My Note II is having problems remembering which apps I select to be default as well as putting group messages I receive into a single thread, and both of these problems have been persistent across multiple different roms, even with a full wipe in between. Does anybody know what could possibly cause bugs to persist even if I do a complete wipe?
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Thank you for that incredibly helpful post.
Do you reinstall apps after the wipe? If you do a clean wipe and keep getting the problem I would look for an app you installed before the problem showed up the first time, especially one with permissions about your sms. try freezing it. But then agsin IDKS about ghis stuff. Good luck
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A little background--I'm not a newbie and have been running custom roms on my Fascinate for many months (and my Droid before it), but I'm also not an expert or programmer. OK, with that out of the way, here's the issue. When JT came out with the first version of CM7 I switched to it from the Froyo CommRom. Since CM7 had a lot of issues in the early days, I carefully followed this sticky and returned to CommRom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124391
I've since had a pattern of getting severe force closes, to the point that the phone become non-functional, after several days of everything working fine. This has happened with CommRom, Evil Fascinate, CM7, and currently JT's Vanilla Gingerbread. I've gone back to stock many times, have cleared everything (including data), have run the ext4 formatter, have tried different radios (currently on EC09), and have tried different roms. In each case everything runs wonderfully for 2-4 days, then FC's begin. I use Titanium Backup Pro to restore things, but have been doing so without restoring data, since some say that causes FC's. I've also unchecked the options to have Google back up data, since some say that causes FC's.
I'm out of ideas and am getting tired of clearing data and starting over every few days. I suppose I could restore things to stock and see how that runs, but that might be too painful to survive. Anyone have any other ideas?
You mentioned that you restore apps with Titanium. Do you restore only downloaded apps, or system apps as well? Different ROMS often have different versions of system apps, which can cause problems when restoring.
I'd like to see this topic explored a bit deeper. My girlfriend and I both have Fascinates as well, and each of us sees significant force-close rates...not to the point where the phone doesn't function...but 5-10 per day.
Is this simply a chronic fascinate problem on the newer ROMS (we've used MIUI and Vanilla GB).
Have you tried going 4 days without any restore of any kind?
Try a fresh install from atlas/pit/ed05 and go with that for 4 days... No restores.
Probably not the answer you want, but it sounds like your backups contain corrupt data.
KaceMN said:
I'd like to see this topic explored a bit deeper. My girlfriend and I both have Fascinates as well, and each of us sees significant force-close rates...not to the point where the phone doesn't function...but 5-10 per day.
Is this simply a chronic fascinate problem on the newer ROMS (we've used MIUI and Vanilla GB).
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no its not a fascinate problem, its more likely user error... you must be installing apps & data with tibu. when jumping roms, only restore app's only. Also another thing to try is, boot into cwm, wipe cache, dalvik, and fix permissions.
Fwiw I very seldom ever get a FC...
I've been following the same pattern of behavior with the switching of ROMs and backing up with Titanium by restoring data and apps. My Fascinate picked up a number of bad habits along the way: phantom back button and keyboard button pressing, screen waking back up after I shut it off, and some force closes but nothing like some are reporting here.
I recently switched to PWGB which wipes all data. I used Titanium to restore contacts and text messages only and re-downloaded all the apps from the market.
Since the wipe everything has been smooth and error free.
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I recently switched to PWGB which wipes all data. I used Titanium to restore contacts and text messages only and re-downloaded all the apps from the market.
Since the wipe everything has been smooth and error free.
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you can use titanium to restore apps, long as you install app only.... do not install app+ data, thats where you run into problems.
I am experiencing this same issue. I first upgraded to CM7 nightlies back around August and that seemed to be the source of the issue. Each time it occurred, I would wipe data and it would disappear for several days or weeks. I then switched to jt's Vanilla GB, and had the same issue. Now I am on CM7.1 and am continuing to have the same problem. Wiping data seems to fix the problem, but it consistently returns after several days.
I did have some success with disabling sync and clearing data for the Contacts Storage and Google Framework applications, which seemed to stop the force-closing temporarily, but they did ultimately return. This only seemed to work for me once.
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I am experiencing this same issue. I first upgraded to CM7 nightlies back around August and that seemed to be the source of the issue. Each time it occurred, I would wipe data and it would disappear for several days or weeks. I then switched to jt's Vanilla GB, and had the same issue. Now I am on CM7.1 and am continuing to have the same problem. Wiping data seems to fix the problem, but it consistently returns after several days.
I did have some success with disabling sync and clearing data for the Contacts Storage and Google Framework applications, which seemed to stop the force-closing temporarily, but they did ultimately return. This only seemed to work for me once.
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download disk usage from the market and check to see how full your /datadata folder is. I bet its full. there is a thread on rootzwiki about. you can either delete some apps or jt has a tweak to fix the issue.
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Have you tried going 4 days without any restore of any kind?
Try a fresh install from atlas/pit/ed05 and go with that for 4 days... No restores.
Probably not the answer you want, but it sounds like your backups contain corrupt data.
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I agree with this. Last summer I ran into a series of similar issues (fc and what not) on several roms. What I learned for myself is i never restore ANYTHING. What I do use tho is APP LIST BACKUP which is a very convenient and fast way to download apps fresh from the market. I currently enjoy a fc free phone
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I've tried everything I can think of or find in this subject but I can't figure it out.
I'm getting FCs all over and seemingly randomly.
There's no one program doing it either.
I've used cyanogen 7 7/17 version with glitch kernel (both 11 and 12) and the v3 kernel. Maybe the stock but I don't remember.
Also flashed the dl09 or which ever radio was recommended for cm7 on the ROM list sticky.
Tried the nighties and am on not the recent one but the one right before it with stock and glitch 11 and 12. Also tried before and after v6 super charger which seemed to make my launcher before faster and without the stopped responding dialog.
I also use the ultimate kernel removing script between kernels.
Here's what I've already done to try to fix it:
Wipe big 3. fives it for awhile then starts up in force.
Wiped to stock 2 or 3 times. Still happens.
Fixed permissions. Works longest so far but still starts up again later.
Wipe cache and data in manage applications settings menu for creasing programs. Works for a while usually but then goes
back to crashing.
I followed ask instructions to install everything properly.
The only thing is that
do I need a special bootloader with nighties and stock kernel?
What am I missing here? It seems like it's related to wifi because I can keep things stable a little longer with wifi off but it is not always 100%. Definitely related to internet. Also seems like the cache reaches 2-3 megs when programs crash
browser seems to be more likely to crash. Will crash constantly and I'll open up Firefox or opera wends everything is peachy. I think neither ox those browsers crash from what I can tell.
Oh and could it be gapps somehow. I'm not sure but it might be a case built that all the crashing programs are gapps.
I've tried the new version 2.2.5 I think posted somewhere and the original 2.2.3 I think. I'm pretty sure they both crash.
I'm maybe to frustrated to see what's right in front of me and I maybe have forgotten an important detail so please forgive and I'll be happy to provide any info.
This is near perfect and that's the thing that's holding me back right now.
Anyone else have this happen to them? Any advise?
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How did you originally come to cm7..ie. What was your previous rom and kernel prior to making the switch?
What steps did you take to get to
mtd format?
And lastly I read your whole OP but am still unsure if you've tried Odin'ing a stock VZW official rom to start from scratch? (ie. Eb01,dl09, or ed05)
Edit: Also did you restore any apps or system data via titanium backup?
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I've come to cm7 at least twice from a stock froyo ROM. I followed the directions in the sticky exactly. At least twice.
I did restore titanium but not from non-mtd. I reinstalled every app one by one after upgrading.
I'm thinking it might be the wrong gapps. If browser is a part of gapps, I'd betting on it then. It seems the fc's might all be related to
the various gapps.
That's the only thing that I can think if that I haven't tried.
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Here's the latest gapps.zip includes market...don't know if you've tried this oneand I don't think it contains anything for the browser, but i'm not sure...its for Mtd builds.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1191063
Edit: i'm also assuming you've ran fix permissions via cwm or terminal emulator right?
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I'm making you assume a lot, sorry. Yeah. Did all that.
I'm trying to isolate it. I'm seeing that the force closings are maybe not so random.
It's the browser, google services framework and programs that I guess rely on browser. They are programs that access the http protocol. Reddit/f5, Chan browser etc. I've yet to have a program crash that was not accessing the internet like chuzzle.
Gmail does sometimes too.
Anyway, if they fc I go into manage applications and usually clear cache for the offending program Anne it works again until the cache gets up around 2 or 3 megs give or take.
I know people have been complaining about the data cutting in and out on this ROM so maybe that's involved.
I originally thought it was wifi because it seemed to only happen on wifi but i'm getting it on 3g but not as often.
I'm thinking that the data appears to be on but isn't and it's confusing programs but then there would be others with the problem. The other theory is that my cache space is fried.
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In case someone finds this buried down here with the same issue, here's how I think I fixed it.
Wipe data again. Make sure you let the gapp installer install everything itself.
Titanium backup: restore missing apps (double check for went google apps) and data. Or hand install your apps and restore data.
I have the install location set to original.
That seemed to work even with the seeming wifi cut out and the whole thing.
I also didn't install Firefox or opera this time. That shouldn't be the problem but i'm recording it here anyway just in case.
Good luck
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So I just flashed the MIUI Alpha 4 rom from the Development forums and was restoring everything from Titanium Backup when I ran into a problem. When I restored my system data it restored all of my messages as well (it says 700~, but I think it is more) and now I can't open the app. It just immediately force closes when I try. I have tried rebooting to no avail, so does anyone else have advice? And I know it is my fault for backing up my texts, they weren't important but I didn't think it would hurt.
Also, a little off topic from the rest of the post, but is there a way to restore all of my previously downloaded apps without going through each one individually and giving it permission to install? I have nearly 100 apps and its just annoying to go through each one haha.
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I have tried most of the JB Roms for the Galaxy S3, trying to see what would bother me less in every rom as a missing or not working feature.
I am facing the same problem with almost all roms (but not with all).
As soon as I bring back my applications and data through Titanium backup (never restoring the system files of course) then when I go to Settings/Applications Manager and try to scroll through the installed applications it always freezes and I get the message "Unfortunately, Settings has Stopped" and I get back to home screen.
As I said I did not had the problem only with a couple of roms (not remembering which ones though) but having it most of those I flashed.
All the roms have always been flashed on totally blank mediums since I have always used full wipes (tried to reflash a couple of them on top just to see if this would fix the problem but it did not)
Note that all applications do scroll normally and very fast in other programs also listing the installed applications, either through Titanium Backup or even in the drawer where all apps literally fly when scrolling.
Any help or advice would be greatly.
Does it work ok before you restore apps from Titanium Backup? If it does, try just restoring the apps one at a time and testing after each one. I suspect there's a duff application in there that's been restored, and that's causing the problem
Alternatively just reinstall the apps from the Play Store rather than using TB.
Thank you anthropolyte, man you are fast.
Thought of many things related to JB (because up until v4.0.4 I did not have this issue with - almost - the same applications installed) but I did not think for a moment that a specific application could be the issue. I will re-flash the rom later today and try it your way.
I will report back in case someone faces the same issue.
You're welcome - good luck!
Dear jsfero, did you manage to solve that problem? I'm just facing the same. Firstly I thought it was due to blackm* app but after uninstall it nothing changed. Then I thought it may have to do with apps in drawer showing the same name. Then I kept one and uninstalled the other. Nothing changed. I'm just a bit bored with this situation. My only difference is that I occurred to me also with ICS, not only with JB or CM10.
Could you provide me with some light about this issue?
Many thanks in advance.
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Dear jsfero, did you manage to solve that problem? I'm just facing the same. Firstly I thought it was due to blackm* app but after uninstall it nothing changed. Then I thought it may have to do with apps in drawer showing the same name. Then I kept one and uninstalled the other. Nothing changed. I'm just a bit bored with this situation. My only difference is that I occurred to me also with ICS, not only with JB or CM10.
Could you provide me with some light about this issue?
Many thanks in advance.
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Unfortunately, after having tried almost everything from re-flashing to re-downloading all my apps, I could not manage to find out the source of this problem.
It is only just by accident that I found out that a couple of ROMs are not causing any problem and the phone works perfectly well. The one I do remember and I do use now as my main daily usage ROM is the one from Sotmax.
Now, I don't know if this problem is the outcome of a 'bad' combination or bad coexistence of certain programs from kernel or Rom, all I know is that my exact same Titanium back with over 300 apps is the same one I tried on all the Roms so I doubt that the problem is coming the applications side. It was always as if the amount of applications / data was too high for the Roms to handle and crashed the application. And all the sudden one day, I simply realized that with Sotmax's Rom and same applications installed via Titanium did not cause any problem or malfunction.
I even changed kernels, from stock to Siyah and now Perseus, the problem seems to be gone for good with this Rom. I am sure that I must have found a one or two other Roms which did not cause the problem either, unfortunately I did not like them that much to keep them and remember which one they were.
HTH
I had the same problem as well unfortunately, also couldn't access App info/app size
Had to uninstall some apps, then reinstalled them again
But I can't install broken Sword without getting the problem again
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Yes, I can confirm that Broken Sword game causes App Info to crash. Another one that I found is from Samsung Apps called "Catch The Monkey". Troubleshooting this was time consuming as I had to uninstall each app in the sequence (refering to appbrain.com which has the sequence of apps I installed from Google Play) and keep testing whether App Info crashes or not.
Hi all,
I'm having an issue with Hyperdrive RSL12 but maybe there's a more generic fix. Basically every 10-15mins ill be using the phone and it will just stop responding to touchscreen input for 3-5 seconds. I generally keep most of the unnecessary features turn off (smart stay etc) and keep very few apps open. I've also tried the clear memory option in task manager. Wiped dalvik and chache once too. Nothing seems to fix the problem. Has anyone else experienced this on Hyperdrive or other ROMS? Is there anything else i should be trying short of wiping everything and starting from scratch? Thanks for any advice!
Sorry if this is the wrong forum for this question. I can't post to dev forums yet.
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Hi all,
I'm having an issue with Hyperdrive RSL12 but maybe there's a more generic fix. Basically every 10-15mins ill be using the phone and it will just stop responding to touchscreen input for 3-5 seconds. I generally keep most of the unnecessary features turn off (smart stay etc) and keep very few apps open. I've also tried the clear memory option in task manager. Wiped dalvik and chache once too. Nothing seems to fix the problem. Has anyone else experienced this on Hyperdrive or other ROMS? Is there anything else i should be trying short of wiping everything and starting from scratch? Thanks for any advice!
Sorry if this is the wrong forum for this question. I can't post to dev forums yet.
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You should do a clean flash with a factory data wipe just to be sure any changes you might have made since installing HyperDrive aren't the culprit.
Make a full nandroid backup first just in case it has no effect.
You might also want to try and "retrace your steps" so to speak.
How long ago did this issue appear?
Were any changes made around that time, particularly changes related to performance, like CPU governors/frequencies or I/O scheduler (note that changes also includes installing apps, as rarely you'll get a troublesome one that starts at boot)?
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