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Hi XDA!
I've been reading bits through the forum for a little while, and used a few of the guides available on here to root my S2, as well as flash litening rom onto it.
for what its worth I'll try and give as much detail as possible, I was originally using MIUI, and then using CWM swapped to Litening Rom.
A few nights ago I dropped my S2, it landed on the top right corner and I could see a small crack across the display and it won't come on, and first it was blue lines and I could see some of the display through it, but now it stays black, the touchscreen did work for a while, but I've tried it now and nothing.
basically its done... I'm on the Optus $59 Plan and am going to send it in for repairs.
I have no backup from when I got the Phone, of the original software etc
So I need to restore it for repair.... I ordered the usb jig on monday so waiting for that to come in ; EDIT: No Outside links for a new user (Ebay Link to USB Jig)
So once I get that in, I need to go back to whatever is good for repairs.
What I am asking for:
links to appropriate files needed to get me to warranty standards.
basically some help to do it, I don't know much on the whole rooting and flashing scene, and probably jumped a bit ahead of myself with this, and now I'm stuck trying to fix it with no Display.... learned my lesson
I hope this is adequate, any further info that might be needed I would be happy to give
Thanks For Your Time!
Sean
Rotten luck!!!
If you can turn on your phone, then try using ODIN to flash a stock kernel.
As it shows on your PC if it's in contact with the phone.
Search forum's for further info.
Hope this helps
skippy140493 said:
A few nights ago I dropped my S2, it landed on the top right corner and I could see a small crack across the display and it won't come on, and first it was blue lines and I could see some of the display through it, but now it stays black, the touchscreen did work for a while, but I've tried it now and nothing.
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What I am asking for:
links to appropriate files needed to get me to warranty standards.
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You dropped and broke your phone and you think that Samsung/your operator are going to repair it under warranty? Good luck.
Warranty Card said:
The warranty is not applicable in cases other than defects in material design and workmanship. The warranty does not cover the following:
Periodic checks, maintenance, repair and replacement of parts due to normal wear and tear.
Abuse or misuse, including but not solely limited to the failure to use this product for its normal purposes or in accordance with Samsung's instructions for usage and maintenance.
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He could have an extended warranty for things like an accident. They do exist, you know.
From Denmark with wishes of love and happyness.
flemmingski said:
He could have an extended warranty for things like an accident. They do exist, you know.
From Denmark with wishes of love and happyness.
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correct, I have Insurance on the phone through my carrier
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flemmingski said:
Rotten luck!!!
If you can turn on your phone, then try using ODIN to flash a stock kernel.
As it shows on your PC if it's in contact with the phone.
Search forum's for further info.
Hope this helps
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What about the firmware? I will need to change that too won't I?
either way I'm stuck at nothing till the jig arrives
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What about the firmware? I will need to change that too won't I?
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Yes, you need stock kernel and stock firmware.
To be honest i doubt they'll care, the phone was dropped and the screen was broken, this is the reason for the repair. What firmware the phone is running is surely irrelevant it's a hardware problem not software related???????
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correct, I have Insurance on the phone through my carrier
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Joey2o11 said:
To be honest i doubt they'll care, the phone was dropped and the screen was broken, this is the reason for the repair.
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Indeed. Check your insurance policy.
Insurance != Warranty.
Hi, I need urgent help!!
I have buy a new Xperia Neo (for about 300 euro) , the phone perfectly works, but wen I try to update it with Pc companion and SEUS, it says me that the phone have a modified SW.
I'm sure I haven't do nothing like flash, root,..
I go to the shop were I buy it and they send my phone at the Sony assistence.
The assistance find a problem: that the software was bad modified, and says me that for repair it I have to change the all motherboard, because it's damaged and they can't repair it.
But they want 180 euro, the shop says me after a looooong talk that they haven't do nothing at the phone and maybe is a virus, and can help me paying an half,so i have to pay "only" 90 euro.
The question is it's possible damage the motherbord with a SW or a virus??
And what I have to do??
Pay 90 euro also if I haven't damaged it or use the phone like it is(it says me that is damaged and don't know for how much time it works)??
Thanks for help!!
Well looks like someone used that phone before, and looks like unlocked bootloader via official way(hence PC Companion or SEUS wont work), I can't think of another reason.
I wouldn't pay anything. I heard stories that people bought "brand new" phone from store, which have images on it from vacations..
Not sure how you will prove that you didn't do it.
They (Sony Ericsson) should have your IMEI, mail, name if someone unlocked BL official way: http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/instructions
If they say that you unlocked BL tell them to prove you, to show you info from above.
If they can't prove you, demand free fix, as you bought it new.
If they show you that, ether accept that device and go back here on XDA to relock your BL and use SEUS or PC Companion. Or ask/talk to shop to get you new device, which I doubt they will do As you can't prove that you didn't unlocked it.
few software modifications can do damage to the hardware in rare cases like extreme overclocking , extreme overvolting ....
first check if your phone is bootloader locked or not , try using flashtool software (of XDA) to flash latest firmware of your device & see if it changes anything ...
Before sending the phone to assistance I controlled and the bootloader was Unlooked,
but today the shop call me and they say that the assistance have tryied the phone and don't know the date of unlooking, and it's not for the official way.
After I tell that I'm sure, I'haven't do nothing.. they tell me that probably I have a virus, but have a virus apears to me a very very difficult probability, also for the use I have done with the phone. And I don't know if a virus can unlook the bootloader.
The problem is that I don't know how to prove the unlooking was before.
vimjam said:
few software modifications can do damage to the hardware in rare cases like extreme overclocking , extreme overvolting ....
first check if your phone is bootloader locked or not , try using flashtool software (of XDA) to flash latest firmware of your device & see if it changes anything ...
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Yes.. but I think it's hard my phone is damaged for this reasons, I don't know..
It's possible that the motherboard is ok, but the assistance doesn't wont repair it and says me I have to change it??
The phone is unlooked I've seen it before sending to assistance, I haven't the phone now to try, it's in assistance, I have to decide if pay half for a reparacion (90 euro instead 180) or not..
If phone was just bought, just demand for a new unit. Maybe someone bought it from the store, unlocked it, then sent it back. When I got my neo new, my son stepped on it so LCD was busted. I had to return it aftr only 10 days of use. At first they refused to replace it but after some discussions, they did.
And honestly... Thats the first time I heard of a virus destroying a hardware -instantly I mean... But im no tech guru so how do I know.
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Urban legend, software does not kill hardware instantly, it can shorten the life by straining it using it in a way it wasn't designed for but cannot cause instant death. Most of these myths come from old propriety software users, where a virus has damaged a driver or key library then the hardware stops working, stoopid then takes hardware to practitioner of dark arts (monkey who knows a little) who when asked states problem was a virus, stoopid then thinks virus broke hardware, monkey doesn't explain to perpetuate the myth that he can do magic, so that stoopid takes back to monkey when it next breaks.
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Your phone is a used one probably,if pc companion says it got modified fw(due to bootloader being unlocked on official method I guess) and you haven't done anything to it big chance its earlier used one.Demand a new unit from the shop.
>>The question is it's possible damage the motherbord with a SW or a virus??
very rare,but sometimesyes I guess.I remember reading in Neo forums about some battery sensor getting killed when updating android to 2.2 to 2.3.4
Wasn't that downgrading, not upgrading. More a case of missing drivers than physical damage, the battery still worked....
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there is nothing called 'damaged by a virus' specially on 'android' , so yea basically any talk about virus damage is just the guys at the store which sold this phone to you are bullshitting !!
Thilina said:
>>The question is it's possible damage the motherbord with a SW or a virus??
very rare,but sometimesyes I guess.I remember reading in Neo forums about some battery sensor getting killed when updating android to 2.2 to 2.3.4
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mpiekp said:
Wasn't that downgrading, not upgrading. More a case of missing drivers than physical damage, the battery still worked....
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Yup, it is when downgrading. From 2.3.4 to 2.3.2. And it was for all Xperias2011, which started before 2.3.4.
Yup battery still working, but phone is not detecting juice from it
Still, until today noone(of course appart SE guys) knows what exactly killed it. And they(SE) replace entire mbo when you give them phone with that problem.
skyboyextreme said:
there is nothing called 'damaged by a virus' specially on 'android' , so yea basically any talk about virus damage is just the guys at the store which sold this phone to you are bullshitting !!
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Don't be so sure. Yes they can. Regardless if this is the case or not with his phone.
@pioloo: did you bought that phone in some locale phone store, or at some tele operator shop?
Anw, we can all guess now and tell you what we would do. It's up to you. If you are 100% sure you didn't do anything to it, demand new phone, or repairing on THEIR cost, or money return. Don't know how are laws in your country.
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@pioloo: did you bought that phone in some locale phone store, or at some tele operator shop?
Anw, we can all guess now and tell you what we would do. It's up to you. If you are 100% sure you didn't do anything to it, demand new phone, or repairing on THEIR cost, or money return. Don't know how are laws in your country.
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I bought it in a big chain fisical shop, in Italy.
Yes, I'm sure I haven't do nothing, and a virus, in the few days i had it, appears to me very very difficult.
But the problem is that I have no proof..
The shop tolds me that the motherboard is broken, and it's possible that a virus can have canged some registers...
But I can't understand how a virus can broke a moderboard like this... How it's possible????
Also because the phone works perfectly when I send in assistance!
And why, with a flashing you can't have the originals registers??
pioloo said:
The shop tolds me that the motherboard is broken, and it's possible that a virus can have canged some registers...
But I can't understand how a virus can broke a moderboard like this... How it's possible????
Also because the phone works perfectly when I send in assistance!
And why, with a flashing you can't have the originals registers??
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You just answered your question.
Flashing new fw can restore old registry...unless you have unlocked bootloader. Search the forums here how to repair damaged bootloader. Maybe it can fix your problem.
Honestly, I have no faith in the skills of SE repair techs. The fact that they could not tell if my phone was previously rooted when I sent it for.repairs was proof enough for me.
Sent from my MT11i
Right OK lets help this guy here. Can you please tell me where you got it from? So shop name also where and what country? Did you buy it NEW? Or Second Hand? Have you got proof of purchase? Eg invoice or sales note?
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Right OK lets help this guy here. Can you please tell me where you got it from? So shop name also where and what country? Did you buy it NEW? Or Second Hand? Have you got proof of purchase? Eg invoice or sales note?
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After a looong looong talk with the shop finally I solved it!
They said, they change me the all motherboard of the phone for free!
But I had to insist a lot that I don't wanna pay ANYTHING! The offers me to pay only an half, after only 50 euros. But I refuse all! Because I know what I have done with the phone and a virus appears to me something almost impossible, knowning how a virus can work and how I used the phone!
I said I don't wanna pay if they don't have any proof the phone was modified after my buying date, and I asked to have the phone back as it was.
After this calls they call me and say me they pay for the reparation!
I bought it new with the receipt! In Italy in a big shop chain.
It was the last model in the shop and it was not sealed because they said me it was in exposition, but no one used it, and when I open it there was the full battery and the first android configuration, so I belive it and I buy it however.
A suspicion that someone had modified the software I would never have thought.
I don't know if this had happened to someone else who believed in the history of the virus or did not want to waste time discussing would pay a lot of money by no means.
Yes, also my think is the assistance don't want to loose time repairing it, they prefer change the all motherboard in this cases, and say it's impossible to repair.
Thanks to all for the precious help!!
Hey,
If you bought it with unlocked bootloader why dont you try to flash Stock rom via CWM ?
Jozinek created an Update zip of stock rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1518151
So basically you could try to flash a Kernel with CWM and then flash via CWM stock rom.
Pät said:
Hey,
If you bought it with unlocked bootloader why dont you try to flash Stock rom via CWM ?
Jozinek created an Update zip of stock rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1518151
So basically you could try to flash a Kernel with CWM and then flash via CWM stock rom.
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Yes, I thougth about flashing, but before trying everything I tried to have the phone perfectly new, that I paid for!
Because I don't know how was used from who flashed it, and also I don't wanna pay a modified phone like a new one..
Fortunely I solved it! And now I think I wanna save the guarantee at least to the exit of ICS and usefull mods for ICS!
pioloo said:
After a looong looong talk with the shop finally I solved it!
They said, they change me the all motherboard of the phone for free!
But I had to insist a lot that I don't wanna pay ANYTHING! The offers me to pay only an half, after only 50 euros. But I refuse all! Because I know what I have done with the phone and a virus appears to me something almost impossible, knowning how a virus can work and how I used the phone!
I said I don't wanna pay if they don't have any proof the phone was modified after my buying date, and I asked to have the phone back as it was.
After this calls they call me and say me they pay for the reparation!
I bought it new with the receipt! In Italy in a big shop chain.
It was the last model in the shop and it was not sealed because they said me it was in exposition, but no one used it, and when I open it there was the full battery and the first android configuration, so I belive it and I buy it however.
A suspicion that someone had modified the software I would never have thought.
I don't know if this had happened to someone else who believed in the history of the virus or did not want to waste time discussing would pay a lot of money by no means.
Yes, also my think is the assistance don't want to loose time repairing it, they prefer change the all motherboard in this cases, and say it's impossible to repair.
Thanks to all for the precious help!!
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Good to see finally they repaired it for free.I think your phone was used one with fw flashed again before selling to you,you should've demanded a new phone or threatening them you will go to police or sue the shop,glad to say here we have laws that can make shop owner go to jail for like 6-12 months if he cheats the customer
Hello All,
My Samsung galaxy s3 got rebooted and stuck on the boot screen "Samsung galaxy S III GT-I9300". Never rooted this device. Bought only on June 6, 2012. Just used two months.
Gave to the service center yesterday. They told my whole data on the phone will be lost. I don't have any backup also. Didn't expect this to become faulty so soon. The service center guys checked whether the phone rooted. They told me that the warranty will be void if the phone is rooted. Anyway my phone was not rooted. They tried to load the firmware using odin3.4. But it shows the status failed. They told me it could be the problem with phone's board and need to replace. Asked 3 days’ time for the repair.
I used iphone4s and blackberry previously but never had any issue. First time on android and Samsung Galaxy and gave me very bad experience.
Any chance to get new S3 phone replacement as it is used only 2 months. I am afraid that, the board replaced will be a used one and could create problems later.
Shame on Samsung for poor build quality!!
Anybody has similar expereince ?
Saju
Is there really a question here? It's bound to happen that a faulty device makes it out the door. Still, you should buy HTC, not Samsung, better build quality. There's probably a one in a 250,000 chance of faulty device. Your replacement will be fine.
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Thanks scottspa74 for your reposnse.
I would like to share my experence with Galaxy S3 and wanted to know anybody else having this problem.
Is there any chance to ask the Samsung for replacement instead of repair ?
Thanks in advance
Saju
if u never root before and ur custom rom counter shows 0 then samsung have to repair ur phone! Without saying anything m8.
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Thanks szymi22 for the response.
As I told in the initial post, I didn't root the device and so the custom rom counter should be 0.
Still I need to use the repaired one (I don't know what all problems are waiting for this faulty device)
Saju
saju_john said:
Thanks szymi22 for the response.
As I told in the initial post, I didn't root the device and so the custom rom counter should be 0.
Still I need to use the repaired one (I don't know what all problems are waiting for this faulty device)
Saju
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They'll repair utilities under warranty and you'll keep your warranty for the 2 yr period, after that ........
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Samsung are not the seller usually your contract is with the vendor .Up to the vendor in the first instance to repair or replace .
Shame the user did not backup lesson learnt.
Your problem is almost as bad as my problem with IPhone four returned as faulty terrible company 50 million phones and so many bad .
jje
There is always a probability to have a faulty device whatever the brand. This is why one should always backup important data.
This said, i think you're part of not lucky users. I have my S3 since 2,5 months. It's rooted, and I've flashed tens time without any hardware issue or regression.
Today I got my Galaxy S3 repaired. They changed the whole board.
saju_john said:
Today I got my Galaxy S3 repaired. They changed the whole board.
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Great news !
Hope it works fine for you this time.
I had a similar experince of stucking on the boot screen and it is because i wiped out all the stuff on the phone. I used odin to flash the firmware and worked for me.
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Today I got my Galaxy S3 repaired. They changed the whole board.
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good for u
same problem
I had the same problem with my 5 weeks old samsung! Wanted to respond on that question.
Had to send it for repairs after i tried to fix it myself first!
saju_john said:
Hello All,
My Samsung galaxy s3 got rebooted and stuck on the boot screen "Samsung galaxy S III GT-I9300". Never rooted this device. Bought only on June 6, 2012. Just used two months.
Gave to the service center yesterday. They told my whole data on the phone will be lost. I don't have any backup also. Didn't expect this to become faulty so soon. The service center guys checked whether the phone rooted. They told me that the warranty will be void if the phone is rooted. Anyway my phone was not rooted. They tried to load the firmware using odin3.4. But it shows the status failed. They told me it could be the problem with phone's board and need to replace. Asked 3 days’ time for the repair.
I used iphone4s and blackberry previously but never had any issue. First time on android and Samsung Galaxy and gave me very bad experience.
Any chance to get new S3 phone replacement as it is used only 2 months. I am afraid that, the board replaced will be a used one and could create problems later.
Shame on Samsung for poor build quality!!
Anybody has similar expereince ?
Saju
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I'm thinking of sending mine into Samsung to have the glass replaced (my friend cracked it and I don't have a warranty), and I'm not entirely sure how they would react to having custom stuff on there, so is it possible to remove CWM at all? I don't think they'll do anything, but just to be safe.
You can flash the stock from in odin
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Googie2149 said:
I'm thinking of sending mine into Samsung to have the glass replaced (my friend cracked it and I don't have a warranty), and I'm not entirely sure how they would react to having custom stuff on there, so is it possible to remove CWM at all? I don't think they'll do anything, but just to be safe.
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Lol if you already don't have the warranty then they aren't going to say anything about having all that custom stuff on it. When you root and add custom roms to your device it voids the warranty so since your is already gone they won't say anything. Plus it isn't illegal.
If you root, then you void warranty. If they did see your CWM stuff, then you voided warranty and they prob won't fix it.
Obscured is correct. You have nothing to worry about because your NOT claiming warranty. You'll be paying for the service, and it is a hardware issue not software. Samsung police will not be busting down your door after they receive it. If it were me I'd ask them to not restore it back to stock (which they have a tendency to do with screen replacements) and to just fix it. Remember, they are working for you now, not the other way around.
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You could just flash stock or a nandroid backup (if you have made one). You can just delete cwm by deleting the cmw folder in the root directory, then unroot using SuperOneClick.
Alright, good to know. I just wasn't sure if Samsung has a habit of nitpicking about things like this even without a warranty. Now to decide if it's worth paying $100 for the repair...
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Alright, good to know. I just wasn't sure if Samsung has a habit of nitpicking about things like this even without a warranty. Now to decide if it's worth paying $100 for the repair...
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In my opinion, paying $100 for a repair on device with such a poor value is not worth it. I mean, it is almost unfathomable that a device selling for approx. $400 a year ago can't even fetch half its value at retail now. And now, worse yet, Samsung doesn't even give a rat's behind about the Galaxy Players anymore. They won't even give ICS on our devices the light of day, even though we Android faithful bought one of their Galaxy Players over an iPod Touch. Isn't Samsung trying to compete with Apple for market share in multiple areas? Who's going to invest in a future Galaxy Player with the fear of spending hundreds of dollars only to realize a measly year later that they're not getting an upgrade?
hi all,
this is my first post here, the noob video did cheer me up alot after the day ive had...
around a month ago, my phone started to have problems connecting to wifi, the problem occurs when making a connection to ANY ROUTER USING ANY KIND OF SECURITY,the phone comes back stating "authentication error", yet when i connect it to my motorola xoom tablet (set to mobile hotspot) the phone connects and functions great!?
now for my question,
samsung have voided my warranty as i flashed the software on the phone (as some asshole at the samsung call centre asked me to do,said the warranty would be ok as long as its the genuine software....what a load of rubbish that turned out to be) i have not rooted it,and they are quoting me in the vacinity of $250 us to fix it (w##kers) ,its a longshot but,can any of tell if this is a firmware problem rather than a hardware problem? it seems to me like its along the lines of firmware, as it works in only the one instance connected to my tablet..i know i did get an update from my phone company and it stopped working shortly after then...theoretically if it is just a firmware issue i could pick up on how to do the jtag trick and try and reload the firmware myself? instead of pay the same jerk who screwed me to fix it in the first place?
have any of you had your phone into samsung for the same problem? though a good search turns up many stories on power save mode etc, no one seems to have the same problem i do...HELP!!!
the other way is i guess to do a pcb swap, but i dont know how many of these are available...
i know nothing about what you all do, i am an electrical engineer with a big background in industrial electronics and computers and the last thing i want to do is spend what little free time i have modding my phone, i dont have anything against anyone who does, its just that valve amps and vinyl do alot more for me than the new stuff does...BUT if i need to do something out of nessecity, then id love to learn a few tricks you gurus could teach me to save my skin, who knows, i might be able to offer you some advice one day!!
after 4 weeks searching and reading this site amoung others,i have tried EVERYTHING software wise to rectify the problem,
samsung are not telling me what exactly the fault is and are using my flashing of the standard software as a scapegoat to say ive tamered with it.
samsung nz are a bunch of scam artists who ill never again trust with a dime of my hard earned cash and thats all i have to say about that....will be taking them to court (new zealand has a consumer rights guarantee system so their warranty does not mean jack but they still refuse to repair it)
thank you in advance for any help you can offer, i am at my wits end and regret stepping into the "smartphone" world!!!
mike
preludefan said:
hi all,
now for my question,
samsung have voided my warranty as i flashed the software on the phone (as some asshole at the samsung call centre asked me to do,said the warranty would be ok as long as its the genuine software....what a load of rubbish that turned out to be)
No root and stock firmware flashed does not void warranty .
Wifi is generally a kernel problem you can try flashing a stock firmware from here or sammobile.com.
As you mention dimes and dollars do you actually have a I9300 ??? as flash I9300 firmware on a non I9300 will brick your phone.
jje
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thanks for your reply,
yes it is definetly a gt19300, i was blown away by the number of variants out there!
so any pointers on how to deal with samsung if they refuse to fix it?
thanks
mike
JJEgan said:
preludefan said:
hi all,
now for my question,
samsung have voided my warranty as i flashed the software on the phone (as some asshole at the samsung call centre asked me to do,said the warranty would be ok as long as its the genuine software....what a load of rubbish that turned out to be)
No root and stock firmware flashed does not void warranty .
Wifi is generally a kernel problem you can try flashing a stock firmware from here or sammobile.com.
As you mention dimes and dollars do you actually have a I9300 ??? as flash I9300 firmware on a non I9300 will brick your phone.
jje
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preludefan said:
thanks for your reply,
yes it is definetly a gt19300, i was blown away by the number of variants out there!
so any pointers on how to deal with samsung if they refuse to fix it?
thanks
mike
You need to argue the case that the Samsung call centre told you to carry out steps xyz .
Alternative paid for repair then complain to Samsung re call centre .
You can try arguing the EU regulations as referred to on XDA by Adam Outler .
However does any EU legislation have similar in new Zealand .
What firmware and root is on your phone that Samsung said to flash .
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they arent saying anything of the details of the rom, but i flashed a genuine 2 degrees (phone company) software, but they could have changed it themselfs?
i have argued with them to my wits end about the law etc but they are not taking it on board, so im asking for the phone to be returned to me, then ill take them to court...paying to get it done then complaining wont work in a legal sense, as by paying,they see it as though im agreeing to it all...
i do know this however, if i do fix it myself ill post a fix incase it happens to any one else...