Hey Guys!
This thread is basically there to announce, that i will stop with baby modding
There are a few things i will tell you
1st: I will STOP with develop UMX-Android for CM7!
2nd: I will recreate UMX-Android COMLETELY new!
3rd: UMX-Android will be based on "OWN COMPILED CM9"!
4th: It's my first try to compile, so don't be afraid if everything takes longer than planned!
5rd: UMX-Android won't be based on this Colorful theme from now on!
A few answers to the questions you might ask:
"Why do you stop development with CM7?"
-Because CM7 get's old, a little bit to old for me personally...
"Why don't you develop with CM10 or CM10.1?"
-Because i have the felling, that when android gets a version higher, it needs 50mb more ram to work fine! I will !!!TRY!!! to tune up CM9 so heavy, that it will be as smooth as jelly bean on SII or something like that(not really but i try to get it as fast as i can...). As well there are no official 4.1 OMX libs for armv6, even with good porting, i'm afraid that everything will not work as nice as official
"That's again any from these phrases which you tell us everyday..."
-No, i will stop with this baby modding, and if i'm to dummy to compile a at first booting up rom, i will stop with develop completely(maybe )
If you got more questions, just ask i will tell you everything about my plans more infos will come in this hread soon
Bye,
Glenn Töws(aka GlenniBoy)
Was this worth a whole new thread?
Maybe yes, maybe not, i've simply did it that everybody can see this because i think that many people think i'm a nooby developer and i just want to say that i want to start with a new world of development(for me personally)
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Hi , lot of developper Jerpelea , Zdzihu & TripNRaVeRs and i dont forget Binary & Maxrfon & goroh "
try hardly to put custom rom for our X10 ,
strategy : why focusing on 2.2 or 2.1 AOSP : 2.3.1 is more attractive we have a lot of delay stop viewing the past :
Synergy : each developer work hard but alone "not enough fast" maybe the creation of one Dev-team & one project " avoid the personal conflicts" is a better way to escape from SE Curse they develop 2.1 and 2.2 is already in the Market
PS: i am very proud by our Devs , I only think that 1+1+1+1 ..... is better than BIG One
its a democracy but consensus is better
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agree with u , all of them are proffisor alone but if thy work together we don`t know what they can do !
I support your initiative. I would love to have ONE great ROM (with full hardware support) rather than several "half implemented" ROMs like we have today.
IMO most developers here prefer to work alone (don't know if it's related to donations...), but it's really easy to see that if all of them join a single project we would definetly have a better and more optimized ROM.
One good thing is that Google seems to slow down the new major releases to two a year, so our developers will also have more time to debug and keep up.
I can only assume that they have put a lot of time looking at and understanding how the previous versions run, now they have an understanding they are putting it to good use and developing us a custom rom free of charge. To inhance our phones
I dare say they are probably looking at the gingerbread stuff now but you can only you can only do what you can do, there is no point stopping a development everytime new software came out because that way you would never have anything finished.
Patience is key, these guys do have lives, there is a order to everything and just because you dont understand it doesnt mean it is wrong
the dev's are amazing and i wish i had the knowledge to help more, icecream is coming out in the summer will the devs be expected to down tools and move on from gingerbread then?
just be patient and let the devs do their magic
My (limited) understanding is that since the bootloader is still locked, they are developing these custom ROMs on the existing 2.1 kernel that SE has put out for the X10. That means that certain core components are Android 2.1, and can't be replaced without bootloader access.
As such, it makes sense that the further an OS version is from 2.1, the more likely it is that it will require specific features not available in the 2.1 kernel.
So developing stock 2.1 for the X10 would be easiest, 2.2 would be more difficult, 2.3 even moreso, and so on.
maybe its true but developing 2.1 AOSP or 2.1 with sense take a ot of time and confir the stupid idea from SE Eclair 2.1 plus SE soft is better than Froyo ,
Creating a team will reduce time of developement and may be improve the quality of the rom build , my idea it just to say that and unify the X10 community in supporting one effective project thant wasting a lot of creativity & effort in incomplete work its easy to say the difficulty is to DOING the Job
Just a little bit of insight here from someone who isn't a developer of ROMS....
I agree that combining their efforts would most likely give us better results with regards to hardware. Here's what I think may be happening. Now that they're able to create functioning ROMs, they're each taking the time to hammer out their skills. When you learn something new, you generally spend your time redoing the same thing over and over until you've got it down pat.
That being said, they're each learning more and more as they attempt new ROMs. I think once the fascination of "Hey I got a working port of *this* ROM first!" wears off, maybe they'll work together to create a fully functioning ROM. Who knows, one of them may actually sit still for a moment and finish up one of their own ROMs.
I hope that all of the developers working on different ROMs at the very least keep a line of communication open between them so as to share fixes and work arounds.
speaking of GB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=911364
Yes! I Agree With You!!!!
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I love all the dev here, but i too just don't get it..
either i get a working camera or working wifi ? Come ON...
i hope you guys see this posts as friendly talk, we are so lucky that we have all of you here you all understand the need of one functional AOSP Rom 2.2, 2.3 whatever
I feel the same way maybe the devs should team up and create a monster ROM that works.
I agree. It's been proven time and time again, teams work better than individuals. Please unite Devs! Think of what could be accomplished
I havn't even tested a ROM yet since their all incomplete, simple as that.
All the different ideas and "wishes" posted on this thread are of course appealing but until the bootloader is cracked it's practically impossible to have a fully working ROM on any other version other than the 2.1, at least from a short term perspective.
Correct me if im wrong, but from my understanding they started to work with 2.1 just to make it simpler to mod the code to 2.2 later.
The reason is that SE have released some code for 2.1, but of course not for 2.2. So they used SEs 2.1 code to develop the 2.1 AOSP rom. And could therefore much easier convert the code to 2.2.
It seems like you guys haven't been paying attention to dev work for the x10. Maybe it's because you didn't lurk the sub-forum since the beginning or maybe you don't understand what the devs are actually doing.
The devs ARE working together. jerpelea, zdzidu, bin4ry, goro-kun, maxfron, and many others DO communicate.
What one person said about having 2.2+ functions are strictly related to the kernal and bootloaders is the final word. Sony implemented special drivers for the camera and video decoding.
Until someone writes the drivers from scratch AND unlock the bootloader, we will have less than 100% functioning 2.2+ roms.
on that 2.3.1 HTC rom camera is working ... if they can get the BT and Wifi working it will be awesome . but i have a question . will we get the (MT) on these roms after SE release? i mean for 2.2 and 2.3
robbyf66 said:
I havn't even tested a ROM yet since their all incomplete, simple as that.
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Yep.
Me neither.
And only because the camera and HD are not working
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on that 2.3.1 HTC rom camera is working ... if they can get the BT and Wifi working it will be awesome . but i have a question . will we get the (MT) on these roms after SE release? i mean for 2.2 and 2.3
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The htc rom mentioned by you is 2.1. That thread is for 2 roms. 2.1 htc and gingerbread. So no, camera is not working on 2.2+ yet. Z got some progress making the camera atleast respond, but so far, if he implements full camera function, he looses other key functions in the rom. Not a good trade.
Sent from my x10 running 2.2
No pressrue on the devs and they can do what they please with their work. But as other have said it sounds like a great idea. Any devs care to comment on this idea?
Sent from my X10a using XDA App
First,I'm sorry for my poor English.I just have a question about the HWA of cm10.As we all know,we have the su660's kernel source code,but we still can't have the HWA.Once I used the defy which used the old kernel but still could have the HWA.I know the defy uses other phone's drives,so why the A4 can't?Lg su660 has the same CPU as A4.Maybe I shoule be patient,but I really want to use chrome.The chrome is so fast and beautiful,and I really love it.What's more,can epinter post a thread which introduce the progress of building the new kernel?
There are way too many threads/posts on this already, one more thread is really not needed.
Everybody wants HWA, everybody is impatient and pushy about it, and that only produces countereffects. Be patient, quit asking, it'll happen when it happens. Or give it a shot yourself. We all have the same resources available.
Thread closed in light of the above statement.
As the title says, is there no developer interested in porting PACman to this phon, not to be disrespectfull or anything cause i really apreciate the work and time you are givind to this phone, but I'm kinda angry when i see that even my dad's phone (HTC Desire HD) has android 4.2.2 PACman, and most other phones for that matter, and this phone didnt even have android 4,1,2 or 4.2.1 PACman, I meant i know there was a Paranoid build, but Paranoid Android is missing too many features i need (or want) from AOKP and CM (like lockscreen shortcuts), so my question is if isn't there any developer working or porting PACman to this phone, or at least adding Paranoid Settings to one of the allready existing AOKP or CM roms?
The devs get requests like this every day. I think it's a little unfair, devs are people too, they have lives, jobs and families just like us. Still they have brought us many roms. And they promise even more like ubuntu os. I think we should all be grateful for what we have. And if a dev does decide to port one of our favourite roms.... Bonus . If not, maybe it's time to do a little research on rom development, maybe try building a rom. If a dev see's "a normal" user putting alof of effort into a certain project, theres more chance they will step in and try to help
Sent from my HTC One X+ using Tapatalk 2
honestly Pacman is not worth doing.... it creates issues with other devs apps on the market, and i honestly don't fancy getting the rage from app devs
-Lloir
AndroHero said:
The devs get requests like this every day. I think it's a little unfair, devs are people too, they have lives, jobs and families just like us. Still they have brought us many roms. And they promise even more like ubuntu os. I think we should all be grateful for what we have. And if a dev does decide to port one of our favourite roms.... Bonus . If not, maybe it's time to do a little research on rom development, maybe try building a rom. If a dev see's "a normal" user putting alof of effort into a certain project, theres more chance they will step in and try to help
Sent from my HTC One X+ using Tapatalk 2
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lol, first as I tryed to say it was not a request, more of a question if its comeing or not, and also i allready tryed to build my own rom, did a try with something easyer, and i was thinking i learned all i needed and downloaded the sources for cm9 and then tryed and it took me 5 days to manage to figure out how to get it build a flashable zip, cause it wouldnt build a zip file (not talking about this phone, and was long ago for my dads htc desire hd), and after that it ofc failed when i flashed it as in 1st i forgot to sign it and it didnt flash, then i did sign it and flashed, then flashed boot.img and ofc got a fail, wouldnt even get after the htc boot screen, so yah, if i could belive me i would try to build PACman, atm i only know the basic android things, like decompiling, compiling, smaling, backsmaling and signing apks, dont even remember how and what i did in my try to build cm9, and yah, im preety sure id fail again, plus at the time i tryed that i had a bit of time, now i have exams every week, so i totally understand the devs are bussy people and as i sayd or at least tryeing to say this was a question and not a request, i can live without it, even if i will silently hope it will happen one day
Lloir said:
honestly Pacman is not worth doing.... it creates issues with other devs apps on the market, and i honestly don't fancy getting the rage from app devs
-Lloir
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I dont really understand what you are trying to say, you meant some apps are not working on PACman, cause thats what I understand, also sorry for takeing your time?
EDIT: NVM this question/request, i just found the xposed framework and the xposed app settings and those make exactly what i want, im so happy now, for those that want to know what im talking about: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401 (for the xposed framework) and http://www.villainrom.co.uk/forum/threads/xposed-app-settings.5486/ (for the app settings)
i had always meant to do some developing but the drop in activity i realized when i moved from the sensation to the rezound really compelled me to start plus i have some work that i really have to do and really dont want to do so you know how it goes. Anyway to it
i started by googling how to build android roms which lead me to xda university giving me a nice expaination as to the various parts of android which i was already familliar
another search lead me to the offical how to build android from source page. i had a few concerns so i thaught i would ask here
i have knowlage building various web applications(php,js,ect) and not the let the fromework so this for me kinda apps i like thinking and innovating. i have a little experience with c++(i was at the stage of learning a gui when my old laptop crashed) so i think i have atleast good enough programming experience to catch on to java at a nice pace. Am currently reading and following googles nice little guid on developing android. Am in the process of setting up work envo (already got ubuntu 12.04 up). and thaught i would just leave a post here to see if anyone had any advice for me?
what i wanna do is be able to port for us,build original roms AOSP they call it for us, build and or port sense roms for us and eventually get to the point where i can get us sense5 or help neo(or any other dev) help us get sense 5. oh and i think i would like to build/modify kernels as well. oh oh and being able to invent exploits to get root or s-off for devices i might get in the future.
Question: while i was reading i was seeing where the buiding process was doing alot of synceing with google servers ect. i dont actually want to submit whatever garbage i might write to them while am testing so im still on the right track following the guid here correcto??
short version: I wanna build android custom roms ect not just edit files and put it out am i on the right tract following the guid here (i already know a lil programming)? http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html
any advice/resources/links welcomed
oki am on the page that says "building and running" i dont see anything for our device am guessing thats because development from aosp has stopped for us and thats where ppl like neo and cyanogen make thier magic. what is the next tut or read for me?
Try this. You could always pull Neo's CM 10.2 repos instead of the 10.1.
http://signatures.mobile-overload.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/sig-cm-5.png
Hi Guys
This one thought has been going through my head all day and all yesterday, and when I say it to people with android device which is custom ROMed or rooted, they have a little chuckle.
Now don't get me wrong, I love that the desire X has a development team for ROMs and what not, and I love every one of them (xpirt, atis112, MaartenXDA, neXus PRIME and whoever else I missed), but I can't help but think this is what they think
"Alright it boots... lets do something else"
Love you all <3
iTz.Ranga said:
Hi Guys
This one thought has been going through my head all day and all yesterday, and when I say it to people with android device which is custom ROMed or rooted, they have a little chuckle.
Now don't get me wrong, I love that the desire X has a development team for ROMs and what not, and I love every one of them (xpirt, atis112, MaartenXDA, neXus PRIME and whoever else I missed), but I can't help but think this is what they think
"Alright it boots... lets do something else"
Love you all <3
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That's not true at all.
First of all, only one of the people you mentioned is a "recognized developer" and he is in school busy with studies. Dont expect him to work full time.
Secondly, I was a learner for just about everything but became RC here on desire x, not before. (Although you missed prototype, and xpirt and Maarten also fall in the same category, even higher then me, i guess.)
Thirdly,
you people got these fully working things
1. CWM
2. TOUCH CWM
3. TWRP
4. FULL SENSE 4+
5. AOSP MODS and ALL OTHER MODS
6. Custom Kernels (LOTS OF THEM, with unique)
7. MIUI (sense-based)
8. and many many many things i missed. (special mention to sense 5, apart from BT bug, which will get fix soon)
Above were almost fully functioning products. Now lets mention the rest.
1. CM9
2. CM10
3. AOKP-ICS
4. AOKP-JB
5. PARANOID
6. CM10.2
and many more i must have forgotten.
All of above was done by 1 dev, and others good at porting and compiling. Thats more than you should expect.
Your thread is not the first one like this. Sometimes people show amazement at slow pace, some show sadness, others are ruthlessly blunt and rude. I understand that. But what we need are more people willing to learn the stuff.
Everyone will work what they like... if i want sweep2wake on my phone, i dont care how many others want overclock or undervolt, i'll concentrate on it. and when i start work, i'll get plenty of help from other communities as well.
I hope you get my point.... for future reference, whenever someone opens this kind of thread, i'll copy paste this same post....
Or i'll ask a MOD to make this a sticky.:silly:
Regards
Yasir
neXus PRIME said:
That's not true at all.
Or i'll ask a MOD to make this a sticky.:silly:
Regards
Yasir
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Look at this from another point of view, if you'd be the developer,
sometimes you'd be getting pissed when you try to bring something to work,
but it won't work after you've spent 3-4 nights, lets say a week at it.
They need variety too!
fixing bugs isn't just like catching them
PS: bring your own ROM to boot before you try to judge
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PS: bring your own ROM to boot before you try to judge
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Not being an ass or anything but that part was really pointless. If he/she could have made Roms they would do so.
And as for others that keep asking questions like this should really just buy another phone. And use Roms on that.
Cake...
neXus PRIME said:
I hope you get my point.... for future reference, whenever someone opens this kind of thread, i'll copy paste this same post....
Or i'll ask a MOD to make this a sticky.:silly:
Regards
Yasir
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oho yasir bhaye, full time bharam
@iTz.Ranga if you have problem with devs then why don't you start your own development of a rom? I don't think so its hard enough or impossible.
dominos_liberty said:
@iTz.Ranga if you have problem with devs then why don't you start your own development of a rom? I don't think so its hard enough or impossible.
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I'm sure he didn't mean that he has a "problem" with the devs (and other contributors). More like wanting to know why so many roms are seemingly discontinued before reaching stability. And the simple answer is that these roms (PACman, AOKP, etc) are CM-based, so they cannot be stable until we have a stable CM rom
But attempting your own rom is also a good suggestion. I'm gonna experiment with some development/porting after exams, though right now the only experience with programming I have is web/database/object orientated (VB, ASP.net, SQL, etc)
Hope it's not too hard.
Hi.
iTz.Ranga said:
Hi Guys
This one thought has been going through my head all day and all yesterday, and when I say it to people with android device which is custom ROMed or rooted, they have a little chuckle.
Now don't get me wrong, I love that the desire X has a development team for ROMs and what not, and I love every one of them (xpirt, atis112, MaartenXDA, neXus PRIME and whoever else I missed), but I can't help but think this is what they think
"Alright it boots... lets do something else"
Love you all <3
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No. Pfffftt... Yeah you're right "Alriight it boots.... (Except you got the next statement wrong) lets go fix the bugs before we do something else" and NeXus Prime is right, almost most of the ROMs here are done by one dev Sense 5, Full Sense 4.1 and 4+. CM 10.2, MIUI, PA and more
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So there is a member with one post deciding he has to judge the developers on this forum. That is exactly what we were waiting for...
This thread is extremely disrespectful and we can easily do without it. If you don't like the roms the devs offer here, proceed to make your own.
If you can't, just take what is offered or move on.