Has anyone tried the new LagFix apk?
It has great reviews and it seems like the developer really did his research.
Anyone try this on the note? If so, what rom setup and what are your results?
The note2 has lag???
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The note2 has lag???
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LOL, mine certainly doesn't.
I know it has virtually no lag but I love to optimize
I think it's risky with the hard brick potential (that happened on the sgs2 and original note) and the brick check app says is unknown. Especially considering there's no lag to begin with.
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Tested and working on my Galaxy Tab 2 7.0, although on my Thunderbolt which is also rooted all it says it's
Fstrim: FSTRIM: Not a typewriter for both the cache & data
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I'm all for optimizing and all that, but to use a potentially harmful "lagfix" on a device with absolutely zero lag to begin with is retarded IMHO.
The game bike race which isn't very demanding at all has lag at times....I have no idea why either...must be the game cause the phone doesn't lag at all
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The game bike race which isn't very demanding at all has lag at times....I have no idea why either...must be the game cause the phone doesn't lag at all
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That's just [email protected] coding in the game software, there certainly isn't any inherent lag in the phone itself.
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That's just [email protected] coding in the game software, there certainly isn't any inherent lag in the phone itself.
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I agree with that.
The only way that I can see someone's GN2 lagging is if they OCed and undervolted too much which is causing some instability.
I'm not saying that to the OP. That's just a general post that was somewhat related to this topic.
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That's just [email protected] coding in the game software, there certainly isn't any inherent lag in the phone itself.
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I prefer 'poor coding techniques'. Making a game isn't easy and to call it crappy coding, regardless of how bad an app is, it takes time to build. No crappy code, just poor practices and techniques.
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I tried the apk today. It actually does noticeably help. Things are loading a lot faster and smoother. It was being talked about in the Perseus kernel main thread, the logic behind the apk is sound and effective.
There has to be a downside to having it, either stability or battery life impact. I'll keep the n3 the way it is, 0 complaints.
Also, I've seen TONS and TONS of "tweaks" or "mods" like build.prop edits or scripts that supposedly speed up the systems.
Everytime someone introduces a new socalled tweak, many people are quick to say " much faster! ". Then I see the same people say that across 5+ different tweaks...yet after trying them all out theres no difference vs stock, lol true story.
I guess installing the 100 tweaks available will make your device extra extra extra extra extra extra extra super duper fast like on steroids. (Sarcasm)
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Sure as hell works with my Galaxy Nexus, and a little for my Nexus 7 and Transformer Infinity. But my Note 2? I see no difference. No lag on this beast to begin with.
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Have you guys actually read the sourced link I posted...the fix is derived from Linux and works on even the most high end systems...surely you don't think your phone is less in need of optimization than a suited out PC. To cut down on random searching reduces speak time and CPU load. I don't know why everyone is so against this.
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Have you guys actually read the sourced link I posted...the fix is derived from Linux and works on even the most high end systems...surely you don't think your phone is less in need of optimization than a suited out PC. To cut down on random searching reduces speak time and CPU load. I don't know why everyone is so against this.
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Not to sound like a douche, but do you understand the research findings? I know some people just see a bunch of terms listed which they know absolutely nothing about and then assume it does something since it looks sophisticated. After all, Android is home for placebo effects.
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Not to sound like a douche, but do you understand the research findings? I know some people just see a bunch of terms listed which they know absolutely nothing about and then assume it does something since it looks sophisticated. After all, Android is home for placebo effects.
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yeh i understand it, I'm pretty tech savvy and it is laid out in laymans-terms. i usually dont fall for gimmicks but this app has made a difference imo.
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yeh i understand it, I'm pretty tech savvy and it is laid out in laymans-terms. i usually dont fall for gimmicks but this app has made a difference imo.
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Has anyone run a bench with the apk and checked to see whether any of the areas are sped up? Run antutu 3 times. Get average of the individual testing numbers. Then again with lag fix. If the phone is faster then surely a bench will show it. Right?
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I read this this morning and found it interesting.
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...ag_occurs_more_often_in_android_than_ios.html
Makes sense why no matter how powerful our phones get they will still lag
The website is Apple Insider... that article lost all credibility to me.
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The website is Apple Insider... that article lost all credibility to me.
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+1 not a credible source
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+1 not a credible source
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The article is largely quoting or paraphrasing a Google+ post from a student who did some research into the Android code.
https://plus.google.com/100838276097451809262/posts/VDkV9XaJRGS
BTW, for the TL;DR crowd, here's the money quote:
"...on iOS all UI rendering occurs in a dedicated UI thread with real-time priority. On the other hand, Android follows the traditional PC model of rendering occurring on the main thread with normal priority."
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The article is largely quoting or paraphrasing a Google+ post from a student who did some research into the Android code.
https://plus.google.com/100838276097451809262/posts/VDkV9XaJRGS
BTW, for the TL;DR crowd, here's the money quote:
"...on iOS all UI rendering occurs in a dedicated UI thread with real-time priority. On the other hand, Android follows the traditional PC model of rendering occurring on the main thread with normal priority."
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The point he makes where you can test it yourself is brilliant.
Despite the source of the article, it did seem like a pretty good read to me and offered some decent insight as to why my Rezound, despite being essentially a flagship device, still can't match the feel of iOS. Not that I care too much, I've become accustomed to it, and it would only be frosting on the cake if they could make it so Android had that 1-to-1 feel that was mentioned.
Androids UI threads do not run at high priority like iOS and windows phone. You can read about this almost anywhere. Touching the screen on an iphone immediately halts all processing and only the display get's access to do work, so the experience is -always- fluid, at the cost of stopping all 'actual' work being done.
ICS will be better with multi-core support, but will still attempt to do work in parallel with screen updates.
But honestly, I never see any of this 'stuttering', or at least, It doesn't bother me very much if it is happening because I don't notice it.
Apple has always focused on the visuals of their products more than the actual functionality. Doesn't make it better or worse, just different. If ultra smooth transitions between things are a critical point for you, then you want an Apple device. If you prefer to focus on functionality then you probably want an android device. Just because a UI doesn't flow 100% smooth doesn't ruin the experience for me. For others it might. Google is not blind to the issue, they will eventually work it out, but for now we have what we have.
I really appreciate you posting this article as it easily explains the one big problem I've had with Android. Don't get me wrong though I have and always will continue to have an Android phone. Customization trumps fluidity. Google will correct the issue eventually as mentioned above.
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Knowing this makes me feel better about my phones and not quite so concerned with it. It actually makes perfect sense and maybe in a way makes our phones more capable.
I wonder if they will re write android to fix this and act more like ios. Maybe for android 5 lol. Doesn't Microsoft totally re write their is at some points. I'm pretty sure win7 has no win95 code in it at all.
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Knowing this makes me feel better about my phones and not quite so concerned with it. It actually makes perfect sense and maybe in a way makes our phones more capable.
I wonder if they will re write android to fix this and act more like ios. Maybe for android 5 lol. Doesn't Microsoft totally re write their is at some points. I'm pretty sure win7 has no win95 code in it at all.
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You just compared apples to oranges. Windows 8 will be MS first cross platform attempt. Which would be like comparing Chrome to Android.
Sadly even ICS doesn't solve this issue at all. Seems the route they're taking are huge hardware bumps in hopes that it will solve the issue. Good hardware cannot cover up faulty coding. I hope Google fixes it soon.
faulty coding? it's faulty because it runs differently from iOS? please, dude. it doesn't prioritize UI because it can ACTUALLY multitask, unlike iOS. that's the point. if you want a super smooth phone, leave android.
Dude we all love android here.. but if something is screwey then its screwey..no need to go Apple fanboi on us LOL
Are you talking to me? Lol.its not faulty. it's how the phone and operating system were created. If you don't like it, that doesn't mean it's faulty. Seriously?
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I usually don't get any lag but I'll take true multitasking and lag over an horrible excuse for multitasking anyday
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Really a thread about what an intern at Google thinks? Who has left? An intern.
Facebook for android was written by an intern and they have been trying to fix it ever since.
Man can't wait for root just for the fact that these useless threads will go away
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nev310 said:
I usually don't get any lag but I'll take true multitasking and lag over an horrible excuse for multitasking anyday
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Really a thread about what an intern at Google thinks? Who has left? An intern.
Facebook for android was written by an intern and they have been trying to fix it ever since.
Man can't wait for root just for the fact that these useless threads will go away
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I just saw the article and wanted to share .. fml
Such damn negativity from a simple article. Pretty sure nobody is slamming android. I'm certainly not.
And for the record, students and interns are normally who make **** happen with technology. Who do u think makes up the teams at research universities
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I just saw the article and wanted to share .. fml
Such damn negativity from a simple article. Pretty sure nobody is slamming android. I'm certainly not.
And for the record, students and interns are normally who make **** happen with technology. Who do u think makes up the teams at research universities
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Of course they are. But I wouldn't take a part time employees word as gospel on a company as large as Google.
I certainly haven't had a lag issue. This just smacks of apple fanboy
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For the past week or so I've asking myself if my Android is better or worse than my friend's iPhone with respect to hardware, aesthetics and user-freindly-ness. There are more than a few ways to tackle this question as different features appeal to different people, which is why I present this question to the whole of xda (or just the X2 forum lol) : Which one do you think is better and why?
A couple things: 1.) Im relatively new here and I dont know how often this question is askedso I'll understand if this question starts a riot and is taken down and 2.) I know there will be some bias, but I feel as this forum in particular will be honest in answering my question.
Many to thanks to anyone that happens to read this and many more to anyone that bothers responding!
Android, cause I can do whatever I want, whenever I want. The thought of clouds and cloud connect must really suck not being able to see our hear when your in a building, elevator, tunnel out remote location. Plus only $6.99 a month for insurance, iPhone is $10.99 and I prefer a one year warranty over Apple 90 day warranty.
Yes Apple is simple, simple is as simple does. Simple people like simple things!
I like to unleash, and have the option too change whatever.
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Android, cause I can do whatever I want, whenever I want. The thought of clouds and cloud connect must really suck not being able to see our hear when your in a building, elevator, tunnel out remote location. Plus only $6.99 a month for insurance, iPhone is $10.99 and I prefer a one year warranty over Apple 90 day warranty.
Yes Apple is simple, simple is as simple does. Simple people like simple things!
I like to unleash, and have the option too change whatever.
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So Im assuming iPhone's cannot run different ROMs in the way Androids can? Forgive me if I sound clueless; I have ~20 minutes of experience with Apple's phones.
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So Im assuming iPhone's cannot run different ROMs in the way Androids can? Forgive me if I sound clueless; I have ~20 minutes of experience with Apple's phones.
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Here's the thing. Iphone must jailbreak to do many of the things that android can do out if the box.
But! Iphone does one thing out of the box that android typically has to root to do: run buttery smooth, all the time. Everything Iphone does, it does better stock for stock.
But I cannot own an Iphone for one reason, if no other: the ui is SO boring it puts me to sleep. Android is much more entertaining just swiping home screens and widgets and notification panels, etc.
Just my two cents...
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I guess it boils down to what you want out of a smrtphone. If you don't care about physical keyboards, interesting ui's, screen size, you just want it to WORK, then I think you're better served by an Iphone. Not me.
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If they are better you wouldn't see us here.
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Okay, the iPhone vs. Android debate is just silly.
It all boils down to what you like.
If you don't care about customization, don't want to worry about having to set things up, want to ensure that your phone works the same as everyone else, then the iPhone is the phone to get. You know that your iPhone 4s will be the same as everyone else who has an iPhone 4s. You all will run the same OS version and get the same update at the same time. No issues with "Hey how come you have ICS and I still have Gingerbread?" No issues with waiting for your phone manufacturer to release a certain version of the OS (like we have with all the different phone manufacturers and carriers for Android).
But, if you want to customize, you want to change the UI, you want flexibility, don't mind researching which phones might best fit you, understand what the different Android OS versions are, etc, then the Android is your way.
It all depends on how much control you want over your phone. Even with Android, though, carriers make it difficult at times to allow you to have that full control. That is the current issue with the X2 and many other Motorola phones - no unlocked bootloader which makes it more difficult to upgrade the phone to the latest Android OS. But, if you have developer support, then chances are, you'll see some great things come. Fortunately, with the X2, we have some great devs out there - Nitro, Dragonzkiller, Aceoyame - that are creating some excellent custom ROMs for the X2.
But, with Android, you have to keep up with what is out there IF you want to keep customizing. You could still get an Android, not root it and not customize it and you might be fine, but you really need to investigate which phones work the best out of the box. The X2 doesn't. Too much BLUR crap in it, hence that's why we like to put on custom ROMs that remove that BLUR which in turn, helps the performance of the phone.
Okay, that was long, but it pretty much sums up that it all boils down to each persons personal preference. Just because I like Android over iOs doesn't mean it's right for the next person. You just have to investigate it and choose the one that best fits you. If you like what you chose, then it was the right choice for you. I just can't stand when people try to just say things like "Android is the best. iOs sucks" without backing it up with any facts other than personal opinion. That is NOT fair to the next person looking for a phone.
I had iphone for 5 years, starting with the first one and then the 3g and then the 4! I always jailbreaked it and it was a pain to use itunes! I loved it b4 but now with my gNote i can never consider byuin an iphone again! Too simple for me! This comes down to what u want to do with the phone, my parents use iphone cause its simple, but for somebody who wants to modify his phone, iphone is not the phone for those people! Android is developing much faster than iphone, and for me, that somethin i appreciate alot!
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iPhones are for the people who don't understand nor want to understand the technology they are holding in their hands, they just want to go as far as jail breaking their phone. Android users are the ones that tend to be more into the technology in their phones. But then there are those iPhone users who think they know technology, yet they have a hard time understanding the difference between hard drive and SD card. So I think it boils down to the person, to their interest and how much time they want to spend on their phone besides texting and playing angry birds haha
Don't hate me, I just see a lot of people with iPhones thinking they know more about this stuff while spitting out words at random like "my CPU is better than yours!" Yet they have no idea what a CPU is.
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Many thanks to everyone for the great insight. So the conclusion I draw from this thread and other deabates on the topic is that: iPhone: user freindly (not to say the Droid isn't) and simple thus making it very very appealing to the masses. It also is very limited when it comes to making modifications (which to me is quite a downfall to us but enables a Droid user to ultimately push past the iPhone user).
The Droid: Huge selection of phones. Can be modified to all hell assuming your model is fairly unlocked and if I might add, the only option for a man with big hands. Our major downfall is that some phones fall behind in development whereas the iPhone os is functionally consistent across most models.
So sorry if that was long but I really enjoy getting as much info as possible on a certain subject and presenting it to those better than me to make sure its accurate is important soooo please correct me if anything I said was wrong!!!
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I believe you now understand better than most.
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Hell
I chose the x2 OVER the I phone based on performance and customization differences IN STORE, which means I felt the x2(or any Droid in store) offered more for me to do/play with right out the box.
That's the basic difference, whether you root or jailbreak or not the DROID DOES...plain and simple
Widgets widgets widgets
many different launchers you can custom fit to your liking
Many more options
AND THEN YOU ROOT
And wow its a whole new world, get ready
Just my thoughts
Not to mention this awesome community, for the most part....
Just for the sake of rebellion I refuse to join the technologically and possibly mentally inferior software users...(iPhone) I do more than use software, I mod. And experiment
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I've never actually played around with a jailbroken iPhone but from what I've read, the only perk is a nice app store. Can anyone shed some light on this?
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I've never actually played around with a jailbroken iPhone but from what I've read, the only perk is a nice app store. Can anyone shed some light on this?
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That's basically it. For the iPods, you can change wallpaper and stuff and font and transitions and stuff. Basically what they have when they jailbreak, is what we have out of the box with android. But when we root, we have even more haha
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IDMA.DROID.X2 said:
That's basically it. For the iPods, you can change wallpaper and stuff and font and transitions and stuff. Basically what they have when they jailbreak, is what we have out of the box with android. But when we root, we have even more haha
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They still don't get cool widgets and launchers tho
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They still don't get cool widgets and launchers tho
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I could'nt survive without a good weather + clock widget. And I NEED my app killer widget.
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I've never actually played around with a jailbroken iPhone but from what I've read, the only perk is a nice app store. Can anyone shed some light on this?
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Until they started monitoring it, jailbreaking an iPhone also meant you could enable tethering for free.
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I could'nt survive without a good weather + clock widget. And I NEED my app killer widget.
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I like weatherbug. Its has the temp for your area at the left of the status bar. If you pull down the status bar, it has weather info right at the top. Not sure if it has any widgets though.
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They still don't get cool widgets and launchers tho
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I've only used the Google music widget, I put all the icons on the left and right side of the center home screen and keep the wall paper visible haha
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I'm really disappointed to know that this is a new phone and with just a few programs install that I'm not. All I'm left with is around 320mb out of 700.. Android is complete fail!!!!!!!! This is no better than my OLD ASS HD2 with 512mb Ram running Android at least I was left with around 200mb with 4 screen full of widgets and icons compared to one screen I have running on my note!
Obvious troll is obvious.
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Obviously. Go back to your hd2, we don't want you.
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if you had a captivate at 320mb you'd be about max'd out of ram (338mb)...and its linux system based kernel so keeping a certain % of ram active is good thing. you know that right? when you say install you meant running right?
How da hell I'm trolling for telling da dam truth. Your da troll for denying... You explain how does a new phone with few apps only is widget is time and folder widget . Keep in mind that everything is off like Bluetooth and data. So what happens when those turn on 250mb left....
I totally understand when you say that install mean running, thats my issue with Android. But I can't stand when fanboys deny it instead of complain in hopes of developers fixing the issue.. I normally hear da same darn excuse the system know when to stop the application, but guess what that does not work else their would be no reason for people downloading an app to stop the programs constantly running on da phone.
I don't know what's wrong with your setup but I have 400mb free ram out of 732mb, and I have widgets in 5 screens and apps open right now, and I can relate with the hd2 which I have 2 of them that I love and they're awesome devices but you can't compare it to this phone.
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Obvious troll is obvious.
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hows he a troll?? that's a very legit concern he has and he is not the only one. if you are one of those blind people who feel offended if they hear something bad about their device then that's your problem. yes truth is that out of 1gb ram, only 700mb is available and that does SUCK! and it is not android to be blamed, becuase htc phones they have sense which we all know takes lots of ram space but at least we know that it is sense taking ram space, while this phone has touchwiz which is supposed to be "light" but apparently it is not that light afterall, since there is 300mb ram missing
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hows he a troll?? that's a very legit concern he has and he is not the only one. if you are one of those blind people who feel offended if they hear something bad about their device then that's your problem. yes truth is that out of 1gb ram, only 700mb is available and that does SUCK! and it is not android to be blamed, becuase htc phones they have sense which we all know takes lots of ram space but at least we know that it is sense taking ram space, while this phone has touchwiz which is supposed to be "light" but apparently it is not that light afterall, since there is 300mb ram missing
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Coming to an xda forum saying "andriod is complete fail!!!!!!!!" is trolling. if I did the same at macrumors and said that about iOS, it would be trolling.
I am not blind, I am informed. I understand where the 300MB RAM you claim is "missing" goes to, and I understand how Android handles memory management. Is there something you can't run because you are out of RAM? No? Then quit worrying about it.
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Coming to an xda forum saying "andriod is complete fail!!!!!!!!" is trolling. if I did the same at macrumors and said that about iOS, it would be trolling.
I am not blind, I am informed. I understand where the 300MB RAM you claim is "missing" goes to, and I understand how Android handles memory management. Is there something you can't run because you are out of RAM? No? Then quit worrying about it.
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So wat do you call 320 out of 700mb running... Should I say complete success?? It is was it is, I love the idea of Android because it gives me options compared to other OS, but I'm sorry but we need the option to be able to completely close running apps.. Hate to say it, I got a playbook with at least 50 apps and guess wat no ram issues, you know why? Cause when you close a damn app the darn thing closes... Honestly can you do that with Android, let me answer dat for you hell no without your device bugging out. So wat point is having a memory management that apparently is not working good?
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hows he a troll?? that's a very legit concern he has and he is not the only one. if you are one of those blind people who feel offended if they hear something bad about their device then that's your problem. yes truth is that out of 1gb ram, only 700mb is available and that does SUCK! and it is not android to be blamed, becuase htc phones they have sense which we all know takes lots of ram space but at least we know that it is sense taking ram space, while this phone has touchwiz which is supposed to be "light" but apparently it is not that light afterall, since there is 300mb ram missing
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Tl;dr, just wanted to point out the troll only defends a troll, and trolls the legits.
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I am not blind, I am informed. I understand where the 300MB RAM you claim is "missing" goes to, and I understand how Android handles memory management. Is there something you can't run because you are out of RAM? No? Then quit worrying about it.
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Agreed, these forums are to improve our phones, to get information, and to assist others in doing so. You have 30 days to try your phone, if you don't like it, try a windows or an iPhone. Otherwise, look around the forums or ask nicely for a solution in the Q & A.
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Seriously, You might want to research and learn how memory management works with Android and other operating systems.
Also, the kill apps programs exist to stop runaway apps that were not written properly.
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Tl;dr, just wanted to point out the troll only defends a troll, and trolls the legits.
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just shut up and go talk to yourself how amazing the note u got is u know **** about ram.
Dude wat is Ur point is memory management working? No, if you say it is Ur a lier, download 50 apps and then test a playbook with 50 apps and you will notice how different the playbook handles app. Don't get me wrong I'm not bragging about playbook because they have its faults but I cant stand when fanboys act as if theirs no issue...
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Agreed, these forums are to improve our phones, to get information, and to assist others in doing so. You have 30 days to try your phone, if you don't like it, try a windows or an iPhone. Otherwise, look around the forums or ask nicely for a solution in the Q & A.
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How do you improve our phones when you act like the problems don't exist? Exactly they will never be improved!!!
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How do you improve our phones when you act like the problems don't exist? Exactly they will never be improved!!!
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They're improving all the time. I guess I don't know what exactly you expect out of a PHONE that has some tech capabilities. And, obviously, this phone does not suit your needs if you need to be running a ton of apps at the same time.
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To the OP - no concern is invalid. These forums exist to handle questions and problems, you have a concern. Yes something is a memory hog out of the box. No, Android isn't perfect - you are right. Could you have said something other than "Android sux". Sure, but we've all said things that were over the top when we were mad or frustrated.
As for your concern, first thing to consider is how much memory is reserved for that high-def screen (slightly better resolution than 720 HD). Then how much is reserved for AT&T bloatware that runs all the time, like Mark the Spot which I didn't know about until yesterday... thanks to this forum. Wait for ICS, see how it performs, if you still don't like the situation then root and try a cooked rom.
To those calling him a troll. Stop being Android fanboys, you can act better than the iPhone sheep. The OP has a legitimate concern, whether you want to hear it or not.
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To those calling him a troll. Stop being Android fanboys, you can act better than the iPhone sheep. The OP has a legitimate concern, whether you want to hear it or not.
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He has a concern. It's nonsense, but sure, he's obviously concerned. Can't argue that.
If you have memory left, then yes, to Android that's a win. Android keeps your most recently used applications in memory so that next time you start them, they load up instantaneously instead of having to read from NAND. I'm not doubting that your phone may be a bit laggy, but it's not the RAM. It may be the TW overlay with it's hooks so deep into the system thats causingit, but it's nto a shortage of RAM. My phone flies with 50 apps installed, try a ROM from the dev section if you're not satisfied with your performance.
Threads like these we should just give an answer to, downvote, and walk away, like I'm doing right now.
I have something to say to all developers:
When you make a ROM, please don't say: "Awesome battery backup" or "Great battery life". It doesn't tell me anything AT ALL. I suggest when making ROMs test their battery life, make them go through browsing, movies, playing games, calling and ALL WHILE STAYING CONNECTED TO 3G/HPRS/EDGE, not WiFi. There are scripts that can help you with that and ways to do it, such as:
http://androidforums.com/incredible-accessories/102353-battery-stress-test-htc-1350mah-stock-battery-vs-dx-tp2-1500mah-battery.html
We all know WiFi takes less battery than a regular OTA data connection. I think all the ROMs here are good, some are great and some are not. But I'd like to see that so I can take more seriously what you're posting on the Features list of the ROM.
That is all.
I believe you posted in the wrong section, this should belong to the general section.But anyway you are partially right, most developers do test the battery life, not as intensive as you said but they tested it anyway, besides none of us do all the things you mentioned at the same time and even if you do thats the minority of us.This is related to the (!!!!!awesome rom ,Blazingly fast!!!!!!!! ) rom titles that are all arround this section
My AOSP doesn't even have 3G for god sake
Ace-ing all tests.
Sure, what I'm trying to convey is professionalism. Devs say: "Awesome battery backup". BACKUP? What the hell is that supposed to mean? As a user and as a programmer, I would like to know how good is a ROM before testing it and then sadly, wasting my time.
Wrong section, but you have a valid point. I don't trust the word of anyone, most of the things here are just placebos. Posting screenshots for battery life would help too. In fact, I think even scripts need to show such things or explain them.
AlterJack said:
Sure, what I'm trying to convey is professionalism. Devs say: "Awesome battery backup". BACKUP? What the hell is that supposed to mean? As a user and as a programmer, I would like to know how good is a ROM before testing it and then sadly, wasting my time.
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yeah, i've heard that term many time and still wondering what in the world is it really means. "battery backup". lol
Wrong section. Report it next time. Moving.
Yea lol, and i hate those who claim that their battery life can last for 2-3 days, ***** plz, ur using the phone without normal usage (no internet browsing, gaming etc.) If ur going to live with ur phone with that just go and buy a Nokia 3310
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I'm with you
ROMFlasherAce said:
Yea lol, and i hate those who claim that their battery life can last for 2-3 days, ***** plz, ur using the phone without normal usage (no internet browsing, gaming etc.) If ur going to live with ur phone with that just go and buy a Nokia 3310
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I feel you.....my Defy only lasted 10h when overclocked + heavy browsing + Temple Run lol
EmoBoiix3 said:
I feel you.....my Defy only lasted 10h when overclocked + heavy browsing + Temple Run lol
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THX, btw wtf lol Ace lasted around 3-4 hours for that usage, or even worse, im curious why Defy is in the same price range as Ace in Hong Kong but it is a lot better lol.....not fair!!!!
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ROMFlasherAce said:
THX, btw wtf lol Ace lasted around 3-4 hours for that usage, or even worse, im curious why Defy is in the same price range as Ace in Hong Kong but it is a lot better lol.....not fair!!!!
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The Motorola Defy .
Stuck at Froyo .
Uses .sbf for flashing instead of .tar.md5 .
Once you flash a higher GC version you cannot downgrade , unlike Samsung .
This device has false certs on it being water resistant .
But there is a great dev community and their ICS is almost full-fledged , even Camera and Full H/W works
Ace-ing all tests.
You are posting on the wrong section, as you're not doing any developing at all.
Why don't you do yourself the testing and post the results?
Independent battery life testing under controled conditions would be an interesting idea.
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This device has false certs on it being water resistant .
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so its not actually water resistant?
Well, I don't agree. Actually devs could say their ROM gives you sweet dreams if they wanted to. There's ROM review threads where you can post your experience with each ROM and check what other users say, then make your choice.
Really, how much time can you waste testing a ROM related to the time it takes to cook one?
Don't trust the claims on the ROM thread?
Don't use it.
Didn't like it? Didn't get what was promised? The battery life isn't great?
Then post your experience and let other users know.
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Well, I don't agree. Actually devs could say their ROM gives you sweet dreams if they wanted to. There's ROM review threads where you can post your experience with each ROM and check what other users say, then make your choice.
Really, how much time can you waste testing a ROM related to the time it takes to cook one?
Don't trust the claims on the ROM thread?
Don't use it.
Didn't like it? Didn't get what was promised? The battery life isn't great?
Then post your experience and let other users know.
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err that's just the problem! They say that "this rom has awesome battery" without testing it to the edge! They sometimes test it only with normal usage without wifi, heavy gaming, 3g etc. So of course if they say the battery is good users would really expect something from it but end up getting disappointed because it didn't live up to it's word! So yeah "Don't trust the claims on the ROM thread?
Don't use it."
If that's the case, no one would even be using any rom right right now, not even stock.
an0nym0us_ said:
so its not actually water resistant?
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It's able to handle splashes of water , like up to 1m
Ace-ing all tests.
Don't worry, I'm going to start doing the tests myself. And no, I'm not developing anything at all, but, so what? I'm fed up with the "all-high-and-mighty" attitude some devs (some, not all) have around here in XDA. Let this remind us we were all users once.
But, anyhow, I believe adding some quality standards that need to be met in order to release a ROM will not only increase the ROMs quality but also filter bad ROMs with devs that do not update their ROMs or just sh*tty ROMs that make no sense at all and I've seen my share around here...
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I'm fed up with the "all-high-and-mighty" attitude some devs (some, not all) have around here in XDA. Let this remind us we were all users once.
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I love you for saying that.
it doesnt matter if one has no idea of making roms . everyone should be
equal so stop looking at devs like they are all-high-and-mighty as well as devs feeling the same
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Anyway, I'd like to propose that quality standards are enforced here on the forums, so when you download something, you know it has to be good since it meets certain conditions. I have some ideas about it, but a discussion is long overdue. Suggestions, anyone?
Why are their sooooooo many people having problems with their S3?? I've had mine since launch day and cannot see any flaws what so ever. "my screens flickering" "pink tint on my screen" "laggy" you obviously done something wrong to have these problems....i don't mean to sound a knob but all I ever see is people having problems and possibly nit picking at stuff that isn't important
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Well said!
I'm **** sick of seeing people complaining about stupid things. Non-problems 99% of the time.
Look at the latest one, some guy complaining about icon spacing. Wtf.
If the s3 forum is gonna be like this then I'm not gonna involve myself in it and stick to just the galaxy nexus forum.
This video says it all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
nodstuff said:
Well said!
I'm **** sick of seeing people complaining about stupid things. Non-problems 99% of the time.
Look at the latest one, some guy complaining about icon spacing. Wtf.
If the s3 forum is gonna be like this then I'm not gonna involve myself in it and stick to just the galaxy nexus forum.
This video says it all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Its just ridiculous mate....they've obviously done something to have all these problems. My wifi works just fine, I have no issues with my display, the RAM usage is fine, and I couldn't give a **** about the icon spacing lol
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You guys have to remember that these type of forums seem to amplify the size of problems.
Also, the phone is not completely free of bugs and defects CAN and WILL happen. It's a normal part of the manufacturing process for some things to have less than stellar quality. Don't call bluff on everything.
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Come on guys play nice here. Not everyone's a tech head and simple problems to some can be like rocket science to others, and insulting a new member cos you don't like the question is just wrong.
bigb252 said:
You guys have to remember that these type of forums seem to amplify the size of problems.
Also, the phone is not completely free of bugs and defects CAN and WILL happen. It's a normal part of the manufacturing process for some things to have less than stellar quality. Don't call bluff on everything.
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Yeah, this.
On a forum like this, people are more likely to post about problems that they are experiencing with their device.
Imagine a forum full of posts like: OMG I have 23 apps open at the same time while watching a 1080p YouTube video and it's so smooth wow lol I love this phone it's so much faster than my girlfriends iPhone lol
If you're having a problem with your new phone, you make a post about it, hoping that someone more knowledgeable will help you out. If you are enjoying the phone in your everyday life and it's working well, nobody really makes random posts about that, do they?
Some people do have problems. Just because YOUR phone isn't laggy doesn't mean that there is no lag in any Galaxy S III device out there. Just because YOUR camera works doesn't mean that some people might have problems with camera force closing. And so on...
Of course, some people just are never happy - there are those as well!