Ok so i have had this phone since it came out. I love it however i feel there is some dead space on all sides of the screen. Its not always there but its there a lot. It gets me killed in games and makes dragging from one screen to another difficult. Do others feel the same. I will post a picture of it in action in a minute using the developer options.
Here it is. Notice the side of the screen not getting input.
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Ye I was messen with the dev option the other nite n noticed I feel jipped....not really sxreens big enuff as is
Yeah that is very easy to see when you enable the touch locations in debugging.
Hmm. Dunno. At first I thought it was my case getting in the way but nope it's definitely not that. Just dead zone.
I played with the dev options touch tracks. If you are swiping the pen onto the screen it looks like there is a slight delay, but if I draw lines from the center out at all angles it seems to take me all the way to the edge most of the time. I saw one or two tracks that didn't make it, but then when I'd draw in the same area it would hit the edge. (If it really drives you insane, go back to bone stock and see if it duplicates. If it does, I'd get a new phone under warranty if you have that option) The gaps that you are seeing are WAY bigger than the gaps I had when they appeared, which was only a few swipes out of many.
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I played with the dev options touch tracks. If you are swiping the pen onto the screen it looks like there is a slight delay, but if I draw lines from the center out at all angles it seems to take me all the way to the edge most of the time. I saw one or two tracks that didn't make it, but then when I'd draw in the same area it would hit the edge. (If it really drives you insane, go back to bone stock and see if it duplicates. If it does, I'd get a new phone under warranty if you have that option) The gaps that you are seeing are WAY bigger than the gaps I had when they appeared, which was only a few swipes out of many.
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Why not take a screenshot to prove yourself? You make it sound like you are experiencing no gap at all, which I find hard to believe.
But please if you can back this up with screenshots it would be greatly appreciated and help figure out if this is really a problem or if we're making it a problem when there's none there.
Don't have this problem, but I do have the problem of not being able to draw straight lines from top to bottom on the right edge of my screen.
Even if I use a straight edge with the S-Pen, it draws a squigly line, but ONLY on the right side of my screen. No where else.
This is a replacement phone btw, the first one would lock up if you put more then 4 fingers on the screen, and I had a dead spot in the bottom right corner of my screen.
Stock has that visual touch option?
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Why not take a screenshot to prove yourself? You make it sound like you are experiencing no gap at all, which I find hard to believe.
But please if you can back this up with screenshots it would be greatly appreciated and help figure out if this is really a problem or if we're making it a problem when there's none there.
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No gap confirmed and proven.
Seems to be fine on the newest build of 4.1.2: http://i.imgur.com/sIxDBMW.png
Adrynalyne and illogic6 can you guys confirm you took those screenshots while using the S Pen to see touches? Here's why I ask.
These first 2 screenshots are of me using my fingers for touch input.
Now these next 2 screenshots are using the S Pen.
If you look you will see that when using your fingers the Pressure sensor always reports a 1.0 maximum pressure, and using the S Pen it is able to have a large range, with 1.0 requiring a great deal of force. Since neither of you guys have a solid red 1.0 for Pres I am going to guarantee you both used the S Pen. In this case, as you can also see in my screenshots I was able to get basically full range of the screen and digitizer when using the Pen. Unfortunately that's not the issue we're having, it's with finger touch.
The closest I can get to any of the 4 edges using my fingers is within 20 pixels reach to the very border. If you guys could please re-do the tests and screenshots using your fingers instead of the S Pen I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.
Mine were both done with the s-pen.
However unlike the pen, your finger ends up going off the screen when it ends up losing touch.
I think that's the reason we are seeing this. The finger cannot be as precise as the pen.
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Mine were both done with the s-pen.
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I know they were, and thank you for confirming. I'd like to see some shots from you and illogic of you guys using your fingers instead while doing the same motions.
You caught me editing my post. Check it again to see what my theory is.
This would be better tested using a capacitive stylus.
Also despite the pointer location cutting off, I can actually press in the area that appears dead and activate menu options.
So something weird is going on for sure but I don't think they are truly dead spots.
Here's a screen shot, looks like it does cut off touches before the edge of the screen with the fingers. I Wonder if it cuts off when the first part of your finger leaves the screen? Maybe It senses bezel input and registers a swipe? All of the inputs along the edge are spen inputs.
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Also despite the pointer location cutting off, I can actually press in the area that appears dead and activate menu options.
So something weird is going on for sure but I don't think they are truly dead spots.
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I agree. Especially when I watch full screen flash videos the little tiny bar on the bottom of the screen along the left edge, I am able to press a button probably 10x10 pixels square right on the edge and it almost always works the first time. And that's using my finger, with the Pen it's obviously always accurate.
I wonder why it shows up like that though? The show pointer locations developer option is as raw as you're going to get at visualizing how the hardware is being interpreted, so it's not like other software could read those dead spaces. It's just really wierd all around.
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Here's a screen shot, looks like it does cut off touches before the edge of the screen with the fingers. I Wonder if it cuts off when the first part of your finger leaves the screen? Maybe It senses bezel input and registers a swipe? All of the inputs along the edge are spen inputs.
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That's interesting. I am sure I would come up with the same results. I find it rather annoying though.
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i have the same issue, first i thougt it would be my otterbox case, but i put another note in, the n7100 (international note 2) and it works fine.
i have this problems mainly on the buttons M and Backspace on the swype keyboard with english layout. thats why i recognized the issue. i dont know if its anywhere else as well.
but sometimes it works pretty good, if i keep texting it just gets bad from one second to the next. but it will work if i press the screen "harder"...
any solution to fix it?
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i have the same issue, first i thougt it would be my otterbox case, but i put another note in, the n7100 (international note 2) and it works fine.
i have this problems mainly on the buttons M and Backspace on the swype keyboard with english layout. thats why i recognized the issue. i dont know if its anywhere else as well.
but sometimes it works pretty good, if i keep texting it just gets bad from one second to the next. but it will work if i press the screen "harder"...
any solution to fix it?
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This isn't the same problem we're having in this thread. What you're experiencing is likely a busted digitizer. We're experiencing a clipped plane of detection all around the edges of the screen.
If you're positive that those specific spots on the screen never work then I would recommend you replace the phone.
I had a bit more time to play with this. i can doodle all day long in this so called dead spot but if i drag in from the bezel it doesn't register till 20 or so pixels in. Is that what others are seeing? It is on all sides
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If you are viewing this thread, hopefully you haven't bought the Evo 3d just yet or are still within your 30 days. I just wanted to share my experiences with the Evo 3D to help others avoid the headaches I have had with a few visual defects on some Evo 3d's and also an operational defect. I would recommend inspecting the phone for these things before you leave or before you'll be outside your 30 days and offered a refurb. I made the mistake of not looking things over at the store, and it took me 2 replacements to finally get a phone that didn't have these defects.
Please Note: I'm a very picky person, so I always check my new phones for defects and eye sores before I get to the point where I am unable to resolve the issue within 30 days. Some of the things that I have an issue with may not be a big deal for others. Many people are happy with their phone even with a minor defect, but I feel if it's brand new it should be the same quality as a brand new phone.
If your opinion differs on what matters and what doesn't, don't bother trying to debate. The purpose for this post is to help others spot minor defects that may be an eye sore for them personally.
Pin Hole Size White Dot near Capacitive Buttons
-While this may not be a big deal to some, I found it a rather annoying eye sore while using your phone in a dark room or when your bottom buttons are lit up.
-This shouldn't be too hard to spot, just make sure that your buttons are lit up. Usually you will have to cover the sensor along the top of the phone if you are not in a dark room to get the buttons to light up. See picture below for example.
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-Once again just a minor defect that is common on LCD screens, but if you are watching a movie it can become rather noticeable.
-The easiest way I found to check for this is to install "Dead Pixel Test" from the market. This app will go through several solid color screens which will help you spot a dead pixel if there are any.
Power/Sleep Button Activates with a Minor Touch
-Could be a possible issue if the phone is in your pocked and button is activated, your phone may turn off and you wouldn't even know it.
-The button should have somewhat of a click to it when your press it. Try gently putting your finger on the button without much pressure, and see if the screen turns on/off.
Dust Particles Under Screen or Glass Covering Camera's
-May cause pictures to appear fuzzy if you have dust under the glass, and well the screen that's self explanatory.
-Could be difficult to spot, just look from multiple angles to spot any dust.
Red Trim That Surrounds Camera Glass is Lose [Reported by: mayfield103]
-Only have seen this mentioned a few times, but could be a big eyesore if it comes out. I would guess that this issue stems from the rear cover on the phone not being taken off carefully but check anyways.
3D/2D Toggle Button is Wobbly or Lose (Fairly Common Issue) [Reported by:dirkyd3rk and a few others]
-This is more so just annoying when the phone vibrates so does the button itself. Could be a problem in the future though if the button actually pops off from being slid back and forth a number of times.
-Easiest way to check for this would be to just slide the toggle, if it has give before fully locking into 3D or 2D then the button is probably faulty. You may get weird looks for this but if you shake the phone you can also hear it as well.
Screen is Slightly Tilted to Either Side [Reported by: DeMiNeO]
-"It's almost unnoticable if your not looking at it, but then drives you mad once you find it".
The Infamous "Light Bleed" Along Bottom and Slightly Up Sides of the Screen
-This has been reported and debated by quite a few people. Some say its light bleed, while others say the Capacitive buttons are just too bright. This just appears as a slight glow between the side of the screen and the frame of the phone along the bottom. Those who had the OG Evo know exactly what this looks like.
-If you have access to a decently dark room this shouldn't be hard to spot, wake the screen and look along the bottom edge of the screen.
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-"You can see if it effects you easily by looking at the upper right corner of your phone. If it looks tilted, you have the issue".
These issues seem to be isolated, so don't let this sway you from buying the phone. I am very satisfied with my phone I just wanted to provide a thread for such issues.
Hopefully this will help some people out and prevent multiple trips to the Sprint store for a replacement. As I said before, some may not care about these issues but if you notice the little things I would recommend checking for these defects. If I missed something else just post the issue and I will edit the OP.
Excellent tips thank you. I'm very picky also. I'm getting mine July 4th.
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Excellent tips thank you. I'm very picky also. I'm getting mine July 4th.
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No problem, most of these have been posted already in different places but just figured one thread would be a little easier to find instead of doing all the digging.
Only thing I noticed on mine is that dot u pointed out its a cosmetic thing not a defect more like a ant tit of a spot can't see it unless u rape your phone with your eyeball other that my phone zero issues no problem with pixles or leakinglight which people claim they have its not leaking just bright ass buttons .
2d3d button wobble slightly no issue no yellow tint either . I'm not picky unless you get white spots like the EVO had 2 months into the brandnew phone that sucks .
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Awesome! Thanks for posting. Also another thing I have noticed is a minuscule but noticeable small silver chip off the paint on the rim surrounding one of the dual lenses at the back. A couple of phones had it, MAKE SURE YOU verify that yours doesn't have it.
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Awesome! Thanks for posting. Also another thing I have noticed is a minuscule but noticeable small silver chip off the paint on the rim surrounding one of the dual lenses at the back. A couple of phones had it, MAKE SURE YOU verify that yours doesn't have it.
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Yea, i got that man. Boy was i mad when i got home because i changed out the original 3D i was going to get because the top of the screen had a bump and the battery cover had some kind of stuff stuck on it. I thought i checked it over good but to my suprise, low and behold that scratch on the rim of the camera lenses a couple hours later when i checked again.
OCD FTL.
The red ring around the camera on the battery door is Coming loose on mine I contacted HTC about a new battery cover they said to call back in a week because they didn't have any replacement parts yet.
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I have a stuck pixel (green) at the top left of the screen.
Sent via Evo 3D...mmmmm dual core.
Here I come with the wobbly 2d/3d button LOL. It's going to kill me if I don't return it before this week is up. Multiple people said they have it; I'm wondering if some users button is snug!
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Don't forget light bleed. Both of mine have it, one worse than the other.
Swyped from my Atari 2600 3D
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Here I come with the wobbly 2d/3d button LOL. It's going to kill me if I don't return it before this week is up. Multiple people said they have it; I'm wondering if some users button is snug!
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If I shake the phone I can here it kinda rattle. Lol, that hasn't bothered me, but I hear what you're saying. I've had some data gripes, but over all...AWESOME device!!
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If I shake the phone I can here it kinda rattle. Lol, that hasn't bothered me, but I hear what you're saying. I've had some data gripes, but over all...AWESOME device!!
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You confirming that makes me feel a lot better; I've only seen 2 comments about it from another user and myself.
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If I shake the phone I can here it kinda rattle. Lol, that hasn't bothered me, but I hear what you're saying. I've had some data gripes, but over all...AWESOME device!!
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Mine rattles when I shake it as well. I'm pretty sure my data issues are because of my house. I roam when I'm inside my house sometimes.
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Mine Doesn't rattle.
Check to make sure your screen isn't tilted either.
I've seen where some people's screens (And the Sprint Demo evo3d) had the screen tilted to the right a TINY TINY bit. It's almost unnoticable if your not looking at it, but then drives you mad once you find it. You can see if it effects you easily by looking at the upper right corner of your phone. If it looks tilted, you have the issue.
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I'm not picky unless you get white spots like the EVO had 2 months into the brandnew phone that sucks .
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I hear you there, My OG EVO had the white splotch of doom too. It appeared in the lower center of the screen. I didnt know it was a well known defect until 8 months later, or that you could switch it out under the mfg warranty. So this is a good thread to have.
The kind guys at my radioshack swapped my evo 3d that had dirt under the screen in a few places. they didnt even look at me weird. They seemed to understand that I didnt want to look at that for at least one (possibly 2 years).
I Have light bleed when my captive buttons are not lit but my back light is on... my search button still glows from the leak... bothers me late at night when i am in my bed... "researching"
its a good thing you posted this, once I read it I began looking for these little flaws and found a dead pixel. Sprint is overnighting me a new one. Thanks
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Yea I have light leaking through too
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My EVO 4g had a couple of dead pixels, it was only noticeable when the screen was black. I dealt with it. I didn't want to go through the unrooting and rooting process again or worse...end up with a crappy refurb.
Anyone else having this issue? My spen will launch an app or type characters on the keyboard even when its 1/2 inch away from the screen.. Getting pretty frustrating. I see there's no ability to calibrate the spen either.
There is a way to calibrate the S-Pen over on the international note forum, haven't heard of anyone trying it here. Check it out n let us know if it works, I would but I can't have a note for another 3 months :c
International forum? I heard those guys are pretty rough.. Lol thanks for the tip!
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The spen "phantom" triggers the bottom right of my screen when using it while I'm lying on my back. It irritates the hell out of me.
I think it has to do with the combination of a faulty spen (the nib pushes on the pressure sensor when the pen is inverted) and a poorly calibrated screen.
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Personally, mine doesn't trigger easily enough for my taste. I have to push harder than I'd like to get it to register. Not "hard" per se, but hard enough that the pen almost wants to 'skip' instead of 'slide' across the screen when trying to navigate around. (Talking about the minimum pressure needed to engage swiping and touching, etc). Still completely usable, just wish that it was a wee bit more sensitive so I could just 'glide' the pen around lightly vs pushing it down while moving around.
I'm having the same problem. I just noticed it last night. I was using the s-pen and would get about 1/4" to the screen and it would select apps/options whatever. Kinda annoying
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Yes, I reported the same issue yesterday... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1511230
After exchanging my first Note, the second has the same problem, but over a smaller area. Unfortunately the area affected this time includes part of the keyboard and the bottom row of the launcher screen, so it makes life difficult when using the S Pen. I'll be exchanging this one too.
Anyone interested can check their device with the S Memo app. Just open a new memo and start waving the S pen over the screen surface about 1/4" above the screen. If you get brush marks on the screen without touching it I'd say there's a problem. And by doing this over the entire screen you can map the areas affected.
If you search YouTube for 'samsung galaxy note s pen problem' you'll find at least 4 international users who've posted videos on this problem.
I'm no expert, but I've experimented with other Wacom pens (I have two older tablet PCs), and neither of those pens exhibit this issue when used on the Note. It seems they only transmit when the pen nib is depressed. The S Pens transmit all the time... there doesn't seem to be a switch depressed by the nib. This system actually provides more sensitivity, such as scrolling screens with less pressure than required with the legacy Wacom pens. However, this increased sensitivity requires a perfectly calibrated digitizer over the entire screen to sense when the pen makes contact with the screen and I'm guessing that's where my problems are coming from. Hopefully the third time's the charm for me.
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Anyone interested can check their device with the S Memo app. Just open a new memo and start waving the S pen over the screen surface about 1/4" above the screen. If you get brush marks on the screen without touching it I'd say there's a problem. And by doing this over the entire screen you can map the areas affected.
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With the nub touching the screen, but applying no pressure, I moved it all around a new memo and didn't get any brush strokes. Is that a good test?
Yes, that's sounds good to me. That's the way my Note works with my older Wacom pens.
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Personally, mine doesn't trigger easily enough for my taste. I have to push harder than I'd like to get it to register. Not "hard" per se, but hard enough that the pen almost wants to 'skip' instead of 'slide' across the screen when trying to navigate around. (Talking about the minimum pressure needed to engage swiping and touching, etc). Still completely usable, just wish that it was a wee bit more sensitive so I could just 'glide' the pen around lightly vs pushing it down while moving around.
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I'm kind of with ya on this, I wish mine was a little more sensitive. Although mine doesn't sound quite as bad as yours.
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Anyone else having this issue? My spen will launch an app or type characters on the keyboard even when its 1/2 inch away from the screen.. Getting pretty frustrating. I see there's no ability to calibrate the spen either.
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I think OP's pen is defective. When I press the tip of the pen inward (toward the pen) with my finger and hover over the screen, I get the behavior described - I can be 1/2" away from the screen and tap/draw. But if I don't press the tip of the pen, I have to touch the screen to register a tap. There is a very tiny amount of movement in the white nib, and it should be on a slight spring. Mine doesn't activate upside down either. Maybe someone jammed your pen into something and broke it?
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... When I press the tip of the pen inward (toward the pen) with my finger and hover over the screen, I get the behavior described - I can be 1/2" away from the screen and tap/draw. But if I don't press the tip of the pen, I have to touch the screen to register a tap. There is a very tiny amount of movement in the white nib, and it should be on a slight spring. Mine doesn't activate upside down either. Maybe someone jammed your pen into something and broke it?
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You're right... I get the same behavior by pressing the nib anywhere over the screen. However, on these defective devices the S Pen still activates the screen in certain areas even without pressing the nib. So I think the pens are probably working okay and it's the digitizer that has problems.
That's my point - the nib is probably broken in a permanently "pressed-in" state. I would suspect the tiny moving-part spring action of the pen before I'd suspect the solid-state digitizer.
AT&T has the spare pen and larger holder for $30, which is a deal considering they offer the spare pen alone for the same price, and Samsung sells the combo for $60. Or you could take it to a store and test the store pen (though based on my experience that would be more likely to be broken or stolen).
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That's my point - the nib is probably broken in a permanently "pressed-in" state. I would suspect the tiny moving-part spring action of the pen before I'd suspect the solid-state digitizer.
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Maybe this picture of a test memo will clarify the issue with my second Note. The S Pen never was close to the screen, at least 1/4" away. But the area of the defect is limited to just a small portion of the screen. So in this case it's not likely to be a permanently depressed nib, but a bad portion of the screen. I can't say what the OP's issue might be. (On my first Note, the bad area was larger and near the top of the screen.)
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Edit: I suspect there's probably some of both out there (bad pens and bad screens)... either way it makes the device difficult to use with the pen and worthy of an exchange.
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Maybe this picture of a test memo will clarify the issue with my second Note. The S Pen never was close to the screen, at least 1/4" away. But the area of the defect is limited to just a small portion of the screen. So in this case it's not likely to be a permanently depressed nib, but a bad portion of the screen. I can't say what the OP's issue might be. (On my first Note, the bad area was larger and near the top of the screen.)
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Ah, sorry, I misunderstood your issue. Got it!
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I'm kind of with ya on this, I wish mine was a little more sensitive. Although mine doesn't sound quite as bad as yours.
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Maybe I exaggerated it a bit. What I would *like* is if the pressure of the pen's own weight was enough to make it work, and I didn't have to physically press down at all to help it. That way I could very lightly glide it around without pressing much if at all. Basically like your fingers -- you really don't need to press down at all and I want to use the pen as a more accurate finger. But I just need to press a bit. Enough that sometimes I don't press enough and get frustrated that I need to re-swipe or re-tap, and it makes me not really want to keep using it lol. I don't need to like lean on it or anything... it requires about as much as you'd need to make a bic pen start to write on paper.
Well, just back from Best Buy. I was lucky because they had just received another shipment of Notes. I did another exchange and my third Note is working great! No problems with the pen/digitizer combination at all (so far).
While at BB I tried the new pen on my old device and found some improvement, but could still get some spurious screen actions in the lower right corner where the digitizer needs calibration. As other posters have noted, it seems worse if you hold the device upside down (maybe due to the pen nib switch), but was still wonky at any angle.
So it looks to me like this issue may sometimes be due to a miscalibrated or defective S Pen, sometimes a miscalibrated or defective digitizer screen, and sometimes a combination of both. I'm just happy to now have a working device.
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Maybe I exaggerated it a bit. What I would *like* is if the pressure of the pen's own weight was enough to make it work, and I didn't have to physically press down at all to help it. That way I could very lightly glide it around without pressing much if at all. Basically like your fingers -- you really don't need to press down at all and I want to use the pen as a more accurate finger. But I just need to press a bit. Enough that sometimes I don't press enough and get frustrated that I need to re-swipe or re-tap, and it makes me not really want to keep using it lol. I don't need to like lean on it or anything... it requires about as much as you'd need to make a bic pen start to write on paper.
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I'm having the same issue...I have to press harder then I'd like. We cannot be the only ones that think like this right? I would like the pen to work under its own weight.
So the question is. How sensitive is your spen guys? I'd like to make sure there is no problem with my phone or spen.
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Well, just back from Best Buy. I was lucky because they had just received another shipment of Notes. I did another exchange and my third Note is working great! No problems with the pen/digitizer combination at all (so far).
While at BB I tried the new pen on my old device and found some improvement, but could still get some spurious screen actions in the lower right corner where the digitizer needs calibration. As other posters have noted, it seems worse if you hold the device upside down (maybe due to the pen nib switch), but was still wonky at any angle.
So it looks to me like this issue may sometimes be due to a miscalibrated or defective S Pen, sometimes a miscalibrated or defective digitizer screen, and sometimes a combination of both. I'm just happy to now have a working device.
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Glad to hear that BB is working with you. My phone and pens (the pen that came with the phone, as well as the pen that came with the "s pen holder" accessory) both display the same symptoms while I'm using the pen at an upwards angle. My s memo test was much worse, as the screen starts acknowledging the s pen well above the picture above. It's super frustrating, and I'm glad to hear that not all phones are like this. I'll definitely be exchanging my phone when I have a few hours of free time.
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... It's super frustrating, and I'm glad to hear that not all phones are like this. I'll definitely be exchanging my phone when I have a few hours of free time.
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Sorry, I guess I should have updated this thread. My third Note started exhibiting the same issue after about six hours of use, although it was still better than my first two. I also checked the display models at my AT&T store and they showed the same issue, so all five Notes I've had contact with all have shown the same defect.
My solution was found in another thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1517411
In post #22 of that thread was my final fix, which is still working great for me at this point.
Okay basically of all the Notes I've used (5 of them!) they all have this issue where towards the bottom of the screen where the "." and "Space" key are on the Samsung Keyboard, if the stylus or phone is being held in a certain way it will think it's being pressed down when it's not actually, but it only happens in that one spot! I took my AT&T Galaxy Note back to the AT&T store today and both display models had this issue, the replacement phone they gave me had this issue, and one of the Employee's had a Note that also had this issue, all in the EXACT same spot! I just want to make everyone aware of this and to see if this is an issue with all AT&T Samsung Galaxy Notes, and if it is make Samsung and AT&T aware of it and get them to issue a software or hardware fix.
Thanks.
Video demonstrating the issue:
http://youtu.be/LGzXEUg4g18
(Interesting enough all of my Wacom Tablet PC pens do not display this problem with the Note)
Update: When you test to see if your Note does this, make sure it's leaning in towards you a bit
I fail to see how this is a MAJOR issue? What problem would this cause?
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What program do you have open that you are drawing on?
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I fail to see how this is a MAJOR issue? What problem would this cause?
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Because you can be sitting there using hand writing recognition or typing with the keyboard and it suddenly randomly starts hitting a bunch of keys, or drawing something and it just randomly starts scribbling. It's annoying as hell! also the fact it affects EVERY note I've touched.
i have gt n7000.no problems here.prob. just a software bug.hopefully they will update firmware to fix all these small issue u guys having.
Glad I'm not the only one with this problem. Mine is affected at the lower right side of the screen. I hate it when it's pushing buttons.
I had hoped that replacing the stylus would resolve the issue but I'm having doubts after OP's post.
I would consider this a major issue.
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I just tried replicating this on my note. Doesn't happen.
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mine works fine.
Also, I fail to see this as a MAJOR issue...maybe an annoyance but Major?
I believe what Wolfox360 commented on my video is true, I think it's magnetic interference from either one of the radios or the speaker causing this, that's why my Wacom Tablet PC pens didn't do this, they're shielded better, I say this needs a hardware fix from Samsung for new Styluses that are shielded better.
Yes, I agree this is a valid issue. There's at least two other threads in this section on this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1512578 &
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1511230.
At post 14 of the first link I provided a pic of a test memo where I mapped the area of the screen affected.
My first Note's defect was not limited to just the lower right corner... it was pretty wideapread. My second Note's defect was limited to the lower right corner but it didn't require the S Pen to be tilted horizontally or upside down to draw on the screen or start going crazy on the keyboard. My third Note only has the issue in the same location (lower right corner) and only when the S Pen is horizontal or tilted back slightly (like using it while laying in bed or in a reclining chair). I've concluded the S Pen is definitely involved (it doesn't happen with my two Wacom tablet PC pens), and the fact that it is often restricted to the lower right corner must mean the digitizer might also be a factor. Something in the pen is causing an increased transmission when it goes horizontal or becomes inverted.
As the third device is at least usable I've decided to keep it and hope Samsung comes out with an improved S Pen or some other fix for the device. In the meantime, I just try to keep the S Pen upright when I'm using it. I guess I probably use the S Pen more than most folks because I'm a long time user of Pocket PCs and Tablet PCs.
The Note is in all other respects my dream device. I'm a fan!
I don't have this issue, whatsoever. Mine works fine. In fact, but my AT&T version and my International version work perfectly. I can drag the tip across the screen, just barely touching, and it won't register anywhere. Then I increase the pressure just a tiny bit and it does register. Operation is uniform across the entire screen.
mine doesn't have that issue at all
As "Wolfox360" showed on his youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPqGw297Fa0 putting a thin ring of Aluminum tape around the stylus almost completely fixes this issue.
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Yes, the aluminum tape around the S Pen seems to fix this issue for me. It's not easy to get the placement and width of the tape just right... and it may differ from pen to pen. I ended up with a slightly narrower band of tape (4mm rather than Wolfox360's recommendation of 5mm) and centered on the bottom of the button, with 2mm of tape over the button and 2mm extending below the button. When I used a tape width of 5mm I was losing some pen functionality (areas of dead spots on the screen).
I wish Samsung and AT&T would address this issue and provide modified pens to those users that need them.
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Yes, the aluminum tape around the S Pen seems to fix this issue for me. It's not easy to get the placement and width of the tape just right... and it may differ from pen to pen. I ended up with a slightly narrower band of tape (4mm rather than Wolfox360's recommendation of 5mm) and centered on the bottom of the button, with 2mm of tape over the button and 2mm extending below the button. When I used a tape width of 5mm I was losing some pen functionality (areas of dead spots on the screen).
I wish Samsung and AT&T would address this issue and provide modified pens to those users that need them.
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I hope they do too, this is my first Samsung phone since an old BlackJack II from several years ago and honestly I'm a bit disappointed with it so far, even my HTC Desire Z (T-Mobile G2)s seemed of all around better quality than this.
My Note has this issue too. Whenever I hold the s-pen near the bottom right it acts like it's touching but it isn't.
My theory on what's causing the issue in the first place is the fact that there's a speaker on the rear of the device right where we seem to be having the issue at. Maybe the speaker magnet there is what's causing it to go wonky?
Glad to see that a simple fix like the aluminum tape is available, gonna have to try that in a bit. I'm thinking that this supports the idea of the speaker causing the issue though, since just adding a tiny little bit of foil to shield the s-pen from the speaker can fix it.
I have the white att galaxy note and I do not have this issue...I've tested numerous times.
this phone is what you get when a skyrocket and galaxy tab get together and make babies - galaxy note!
White AT&T Note here and don't have the issue either, although, even if I did, I don't know that I would define that as a "MAJOR ISSUE" seeing as how you have to hold the pen a certain way in a certain spot to even get it to do it. Seems more like a minor nuisance.
So is this happening to the black note only? Weird if it is the color shouldn't make a difference...people who are having the problem should post the color of their note.
this phone is what you get when a skyrocket and galaxy tab get together and make babies - galaxy note!
Mine is the black model and has the same issue. In most cases it is probably more nuisance than problem but when trying to use the note application it becomes a real problem for me.
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So is this happening to the black note only? Weird if it is the color shouldn't make a difference...people who are having the problem should post the color of their note.
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I stopped by the local AT&T store and confirmed this issue exists on the white Note on display, just like the black one. The S Pen holder didn't help either... still the same.
I've had 3 black AT&T Notes with various levels of this defect.
I don't know if this is allowed in this section, but I am specifically curious with a question regarding development of a calibration app for the s-pen. I'm wondering if this is something that devs *can* do, or if this is not possible (for whatever reason).
I really hope it is, and that we can get something going. I have to depress the nib on my s-pen more than I would like in order for it to register. It's not bad, but I would prefer it more sensitive such that just the weight of the pen itself was enough to register.
I believe such a calibraiton app is possible, because even though my pen takes a bit of depression to get it to register, I know it is "activated" by the phone well before it even touches the surface of the screen. I have seen times where the pen does not register actual "touches" or "clicks", yet does interact with the phone, which leads me to believe that the pen is actually recognized by the device at a bit of distance before touching, but doesn't actually "click" or actively perform like your finger until the nib is physically depressed beyond the calibration point.
If we could just change a setting that essentially says "this is where the nib zero point is", and change it to suit our needs, and our individual pens, that would be AWESOME. One other thought, though, is that it may not be possible to achieve what I'm thinking, if there is no "signal strength" (for lack of a better term) as the pen gets first recognized and then closer to the screen. If the pen is reporting "0 nib press" until it is actually physically depressed a bit, and the "signal strength" can't be used as another calibration factor to allow it to simulate touches and clicks when it's just "close enough", then maybe it's not possible after all? I'm thinking something can be done, but I guess I'm not 100% certain.
If you want to see what I'm talking about where your pen is recognized by the device, but doesn't "click" or anything, just let the screen timeout from not touching it (while it's on). When it first dims, to warn you that it's about to turn off, just hover your pen near, but don't touch the surface. You'll see that it wakes it back up. Yet I've never had my pen EVER "click" or interact with the device from this distance, and it ALWAYS requires the nib to be pressed.
This post is meant to serve as food for thought and proof that the sensitivity should be more than enough, but there is just some calibration setting that is prevent the pen from being more (or less) sensitive.
You post in this section if you are personally developing something.
And yes, I would also be interested in some sort of calibration tool. It's a shame Samsung didn't include one.
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I don't know if this is allowed in this section, but I am specifically curious with a question regarding development of a calibration app for the s-pen. I'm wondering if this is something that devs *can* do, or if this is not possible (for whatever reason).
I really hope it is, and that we can get something going. I have to depress the nib on my s-pen more than I would like in order for it to register. It's not bad, but I would prefer it more sensitive such that just the weight of the pen itself was enough to register.
I believe such a calibraiton app is possible, because even though my pen takes a bit of depression to get it to register, I know it is "activated" by the phone well before it even touches the surface of the screen. I have seen times where the pen does not register actual "touches" or "clicks", yet does interact with the phone, which leads me to believe that the pen is actually recognized by the device at a bit of distance before touching, but doesn't actually "click" or actively perform like your finger until the nib is physically depressed beyond the calibration point.
If we could just change a setting that essentially says "this is where the nib zero point is", and change it to suit our needs, and our individual pens, that would be AWESOME. One other thought, though, is that it may not be possible to achieve what I'm thinking, if there is no "signal strength" (for lack of a better term) as the pen gets first recognized and then closer to the screen. If the pen is reporting "0 nib press" until it is actually physically depressed a bit, and the "signal strength" can't be used as another calibration factor to allow it to simulate touches and clicks when it's just "close enough", then maybe it's not possible after all? I'm thinking something can be done, but I guess I'm not 100% certain.
If you want to see what I'm talking about where your pen is recognized by the device, but doesn't "click" or anything, just let the screen timeout from not touching it (while it's on). When it first dims, to warn you that it's about to turn off, just hover your pen near, but don't touch the surface. You'll see that it wakes it back up. Yet I've never had my pen EVER "click" or interact with the device from this distance, and it ALWAYS requires the nib to be pressed.
This post is meant to serve as food for thought and proof that the sensitivity should be more than enough, but there is just some calibration setting that is prevent the pen from being more (or less) sensitive.
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this definitely should've been posted in the q&a section or the general section, not here, this is the development section , please move or delete!
Sorry. I was hoping the detail of the pen activating when near the screen might be a light bulb to some devs who view this forum. Thought it was a relevant "development" detail, didn't want it to go overlooked in the general section.
Mods, please move the thread if appropriate.
I'm testing TouchScreenTune for the developer Vitalijus, and found that Da_G's OC kernel is missing KALLSYMS (TouchScreenTune requires it), i assume this means ATNT stock is also missing it.
I PMed Da_G to see he can plug it in, hopefully he can and our calibration problems will be solved.
From my understanding all that is needed is to set CONFIG_KALLSYMS=y CONFIG_KALLSYMS_ALL=y in the kernel.
Go to dialer and press *#0*#
In this menu is a spen test
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Go to dialer and press *#0*#
In this menu is a spen test
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I just tried that and it said first "USSD code running..." and then said "Connection problem or invalid MMI code."
jpitch2415 said:
Go to dialer and press *#0*#
In this menu is a spen test
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That is not calibration, just function test...
Moved To General
Please post in the correct section. This is for development only!
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I just tried that and it said first "USSD code running..." and then said "Connection problem or invalid MMI code."
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Works for me, gives about a dozen tests to select from. Comes up right after you press the last #. Shouldn't even give you time to press Talk/Send.
I didnt say calibration did i?
I said test, so people can make sure it is correctly working...
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My pen doesn't reach all the way to the edge of the screen on 2 sides of the screen, is that normal (or typical)?
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My pen doesn't reach all the way to the edge of the screen on 2 sides of the screen, is that normal (or typical)?
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Yes, many people are having this problem with the bottom(about .3mm) and right(about .01) side. They have not aligned the SPEN correctly to the borders of the screen.
Hopefully they fix this soon...
Hi,
I added in the requested KALLSYMs support.
If it can be determined that there is a fixed offset common among devices, this can be fixed at the kernel level.
shaolinx said:
Yes, many people are having this problem with the bottom(about .3mm) and right(about .01) side. They have not aligned the SPEN correctly to the borders of the screen.
Hopefully they fix this soon...
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I have the same issue and just got my Note. Should I exchange it or is this a common issue that everyone has?
Its been that way on every device i have checked....12 now
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My pen doesn't reach all the way to the edge of the screen on 2 sides of the screen, is that normal (or typical)?
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Hi,
I added in the requested KALLSYMs support.
If it can be determined that there is a fixed offset common among devices, this can be fixed at the kernel level.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1519199&highlight=s+pen
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i noticed when you change the spen settings from right to left handed the sides of the screen where you cant get to the edge changes as well, but the bottom is the same on both
Started using toucscreen tune and it almost completely fixed it.
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i noticed when you change the spen settings from right to left handed the sides of the screen where you cant get to the edge changes as well, but the bottom is the same on both
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Touchscreentune made a huge difference. I donated. Still not perfect but definitely better
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Recently I found some weird little air bubbles in the corners off my Nexus 9. I don't have any screen protector so that isn't it. It has never repared or replaced before, it's still original.
The air bubbles show up on the left side in both corners and are around 2mm big. In the corners on the right side are also starting to show some bubbles but they are hard to see. I took some pictures, to show you.
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Does anyone has any idea what has happened or what is wrong with it.
O, I never let the device fall so that not the case also.
It's almost 2 years old now and still has some warranty on it.
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Recently I found some weird little air bubbles in the corners off my Nexus 9. I don't have any screen protector so that isn't it. It has never repared or replaced before, it's still original.
The air bubbles show up on the left side in both corners and are around 2mm big. In the corners on the right side are also starting to show some bubbles but they are hard to see. I took some pictures, to show you.
Does anyone has any idea what has happened or what is wrong with it.
O, I never let the device fall so that not the case also.
It's almost 2 years old now and still has some warranty on it.
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same happen here..i thought it only happen on me
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I have the same problem, and they are slowly growing! What can be done to prevent them from growing further, or to remove them?
@KTMlc4111 can you re-upload the pictures? the link is broken.
Photo URL and Google replaced some parts
Hi,
New update about the weird little bubbles in the edge of my screen.
I send my Nexus back to the shop and one week later I was called that they replaced some parts and that the problem was solved. I didn't know what parts where replaced but definitely the screen, back cover and the volume buttons have been replaced. It looks brand new and maybe it is another Nexus.
Here are some old photos because the old URL is broke .
goo.gl/photos/dN5CdPLquB9FvpDU7
Let me know of the URL works now ow and of you have more questions, please let me know.
KTMlc4111 said:
Hi,
New update about the weird little bubbles in the edge of my screen.
I send my Nexus back to the shop and one week later I was called that they replaced some parts and that the problem was solved. I didn't know what parts where replaced but definitely the screen, back cover and the volume buttons have been replaced. It looks brand new and maybe it is another Nexus.
Here are some old photos because the old URL is broke .
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Let me know of the URL works now ow and of you have more questions, please let me know.
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I also have the same problem in opposite corners. Did they charge you for the repair? If yes, how much?
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I also have the same problem in opposite corners. Did they charge you for the repair? If yes, how much?
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It still had 2 months warranty on it. After the repair it looked brand new. They replaced the screen and cover. Honestly I think they have me a refurbished one.
Hope that it helped you and Good luck
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It still had 2 months warranty on it. After the repair it looked brand new. They replaced the screen and cover. Honestly I think they have me a refurbished one.
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Did you contact HTC directly, or did you contact Google, or did you just send your N9 back to the place you bought it from?
I bought my N9 from Amazon in Dec. 2014, so I'm not sure who to contact, and I'm not even sure I've got a 2 year warranty.
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Did you contact HTC directly, or did you contact Google, or did you just send your N9 back to the place you bought it from?
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I brought it back to the place where I bought it and got it returned in 8 days.
I have 2 bubbles at top left corner and 1 at top right corner. Can't fix
All you need to fix it is bring to repair. I think it's look like glue or plastic just heat and melt down.
PS: same problem and in my country had no store accept to fix it. I think they don't have screen to replace it
Got it too - a bubble in top right corner slowly growing. Do not have either google or htc representative nearby, what am I supposed to do?
Did anyone get anywhere with this? My Nexus 9 has the same issue.
I contacted Google but as my N9 is over 2yo, they won't help me. All they would do is put me through to HTC.
I spoke with HTC and they kept implying I mistreated it or got it wet (I didn't!) Their only solution was to send it in for inspection. That's going to cost $AUD49.50 if I don't proceed with the repair.
I'm disappointed. With several cases like this, I'd say it's some kind of manufacturing defect.
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Did anyone get anywhere with this? My Nexus 9 has the same issue.
I contacted Google but as my N9 is over 2yo, they won't help me. All they would do is put me through to HTC.
I spoke with HTC and they kept implying I mistreated it or got it wet (I didn't!) Their only solution was to send it in for inspection. That's going to cost $AUD49.50 if I don't proceed with the repair.
I'm disappointed. With several cases like this, I'd say it's some kind of manufacturing defect.
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I have it too. Guess I'm just going to have to live with it. I replaced the screen on my n7 (2013), it was fairly easy (for my first time doing something like that). This one looks a little harder, and more expensive. If it gets too bad I'm going to break down and do it. Not too many good tablets out there right now. This one isn't bad with custom ROM on it. Not great, but not bad.
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I have it too. Guess I'm just going to have to live with it. I replaced the screen on my n7 (2013), it was fairly easy (for my first time doing something like that). This one looks a little harder, and more expensive. If it gets too bad I'm going to break down and do it. Not too many good tablets out there right now. This one isn't bad with custom ROM on it. Not great, but not bad.
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This is an old thread but my Nexus 9 has started developing bubbles over the last couple of months, and in the last couple of weeks I've gone from one to three in the top RH corner (just above the battery symbol) and another small one a bit over to the left. Has anyone tried any fixes like applying heat/pressure or anything? I've just gotten to the point where I'm relatively happy with its performance and still can't find a worthy replacement, so I'd like to keep it going for as long as possible.
I got mine repaired, it was still under warranty. But is came back after a year or so.... Never tried to fix it again after that.
same here, 2 bubbles growing...
I just ignore it as it didnt effect the display...
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I found out that the bubbles will move from time to time.
Im assuming that there a bubble trap between digitizer and lcd...
ronald_loulan said:
same here, 2 bubbles growing...
I just ignore it as it didnt effect the display...
Update:
I found out that the bubbles will move from time to time.
Im assuming that there a bubble trap between digitizer and lcd...
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seems i am late to the party ... mine was in the tip right corner and now its moved an inch left ...and i see 2 new ones on the edge ... a manufacturing defect ... seems the corners of the nexus screen by design are such that its sucking in air and the glue closes in from behind forming a bubble ... and further stress on the screen (like tucking the nexus 9 in between clothes for instance while travelling) seem to trigger this movement which in air in between the screen and digitizer bonding ...
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seems i am late to the party ... mine was in the tip right corner and now its moved an inch left ...and i see 2 new ones on the edge ... a manufacturing defect ... seems the corners of the nexus screen by design are such that its sucking in air and the glue closes in from behind forming a bubble ... and further stress on the screen (like tucking the nexus 9 in between clothes for instance while travelling) seem to trigger this movement which in air in between the screen and digitizer bonding ...
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There's no solution to fix it other than replacing the LCD panel....
I have a couple of the Nexus 9 tablets and almost all of them have what looks like bubbles around the screen. However these are not bubbles. The optically clear adhesive that the manufacturer used on these tablets shrinks over time. What you're seeing is actually vacuum pockets. There is no air in these "bubbles" at all. Although disturbing, they are just cosmetic and should not affect the operation of the tablet.