Just ordered my DNA. Where I live the closest Verizon radio tower is about an hour round trip drive. It's the only way I can activate devices. On my X2 I could flash to my heart's content and it would keep my activation, however if I sbf'd (Motorola's version of ruu) I would lose activation. Luckily I could just bypass it, root and flash an activated backup, then continue to flash whatever.
So before I start going flash happy I was hoping someone can fill me in. Do you have to reactivate after flashing a ROM? If I restore an activated backup will it "reactivate"? Is there a way to bypass the activation prompt?
Thanks in advance.
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Just ordered my DNA. Where I live the closest Verizon radio tower is about an hour round trip drive. It's the only way I can activate devices. On my X2 I could flash to my heart's content and it would keep my activation, however if I sbf'd (Motorola's version of ruu) I would lose activation. Luckily I could just bypass it, root and flash an activated backup, then continue to flash whatever.
So before I start going flash happy I was hoping someone can fill me in. Do you have to reactivate after flashing a ROM? If I restore an activated backup will it "reactivate"? Is there a way to bypass the activation prompt?
Thanks in advance.
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If you are just flashing a room then you have nothing to worry about
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If you are just flashing a room then you have nothing to worry about
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Awesome, how about after unlocking?
Edit: I went ahead and unlocked, no problems. I did not have to reactivate.
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I don't have my computer up now but are they a another way to root with out using computer can you guys help me out thanks
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Not at this time , you have to connect your phone to your computer to run the root program.
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thunderboltman said:
I don't have my computer up now but are they a another way to root with out using computer can you guys help me out thanks
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Friends family no one has a computer?
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Thanks for your help
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Keep your fingers crossed that HTCdev site adds the Thunderbolt in the future, you may want to hit up craigslist and look up Thunderbolt in or near where you live. I know here in Arizona you can pay someone around 20 to 30 bucks and have them root it for you. Make sure they use the long root since I have heard bad things about one click devices having to do with the Thunderbolt. Good luck.
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Thanks for your help
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Keep your fingers crossed that HTCdev site adds the Thunderbolt in the future, you may want to hit up craigslist and look up Thunderbolt in or near where you live. I know here in Arizona you can pay someone around 20 to 30 bucks and have them root it for you. Make sure they use the long root since I have heard bad things about one click devices having to do with the Thunderbolt. Good luck.
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If your talking about HTC adding the thunderbolt to the bootloader unlocking site, then you must realize that it doesn't root your phone. It only unlocks the bootloader, and in turn void your warranty (don't think they won't flag your device when you use their tool).
Sure you'll be able to download a rooted RUU and flash it via hboot, and this might open the doors for a one click root app if your bootloader is already unlocked, but is that worth your warranty?
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Oh I am sure they will come up with someway to keep track of the phone that do unlock, that is why I will continue to use the unlock method through ADB and the great hackers of android. Then when the phone takes a dump, I wont know where I left it and file a lost phone claim and attempt to fix it with all my might to have parts or a spare phone.
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If your talking about HTC adding the thunderbolt to the bootloader unlocking site, then you must realize that it doesn't root your phone. It only unlocks the bootloader, and in turn void your warranty (don't think they won't flag your device when you use their tool).
Sure you'll be able to download a rooted RUU and flash it via hboot, and this might open the doors for a one click root app if your bootloader is already unlocked, but is that worth your warranty?
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Oh I am sure they will come up with someway to keep track of the phone that do unlock, that is why I will continue to use the unlock method through ADB and the great hackers of android. Then when the phone takes a dump, I wont know where I left it and file a lost phone claim and attempt to fix it with all my might to have parts or a spare phone.
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Solid plan. Always good to do things manually so if something messes up, you might know where and why it messed up, and how to fix it.
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I just bought a Thunderbolt, and decided to root and try some ROMs out before deciding to make it my daily driver.
Now that I'm ready, I need to take it into Verizon to get a SIM card, and need to know if I need to unroot it, or if I can just flash a Sense ROM (doubt any Verizon employee would know the difference).
Thanks!
ejsholly said:
I just bought a Thunderbolt, and decided to root and try some ROMs out before deciding to make it my daily driver.
Now that I'm ready, I need to take it into Verizon to get a SIM card, and need to know if I need to unroot it, or if I can just flash a Sense ROM (doubt any Verizon employee would know the difference).
Thanks!
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I had lots of problems when I tried activating while I was rooted. I had to unroot, lock the bootloader, and have a Verizon tech do a master reset on the phone to get it to activate.
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I had lots of problems when I tried activating while I was rooted. I had to unroot, lock the bootloader, and have a Verizon tech do a master reset on the phone to get it to activate.
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Is there any way I can perform this master reset myself?
No. You have to be on the phone with the tech and do a factory reset at the same time. You should first try to go back to stock and activate it normally. You will need a new sim probably.
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I took a rooted HTC TBolt that was loaned to me into the Verizon store a few weeks ago to have it activated. I did get a lecture about how the warranty was voided by rooting (it wasn't under warranty any longer anyway), but they activated it no problem.
I traded a Droid charge for my tbolt and called support and had it switched to my account. It was s-off and rooted and it worked just fine. I know its a little different than op but i think you will be okay.
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I recently sold my thunderbolt that was flashed and activated to page plus, all i changed when i activated it on page plus was the MIN and similar numbers like the addresses. The person tried to activate it with verizon but it didn't work and they tried 5 different sim cards and it still didn't work. What is the reason? I reset the phone back to factory setting but never got a chance to change any of the info back to normal like the MIN, PRL, etc. What I also did was change the EVDO settings to the [email protected]. Could any of this be a problem with it being activated back on verizon?
EDIT: I've looked and people talked about using RSD or putting the latest RUU back and it should be able to get activated easily? Wished i did this before so i wouldn't have to refund the buyer.
He will need to get a new Sim, call Verizon and tell them he needs a master reset. I had the same problem with my bolt because the guy I got it from was on page plus and not matter what they did it wouldn't show my phone number. It would help if you put it back to stock unrooted first.
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He will need to get a new Sim, call Verizon and tell them he needs a master reset. I had the same problem with my bolt because the guy I got it from was on page plus and not matter what they did it wouldn't show my phone number. It would help if you put it back to stock unrooted first.
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Yea the buyer caught me off guard with the quick buy so I couldn't do what I wanted exactly before selling it so i took the dive anyways. But they told me they can't even get it to activate and tried 5 different SIMs. It wouldn't work at all. Is this what happened to you? I was looking around and there's RUU files that can put the thunderbolt back to factory settings including the flashed information. What does the Master Reset at verizon do? Basically like the RUU option right and not like a factory reset like i did?
I used an ruu to go back to stock. It took me almost a week to get a tech to do the reset. They don't like to do them because it is possible to get a bad ESN phone on the network this way. You need too let them know that you are rooted and also tell them that the phone was being used on another network before you got it. The warranty is void anyway so it doesn't matter if they know. Just talk to customer service and tell the tech you need a level 3 or a supervisor. Explain to them what is happening and they can help I promise.
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I used an ruu to go back to stock. It took me almost a week to get a tech to do the reset. They don't like to do them because it is possible to get a bad ESN phone on the network this way. You need too let them know that you are rooted and also tell them that the phone was being used on another network before you got it. The warranty is void anyway so it doesn't matter if they know. Just talk to customer service and tell the tech you need a level 3 or a supervisor. Explain to them what is happening and they can help I promise.
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Thanks! So the RUU won't get it back to be ready to activate on verizon just from that? You still need to ask a tech to do a master reset?
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Thanks! So the RUU won't get it back to be ready to activate on verizon just from that? You still need to ask a tech to do a master reset?
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Yes because Verizon can only strip the page plus number from their system using a master reset. I only suggest going back to stock because they will ask you to do a factory reset. This is a part of their process and you have to do it.
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Yes because Verizon can only strip the page plus number from their system using a master reset. I only suggest going back to stock because they will ask you to do a factory reset. This is a part of their process and you have to do it.
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Makes sense, thanks! I didn't think it would be a problem going back to verizon since page plus shares the same network. Anyways the buyer decided to ask verizon to send a new 4g sim card and she'll try again later in the week. I'll go ahead and tell her if it doesn't work explain to them that the phone needs a master reset since it was used on another network. Hopefully it'll be smooth.
Np. It should work unless Verizon black listed the phone.
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Np. It should work unless Verizon black listed the phone.
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Hmm.. The buyer got a new sim card and tried again but said it still didn't activate.. Apparently they even resetted it and it still didn't work. ESN is clean and I had it on page plus so it's not black listed
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I bought a DNA used off eBay. It came to me with the bootloader unlocked and s off. I toss my SIM card in and it connects to 3g fine, but 4g refuses to even try and come up. Troubleshooting steps taken below:
1. Switched from the sense 5 Rom that was installed to viper, no go
2. Flash the newest radio, no go
3. Try global mode, cdma/LTE mode, LTE only mode, no go
4. Flash a stock rooted Rom, no go
5. New SIM from Verizon store, no go
6. Swap Sims with a co workers DNA (which has 4g), his DNA gets 4g with my SIM but I don't get 4g with his.
7. Try to RUU, it keeps telling me installed software is 2.06, errors out with error 158, no go.
Any other ideas? I might just return it to the eBay seller.
Is there a limitation to using the RUU? Do you have to be on 1.15 everything to use it?
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Is there a limitation to using the RUU? Do you have to be on 1.15 everything to use it?
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No, with being s off you should be able to use any ruu
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Have you tried dashing boot image separate just a idea
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Have you tried dashing boot image separate just a idea
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Not sure what that means. I'm coming from a droid 4 which was limited to pretty much just flashing roms, so this is my 1st real experience with flashing radios/kernels/hboots etc. He was previously using it on T-Mobile, but I don't see how that would effect anything. The seller agreed to take it back for a full refund, but I'm willing to try a few more things before I ship it back (unless it risks bricking)
EDIT: I'm retarded. You mean flash the boot image separately? Yeah I tried that with the DNA toolkit as well as manually. Fastboot crashes with the toolkit, and doing it manually with fastboot gives me errors. I think there is just something wrong with the phone. I've tinkered with a GNex before with fastboot and had no issues flashing anything.
Try an app from the playstore that turns off an on different parts of the radio. You can specifically choose just LTE. If it turn on its the software, if not, (obviously) it's the hardware
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Try an app from the playstore that turns off an on different parts of the radio. You can specifically choose just LTE. If it turn on its the software, if not, (obviously) it's the hardware
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I had tried from the phone settings menu, whatever one the LTE On/Off app brings you to and no dice. It just sits at disconnected.
The settings are very limited. I had a similar problem, and I downloaded the lte on/off app by "tapbase" and I was able to discover that my lte radio works afterall. Try it, its free.
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7. Try to RUU, it keeps telling me installed software is 2.06, errors out with error 158, no go.
Any other ideas? I might just return it to the eBay seller.
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The H-boot on the phone has to match the H-boot of the RUU The old H-boots and radios are posted elsewhere in the forum
I'm having the exact same problem with an Ebay phone! I've tried a new SIM, a few ROMs, and upgraded the radio.
Hope I'm not off topic or breaking any rules so in the event I might please pm me op. I might have a different suggestion all together.
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Hope I'm not off topic or breaking any rules so in the event I might please pm me op. I might have a different suggestion all together.
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Thanks for the help but I was able to get a full refund from the seller. There is someone else in the the thread who is having the exact same problem so maybe he wants to PM you.
You need to use a brand new sim from a vzw store. Take it up to the store and you will be good. Fixed my friends at least. He tried my working SIM to and he only had 3g
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You need to use a brand new sim from a vzw store. Take it up to the store and you will be good. Fixed my friends at least. He tried my working SIM to and he only had 3g
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Worked for me. I used my nexus for a while and if screwed my SIM up somehow for my DNA. New sim will more thab likely fix it. It did for me
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I was having the same problem as the OP. I tried a new SIM too. I ended up having to lock the bootloader, return the phone completely to stock, and then accept the latest OTA update. After that, I was able to get 4G. Then I unlocked the phone again, put a TWRP recovery on, and then I flashed a Sense 5 M7 ROM. It kept 4G! This has been a real pain-in-the-butt process, but it worked.
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Worked for me. I used my nexus for a while and if screwed my SIM up somehow for my DNA. New sim will more thab likely fix it. It did for me
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I was having the same problem as the OP. I tried a new SIM too. I ended up having to lock the bootloader, return the phone completely to stock, and then accept the latest OTA update. After that, I was able to get 4G. Then I unlocked the phone again, put a TWRP recovery on, and then I flashed a Sense 5 M7 ROM. It kept 4G! This has been a real pain-in-the-butt process, but it worked.
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This process worked for me too. It didn't work until doing the OTA. Thanks!
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The H-boot on the phone has to match the H-boot of the RUU The old H-boots and radios are posted elsewhere in the forum
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There is all the radios and hboot where each update.
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I am trying to purchase a verizon note 2 from a guy, but he used it in Guam on IT&E telecom. He had to change the SPC and used it solely on CDMA while there. I'm trying to get it to work back on the VZW 4g network, but can't find a great guide on getting it back....
Can anyone help point me in the right direction to get it to recognize the verizon network again? Putting a SIM in just sits at the activate screen and never activates..
Verizon checked the ESN and it is clean.
Thanks
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I am trying to purchase a verizon note 2 from a guy, but he used it in Guam on IT&E telecom. He had to change the SPC and used it solely on CDMA while there. I'm trying to get it to work back on the VZW 4g network, but can't find a great guide on getting it back....
Can anyone help point me in the right direction to get it to recognize the verizon network again? Putting a SIM in just sits at the activate screen and never activates..
Verizon checked the ESN and it is clean.
Thanks
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Did you set it to lte/cdma under mobile networks? Just making sure.
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don't have the phone in hand (didnt want to buy without a guarantee it would work).
I'm supposed to meet up with the guy later and that's what I'm going to check. If it is set to that... what is the next step?
Thanks
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Did you set it to lte/cdma under mobile networks? Just making sure.
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don't have the phone in hand (didnt want to buy without a guarantee it would work).
I'm supposed to meet up with the guy later and that's what I'm going to check. If it is set to that... what is the next step?
Thanks
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I wish I could help you more bit that's the only thing I can think of. Me personally I would just take it to Verizon. If it has a clean esn they should be able to activate it.
By the way when you meet up, it's under settings/more settings/mobile networks/network mode.
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joshm.1219 said:
I wish I could help you more bit that's the only thing I can think of. Me personally I would just take it to Verizon. If it has a clean esn they should be able to activate it.
By the way when you meet up, it's under settings/more settings/mobile networks/network mode.
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No worries, thank you, I didn't think to check that the other day... I did take it to a corp verizon store the other day, they checked the ESN, but they no longer do in store tech support, so they couldn't reflash/whatever needed to be done. the guy just kept burning SIM cards trying to get it to activate and it wouldn't...
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No worries, thank you, I didn't think to check that the other day... I did take it to a corp verizon store the other day, they checked the ESN, but they no longer do in store tech support, so they couldn't reflash/whatever needed to be done. the guy just kept burning SIM cards trying to get it to activate and it wouldn't...
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All you have to do is odin back to stock and it will be on stock verizon with all of the necessary apns and libs.
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All you have to do is odin back to stock and it will be on stock verizon with all of the necessary apns and libs.
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Ah OK. Have you gone thru this before? Had some say that if it has a different boot loader flashed as well Odin could brick it.
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Ah OK. Have you gone thru this before? Had some say that if it has a different boot loader flashed as well Odin could brick it.
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If it has the latest update, VRAMC3, then all you have to do is flash the Root66 or alternate recovery ROM. If that doesn't fix it I would suggest flashing Root66 with the NAND Earase checked.
If its on VRALJB or VRALL4 then you can flash the VRALJB or VRALL4 .tar's in Odin and be done with it.
You need to read Droidstyles guide in the Android Development section, it will explain everything you need to know about going back to stock, its in section 1B I believe.
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Ah OK. Have you gone thru this before? Had some say that if it has a different boot loader flashed as well Odin could brick it.
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As long as it is indeed a verizon note 2 flashed to another carrier then odin will get you what you want.
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