Is it? I'm not into using htcdev and I'm on hboot 1.9. I'd like to just have root access with having to flash anything. Possible?
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Is it? I'm not into using htcdev and I'm on hboot 1.9. I'd like to just have root access with having to flash anything. Possible?
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Why on earth would you not want S-OFF???
It makes everything easier, I think its redundant to make anything available to the people that are s-on or at least to the people that choose to be s-on
Get DirtyRacun S-OFF then you'll be headache free
Boatiy said:
Why on earth would you not want S-OFF???
It makes everything easier, I think its redundant to make anything available to the people that are s-on or at least to the people that choose to be s-on
Get DirtyRacun S-OFF then you'll be headache free
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On the contrary, I'd love to be s-off, I simply choose not to use the htcdev route. I was s-off before my mini sd port took a crap and I had to swap. Sadly I now have hboot 1.19 and can no longer use panda.
So my thinking was if I can at least get root until a method to s-off doesn't involve using htcdev comes along, I'd be happy.
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jlechner said:
On the contrary, I'd love to be s-off, I simply choose not to use the htcdev route. I was s-off before my mini sd port took a crap and I had to swap. Sadly I now have hboot 1.19 and can no longer use panda.
So my thinking was if I can at least get root until a method to s-off doesn't involve using htcdev comes along, I'd be happy.
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Why don't you want to use htcdev?
jlechner said:
On the contrary, I'd love to be s-off, I simply choose not to use the htcdev route. I was s-off before my mini sd port took a crap and I had to swap. Sadly I now have hboot 1.19 and can no longer use panda.
So my thinking was if I can at least get root until a method to s-off doesn't involve using htcdev comes along, I'd be happy.
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You can't flash a custom recovery without unlocking your bootloader and part of the S-OFF process requires you to unlock your bootloader using htcdev
I'm just going to assume the answer is no since everyone seems to be dancing around it. Not trying to be a jerk, it's just that almost every question I ask on this site turns into a debate rather than someone simply saying yes or no.
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No you cannot root without unlock or s-off
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No you cannot root without unlock or s-off
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Thank you.
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Related
http://twitter.com/#!/alpharevx/status/104312779334369280
<Warning> People on Evo 3D getting the new OTA: do not update yet, unless you've already ran Revolutionary to S-OFF.
Yezzir, just saw that
(I am Un-Rooted, But I want to root today!) Am I reading this correctly? do NOT update with the OTA (8/18/2011) update, UNLESS I am already rooted?
So if I root today is it safe to update with that OTA update that came out today *8/18/2011?
I think the update does patch the current root method.
Plus for piece of mind don't ever accept OTA updates from sprint or HTC if you like your root and s-off.
I don't know why some people insist on running a update knowing in the back of their mind they'll possibly/probably loose root, and who knows for how long. Just wait a day or two for the devs to implement it in their ROMs.
You can still take the update because HTC just released the bootloader unlocked method for the HTC EVO 3d.
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You can still take the update because HTC just released the bootloader unlocked method for the HTC EVO 3d
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I see absolutely no reason why you would say that...why lose warranty when we dont have to ?
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danny6514 said:
I see absolutely no reason why you would say that...why lose warranty when we dont have to ?
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I'm not telling people to update I'm just saying if they did they can still unlocked it with HTC method instead of waiting for revolutionary method.
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I'm not telling people to update I'm just saying if they did they can still unlocked it with HTC method instead of waiting for revolutionary method.
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I heard people were having problems with custom recovery with HTC unlocked bootloader.
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raymond4 said:
I'm not telling people to update I'm just saying if they did they can still unlocked it with HTC method instead of waiting for revolutionary method.
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Using thier method gets you nowhere.
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HTC unlocker = clusterfuck
Revolution = the correct way.
yea not understanding htc way ... unlocked bootloader but you still have s-on ?
Nobody even knows how HTC's unlock even works. There are Sensation users with S-Off and they used HTC's method. Unfortunately, there's about 10 posts like those above to 1 post of actual information about it.
Its looks like its a partial unlock.
I'm sticking with revolutionary, I have root, everything is working awesome, n I didn't lose my warranty
So your saying since I have s-off with revolutionary, I can take the update and still have s-off? Also will this update break root?
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steam374 said:
So your saying since I have s-off with revolutionary, I can take the update and still have s-off? Also will this update break root?
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If you take the ota through system updates and if you have a custom ROM and recovery it will not allow you to update. It will give you an error message. If you decide to lose the custom recovery and go forward with the ota it will lock your phone with S-on and you will have no way going back to 2.3.3. You will be stuck with lastest ota 2.3.4 with S-on and no root. Then if you decide after that you can't get back to 2.3.3 and think since you can't go back might as well go forward with HTC's bootloader unlock method. It will unlock the bootloader but you still will have S-on and noway of flashing a custom recovery which means no root. If your dying for this update check out the dev section and I believe you can update the prl, kernel, firmware mins the hboot. Check it out. If it was me I would wait for revolutionary or a team that knows what they are doing to release an rooted ota.
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If you take the ota through system updates and if you have a custom ROM and recovery it will not allow you to update. It will give you an error message. If you decide to lose the custom recovery and go forward with the ota it will lock your phone with S-on and you will have no way going back to 2.3.3. You will be stuck with lastest ota 2.3.4 with S-on and no root. Then if you decide after that you can't get back to 2.3.3 and think since you can't go back might as well go forward with HTC's bootloader unlock method. It will unlock the bootloader but you still will have S-on and noway of flashing a custom recovery which means no root. If your dying for this update check out the dev section and I believe you can update the prl, kernel, firmware mins the hboot. Check it out. If it was me I would wait for revolutionary or a team that knows what they are doing to release an rooted ota.
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This is all so confusing .... Haha
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Honestly I knw that the new update takes care of a few bugs but seriously why update n lose all these goodies when I had my og evo I know a few ppl who updated to 2.3.3 n after that they were stuck trying to go back while I was still enjoying cm7 lol just joking but on the real I would wait cuz is not like ur gaining a lot with the update
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This is all so confusing .... Haha
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Yes if you do the ota update you will lose everything...
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Will Revolutionary be working on a way to root hboot 1.5.000?
I updated my phone like an idiot, lost root, and now I want root again.
I'm not stupid enough to do the HTC unlock though.
Yeah just hold off for now.
I'm shocked that quite a few of you did this update before checking here to see if it was ok. Knowing how our brand of "freedom" is frowned upon.
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speedy0339 said:
Will Revolutionary be working on a way to root hboot 1.5.000?
I updated my phone like an idiot, lost root, and now I want root again.
I'm not stupid enough to do the HTC unlock though.
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Is your hboot still S-off? If so, youre probably able to reflash recovery and regain root
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You just need to follow the "UNROOT" instructions which will roll your Hboot back and then run Revolution again.... (*Or at least thats what I understand from all the reading I have done.) The method they used to get us permanent NAND unlock seems to truly be permanent so you just have to use the HTC Bootloader unlock, then use that to roll the HBOOT back in order to use Revolutionary.
*I have not done this and never will have to but this is my understanding. As always YMMV and if you BRICK IT,well, you already BOUGHT IT.
!!!!NEVER ACCEPT OTA UPDATES!!!!
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You just need to follow the "UNROOT" instructions which will roll your Hboot back and then run Revolution again.... (*Or at least thats what I understand from all the reading I have done.)
!!!!NEVER ACCEPT OTA UPDATES!!!!
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It will read it as an old version and not let you update it
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It will read it as an old version and not let you update it
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Hit up that guy who posted that reply. I am pretty sure he did it and redid it a couple times. (*I think)
FORGET IT! That guy actually still had his S-off from Revolutionary and DID NOT take the OTA which is how your NAND was relocked. For now, either sit tight and wait, again, for Rev and Unrevoked to hopefully cook something up or use the HTC method and enjoy half root.
Sorry bud....
I hope so... I was chatting yesterday with them at their IRC channel and they were saying it may not happen....
I am sitting tight devs here do wonders
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Hit up that guy who posted that reply. I am pretty sure he did it and redid it a couple times. (*I think)
FORGET IT! That guy actually still had his S-off from Revolutionary and DID NOT take the OTA which is how your NAND was relocked. For now, either sit tight and wait, again, for Rev and Unrevoked to hopefully cook something up or use the HTC method and enjoy half root.
Sorry bud....
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I heard HTC released a bootloader unlock, am I wrong
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sand1303 said:
I heard HTC released a bootloader unlock, am I wrong
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It's not a full unlock, Nand is still locked & S-on rendering it useless.
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Ima sit tight.
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I'm having a replacement shipped to me Monday u guys think it will be 1.5? My evo,s front camera stopped working and I can't keep signal. They said it was a common problem on this phone. Free replacement
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filebug said:
I'm having a replacement shipped to me Monday u guys think it will be 1.5? My evo,s front camera stopped working and I can't keep signal. They said it was a common problem on this phone. Free replacement
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Highly doubt it will be 1.50.000
I had a complete stock 3D with OTA, HBoot 1.5, HTCdev Unlocked, S-ON (still)...
Thought I was screwed when I wanted to root but follow Zedomax's instructions in the following link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1225974
I'm successfully running Cho's rom from MikMik. Downside is you have to use CWM but it still works!!!
Easiest root I've ever done!!
But you still have to do HTCs method I'm waiting so I don't have to
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speedy0339 said:
Will Revolutionary be working on a way to root hboot 1.5.000?
I updated my phone like an idiot, lost root, and now I want root again.
I'm not stupid enough to do the HTC unlock though.
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All I can really say is why would you update ur phone? Are u new to Android? If so then I understand otherwise why???
Opman711 said:
I had a complete stock 3D with OTA, HBoot 1.5, HTCdev Unlocked, S-ON (still)...
Thought I was screwed when I wanted to root but follow Zedomax's instructions in the following link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1225974
I'm successfully running Cho's rom from MikMik. Downside is you have to use CWM but it still works!!!
Easiest root I've ever done!!
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Too bad you did get a chance to do Revolutionary, THAT is the easiest (well, next to Unrevokded) that I have ever seen.
Yeah, but now you have voided your warranty.
speedy0339 said:
Yeah, but now you have voided your warranty.
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Huh? Not sure I follow.
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Huh? Not sure I follow.
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You used HTC's unlock method, so you voided your warranty...
Ok so I've had this question forever and I'm not sure its ever been addressed.
I rooted via revolutionary so I have s off.
for whatever reason I decided I wanted to have h boot 1.5.
I know about the kernel dilemma with hboot 1.5.
Does anyone if that would still affect me even with s off?
Does anyone have a link to unit 1.4 that I can try and flash through recov?
Thanks guys,
RJ
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cant flash back to a previous version of hboot. tried it lol
Don't flash to hboot 1.5 sir its a one way street.you have already an S off
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I really want to know what possessed you to want hboot 1.5
What benefit is there to flashing hboot 1.5?
DarkManX4lf said:
What benefit is there to flashing hboot 1.5?
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There is no benefit. Its locked down so there is absolutely no reason to upgrade unless you don't like having root access.
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If you ever wanted the newer hboot version (I don't see why anyone would ever want it) you could flash it but I don't know if it will keep S-Off. If it does, it will be locked so you might have to use HTC unlock to get the features of S-Off. Even then, you might still have to flash kernels via fastboot.
TLDR: Don't flash HBOOT 1.50.
Wanna trade phones? I've got 1.5 and I really wish I didn't.
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I really want to know what possessed you to want hboot 1.5
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Haha because 1.5 is obviously a bigger number than 1.4 right!? The bigger the number the cooler you are. Example you have 1.4 million dollars I have 1.5 million dollars. I'm living large. End of story
Um... Yeah I have s off with 1.5 so idk
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Musik847 said:
Haha because 1.5 is obviously a bigger number than 1.4 right!? The bigger the number the cooler you are. Example you have 1.4 million dollars I have 1.5 million dollars. I'm living large. End of story
Um... Yeah I have s off with 1.5 so idk
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No need to get pissy, I was simply asking if you think there are any advantages of having the 1.5 hboot over the 1.4 or the ENG hboot. I mean, there are no new featrues. In fact, if you wanted all of the hboot features, then the ENG hboot is your best bet.
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There is no benefit. Its locked down so there is absolutely no reason to upgrade unless you don't like having root access.
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So basically the only reason htc updates its hboot is to keep phones locked?
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So basically the only reason htc updates its hboot is to keep phones locked?
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That's exactly right.
@soltice i was jk. I didnt at all mean to sound rude. I just did it cause i wasnt thinking and i saw "hboot 1.5, the newest out there" and i said to myself i gotta have it.
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Musik847 said:
@soltice i was jk. I didnt at all mean to sound rude. I just did it cause i wasnt thinking and i saw "hboot 1.5, the newest out there" and i said to myself i gotta have it.
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Ah, good to know. It can be rather difficult to convey and understand sarcasm on the internet, especially on these forums. Anyways, as long as you have S-OFF, that's all that matters. However, if you want all the features possible, you want the ENG hboot. Haus has a thread on how to install it in the dev forums.
I did what you did, had 1.40 and flashed the wrong update, got 1.50 LOCKED with S-off. You can still flash ROMs and Kernels with no issues. I just had to reload TWRP recovery. Then I flashed the 1.40 Bootloader and all was well.
You can grab 1.40 and flash from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192306&highlight=eng+bootloader
***To others reading this...do not flash this, unless you are S-OFF with 1.50 hboot***
You do not need to UNLOCK using the htcdev method. Just flash the 1.40 hboot and you will be fine.
KB112 said:
I did what you did, had 1.40 and flashed the wrong update, got 1.50 LOCKED with S-off. You can still flash ROMs and Kernels with no issues. I just had to reload TWRP recovery. Then I flashed the 1.40 Bootloader and all was well.
You can grab 1.40 and flash from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192306&highlight=eng+bootloader
***To others reading this...do not flash this, unless you are S-OFF with 1.50 hboot***
You do not need to UNLOCK using the htcdev method. Just flash the 1.40 hboot and you will be fine.
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Thanks man that's good news.
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DarkManX4lf said:
So basically the only reason htc updates its hboot is to keep phones locked?
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SolsticeZero said:
That's exactly right.
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So if they want to keep the phones locked, why release an official bootloader unlock method?
/confused
_-Jay-_ said:
So if they want to keep the phones locked, why release an official bootloader unlock method?
/confused
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They release an official unlock method that still gives them some control. For example, you can't flash a different hboot or a different radio on their unlock method.
What type of features are you talking about? Are you saying 1.4 h-boot over 1.3 adds extras to the phone?
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They release an official unlock method that still gives them some control. For example, you can't flash a different hboot or a different radio on their unlock method.
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Can u not flash new radios via fastboot like kernels? Always wondered that part.
Also if you can't then how do you get the new radios when they r released?
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JuopunutBear and team have done it again. S-OFF for the EVO 4G LTE!
Root is required. Unlocked is NOT required... but supported! Support for Linux and Windows.
S-OFF: http://unlimited.io/lazypanda-s-off-public-beta/
Remove HTC Dev red watermark (after you S-OFF): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1738462
If you had issues with LazyPanda, and now your device is unresponsive: 1st go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1738481 2nd go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737428
My experience with LazyPanda: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27989772&postcount=208
Cool.
Looks promising although since I've already unlocked via HTC dev what's the advantage of s off..as I understand we can already flash radios etc..also it requires root..how is that possible if u didn't unlock with HTC dev
I'm rooted but not unlocked with HTCdev. They are 2 different things.
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firmbiz94 said:
Looks promising although since I've already unlocked via HTC dev what's the advantage of s off..as I understand we can already flash radios etc..also it requires root..how is that possible if u didn't unlock with HTC dev
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You can root without unlocking. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
Nice!
I did the whole one click regaw method..any benefits for.someone in that boat
sweet!! i've been holding out from using the HTCDev unlock so HTC wont void my warranty. i knew our devs would come thru and give us S-Off
unknown1205 said:
sweet!! i've been holding out from using the HTCDev unlock so HTC wont void my warranty. i knew our devs would come thru and give us S-Off
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So you're not using any type of insurance at this time?
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why not? worked like a charm, right out of the box
Has any one ran this?
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My nipples are hard
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I ran it even though I already unlocked and had no problem at all. But people keep reporting they are bricking so you might not want to jump in head first.
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i just ran it worked just perfect!!!!! how do we get that htc unlock stuff on the screen to go away??? cause i did the htc unlock thing before this..
evo401 said:
i just ran it worked just perfect!!!!! how do we get that htc unlock stuff on the screen to go away??? cause i did the htc unlock thing before this..
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shook187 said:
So you're not using any type of insurance at this time?
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why would i want to pay for insurance? my phone is covered under 1 year warranty. i change phones every year anyways. i never buy warranty for anything
So does this essentially unlock the bootloader and give s-off?
So can I run this with an unrooted phone? I was reading the pre requisite and said you needed to be rooted/temp, which doesn't that mean htcdev unlocked?
I want to avoid htcdev unlock...
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So does this essentially unlock the bootloader and give s-off?
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Its basically what every has already done except your phone will say S-off instead of S-on....no additional features. U can do everything u were able to do before.
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Cool. Once someone has a write up or script to relock, unroot, unlock again with s-off and reroot so i don't get that red text on boot let me know. That would be the only reason i care about this.
Hopefully the devs didn't waste a good exploit that could have been used on a phone that needed it.
Hello XDA I'm wondering the best reliable way to gain S-OFF and root access on the software 3.15
Thank you
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lreyes said:
Hello XDA I'm wondering the best reliable way to gain S-OFF and root access on the software 3.15
Thank you
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I don't think you can S-Off yet with the latest. DirtyRacun may support it now I could be wrong. Watch Qbking77's videos on YouTube to unlock and root your device. Good luck and welcome.
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If you are already on 2.09 hboot, I think you have to use the hboot downgrade method to brick your phone and install an earlier hboot which will let you run dirty racun. It is by no means easy, and I don't know if there is still support for that method.
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cruise350 said:
If you are already on 2.09 hboot, I think you have to use the hboot downgrade method to brick your phone and install an earlier hboot which will let you run dirty racun. It is by no means easy, and I don't know if there is still support for that method.
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Downgrading your Hboot doesn't brick your phone. I've been doing this with my OG evo
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lreyes said:
Downgrading your Hboot doesn't brick your phone. I've been doing this with my OG evo
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The only way to downgrade your HBOOT on this device IS to brick your phone (if you're S-ON, that is). I think you misunderstood. This device is much more locked down than the OG. "Forget everything you think you know."
But at this point, the downgrade method isn't supported (yet). I already bricked my Jewel trying it (granted, that was after the downgrade was completed successfully, but still).
The team that put together the downgrading tool is still working vigorously on confirming a method that will work reliably with the new HBOOT. Stay tuned.
Captain_Throwback said:
The only way to downgrade your HBOOT on this device IS to brick your phone (if you're S-ON, that is). I think you misunderstood. This device is much more locked down than the OG. "Forget everything you think you know."
But at this point, the downgrade method isn't supported (yet). I already bricked my Jewel trying it (granted, that was after the downgrade was completed successfully, but still).
The team that put together the downgrading tool is still working vigorously on confirming a method that will work reliably with the new HBOOT. Stay tuned.
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^^^ This. The OG EVO and this phone are not the same. What worked on one won't necessarily work on the other. Just wait for an S-off exploit for the new Hboot, otherwise you'll end up with an expensive paperweight, like the Captain did:banghead:
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Ok I will do thanks guys.
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Along the same lines.....
Once you have S-Off can you go ahead and RUU to the latest one.
I'm experiencing a bunch of problems since S-Off and thought this might fix them?
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murphdsurf said:
Along the same lines.....
Once you have S-Off can you go ahead and RUU to the latest one.
I'm experiencing a bunch of problems since S-Off and thought this might fix them?
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What kind of problems? What ROM are you currently on? Have you updated your firmware?
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