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i have a valid question for you guys. every ice cream rom ive tried has given me significant lag/choppiness and heats up my rezound. now today i played with both a gnexus at verizon and a htc one x at at&t and it was smooth as butter. is our issues because of no ota or kernel source? just curious as to what you guys think?
thanks!
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i have a valid question for you guys. every ice cream rom ive tried has given me significant lag/choppiness and heats up my rezound. now today i played with both a gnexus at verizon and a htc one x at at&t and it was smooth as butter. is our issues because of no ota or kernel source? just curious as to what you guys think?
thanks!
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Both I would take a very educated guess in saying. no OTA means it is a work in progress and no kernel source means that the kernels aren't really tweaked out for the ROMs they are running....
my guess is sense bogs us down a good bit. also ics is coded for the gnex.
Without kernel source, we're stuck with what the leak has. From what I've read, that is not good.
I'm sticking with GB until we have source...GB flies for me!
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my guess is sense bogs us down a good bit. also ics is coded for the gnex.
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Yeah, Sense 3.5/.6 are steaming piles of laggy crap, but 4.0 seems really nice.
I have official ics on my unrooted galaxy tab 2. It has the touchwiz overlay but is still superfast. I was worried too that ICS was slow until I got this. I think the omap processor is a better performer on average than a qualcomm too, but not by much.
If you are running the gb kernel and firmware it is hit or miss with ics roms for the rezound. GB will always be faster if running gb firmware and kernel. I hope that the ics kernel is fixed when we get the official ics update and that sense doesnt bog things down. We really need htc to release kernel source and firmware in order to have a solid base for ics roms imo. I love Rez Rom Sense 3.6 ICS though, runs pretty good even on old firmware.
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LunaticSerenade said:
I'm sticking with GB until we have source...GB flies for me!
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GB flies for me too, even running a sense ROM.
I always chuckle when people post how "slow and laggy" sense is.
I get absolutely zero lag running sense 3.5 and figure those posters are probably clueless on how to correctly set up their system.......
tekhna said:
Yeah, Sense 3.5/.6 are steaming piles of laggy crap, but 4.0 seems really nice.
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Actually for me all of the sense 4.0 ports were super laggy. I can say gb seems more fluid but the battery life still stinks on my rezound. That one x is really a nice device but im thinking this may be my last htc. I havent had good luck with the brand.
Thanks for the responses guys.
ICS doesn't lag for me ever, but I dig the Senseless roms for the looks, and indeed, Sense 4.0 isn't optimized for us yet.
jmorton10 said:
GB flies for me too, even running a sense ROM.
I always chuckle when people post how "slow and laggy" sense is.
I get absolutely zero lag running sense 3.5 and figure those posters are probably clueless on how to correctly set up their system.......
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when i went from a sense rom to an aosp rom on my inc2 i noticed a big difference in speed. sense definitely affects things.
ics runs great for me on 3.5/3.6 and on 4.0 its great as well... i have no problems at all
I don't get all these people who have all the battery and heating problems. I think it is user error. I have better battery and better signal since I upgraded to ICS CleanROM.
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I don't get all these people who have all the battery and heating problems. I think it is user error. I have better battery and better signal since I upgraded to ICS CleanROM.
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Agreed, if there were such a range in hardware that some overheated while others were great, I'd expect that HTC's quality control was so bad that half the units that were produced wouldn't even power up. Always get a kick out reading about someone who has warrantied a couple of phones then in the next breath says "I'm running "xyz" kernel and OC'd...
Anyway, would you mind sharing your setup Gray? It might help others to know what a working ICS setup is. What Kernel, Radios and other specifics are you running.
What I find is interesting is that with my first rezound I had a horrible experience when I flashed the ICS leak. Extreme overheating, even worse battery life, but it was nothing that I could have done. It was the radios on some hardware that cause this issue. I sent it back, got another, and reran the leak. Haven't looked back since. It's also worth noting that I have a way better experience with ICS then I did with GB. GB scrolling was always choppy and just overall sluggish. ICS fixed all that along with giving me a battery life ranging from 11-17 hours depending on usage.
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What I find is interesting is that with my first rezound I had a horrible experience when I flashed the ICS leak. Extreme overheating, even worse battery life, but it was nothing that I could have done. It was the radios on some hardware that cause this issue. I sent it back, got another, and reran the leak. Haven't looked back since. It's also worth noting that I have a way better experience with ICS then I did with GB. GB scrolling was always choppy and just overall sluggish. ICS fixed all that along with giving me a battery life ranging from 11-17 hours depending on usage.
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I also have a better user experience, as in runs faster, smoother, and less lag along with better battery life on ice cream sandwich than I did on gingerbread. I think a lot of it has to do with how it's set up and configured. And I understand that some people have genuine hardware problems but it seems that it's causing a lot of people to quickly attribute their issues to hardware and not spend the time to chase down the problem and solve it. Regardless another leaked kernel or an official OTA base will definitely be welcomed and help this beast run even better.
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Agreed, if there were such a range in hardware that some overheated while others were great, I'd expect that HTC's quality control was so bad that half the units that were produced wouldn't even power up. Always get a kick out reading about someone who has warrantied a couple of phones then in the next breath says "I'm running "xyz" kernel and OC'd...
Anyway, would you mind sharing your setup Gray? It might help others to know what a working ICS setup is. What Kernel, Radios and other specifics are you running.
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CleanROM Developer 1.2, overclocked 1.8ghz kernel, AmonRa recovery, new ICS radio, juopuntbear boot, S-Off.
Extremely smooth and no problems at all.
Ill put it in my sig too.
jmorton10 said:
GB flies for me too, even running a sense ROM.
I always chuckle when people post how "slow and laggy" sense is.
I get absolutely zero lag running sense 3.5 and figure those posters are probably clueless on how to correctly set up their system.......
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I don't get any "lag" persay with any Rom I've used. What drives me a little nuts is the stuttery and choppy scrolling in a LOT of apps I use daily. The text and the pictures chop, even though the scrolling motion is smooth. Facebook, zynga apps, internet (if its more than text) messaging app, contacts, reddit news... There are some that don't stutter though. Twicca, tapatalk, menu scrolling, root explorer...
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I don't get any "lag" persay with any Rom I've used. What drives me a little nuts is the stuttery and choppy scrolling in a LOT of apps I use daily. The text and the pictures chop, even though the scrolling motion is smooth. Facebook, zynga apps, internet (if its more than text) messaging app, contacts, reddit news... There are some that don't stutter though. Twicca, tapatalk, menu scrolling, root explorer...
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That annoyed me about GB (stock and CleanROM 1.7.5). Even on ICS, Facebook scrolling is choppy, unless you enable Force GPU rendering. Running ICS with Force GPU rendering is an incredibly smooth experience, and I haven't run into any bugs. I'm surprised it's not enabled by default in all ROMs.
I think that people having a better experience on a hacked(nicely mind you), sense 4.0 rom must have set up Gingerbread wrong. See how easy it is to make a statement like that. I have experienced both ics, and gb, and have always had a smoother experience on gb. I hated how ics scrolling in the browser, xda app, tapatalk, and others was jittery at best. I love some of the elements of ics, but the trade off was too much for me. My phone ran about 11 degrees different between ics, and gb. Also, if you go back to around Christmas, overheating was an issue then. On stock. So apparently, this phone can have heat issues. Don't get me wrong, I love this phone, and I appreciate all the work that goes into making roms. I have been following these developers for quite a while. They are all really good. We are blessed to have them.
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That annoyed me about GB (stock and CleanROM 1.7.5). Even on ICS, Facebook scrolling is choppy, unless you enable Force GPU rendering. Running ICS with Force GPU rendering is an incredibly smooth experience, and I haven't run into any bugs. I'm surprised it's not enabled by default in all ROMs.
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So it is the GPU that's the problem as I thought.... But thankfully it isnt because its not good enough. Lol. It's just because its more limited c
I dont know if its me but, my Galaxy note i717 tends to lag a lot, i read up online and figured out its due to the Snapdragon S3 processor, which tends to lag a lot. Does anyone else have this issue... what do u do about it...? im thinking about returning it and getting the Galaxy S3. I installed CM9, team perfection rom, and Hybrid and it still lags...
I love the size of the note, and the S-Pen but I really cant have my phone Lagging, it ruins the user experience...
I came from the iphone 4 which was pretty smooth.. it isn't to fast but it didn't lag at all, other than that i think android is a lot better....
Mine is lag free. I'm running Juggernaut AOKP currently, but I rarely saw lag on GB, and never on ICS. Some notes just seem to be more laggy than others. If you're within 30 days, go exchange it for another one, see if its any better. If not, it may be an rogue app, widget, or launcher that is causing it.
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If you phone is rooted have you tried clearing the catches
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Swaggsolo said:
If you phone is rooted have you tried clearing the catches
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you mean caches?
that just frees memory right? how does that actually speed the phone up though? because android automatically closes program and frees memory already doesnt it?
I'm running OnlyOne ICS ROM and have zero lag. Give this ROM a try. It is the smoothest ICS ROM I have flashed thus far.
Im running with Team Perfections objection. Zero lag.
It is my understanding that the caches aren't memory, but temporary files for applications that can cause problems. Wipe 'em first, Dalvik cache too.
Try v6 supercharger to null the lag. Rememberber in ics there is no custom kernel yet...
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Yeah I get lag (keyboard stutter, switching screen lag, launcher lag etc). Its annoying, but once modded, I'll have it taken care of.
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I am running the Hybrid or Flap's base roms depending on the day of the week it seems...zero lag.
I returned my first Note due to the backlight bleed on the buttons (white version) and was shocked at how much better the second Note was. Originally I thought I had made a mistake in purchasing it. The phone was slowish and the SPen sucked. It would hesitate at everything that it did. I even did a wipe on it to no avail. The second phone brought a smile to my face. Still does!
The S3 is a nice phone and you wouldn't lose either way.
Gramurai said:
Im running with Team Perfections objection. Zero lag.
It is my understanding that the caches aren't memory, but temporary files for applications that can cause problems. Wipe 'em first, Dalvik cache too.
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I second that. Zero lag here with Team Perfection ICS.
I didnt know the note could lag. I am running CM9 and not a hint of lag ever.
shalom azar said:
I dont know if its me but, my Galaxy note i717 tends to lag a lot, i read up online and figured out its due to the Snapdragon S3 processor, which tends to lag a lot. Does anyone else have this issue... what do u do about it...? im thinking about returning it and getting the Galaxy S3. I installed CM9, team perfection rom, and Hybrid and it still lags...
I love the size of the note, and the S-Pen but I really cant have my phone Lagging, it ruins the user experience...
I came from the iphone 4 which was pretty smooth.. it isn't to fast but it didn't lag at all, other than that i think android is a lot better....
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The phone isn't the issue...it's the software.
Just look at the size of the latest ICS leak. 1.1* gigs.
Then look at CM9-- 150 megabytes.
There you have it...950 megabytes of crap. Just a few crappy lines of code can bring a phone down to it's knees.
Not to mention, i've seen the fastest phones available brought down to their knees. If you have 9 pages of widgets, don't expect your phone to be blazing. It takes a lot more to run a widget than it does a 4x5 row of static icons. That's sooooo 1995.
stock GB rom, no lag
this phone runs AMAZING with ICS, really.. better than my friends HTC one X Tegra 3 CPU. Wait until samsung drops the official ICS update. The only one ROM was AMAZING, however I got a lot of bugs that I could not live with.
Jamesyboy said:
The phone isn't the issue...it's the software.
Just look at the size of the latest ICS leak. 1.1* gigs.
Then look at CM9-- 150 megabytes.
There you have it...950 megabytes of crap. Just a few crappy lines of code can bring a phone down to it's knees.
Not to mention, i've seen the fastest phones available brought down to their knees. If you have 9 pages of widgets, don't expect your phone to be blazing. It takes a lot more to run a widget than it does a 4x5 row of static icons. That's sooooo 1995.
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I am totally agree with you. Don't put too many unnecessary widgets on your screen. Pick the one that's important to you for your every day life. You can have better battery life and a very fast and functional phone.
erick161 said:
Yeah I get lag (keyboard stutter, switching screen lag, launcher lag etc). Its annoying, but once modded, I'll have it taken care of.
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Just as I thought. Flashed this beast finally, and now I'm happy. No lag as of yet. People definitely need to take the plunge if they haven't.
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Jamesyboy said:
The phone isn't the issue...it's the software.
Just look at the size of the latest ICS leak. 1.1* gigs.
Then look at CM9-- 150 megabytes.
There you have it...950 megabytes of crap. Just a few crappy lines of code can bring a phone down to it's knees.
Not to mention, i've seen the fastest phones available brought down to their knees. If you have 9 pages of widgets, don't expect your phone to be blazing. It takes a lot more to run a widget than it does a 4x5 row of static icons. That's sooooo 1995.
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Remember bro- no phone is lag free. Android handles processes EXTREMELY different from IOS.
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I run gb overclocked 1.89 with ghostnote removed no lag
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I will check if the internal space is full. I install all my apps on sd card. After that is lag free.
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Jamesyboy said:
The phone isn't the issue...it's the software.
Just look at the size of the latest ICS leak. 1.1* gigs.
Then look at CM9-- 150 megabytes.
There you have it...950 megabytes of crap. Just a few crappy lines of code can bring a phone down to it's knees.
Not to mention, i've seen the fastest phones available brought down to their knees. If you have 9 pages of widgets, don't expect your phone to be blazing. It takes a lot more to run a widget than it does a 4x5 row of static icons. That's sooooo 1995.
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Really? I'm using onlyone and it was 650mb. I wonder if cm9 is faster is than onlyone.
I am. And here's why:
1. Consistently LOW RAM in ICS, which leads to issues with apps being very sluggish, or sometimes custom wallpapers in Whatsapp/ChompSMS/GoSMS not loading. No such issue in GB. SIM Toolkit takes up 35MB, HDMI takes 50+ MB, etc etc. I usually only have 80-120MB free for apps. A far cry from the 200+ in GB.
2. Low WiFi signal - No such issue in GB.
3. Occasional freeze. No such issue in GB.
I have:
- Done a reset and installed everything from scratch (no improvement)
- Done a clean flash and re-installed everything from scratch (no improvement).
So, back to .75 GB for me.
Try another firmware.
Repair with pcc or sus.
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You're, again, one of the many who is complaining about ICS...
Well if you want to downgrade, that's something you should do. I have to say my experience is just fine. As seen in the screenshot, memory is just fine. SwiftKey is consuming about 60MB of RAM, but besides that there's nothing troubling.
Battery is fine as well. Heavy usage gives me about 17 hours (WhatsApp, GTalk, Browser, Walkman, Google Reader, Facebook, WordFeud).
Also WiFi.. I guess you might be right with that. But I can't say it with certainty, as my WiFi signal has always been low...
I did have to do a complete wipe and remove Google's Backup of my data to make everything work fine.
And here is mine not rooted.
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I was also thinking of downgrading and actually I did and used for couple of days before I decided to try again, which is a great thing I did.
Mine is smooth (well, almost there) besides the Facebook application itself and shuttering music when played through the Bluetooth. Given the fact that this is the first ICS firmware, I'm sure that there will be bug fix soon, but there isn't anything which you can't handle.
I've no launcher re-draws so far, no lags (besides occasional ones in the launcher) and I've more than 70 applications installed and more than two dozen running in the back ground.
If you want to go back, well it's your phone and your choice and no one is stopping you!
ICS had been a great experience for me, much smoother over all, issues with GB have been fixed, stock browser is excellent, speaker during call is loud, much better bluetooth, ICS animations, far better keyboard, contact groups, higher bitrate camera and list goes on.
Issues with memory are redundant, wifi signal might appear lower but I've never had drops and I use hotspot for vpn to work on trips.
Battery life is the same for me 1.5 days with medium use.
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I already downgraded.
I might upgrade again on the weekend with the rooting guide.
The main problem I had with ics is unacceptable battery drain in standby, with root hopefullyi might be able to pin point the cause and fix the issue.
I do hope Sony are aware of the problems and patch them soon, because ics on the xs is pretty damn good and I miss not having it.
upgraded again. Stock ICS Au Generic via PCC.
I now understand why reviews of this phone weren't so great with it running GB. :cyclops:
The battery life on ICS improved a lot after rooting & uninstalling some preinstalled apps. I noticed significant improvement in standby time after uninstalling ANT radio (related services), Update service etc. and many other useless (for me) apps/services which were draining a lot of battery (esp. on standby)! And it also gives a lot of free ram (about 250-350 mb).
ICS has been faster, smoother, better looking (esp small font) without any lags/redraws for me. There are many improved apps and all but also are a few glitches/minor bugs on this ICS build by sony which hopefully shall be fixed soon!
Overall, I would say that ICS is Faster and Cooler than GB, but GB surely is much stable/Reliable wrt current ICS build. I am on CE ICS rom.
Well if you don't mind trying development stuff, there is this custom ROM already out there which has some tweaks and lots of things removed which makes battery life better by removing programs that would otherwise be running in the background and it will also help speed a little.
Even though, it is a custom ROM. But talking about vanilla ICS i think its just as good as GB. Its common for it to use more RAM as most of newer programs do (Like Windows 7 vs Windows XP) or so, but thats just using the resources we got.
On the Linux kernel, free RAM is wasted RAM.
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On the Linux kernel, free RAM is wasted RAM.
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Yes but to cache things you need the RAM in the first place, you can't make it appear out of thin air. Removing some system apps can still help overall.
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gparent said:
Yes but to cache things you need the RAM in the first place, you can't make it appear out of thin air. Removing some system apps can still help overall.
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That's why some tasks are ended for new ones to start
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On the Linux kernel, free RAM is wasted RAM.
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Yes, as you have repeatedly said in multiple threads. However, free RAM on the xps is not wasted, it actually provides a smoother experience and allows Apps to load properly without constant redrawing and cache swapping. It's also not ending tasks for new ones to start as all the system apps which cannot be killed are clogging the ram.
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Yes, as you have repeatedly said in multiple threads. However, free RAM on the xps is not wasted, it actually provides a smoother experience and allows Apps to load properly without constant redrawing and cache swapping. It's also not ending tasks for new ones to start as all the system apps which cannot be killed are clogging the ram.
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I also rolled back to GB. For me ICS is just a hair smoother, but ICS on Galaxy neuxs is way smoother, so i'm not impressed.
LED notification is not working.
So other than that, the whole experience is just very similar to GB if not the same. after rolled back to GB, i don't miss ICS a bit, lol.
for the Free RAM is waste RAM stuff, i don't offense it because it is Linux, but on my ipad3, still 1GB ram, after boot up, it showed 803MB free, and it just works (fast and smooth inside out), but again they are completely different system, can't say which is better, don't comment on multitasking since they both just work.
BUT hey, Xperia launcher used excessive amount of ram but still not smooth in ICS and GB, what are you caching, app performance in GB is just as good as in ICS, everything is fast but not smooth (compare to my gf's lower spec Galaxy nexus). She asked why and insisted i should pick galaxy nexus, i can't say a word, lol. (but i love XS design and HDMI output)
So, if you don't mind GB is older and encounter many problems in ICS, roll back wouldn't hurt you a bit.:laugh:
Do you think there will be any ICS fix from Sony? Becasue toomorrow i am going to buy XS, and i am deciding whether to stay on GB or upgrade to ISC.
Nothing else i care but, wifi signal and camera. I use wifi mostly when i am on my bed, and until now I had always 1/3 signal (HTC Desire S, Xperia U). I am sure on GB it will be the same, but i am afraid what will happen after upgrade on ICS I hope i will not have any problems. What do you think?
And what about camera? Has improved with ICS?
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Do you think there will be any ICS fix from Sony? Becasue toomorrow i am going to buy XS, and i am deciding whether to stay on GB or upgrade to ISC.
Nothing else i care but, wifi signal and camera. I use wifi mostly when i am on my bed, and until now I had always 1/3 signal (HTC Desire S, Xperia U). I am sure on GB it will be the same, but i am afraid what will happen after upgrade on ICS I hope i will not have any problems. What do you think?
And what about camera? Has improved with ICS?
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There is an ics update soon...
Wifi on ics is the same as gb,maybe the icon show less bars but connectivity is the same.
Yes the camera has improved on ics.
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Do you think there will be any ICS fix from Sony? Becasue toomorrow i am going to buy XS, and i am deciding whether to stay on GB or upgrade to ISC.
Nothing else i care but, wifi signal and camera. I use wifi mostly when i am on my bed, and until now I had always 1/3 signal (HTC Desire S, Xperia U). I am sure on GB it will be the same, but i am afraid what will happen after upgrade on ICS I hope i will not have any problems. What do you think?
And what about camera? Has improved with ICS?
there is a new update in line..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1763534
http://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=20799
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Why would you want that instead of the task still running (or being cached rather than killed) because there's enough RAM? Thanks for proving my point.
Not sure if this is just me or everyone, but I noticed that when after flashing a rom and starting blank and fresh with no apps installed and with the HTC Sense pages at default with the preloaded widgets. At this point the whole phone is fast and very snappy and very smooth when swiping between different home screens. Even if you rotate the phone to landscape the phone rotates very fast.
BUT
As soon as I start installing my games and apps from the Play store, the whole phone just doesnt become snappy anymore. With 1GB Ram and Dual Core 1.5 GHz S4 CPU shouldnt the phone stay snappy no matter how many apps you have installed? This seems to be the case for every Sense phone.
It seems like the slow down comes when I start opening a couple apps and customizing the home screens. I tried down grading to 5 screens instead of 7 with a couple widgets such as the weather clock and I have my apps grouped into folders ect. At this point swiping between screens is a little jerky but if I keep swiping it goes back to being smooth.
My previous phones Galaxy Nexus and Galaxy S2 didnt have this problem. I could have all 7 pages maxed out with widgets and apps filling up each page and the phone would remain snappy with no lag.
I never been a fan of the Snap Dragon CPU. I had better experience with Exynos.
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Not sure if this is just me or everyone, but I noticed that when after flashing a rom and starting blank and fresh with no apps installed and with the HTC Sense pages at default with the preloaded widgets. At this point the whole phone is fast and very snappy and very smooth when swiping between different home screens. Even if you rotate the phone to landscape the phone rotates very fast.
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As soon as I start installing my games and apps from the Play store, the whole phone just doesnt become snappy anymore. With 1GB Ram and Dual Core 1.5 GHz S4 CPU shouldnt the phone stay snappy no matter how many apps you have installed? This seems to be the case for every Sense phone.
It seems like the slow down comes when I start opening a couple apps and customizing the home screens. I tried down grading to 5 screens instead of 7 with a couple widgets such as the weather clock and I have my apps grouped into folders ect. At this point swiping between screens is a little jerky but if I keep swiping it goes back to being smooth.
My previous phones Galaxy Nexus and Galaxy S2 didnt have this problem. I could have all 7 pages maxed out with widgets and apps filling up each page and the phone would remain snappy with no lag.
I never been a fan of the Snap Dragon CPU. I had better experience with Exynos.
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i here that bro.. same prob with me phone.. never had that problem with me og evo or my evo 3d through.. just the is phone??
Same here.. I now use Nova Launcher and it's great but I want to use Sense. I don't want to resort to a launcher to get the performance I expect.
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Same here.. I now use Nova Launcher and it's great but I want to use Sense. I don't want to resort to a launcher to get the performance I expect.
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EXACTLY!
Yeah, im aware that I can switch to Nova launcher ect, but if that was the case, I would have kept my Galaxy Nexus. I want to beable to use the nice fancy Sense Widgets but the phone shouldnt have to slow down like it does.
I found this to happen on each rom I been on and I tried just about each of them in the Dev section. I havnt tried %100 stock because, soon as I got the phone I rooted and used a custom rom so im not sure if pure stock has this problem.
Maybe a Dev can chime in with a solution.
I can agree to an extent..no matter what though, this phone will always be faster than a galaxy nexus. (Don't know bout jellybean). That thing stuttered like a mofo when I was testin it.
Anyways, the phone tends to slow down and speed up at will. Could be a combination of cache or resources that sense needs in order for it to run that bogs memory. (Like adding different widgets, apps, etc) Sense just isn't well made like the pure android experience imo. It needs more fluidity within the system to run smoother and this is probably why you experience lag every now and then. Overall, I'm satisfied. It doesn't slow down too much. Still feels like a superior device even with its flaws (sense UI)
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Have you made sure your app/games are installed on your phone storage? I noticed a lot of app tend to use the internal storage.
Internal storage: 2Gb
Phone storage: 10Gb
I'm all stock and don't have any lag!
i noticed that too. my phone seems to be getting slower and slower. my gf's galaxy nexus with jellybean is much faster and smoother than my phone. i can't wait for cm10.
its not your phone, rom or sense. it's the play store. it happens on stock or rooted. even does it on my wife's 3D(stock unrooted). I blame it on when the play store changed over to the format it uses, now. even noticed it on her epic touch before I gave her my 3D. just my opinion I know. otherwise I have no lag.
jbermi said:
its not your phone, rom or sense. it's the play store. it happens on stock or rooted. even does it on my wife's 3D(stock unrooted). I blame it on when the play store changed over to the format it uses, now. even noticed it on her epic touch before I gave her my 3D. just my opinion I know. otherwise I have no lag.
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I'm not sure what it is. All I know my Galaxy Nexus never slowed down with AOKP and CM and my Epic Touch was also always smooth. Can't say that about this phone. The camera is nice and screen is nice but can't say that about this Snap Dragon so far.
Well this damn phone flies with Nova Launcher..HTC should be ashamed of them selves for still continuing to have sense be as slow as it is.
And I'm afraid even project butter in jelly bean won't help because HTC will find a way to slow things down
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I have absolutely no speed decrease what so ever. Stock or Custom Rom. Try uninstalling aps that you don't need system or data. Try locking sense into memory threw bp. That will definitely help IMO. Also how you set your phone up will always play a major role in performance. If anyone wants to know how I run mine to compare to there setup just hit me with a pm. I have over 40 apps installed and I have no lag in anything I do. This phone is a Monster lol. I've had the hero,evo4g,evo3d, and none of them can match the performance of this phone. Just my opinion.
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I have been looking at my girlfriends brand new S3 with stock firmware and i have noticed that ICS is actually smoother than every JB leak i have installed and also smoother than my Omega 26 Rom. My Omega 26 Rom has all of the bloat removed and it doesnt make any difference.
In fact i would go as far to say that hers is smoother than mine!
Im starting to think that all this Rooting and Flashing causes more problems than it might solve!
Smoothness doesn't necessarily mean speed though
Eg. Reset transition speeds to 1 if you have them on 0.5 is a good way of demonstrating what I mean
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Smoothness doesn't necessarily mean speed though
Eg. Reset transition speeds to 1 if you have them on 0.5 is a good way of demonstrating what I mean
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Thought I'd find you lurking around here spouting 8ollox.....
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irzero said:
I have been looking at my girlfriends brand new S3 with stock firmware and i have noticed that ICS is actually smoother than every JB leak
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I've noticed the exact opposite. My girlfriend's phone seems so sluggish with stock ICS compared with my JB ROM. I think JB has been really snappy since at least LI6.
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I have been looking at my girlfriends brand new S3 with stock firmware and i have noticed that ICS is actually smoother than every JB leak i have installed and also smoother than my Omega 26 Rom. My Omega 26 Rom has all of the bloat removed and it doesnt make any difference.
In fact i would go as far to say that hers is smoother than mine!
Im starting to think that all this Rooting and Flashing causes more problems than it might solve!
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I kinda get what youre saying. I have 3 devices on which I have the new cm10, dli8 and lh1. LH1 wins in all categories except for jellybean smootness of the dli8 leak. ICS is still king.
remember, these are still leaks, may still be bugs...
No. The jellybean is smoother. And cm10 is waaaay faster
People just have different ideas of smoothness. Some people think the Galaxy Nexus with Jelly Bean is smoother than the GS3 with ICS, not a chance, Some stupid people even think that the Iphone 3Gs is smoother than the GS3, which is just plain retarded. Some people think that the iphone 4 and 4s kill even the high end Androids in smoothness, wrong again. Some people think that sense 4.0 isn't a stuttery mess and that the One X is actually close in performance to the GS3, you guessed it, wrong.
Just go with your eyes.
If i were to hazard a guess. AOSP probably has about 30 frames of animation that just cycle every half a second, locked at 60fps. While touchwiz has like 40 frames of animation or more that is usually locked 60fps but not always like JB. So yeah, during the times that ICS touchwiz is at 60 fps, it should appear smoother.
Basically if ICS doesn't drop below 60fps or have memory que issues then technically we wouldn't see project butter. We don't even technically see it. We only notice it when the system chugs, and if project butter kicks in properly, we won't even see that. lol
Well its subjective, you need to ask yourself what do you mean by smoothness? For me its fast respons when opening apps and having no lag or stutterings. For this JB leak li8 does the job
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people keep raving about how smooth the iphone is but it's noticeably slower than android, esp the high end ones.. the smoothness is just there to cover the lags
I have owned 5 iPhone's and I can tell you now that ios strongest point is the consistently fast transitions. You can move around the OS 10x faster than android. Android is filled with loads of pointless animations and transitions that just make it slower.
I found my problem to be a widget called application manager. It caused a stutter in my transition from Page to Page. I minimised this and now it's smooth.
But I'd still argue that there is no difference between my girlfriends ICS and my JB
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