to KD5 firmware upgrade via Kies 2.0 update
cooza said:
To mooksy
if you have replaced the unofficial firmware or kernal back to the original everything will be fine.The only problem you will have is that if you havent replaced all the non-official with official then kies wont recognise your phone anyway and you wont be able to update that way.
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Thanks cooza, I have read the thread on here concerning the KD5 update and a lot of people make the process sound really confusing to say the least, obsessive IMHO . Is it worth the trouble updating the SGS2 right now? Afterall my phone is fine and I thought rooting would be some kind of epiphany but to me its just... (shrugs shoulder)
SupraN0va said:
I would flash with odin, kies might brick your phone. by the way, you can flash cf kernel again, but first install original firmware. It must be three parts and a pit file,
Repartition box should be checked.
You will lose your data, secure your phone with titanium backup then you can restore you apps and give them back their memories.
hope it helps.
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WTF?
PIT FILE? REPARTITION?
WTF?^2
Please don't advise people to use PIT files and Repartition unless you are going to back them up with a replacement phone.
Please remember, most pple who come here are really not very experienced and don't really know what they are doing.
JKDEM85 said:
Searched around a lot about this, and just really need some clarification.
When connecting to Kies I'm prompted about the latest firmware PDA:KG5 / phone:KG1 / CSC:KG1 (XSG.) Is this the official release of 2.3.4 or 2.3.5? and what is the proper term to call this update by, KG5 or KG1 (not sure if you use the PDA # or the phone/CSC # to state which firmware Im using during online conversation.)
Also I am currently rooted on PDA:KF3 / Phone:KF1 / CSC:KF2 (XSG.) Which is 2.3.3. I know I will loose my root / super user status if I do the firmware update via Kies.
If I do update to the KG5 firmware listed above, what is the best method to root? If the firmware update I listed above is 2.3.4, Can I use the same method as listed all over the place to root the leaked version of 2.3.4 that came out in early July (I believe it was KG3?) The method is pretty much Orion & super one click.
If the firmware update I listed above is 2.3.5, what is the best way to root it? All in all, I'm not sure if you can root a stock release from Samsung the same way as a leaked version.
Thanks in advance everyone, this is my first Android phone after years in IOS so I apologize in advance if my question makes no sense. I'm doing my best!
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1. It would be the release of 2.3.4 as as the other on has not been leaked yet,
there is only one trial version in the CM7 but it is a work in progress.
2. You would call it by its PDA # KG5. CSC and Phone can be any
combination depend on which country you are in.
3. yes, after flashing you will need to reroot again.
4. Just use chainfire Kg5 root. You will not need to use super one click as
chainfire has done all the work for you.
use this thread for rooting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
5. you can root a stock version the same as a leaked version. You may have to
wait a day or so till chainfire has made a root for it. He is usually on top of
it as soon as someone sends him the kernal.
MOOKSY
If you are happy with your phone and your not much of a flasher or rom changer and all that then just stay as you are if your happy.Unrooting and flashing to the lastest via kies is also a good idea cos kies is an official update so can only bring good things,right.If you feel the need then re-root.Kies is always a safe bet if your new to updates and at least they are all offiall so if something did happen samsung would have to cover it while odin is an "at your own risk" deal.
COOZA
Sorry off-topic (ish) I read that you bricked two of your phones using tar files for sgs2 on sgs, did you manage to jig it back to life and with any success? I want to root again after using Kies for KG5 update. but now i'll use CF's work on here. After reading that other sites could result in potential disaster I think I was lucky , i too just googled a random site for the rooting kit.
Unfortunatly for me i damaged the bootloader so the jig wont work.Im going to have to find someone with a riff box jtag and see if that works.I hope its does.If i cant find anyone with one ill just have to buy it myself.Worth the money when its 2 phones that need to be done.My bricking came from a site that mixed up phones with other phones firmwares.Wont be going back there again and that was before i hooked up to XDA anyway.Now all my downloads are done from here as this a good site to be with.
Will CF auto root would it be able to root android 5.0.1. I really do not care about the Samsung knots being trigger my phone is already out of warranty. I just have insurance if it gets stolen or I drop it in water. Or should I wait until they find a root method without triggering Samsung knots. I read about triangle away but like I said at this point I can careless if it gets trigger. What are you guys opinion?
The first rule of XDA is - Search.
dgutierrez04 said:
Will CF auto root would it be able to root android 5.0.1. I really do not care about the Samsung knots being trigger my phone is already out of warranty. I just have insurance if it gets stolen or I drop it in water. Or should I wait until they find a root method without triggering Samsung knots. I read about triangle away but like I said at this point I can careless if it gets trigger. What are you guys opinion?
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As of now, if you took the OTA and did not preserve root, there is no root method available. Also, "Knox"
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dgutierrez04 said:
First of all I did search. I spent 2 days searching. So i figured i had the right to ask.
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No root for OC1 unless you took the neutered tar through odin or used a ROM from @gigilie or another dev .
mike.s said:
The first rule of XDA is - Search.
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I spent 2 days searching the forms. So I figured I was in the right to ask a question.
Illogi.xbone said:
As of now, if you took the OTA and did not preserve root, there is no root method available. Also, "Knox"
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Thank you. I was did preserve root. for lollipop but what happen I let my nephew play on my phone and he ran safestrap and i was stuck in a bootloop. I couldn't get it out no matter what. I was in the bootloader OC1. I was one of the guys that help Muniz achieve root for everyone. We were having Wifi issues but i told him i would upgrade my bootloader to help if it would fix it. but it was the kernel. So i needed to used samsung kies to get my back up. So thats how I lost root. But thank you for your help.
dgutierrez04 said:
Thank you. I was did preserve root. for lollipop but what happen I let my nephew play on my phone and he ran safestrap and i was stuck in a bootloop. I couldn't get it out no matter what. I was in the bootloader OC1. I was one of the guys that help Muniz achieve root for everyone. We were having Wifi issues but i told him i would upgrade my bootloader to help if it would fix it. but it was the kernel. So i needed to used samsung kies to get my back up. So thats how I lost root. But thank you for your help.
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Fyi...... @dgutierrez04 was the guy that pulled the OC1 ota update for me when no one else could due to the two part 5.0 update. He also took one for the team during testing of the OC1, Stock Rooted ROM so many of you enjoy today by updating his bootloader to OC1.
I assume he has no backup phone.
That said, it seems a lot of people have to use Kies... as Odin reports fails...
I did not root my I545 verizon so now I have lollipop oc1. My question is should I not take the next upgrade for lollipop or at this point does it make a difference as far as getting root?
Thoughts are more than welcome
XxD34THxX said:
I assume he has no backup phone.
That said, it seems a lot of people have to use Kies... as Odin reports fails...
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No I do not have a backup phone. But hey that's how we learn. I will do it again for the community if I can capture again the update and test it for everyone I would. I am a te player. I wish I could built roms but I'm not that smart lol.
traco1 said:
I did not root my I545 verizon so now I have lollipop oc1. My question is should I not take the next upgrade for lollipop or at this point does it make a difference as far as getting root?
Thoughts are more than welcome
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I suggest is to wait and hope they can find a root method and try to avoid future updates as off right now. That's what I would suggest you doing as for me I will be doing the same.
dgutierrez04 said:
No I do not have a backup phone. But hey that's how we learn. I will do it again for the community if I can capture again the update and test it for everyone I would. I am a te player. I wish I could built roms but I'm not that smart lol.
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Neither am I(smart enough for a ROM build). As much as I love Unix, it isn't a full time playground. Still loving Visual Basic and batch...